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16:00
@Ellie The colder weather I ever seen was 16C, I think I couldn't handle -12C
Assault is still illegal, right?
So you're saying that you name all of your variables with the type? Like a Hungarian?
Sheesh guys, don't star that.
well, the problem to me is in cases like you've above, where the object is created by a function it can get very...bad. I recently had to use reflection to figure out what a specific function returned because it's return value was object and in every example 'var' was used @Eve
I don't use var cos it's habit, I'm used to specifying my type and I like my types specified. If you've ever had to maintain a classic ASP system you'll understand.
16:00
@Billdr only in certain states
when I left Montreal yesterday, it was -16° C
@RudiVisser Of course not.
@KendallFrey Y U CANCEL MY STAR
and we had 45 cm/a foot and a half of snow in a single day
@RudiVisser I didn't consider this one; I could ask my buddies to cover a portion of the costs for a Windows-based VPS and run IIS on that. This could actually let me still worrying about Linux-based machines and cross-platform development (meaning I could drop support in my framework for portions of that and get it together much faster). I'm going to try and see how that fans out.
16:00
@RudiVisser like a Hungarian? I'm from Belgium ;)
What type do you suppose a variable called size is?
@DavidDV Hungarian notation
@KendallFrey Size ;)
long?
16:01
@KendallFrey int? long? double?
@WileyMarques Oh man, I've gotten down to -26° C with 40 mph winds. AND I had to work outside at the time.
number
There is only one numeric type in JS.
oh
sorry didn't read that it was about JS
Wait why are we talking about JS
16:01
var is also used in js
:p
we weren't
@KendallFrey you are in c# room, questions are assumed to be C# unless otherwise specified
@RoelvanUden That would definitely work if you can offload some costs
var everything
@WileyMarques Hurray for cold weather in Sao Paulo o/
16:01
@RudiVisser does that mean I didn't overread some other discussion about JS?
It's currently -9c in Minneapolis. And snowing. My lead's architecture sucks. I think I'm going to go snowboarding.
Well, that was what brought up the strong/weak type argument.
@DavidDV That's because it's the only way to properly declare a variable because there are no types you know what I mean.....
@SteffenWinkler No they're being stupid
I think we had the coldest weather from last year !!
18C or something..
16:02
well...we all are @RudiVisser
@Billdr Gross. I hate snow.
@SteffenWinkler I disagree
Eve
Eve
@SteffenWinkler I agree that sometimes it's preferable to use explicit type declaration, but you can just view the method's signature OR view the tooltip which opens if you put your mouse on the var keyword. It actually works.
@Billdr @Ellie come here and enjoy the nice tropical 41 F weather that I'm enjoying
@Sean Good edit
16:02
Snow is only good when you have a truck and an empty parking lot.
@KyleTrauberman Nope, snowboarding.
@RudiVisser I know. I caught the flame and swallowed it before it burnt me
@Eve I don't like using my mouse when I code :/ ...ok I'm getting silly now, I know.
@KyleTrauberman Bahaha. On it!! Think I can sport a bikini in that?
:( we have snow in Arizona, you know, and a ski resort.
Eve
Eve
16:03
Also, not to be overly critical, but if you manage to declare an anonymous type explicitly without downcasting to object I'll quit C# and do ActionScript.
@Ellie I admire you! I like cold weather, but cold for me is 16~20C. Less than that I don't know if I could survive haha
and a volcano
anyway, to all the people with < 0 Celsius: I so envy you guys
Wait, isn't @Ellie now set to marry both @ActionHank and @KyleTrauberman?
using your mouse while coding slows you down, you have to move your hand from the keyboard, it's a valid point @SteffenWinkler
16:03
@WileyMarques Well, I'm definitely someone to be admired.
@RudiVisser I thought Kyle was married... O.o
@RudiVisser she agreeed to have my babies
Brb all
@AndréSilva Yay o/
@Eve nothing bad about downcasting (interesting word), but you should not let your function return an object.
