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00:06
@gunr2171 thanks! Should @Sam also be a bot owner?
@durron597 User is not blacklisted.
Should have checked tavern, heh
@gunr2171 if the bot breaks for some reason can you teach me how to start it?
@durron597 Already established that you'll need to go to his apartment... and it's hot in there.
I thought the bot was running off of Jenkins still?
Down to 16 left to delete.
@Closey starting
00:18
@Mogsdad Don't get lost in the queue!
@Closey current tag
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Mogsdad The current tag is with 204 known review items.
@durron597 sam has access to my server, so he can start it if he needs to. And he should be in the bot list.
Eventually I'll work on a better way to let other people restart the bot if it dies
00:50
passed ios audit
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 23 hours to continue reviewing.
@Mogsdad Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
@Closey last session stats
@Mogsdad Your last completed review session ended 23 seconds ago and lasted 34 minutes and 1 second. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 51 seconds.
in SOCVR Testing Facility, Aug 2 at 8:48, by Sam
@Gunr Any chance I could have (bot) owner privs?
 
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03:25
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@Closey starting
@josilber Good luck!
@josilber Have you voted to delete the last four questions in the link in the starboard?
@durron597 out of delete votes sadly
03:30
@Deduplicator @josilber So most of the remaining legal questions have several thousand views.
Thoughts?
@durron597 might be good to get input on meta?
Hm. Not sure, but at least these 21 can be killed still.
Must go over the rest once more to see if there is anything worth histo-locking...
Heading to bed, goodnight guys!
@Deduplicator I guess the 2k to 4k range isn't very relevant?
I've already edited all the really high view ones.
hadn't seen anything relevant there and sprinkled the rest of my delete-votes for today
03:37
Current tag for deletes: Please use this link for the next few to delete
03:54
Well, I looked, and there are no more than maybe, stretching it, three worth locking seeing the rest. If that many.
 
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06:16
good morning peeps
07:02
@durron597 you're certainly getting "interesting" answers on that meta post about the Java dupe
Sam
Sam
07:31
Morning!
@Uni bah - as you asked nicely :p
09:11
(See edit at the bottom.)
09:24
will have a look in a second
 
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11:45
@gunr2171 @rene @durron597 welcome @vaultah - great member and RO of the Python room :p
Good morning
morning
12:13
@vaultah welcome ;) btw I looked at how the Python room elects room owners and instead we I decided that RO's are appointed by dictatorship ruling ;)
12:26
>yawn< 'morning
morning.
this made me laugh
-9
Q: Write me a code for 10$

Ayaz Alami have made a wordpress gaming website where user can play flash games and register/login i want to add one feature where user can enter a specific code (provided by me) and they get specific amount amount of points. in easy words when someone register to my webiste and login then they have a wa...

@NathanOliver Hmm. A couple of high-rep users with expertise in the area commented, but not on the question itself. What's with that? Maybe for that topic, it's enough?
@NathanOliver What a great way to start a Friday! I wonder what "i have made" means, if one hasn't the skills to implement a point-bonus feature.
Yeah I love when you see people say they made this but they have no clue how it does what it does and why it is not working for their problem
morning!
@Mogsdad I know the feeling...
morning
12:41
Hiya!
hows it going @ProgramFOX
Fine, thanks! I'm just back from vacation.
cool. did something fun I hope
Yup!
@gunr2171 Don't be worried about keeping the list clean -- if you feel you have to blacklist something, then do so. We occasionally clear the whole list in case it starts getting too big.
ah, ok
13:08
@Closey alive
@CayceK I feel... happy!
sorry didn't see status that early. Going to do that then disappear into the nether again...
@Closey status
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 2 days, 27 minutes and 56 seconds.
no problem
so it seems that user asked another question 7 days ago about the same thing: stackoverflow.com/questions/31874927/…
@gunr2171 I have seen/heard lately that spammer are coping question and then putting spam links at the end to try and get around the filters. This might be a case of this.
13:13
Maybe, I would give the user the benifit of the doubt. He has (had) 3 questions, and they all seem to try.
I mean, linking to porn was bad, but was just a bad example
Need 2 more cv http://stackoverflow.com/q/31526511/
(See edit at the bottom.)
he's probably trying to spider the site
@Mogsdad boom
13:30
hola room
@ProgramFOX Welcome back!
Thanks!
@ProgramFOX I looked at Smokey's code while you were gone
Is it correct to say that Smokey doesn't store the full body of the post
like, if I say "fp" on a question, the title get saved to the bayesian "good" file
@ProgramFOX I was thinking about attempting to write a PR to create a command "naa" where we could start building up a bayesian database for NAA answers.
possibly also !!/naa to manually report them, too.
@durron597 Yeah. I don't know if we should do the body too. It takes up much memory and the spammers use lots of Bayesian poisoning in their bodies.
13:34
well, it would only be stored for posterity after a user types this theoretical "naa" command
but NOT in spam.
@durron597 Smokey's intent is to detect spam or abuse. As a side effect, it also detects low quality and NAA, but it's not really intended to do this. So I don't think we should.
> You already voted to close this question 16 hours ago.
@ProgramFOX This isn't actually for smokey to start detecting NAA, this is just to build up a database for, perhaps, a future bot to detect NAA
@durron597 Thanks... I'm worried about our cv's expiring
or to write a page a little like blaze that searches for answers that meet the bayesian criteria
13:36
> You voted to close this question 16 hours ago
@durron597 You might be interested in Phamhilator's database. cc @Sam
the idea is that many of us already reply to smokey saying "naa"
It is a good idea. Will it help, though? Smokey doesn't detect many types of NAAs.
@Undo ^ Opinions?
@LynnCrumbling boom
cheers
btw @durron597 Congrats on RO
13:39
@LynnCrumbling ty
Aug 2 at 8:41, by Sam
Me wants owner privs. Me wants now.
Don't know if that ever happened.
@durron597 I checked last night, Sam does have owner status on production
-8
Q: Why people keep asking for a "decent suggestion"?

