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6:00 PM
Then they won't want me to leave and I'll say MVC OR I WALK
 
"Wow, that Sippy guy was really impressive with those WebForms apps, we should give him more of them!"
 
fekaff
 
Look at it this way, it can't truly be a legacy if it doesn't die :)
 
lol
We're feeding it steroids and giving it to the French
 
grr
had an interview today but I'm sick so I have to hand it off :(
I wanted to test out my new problem
 
6:01 PM
Fortunately
 
what problem is that
 
I don't have to do any actual webforms development until may
 
@SteveG implement a click handler for a Minesweeper game
 
For now I'm learning infrastructure which is actually relevant to me.
 
oh thats fun
 
6:02 PM
#fullstackgoals
 
@Sippy which is like 70 days away
 
basically, handle the "hit a mine", "hit a number" and "hit blank" scenarios
yeah - I got asked that at Zillow for a senior SDE question
I think it's a good combination of algorithms and something fun/understandable and OO design
 
@tweray Yeah, and project ends in August
 
So how is that your new problem if you're lifting it from someone else's interview? lol
 
yeah that sounds cool
 
6:03 PM
So the amount of time I have to spend actually looking at webforms is fairly limited
 
@mikeTheLiar because I'm bringing my laptop into the room and we're going to have a compiling problem by the end of the hour
 
Considering I just spent 6 months staring down the barrel of some of the worst code I've seen.
 
because fuck whiteboards
 
dude, are you hoping a webform project to finish on time?
 
The last one did
Lol
 
6:03 PM
did you really met webform?
 
@Codeman > that's_racist.gif
 
my mind
 
I liked the team at my old job, but we were working with a legacy codebase written by people I'm glad I didn't work with :D
 
is lost
 
@SteveG I'll find you bro
puts on rubber gloves
 
6:04 PM
i'd really appreciate it
 
applies industrial lubricant
 
Anyway I'm going home and it's going to be fucking freezing
Let's see how cold it is outside
 
!!weather outside
 
@mikeTheLiar Kilo: -0.5C (272.65K), light snow
 
oo
It's 5 degrees.
 
6:06 PM
!!weather michigan
 
@SteveG Michigan: 31.1F (-0.5C, 272.653K), broken clouds
 
I like how "outside" returns results for a small town near Helsinki
 
lol
 
!!weather Boston
 
@mikeTheLiar Boston: 37.76F (3.2C, 276.353K), clear sky
 
6:07 PM
!!weather hell
 
@SteveG That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: weather, water
 
!!weather 98119
 
@SteveG Stjordal: -4.95C (268.203K), clear sky
@Codeman Skuodas: 2.55C (275.703K), overcast clouds
 
!!weather rutland
 
@Sippy Rutland: 27.05F (-2.75C, 270.403K), clear sky
 
6:07 PM
!!weather fucking
 
@mikeTheLiar Tittmoning: 12.17C (285.32K), clear sky
 
!!weather hell, mi
 
@Codeman Pinckney: 32.68F (0.37C, 273.528K), broken clouds
 
I think weather may be broken yo.
 
!!weather battleground, wa
 
6:07 PM
@Codeman Battle Ground: 40.78F (4.87C, 278.028K), light rain
 
!!weather new york
 
!!weather miami
 
@Failsafe New York: 45.73F (7.62C, 280.778K), clear sky
@SteveG Miami: 78.8F (26C, 299.15K), scattered clouds
 
!!weather mars
 
Man
 
6:07 PM
fuck i want to move to miami
 
Why am I not in miami
 
let's all move to miami
 
@mikeTheLiar Mars: 44.02F (6.67C, 279.828K), clear sky
 
oh yeah. because it's Miami
 
We can start the Coctothorpe Consultancy!
 
6:08 PM
reddit.com/r/floridaman
 
this
 
failsafe is an owner now huh
 
Hey everyone.
 
lol, I got a random message on reddit today saying "you seem smart, wanna do some consulting for me?" I look and he's made a half dozen posts asking for help with a video streaming MVP
 
!!weather narnia
 
6:08 PM
@mikeTheLiar Dungarpur: 16.2C (289.353K), clear sky
 
I wonder if she just responds with a random location if one isn't found
!!help weather
 
@mikeTheLiar weather: Gets current weather: /weather (lan, lon) or /weather city
 
lan lon?
I'm going home.
Bye nerds o/
 
@SteveG hey i just noticed that
 
6:09 PM
!!weather asdf
 
@Codeman La Atalaya: 16.45C (289.603K), broken clouds
 
!!weather asdf
 
@mikeTheLiar La Atalaya: 16.45C (289.603K), broken clouds
 
Well it's deterministic at least
 
@Codeman You going to help him?
 
user47589
6:12 PM
the clouds are broken?
 
user47589
oh dear.
 