16:03
@Ellie Yea but you still hit on him and wanted intercourse babies
Eve
Eve
@Sean If you're reviewing code, you do it with your mouse, if you are writing it Intellisense will show you the method's signature.
@Eve, var foo = new { Bar = 4 };
Eve
Eve
@SteffenWinkler That was a joke, kind of.
@Eve well in my specific case, intelli sense had nothing. Just the function head
to be fair, it wasn't C# but Vala
Eve
Eve
@zneak I meant declaring the type explicitly.
16:04
@Eve Good point...
@Ellie if you're coming from 10F, absolutely.
var just looks dirty
If you're coming from 120F, nope.
@SteffenWinkler var in C# will always give you the type
@RudiVisser She has changed her plans, she is going to come to Brazil, right @Ellie ?
16:05
It's literally a convenience keyword, nothing more.
@Sean oh, nice, you are fighting along with me. Saw it just now! :D
@RudiVisser Not necessarily.
and why not @SPFiredrake
I doubt it'll make it's way into my code any time soon, except for the cases when I can't be arsed figuring the type out for Linq queries are
(please don't say anonymous please don't say anonymous)
16:05
Nope.
In C#, var is essential for declaring anonymous types.
anonymous
Has to do with enumerators and foreach.
(I typed it before you said it)
@SPFiredrake huh?
Eve
Eve
(I typed it a few blocks ago)
16:06
Specifically, if a collection implements IEnumerator/IEnumerable, but not IEnumerator<T>/IEnumerable<T>
@SPFiredrake ?!
Isn't that just object?
I love var in c# but when I went back to C++ and started using auto my IDE wouldn't tell me the type of my auto variables and that really did bad to my productivity.
foreach(var item in someCol) will give you object.
@SPFiredrake The type is object, that is still the type, and is exactly the type you should expect.
16:07
so it's great because it has IDE support, otherwise it's not that great.
It will give you an object, but not necessarily properly typed.
var is always great :)
@SPFiredrake No, object is the type.
@RudiVisser No, because it returns back the elements of the list.
@SPFiredrake, it will give you object only if someCol implements IEnumerable instead of IEnumerable<T>.
16:07
var will give you back the type it's "supposed" to because in this instance it doesn't know better.
Eve
Eve
No, it won't?
@zneak That's what I'm saying.
@SPFiredrake But you're failing to understand, IEnumerable provides enumeration of object lists because it is not generic
So if I have an IEnumerable containing strings, var types it as string?
I just .ToList() all my IEnumerables
:p
16:08
Nope, object.
That is not vars fault, it is object, always object. Not because it doesn't know any better or whatnot - It is an object
@SPFiredrake Then WTF are you talking about?
Correct, but if you call GetType on it, it will give you the element type, not object.
Eve
Eve
@SPFiredrake public class ArrayList : IList, ICollection, IEnumerable, ICloneable
Anyone have any opinions about Sybase IQ
Eve
Eve
16:08
Try to use var on it.
I'd say it's foreach's fault for working on untyped enumerables
All I'm saying :P
@SPFiredrake So will using object instead of var.
?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? @SPFiredrake it's a freaking object. IEnumerables .Current property is an object!!
@KendallFrey Correct. I'm just saying "var" will only give you back the type that's intended based on method contracts.
Whether it's the "real" underlying type or not.
16:10
wtf
I'm saying that the only difference between var and object is a freaking 3 bytes in the code.
That is IEnumerables fault (not really a fault, it's fully expected but whatever), and nothing to do with var
Am I wrong?
@KendallFrey Except for it's not when compiled*.
@KendallFrey IMO, you are (mostly) correct.
Eve
Eve
16:11
@RudiVisser He's referring to the foreach loop with IEnumerable.
How am I wrong?
That horrible moment when you realise you really are at the bottom of the programming food chain. Fucks sake
anyway ppl that don't like var usually also don't like LINQ
Don't tell me that it's actually 3 different bytes as well.
16:11
haha
@Sean oh, I've known I am, lol.