Your Common SenseI've made some already. None of them has been ever considered, although some of them has been appreciated even by the local meta folks. I would come up with another. If it would make any difference. But it wouldn't. Why keep asking for the "decent suggestion" if there is NO DIFFERENCE? Of cour...

@gunr2171 Weird. If you look at the chat history, he didn't have them that day
I think I gave it to him when I gave him ssh control
which was an email
@gunr2171 oh ok
All who have less than 10k, if you want to read a YCS rant, now is your chance, I suspect that won't last more than 15 more minutes.
It's clear to me now that I need to adjust my avatar. We've got an N, an M, a C, and the greek letter Pi. What letter should I be?
13:42
@LynnCrumbling You also have two kinds of toys
and a dog ninja
Ah, good point. Perhaps we need a slinky.
we had a cat with sunglasses, which turned into an onion
@gunr2171 That's fairly common.
Now.. if it had turned into a sundial... I'd be concerned.
@LynnCrumbling The onion turned into a lion with a rainbow. Does that concern you?
@durron597 well, it's not on a great trajectory. We know know that the next step involves a shrimp and two usb drives.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. Lol.
@LynnCrumbling I think we've found your new avatar
^ DO IT
@LynnCrumbling Just GIS "shrimp usb drive"
there are lots of em
13:50
Indeed. One moment while I transmute.
hi again all
hey again
@JonClements I have an MSO question in need of canine kung fu
Know anyone who can help?
afk going to the hardware store
14:21
@durron597 did you miss welcoming @vaultah - haven't scrolled up yet
@JonClements I didn't, but @vaultah appeared to be gone and I didn't want to ping. Welcome!
@durron597 anyway - what's the MSO Q?
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Q: Burninating [real-world-haskell] is guaranteed to have no side effects

cimmanonThe tag real-world-haskell was created for questions related to the book by the same name as indicated by the tag wiki. Not all questions using this tag appear to be related to the book, though (code that goes into production is real world, amirite?). Questions about O'Sullivan, Goerzen & St...

All 206 questions tagged also have
IMO this is more of a syn request than a burn request.
I don't know if mods have a "delete this tag from all questions without bumping them" button.
We don't - the option would be to merge rwh into haskell - then the tag stops existing
@JonClements that's what I thought.
14:26
@durron597 have we ever done a syn request for any other book specific tags?
I'm back, thanks @rene and @durron597 :)
that automatically re-assigns people watching the tag, and doesn't do any bumping - editing will bump
@JonClements Can you syn the tags and then remove the syn, but leaving the tag gone?
@cimmanon I agree that we don't need the synonym to persist, I just don't want to manually edit 206 questions :)
A syn occurs after the merge, I just wouldn't apply it
@JonClements ah right.
14:39
let's see what a preview merge says - give an idea of tag overlap
real-world-haskell will be removed from 148 questions

haskell will be added to 0 questions
Pretty solid overlap there
@JonClements Oh, it was 206 questions. Maybe people are burning it by hand?
looks like a no brainer to me
done
status completed and answered
@JonClements great thx
in WPF, 14 mins ago, by Jeremy
@LynnCrumbling I don't understand your new picture. USB popcorn shrimp?
14:46
I see the avatar switch is complete
@LynnCrumbling Use this for an explanation: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/conversation/…
@LynnCrumbling haha
Nice. We both bookmarked the exact same thing, to the line.