@Eve I know, but the point is that if it implements IEnumerable, the object is an object, the fact you can typecast it to what it really is is irellevant, it is an object
You are correct in that technically they're the same (since all classes derive from Object)
Yeah I'm always saying "There's always someone better" but all these conversations make me realise there is 110% no hope
I'm now asking: Is there a situation where using var will be different than using object when using a foreach over an IEnumerable?
Eve
Eve
16:13
@RudiVisser I know, why are you telling this to me? I was commenting @KendallFrey's message about the difference between var and object in that loop.
@SPFiredrake Sorry you ping'd me
Eve
Eve
@KendallFrey Yeah, pretty much every situation.
@KendallFrey Yes every time, unless it's not an object
Aaaand I'm back
Just to clear things up, I want to apologize for hitting on @KyleTrauberman and wanting his babies. XD
16:14
so I'm in front of my computer, staring at my code, and wondering what the hell I was doing before I left for the holidays.
@Ellie Please tell @SPFiredrake that var is entirely correct in evaluating IEnumerable.Current as object because it is an object.
You're forgiven. Now have my babies.
@RudiVisser I never said it was wrong.
@zneak That happened to me. Then my brain caught up and I died inside.
Eve
Eve
16:15
@KendallFrey Try: var foo = 0; foo++;, then try declaring that as object.
@Sean lol to both of you. I worked through the holidays.
@SPFiredrake var is entirely correct in evaluating IEnumerable.Current as object because it is an object.
@SPFiredrake I'm so confused. Answer my question.
@RudiVisser lol I recognize that, I usually write down an actual note-to-self before leaving
@Eve That's not a foreach loop.
16:15
@KendallFrey I'm on it.
Eve
Eve
@KendallFrey I didn't see your edit.
@ShotgunNinja Unlucky =\
@Ellie I'm not one for babies, but I do enjoy cuddling :P
Eve
Eve
World Var III
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If someone said "Have my babies" to Zirak, he'd pull out a fork and knife.
16:16
@ShotgunNinja Aweeee. heart = melted
Thank you @Ellie
isn't the a C# 2.0 room for all the var-haters
uhh, there was an interesting discussion and now we need to start talking babies again?
@SPFiredrake You did you said that var doesn't give the correct type when you're using IEnumerable. It does.
@Ellie I hear "you're cute" far too often...
16:17
@Eve It's funny because it's a pun and the Germans can't say w properly (no offense @SteffenWinkler, but it's true)
OH CRAP I remember what I was doing
Babies make a great discussion. They come in so many different flavors.
@KendallFrey No, there will be no difference (semantically, technically, IL, etc). IEnumerable.Current returns an object, therefore var resolves to object.
@zneak Good or bad?
@ShotgunNinja I'm sorry. How's this. You're the manliest man who has ever existed and I want to have your MANLY CUDDLES all over me.
Better?
16:17
12 mins ago, by Rudi Visser
@SteffenWinkler var in C# will always give you the type
@SPFiredrake Thank you.
@DavidDV No there isn't. And in this context the C# 2.0 room would be better because it would be version 2 of the C# room.
@RudiVisser That's what I was commenting on.
@SPFiredrake It does, my statement is not incorrect. It is giving you the type.
We're talking babies now?
Sep 3 '12 at 17:28, by Kyle Trauberman
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16:18
@ShotgunNinja Welcome to Manuary!
cutest one ever ^
@Ellie Ehehehe, I never said I didn't enjoy being called cute, I just said it happens way too often ;3
how is babby formed
Shit. Heart ran all over my pants.
@KyleTrauberman AWEEEEEE!!!
16:18
@zneak When a mummy and a daddy love each other very much...
Correct. However, I was saying that it doesn't always necessarily return back the type you might be expecting.
@ShotgunNinja Well excuuuuse me, Mr. Awesome!
He's also a better typer than Kyle.
@Sean Or get really drunk...
It WILL give you a type. And exactly the type it's supposed to.