USB Drive Shrimp

1 hour ago, 7 minutes total – 17 messages, 3 users, 3 stars

Bookmarked 1 min ago by Lynn Crumbling

/facepalm
@gunr2171 great reasoning - I'm glad we're all sane people/dogs/shrimps/cats... imagine what'd happen if we actually let the mad people in :p
14:48
I'll remove my bookmark
Oddly enough, Jeremy has no response.
He's in shock
not sure I'm liking the shrimp usb thing though :(
14:52
It's too bad you can't rename an already saved conversation.
I'd change it to: Dr. Shrimpdrive .. or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the new Avatar.
^ oh, come on. That was funny.
Please tell me that someone got the reference.
@LynnCrumbling it's less funny when it caused me to splutter tea out over my keyboard - you'll have to forgive me for not trying to laugh again after my mouth isn't full
HAHAHAHAHA
the reference didn't go un-noticed :p
:) Mission Accomplished. Teaboard complete.
14:57
back
welcome back
Non-mods cannot see that.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
How many are there?
15:10
I forget that... stupid me
@durron597 more than enough...
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A: What privilege should 30k users get?

ScimonsterAllow 30k (beta 10k) users to see deleted posts directly from a user's profile, and/or to optionally include it in search results. Viewing deleted posts from the profile was proposed in the past for 10k or 20k users, but people said that that would be too many people looking at stuff someone del...

I can see a reason to not allow seeing user's deleted posts - but a general search, maybe
@JonClements For 30k users only? How much harm would it really cause?
Some 20k users get trigger happy just deleting answers now and then
@JonClements Well, they need to have negative score, right?
15:14
doesn't take much to get something not massively upvoted to negative and deleted
and gold badge holders (although rarely) get into close/unclose wars
but that can't lost long, as you only get 1 vote each way
I'm all for giving users more privs... I think there should be something nicer at 15k
You also need more than one person's del vote.
and probably something at 7.5k - the gap between 5 (reviewing tag wikis is well... not great) and 10k seems quite long.... and from 10k to 20k, all you get is protect - which is also ugh
@durron597 Solvable with the help of chatrooms
@vaultah oh there you are - was bigging you up and you went away for a bit! sheesh :p
@vaultah You still have to convince people to help you, though.
If you can get two other 20k+ users to conspire with you to delete something, it's probably pretty bad
I'm sure there are exceptions.
15:18
@JonClements Yep, that's where I am ....
Long way to 10k.
@JonClements I think @vaultah has better ninja skills than you. when he is in the room you can't even see him.
@Closey commands
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anyway @vaultah - meet the guys here - they're fantastic. Do coordinated closing, discuss burning of tags or possible syns and stuff...
hello @vaultah
15:20
@Closey add user 2301450
@durron597 Sorry, you need more permissions to run that command.
uh....you do
let me check some stuff
ha, so much for bot owner
@gunr2171 maybe that's why sam's didn't work either?
RO but no BO
15:21
@NathanOliver I'm glad I have no BO, how else could I get all the chicks
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@Closey add user 1768232
@gunr2171 That user is already in the system!
@Closey stop bot
@gunr2171 I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
@durron597 I tried my best... but couldn't resist starring that :(
15:22
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote Chatbot started, linux!)
@JonClements I said it with the intention of people starring it :-P
darn it - I'll have to unstar it now then :p
is closey the same code base as smokey?
@JonClements too late it seems
@JonClements very much no
@JonClements totally different
15:22
written in C# vs python
smokey = python, closey = C#
@Closey help
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@Closey add user 2301450
15:23
@durron597 Sorry, you need more permissions to run that command.
ok, let me try checking the database again
this is strange
Wow, that's really interesting
Chris Jester-Young is user 16 on SO, but he only joined the dev team a few months back
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A: Can we have a tool-tip with the full title for links to hot meta posts that don't fit into the side bar?

balphaAdded to the next build. Sorry that this fell through the cracks (and thanks for calling it out), this was indeed an easy no-brainer.