16:19
@Billdr typist*
Who's better than me? I KILL THEM
I wonder when we'll have to start saying "or a daddy and a daddy or a mummy and a mummy or a not-quite-sure-what-this-one-is and another one of them".....
@Ellie Ty did what?
@Ellie Or are able to tolerate each others' internals, and pop a condom...
lawl@Kyle
16:19
@ShotgunNinja XD
@KendallFrey ?
Actually, Kyle is a sexy web ninja.
Ty... pist... nevermind
@SPFiredrake But if it's IEnumerable it's the type you should be expecting too, unless you don't understand C# in which case there is no place in writing it
Actually, Kyle is a sexy web ninja.
FTFY
@KendallFrey Awww I thought it was a bit funny
16:20
I'm a web ninja too
but I'm sexy as well
Well I'm just a ninja. :P
In my solution there is a web api project and a web ui (mvc4) project. I need them to talk to each other. HOW I MAKE WORKY?!
HAVE MY BABIES
He had to hide the "web ninja" part behind an underline, to make it more stealthy.
@Ellie Not even. I can see you.
How do you re-use a condom? Turn it inside out and shake the fuck out of it.
@Sean You see what I want you to see.
@ShotgunNinja my katana sliced it in half
@KendallFrey I'm not allowed to touch the API project.
Oh, and I've seen my share of ninjas recently. I read the great poker hand evaluator roundup.
16:22
@RudiVisser I've had to work with mixed version assemblies (2.0, 3.5, 4.0), and I see it biting more experienced devs in the but than I care to admit.
Well, not much. Not enough to do what I know would work.
@Ellie You think I see what you want me to see. When in fact it is I who is making you think that you're making me see what you think you want me to see.
@SPFiredrake Experienced devs are concerned that they're getting an object?
@Sean Mind = blown
Wait, I needed more recursion in there, sec...
16:22
No, not concerned, just cast improperly as a result of it returning back an object instead of the type they're expecting.
@Ellie There, try that.
@SPFiredrake If they're doing anything specific to the type, it will fail at compile-time.... and if an experienced dev fails at compile time they shouldn't be classed as experienced
@RudiVisser You can cast an object as whatever type you want and it will compile just fine.
@Sean You lost me.
@Ellie Exaaaaactly.
16:23
@SPFiredrake Not if you try to do ((object)myVar).myProp...
@RudiVisser That's not what he said.
No, not casting TO object, casting FROM object.
@Sean Well played, mind ninja.
bows
But that's what I said initially
Eve
Eve
16:25
Not to let you down but:
var obj = new object();
var cast = (TypedReference)obj;
12 mins ago, by Rudi Visser
@SteffenWinkler var in C# will always give you the type
That's what you said.
Oh my, it will
EWWWW EWWWW EWWWW EWWWWWWWWWW bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
@Eve I'm not arguing that var gives you back the right type.
Eve
Eve
16:26
@SPFiredrake Mine was just a remark that you can't cast obj to TypedReference.
@Sean That is awesome ._.
@AndréSilva No it most definitely is not.
Eve
Eve
Because TypedReference is a really nasty type. You can't even put it in a field.
All I was saying is that var always gives you back A type, not necessarily the type you might have been expecting.
@Sean IT'S THE RAPTURE!
16:27
@KendallFrey Damn straight.
@Sean Why ?
And on that note, I'm done talking about this.
I no longer wonder what kind of phone I should get.
@SPFiredrake All we're saying is that if you're iterating over IEnumerable you should be expecting object
@AndréSilva For irrational reasons, mainly the people I've met who actually use Linux, I don't like Linux and must EWWW it every time I see something related.
16:28
OMG 3 SLEIGHS!
OMG TRIPLE SLEIGH
wow, a bunch of sleighs
It's lost its appeal.
the most underwhelming statement gets a star, love it
@Sean So, just because you have trauma ?
@Sean EWWW at you.
16:28
I saw it yesterday.
Another OS!
@AndréSilva Caused by twats.
Annoying ones at that.
@Sean Twats + Drama = Trauma
@Sean is EWWW a good or a bad thing?
@Sean So, you have trauma caused by twats that use linux..
@WileyMarques bad
16:29
Did @KendallFrey rape you ?
@AndréSilva Indeed.
No it wasn't Kendall
@WileyMarques Bad, like girls seeing a cockroach
I missed sleighs?
16:30
wait wtf? FUCK YOU BRAIN AND HAND COMBO I MEANT WASN'T
@KyleTrauberman three of them, at the same time
To be considered for this role, you must have experience of the following:

- Writing programming code
- Constructing complex SQL against MS SQL Server
- Configuring and installing systems
- Producing complex HTML formatted pages
- Liaising with customers
"Writing programming code"
fucking recruiters
@Sean Google translate : You mean recruiters?
@Sean I can fuck recruiters. XD
16:32
Has anyone made a chat censorer?
@Ellie What the fuck...
I hope not :)
@AndréSilva Just a joke... Don't worry
@Ellie I just applied for a job as a recruiter. Shamone baby!
@Sean Let's do this!
16:33
@Ellie Please don't tell me this is how you got your current job.
@CCInc Travis made one and you can also ignore users
linkz?
Welp, @Ellie has just about as dirty of a mind as the rest of us.
"You must also display a good knowledge of SQL databases, internet and intranet environments. Equally essential is knowledge of the computer hardware and software required to support web-based database systems. Additionally, you must display an understanding of the principles of good programming and database design and construction."
so much attention whoring
16:34
@CCInc I starred it yesterday
They kill themselves by putting this shit in for a programming job....
@ShotgunNinja This is a legitimate job.
...gotten with legitimate skills.
Can we create a room, the SO disco where people can meet and talk shit and dance?
@Ellie Thanks for clarifying.
16:34
@JohanLarsson yes
@JohanLarsson Isn't that what the C# room is for?
@DavidDV To which attention whoring are you referring to? And may I suggest that if you don't like it, to leave?
why would I leave
^ Agreed.
@RudiVisser Well, very few people seem to actually have questions about C#... Is that a success of the language, or a failure of the room?
16:35
@RudiVisser I prefer children any day, as long as they are geeks!
it's nice to see this sad behaviour
@DavidDV Why would you complain? Nothing's gonna change
@ShotgunNinja Success, this room succeeds just like the language: Massively
@ShotgunNinja I've got a bad mouth, but I can throw down with the best of them.
makes me feel all warm and nice inside :)
16:35
@Ellie Lovely.
There's sad behaviour in here? :D
@Ellie sweet
@CCInc yep but it is not automatic you have to select delete on individual messages
@DavidDV Ah right, the confusion came when you used a sad face to denote happiness. You might want to work on that
16:36
I try, boys. I try.
whoops I mistyped
I believe you
=]
16:37
Also, last night I informed that one high-school chick I've been hanging out with that I wanted to be friends with benefits. Neither her nor I can deal with a full-on relationship, but we're both attractive and physically needy.
@Ellie You have no idea what you're doing right? ._.
@ShotgunNinja Yay what'd she say?
I just made a chat censor for ya.
@AndréSilva Yup.
16:37
@DavidDV Anyway which attention whoring was it? I'm curious to see which bit classes as attention whoring =]
@ShotgunNinja Aaaand?
$("#main")[0].removeChild($("#chat")[0])
@RudiVisser She approved of it wholeheartedly.
@ShotgunNinja Perfect then!
@Ellie It's a c# chat thing
16:37
I know, right? Why didn't I think of that sooner?
@CCInc Hahaha. oh, gee, thanks. I guess I should take C# Developer off my resume.
No idea
I guess I'm a bit less of an idiot now.
I'm still an idiot, though.
16:38
@ShotgunNinja Awesome!
@CCInc Ahhhh.