@durron597 try now
15:28
@Closey add user 2301450
@durron597 Ok, I added vaultah (2301450) to the tracked users list.
@gunr2171 woo
so... I must have updated the wrong database. my bad
adding sam as well
@gunr2171 no worries
Oh, I should read Closey's wiki
15:30
and added
@Sam, you are a bot owner, again, because I must have updated the wrong database :(
Sam
Sam
Oh, ok
Thanks.
to test, try to add yourself
Sam
Sam
Kk
@clo add user 2246344
@Sam That user is already in the system!
ok, good
Sam
Sam
15:37
\o/
And congrats to @durron on joining the crazy ROs.
I'd take offence to that, but I'm crazy
jealous - I don't get to be an RO nor a bot owner, and no one's updated smokey with a tea command yet... feeling somewhat under appreciated here :p
:P
@Closey add user 1252759
@gunr2171 Ok, I added Jon Clements (1252759) to the tracked users list.
oh great - so now he's going to stalk me? :(
15:46
well, you asked for it
draws the curtains
you are now a bot owner
so what's he going to do now exactly?
nothing, unless you run commands
oh okay... cos if he was "tracking" in the sense I interpret the word - it'd be errr interesting :p
15:47
the basic workflow (for us) is to say "starting", and then paste in the "you are done with the queue" message
in the future it will take public records of CV activity, but we haven't got that far yet
and at that point I'll have a way for people to opt-out
I'm tempted to say starting, then go on a 100 close vote spree and see if I can break it :p
What happens if a user can't review 40 questions because he used all available close votes?
@vaultah You'll get a message that you used all your close votes and that you should come back in X hours.
15:49
you paste in that message, bot says "that's fine, just tell me how many you did"
@vaultah that's the best place to ask this... as most people here get out of bed, use up their CVs and review votes, then count down until the clock resets :p
... or did you mean in the bot? Then see ^
@ProgramFOX yeah
thank you @gunr2171
Oh. :P
@JonClements haha
15:51
will you be around for the close event @vaultah, you can try it out then :)
@gunr2171 How do you intend that to work? CVs are semi-private until they're complete and only then on the close banner when it's successful
we hack the /review page
that's the only way we can see how many reviews a person has done
Ahh... does that also include skipped?
Most likely no, I don't think those are public
skipped reviews does not add to your "reviews done" counter, so no
15:53
phew - hardly worth being a mod if I don't know something you don't :p
well, all we need to do is elect Closey for the next year's mod, then we are set
user4639281
Then we could have Closey listen to smokey again, and every tp could just get nuked.
if it were that simple - it'd have been done already no doubt
user4639281
The only real issue is getting a computer elected as a moderator.
Sam
Sam
(Pham actually has an auto-flagging feature.)
15:58
how hard can it be? Some anime characters, dogs, ninja dog, an ostrich... etc...
side note: does vaultah have an actual avatar? It's show up as white for me.
Smokey just needs to hit the minimum rep amount
@gunr2171 Same
@gunr2171 nope - @vaultah is a bit interesting like that :p
oh, ok. I see that sometimes on avatars that pull from facebook or something and my company blocks the source.
People do not like white avatars ;_;
16:00
or onions
or onions that remind people of faces
or clowns
user4639281
@KevinBrown lol
user4639281
Or is it peoples faces that remind of onions?
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16:09
that seems like a good answer by a new user
(cc @Kyll, his tag) ^^
Does anyone know why a bounty question would be in the triage queue?
user4639281
@NathanOliver I believe you can stil VLQ flag a bountied question.
That seams silly since you can't do anything about it as you cannot cv
@TinyGiant oh look at the high rep answering duplicate questions again.
user4639281
Yep
user4639281
16:20
This is the same as mine, right? Okay, so you are adding clearfix to the last child! Nice. — Praveen Kumar 28 mins ago
user4639281
And with conviction
user4639281
Should this be closed as simple error? (!facepalm, forgot to remove the bullets, wondered what them round things were)
user4639281
Or will there be more people searching "Dots in my nav"?
@TinyGiant why would that count as a simple typographical error?
user4639281
@cimmanon "this one was resolved in a manner unlikely to help future readers."
16:25
@NathanOliver What Q is that?
is this really an answer?
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A: What is clearfix?

ihueIf you learn by visualize thing. This picture might help you understand : clearfix

there is no code, its just a picture
I am writing up a meta post on this right now
user4639281
@cimmanon It is an answer... Horrible though.
@TinyGiant it doesnt answer the question, though
user4639281
16:29
Thanks to @durron597, Smokey now has a !!/tea command! cc @JonClements
!!/tea
@ProgramFOX brews a cup of chamomile tea for @ProgramFOX
YAYAAYAYYAAYYAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
!!/tea
@durron597 brews a cup of chamomile tea for @durron597
smokey your rng sucks
!!/tea
16:37
@durron597 brews a cup of chamomile tea for @durron597
wut.
!!/tea
@durron597 brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @durron597
finally
6
Q: Can we have a guaranteed pipeline for responses from Stack Exchange?

durron597I think we should have some mechanism that automatically flags certain meta posts (both child metas and here) for Stack Exchange staff attention when they get beyond a certain point. The thresholds would be something like (subject to tweaking): Post is feature-request or bug Post has a score of...

What a useless edit
16:54
@vaultah thankfully it was rejected when I cast the final reject vote

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