Possibly
/starbait
Or was that not the one? ;D
RESIDENT EVIL 5 I AM GONNA PLAY THE SHIT OUT OF YOU TONIGHT WHILE YOU TRY TO SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF ME
So... lets stop talking about personal interest and talk about Sybase IQ. Any opinions about it ?
16:39
ok guys and girls, after so many discussions: My work here is done :) (also my work IRL is done, too). So see you tomorrow :)
@AndréSilva What the fuck is Sybase IQ?
Au revoir, @SteffenWinkler.
@SteffenWinkler Cya later
@AndréSilva What @Sean said.
@Ellie He is german.
16:39
Byyyyyyyye @SteffenWinkler
OH YEA CHAT CENSORER
Auf weidesen (NO idea how to spell that), @SteffenWinkler
If it's a new metric for measuring intelligence, I'll stick with the Six (seven?) Intelligences theory.
@SteffenWinkler adios
@Ellie Auf wiedersehen
16:40
@Sean A database with excelent performance for consultation..
Pfft. I was close!
bye all/ @Ellie it's spelled "Auf Wiedersehen" ;)
auf wiedersehen pet > Great program
@SteffenWinkler adjö, as @JohanLarsson Would say
@AndréSilva Eww, databases.
16:40
I mean... retrieving data is much faster than changing data inside the database..
@Ellie No, no you weren't xD
@JamieTownsend I agree, pet.
Bonjour again, mon amis
@ShotgunNinja Yeah, store your data in text files..
@Sean You hush! Don't make me hurt you! :P
16:40
Hola @ActionHank!
@Ellie Yours is pronounced "wide-eh-zay-en"
@AndréSilva Better yet, don't have that much data to store.
Bonjour, @ActionHank! Comment vas-tu?
@Sean Noted.
@Ellie Not the candian eh, the short eh with the silent h
@Ellie bien, bien.
Wait, you know French?
16:41
c # programmerare
@Sean hahaha. Thanks.
@Ellie You're very welcome =P
@CCInc You're learning fast man
@ActionHank Oui, bien sur je parle francais!
Dec 29 '12 at 1:03, by Johan Larsson
Compiler Kompliator
Programmer Programmerare
Program Program
16:42
[I can't type the special characters...]
"As a Software Engineer, you must have strong interpersonal skills" this recruiter really doesn't know programmers......
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How? Are you from Canada?
@Sean lol & star!
╬/norris
@KyleTrauberman Do you know why Baskin Robbins only has 31 flavors? Because Chuck Norris doesn't like Fudge Ripple.
@Sean Well, that's super important, even if practically nobody does it.
16:42
No, but I took it from 7th-11th grade.
@ShotgunNinja That statement kills itself
Eve
Eve
@Sean Technically being able to work as a team without putting your personal insecurities in your job isn't a bad requierment.
cc/define interpersonal
@CCInc interpersonal: Of or relating to the interactions between individuals: interpersonal skills. (source)
@Eve Don't we just call that manners?
or something....
16:43
@Ellie Oh wow. makes our honeymoon to Paris a lot easier
@Sean Well, I can communicate effectively with others on a team; regardless of manners or opinions of the others involved.
I.E. reply when spoken to
Oh god. Honeymoon in Paris?
Seriously... Marry me.
Eve
Eve
Well, I think the guy referred to the employees being able to communicate directly rather than talk through interfaces and assemblies.
@ShotgunNinja I call that Notgivingafuck ability
16:44
And don't insult people
Brb all
@ShotgunNinja Yeah so can I but I really don't like other people in general =P
WINNING
@Ellie Paris, Texas
@ActionHank You got tiger blood ?
16:44
@ShotgunNinja also, what @AndréSilva said
No @KyleTrauberman, the proper Paris, France.
@AndréSilva I will have soon!
@ActionHank Will you hear Eric Clapton?
I'm almost up to 1K!
If you generally don't care about other people's opinions you won't have a problem talking to people. And you won't do it with snide little comments like I hear from people around me all the time
@KyleTrauberman I should have known!
16:46
Talking to people isn't a problem. Getting them to shut up and leave me alone once the important stuff is done is the problem
Eve
Eve
"Psst I heard that the guy uses ICollection instead of IList... I don't like to work with people like that"
@ActionHank For the record, though, I've always wanted to see Greece.
@CCInc Me too!
You are closer though
Sean, United Kingdom
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@Eve I am the only programmer here, I don't get those ones =\
Eve
Eve
16:47
ok
@CCInc @Sean Puny 1000ers
@Ellie me too (but only because they got my euros)
@ActionHank Got your euros?
@CCInc How much do you have if you sum all accounts? {CC, Kinected, CoolGuy, HangBot}.Sum()
@Eve I regularly get "Nice one Sean, most technical people lose me the deal." after meetings though
But that's just cos I don't say shit that doesn't need to be said
16:48
@Ellie Euros as in the currency. They got bailed out twice already, with our money.
@JohanLarsson Alot
@RudiVisser Die.
Fuck, it's like Christmas morning again. I can't concentrate on anything except the Ubuntu phone.
@CCInc How much?
@Sean :)
16:49
@KendallFrey You're welcome
@RudiVisser <3
@KendallFrey Why are you interested in that shit?
@ActionHank Oooh. Really? I had no idea. America is having its own shit fest over here.. I had heard rumors of places in Europe tanking, but had no idea it was that bad.
Yeah, it's getting a bit ugly over there
@RudiVisser Because LINUX.
@KendallFrey Exactly
16:50
I've wanted a Linux phone for ages.
@KendallFrey Why didn't you get an N900?
Eve
Eve
@KendallFrey There was no UNIX OS until now for phones?
Isn't Android linux-based?
cc>29 + 23 + 927
Europe had to help Greece to save their precious Euro :P
16:50
@CCInc 979
@Sean Yes, but it's not the same.
@Sean yes
It's too secure/limited.
I see
@WileyMarques That's crazy.
16:51
@HangBot nice & nice feature!
(I really don't)
@WileyMarques Did the UK put anything into that?
@Sean you should know if they did, right?
@Sean We put stuff into Europe so yes (albeit indirectly)
@ActionHank No, I live in a hole in the ground with no light. I know nothing.
@JohanLarsson Can I count the 55 rep I got on SuperUser?
16:52
@Sean Maybe not directly
as @RudiVisser said
@RudiVisser But did we participate in the greece bailout directly?
Shit, I have to go home but I still don't have the FB of @Ellie
@Sean Why would we do that? The EU did that, not member states.
16:53
Because we are part of the EU?
We're a member state of the EU, not the commissioning/council part of it
What's the difference?
Fuckin politics...
But the members of EU did it together, because Greece is part of EU too
The difference is that we fund the EFSF, not run it...
But we have MEPs
So that kind of makes no sense
16:54
So no member state directly funded it, the communion pot (regardless of whether used or not) was still there
Did we put anything into the pot?
God, I love when a NullPointerException breaks an entire page. Thanks, Java!
Last time some moron EU country fucked itself over we paid a hefty sum.... I'm sure we did...
Or I'm mixing some stuff up in mah brainz
@Sean That's what common 99% idiots want you to think, ti's all bullshit. We pay a nominal fee as far as I'm aware, but we (as UK) don't fund the EFSF.
@Sean We do fund the IMF though (nothing to do with EU), and Greece got some of that
I'm trying to remember which country it was now
@KyleTrauberman jjjjjjj
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Does the people in UK know about politics and economy?
Here nobody knows and the politicians make use of it
@WileyMarques Same here, but idiotic people like to think they know everything that is going on in government at any one time. That the government corrupts us or some shit, gives all of our money to Africa/EU or whatever, it is of course all incorrect shite caused by FUD
16:57
@WileyMarques Most people aren't as interested or in the know as they make out to be
And the figures they give us for the economy are so useless or convoluted that even if you know economics they wouldn't be of any help
So politics is politics in every point of the world, a shame
Time to go home anyway, cya laterrrr
cya later
cya man!

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