@Amy how? it was tagged diff
 
user47589
how what?
 
how does it change context?
It was poorly worded but pretty sure the original meant something similar given the
 
user47589
you changed it so it was more programming related, but the original question made zero mention of what kind of zip files
 
6:13 PM
also how is editing trying to improve it worse than vtc?
 
user47589
its presumptuous on your part.
 
user47589
because its still off-topic
 
user47589
once again, "Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow"
 
user47589
I'm not going to discuss this further.
 
wait you're still talking about that?
 
user47589
6:15 PM
@KendallFrey Johan wants to. I don't.
 
@mikeTheLiar technically
you could just do a package with a single script
and it acts like a program
no actual ssis entities and you still write it in c#
 
user47589
wow, bunch of racist comments just got flagged.
 
Nice write-up of SO Architecture:
http://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/02/17/stack-overflow-the-architecture-2016-edition/
 
@Amy in this room?
 
user47589
no
 
6:28 PM
oh good
 
@Amy Context: JS room is discussing the ethics of building a game around slavery.
 
wow
 
user47589
that would explain it then
 
cuz that totally wouldn't set off any flags
> Sorry
lol
 
user47589
6:29 PM
rightfully flagged, imo
 
anyone here know anything about IIS Express?
 
Mosho be cray yo
 
user47589
just ask your question, @erotavlas
 
you should remove that comment probs
or edit it
someone might flag it
 
@Failsafe which?
 
6:31 PM
Does EF6 have a way to insert a new child without populating a child collection?
account.Notes.Add(new Note()...)); //populates Notes collection, even though I don't need it.
 
user47589
mine, probably.
 
^
 
Is IIS express used only for development purposes - or can use it to run a local application?
 
user47589
i'd only use it for development
 
user47589
it isn't meant for production use
 
6:32 PM
@Luggage Well yea, .Add() is a ICollection element
 
Aye. I understand WHY is does that. Should I just add a new note and save that without interacting with the notes collection?
 
@Luggage So you want to add without using .Add()
 
@Luggage ctx.Notes.Add(new Note(){ ParentId = 1 }
 
user47589
i dont understand what @Luggage is trying to do
 
new Note() { AccountId = ... };
 
6:33 PM
Yes you can do it that way
 
Hm.. Well.. so, on my Account class, I have a method that will (somtimes) add a Note to itself, but I didn't want that method to need a reference to the DbContext.
 
@Luggage So...you want to use the Note class without using it in a DBContext?
as if it was just a regular class?
 
o/
 
void DoSomeThing(DbContext ctx)
{
    if (someCondition)
    {
         // this.Notes.Add(new Note(...)); // old way, gets all notes
         ctx.Notes.Add(new Note() { AccountId = this.Id }); //needs ctx
    }
}
 
@Luggage make the Notes property non-virtual and (I think) it will never auto-populate
 
6:37 PM
Basically, yes, unless that's 'wrong'.
 
@Luggage - Do the add after disconnecting the context
 
I don't follow what you mean, @TravisJ.
 
Perhaps I misunderstood the issue
I blame Monday
 
:)
 
6:41 PM
@SteveG I think Sippy or Squiggle
i was afk when it happened i guess because i didn't realize it until you said something
 
@Luggage - There is nothing wrong with injecting the context
@Luggage - Just make sure you aren't opening new ones all the time in compact methods.
 
@Failsafe it's funny that you should say that because I commented recently that one of our SSIS packages is slowly just becoming a giant C# script task
 
feels wrong that my domain methods need to know about the context in order to operate properly.
but ok.. I can deal with it.
 
@mikeTheLiar haha yea
 
I wonder if accessing the Notes collection after I ctx.Notes.Add() but before I ctx.SaveChanges() will show the note in the collection..
will test.
 
6:43 PM
@Luggage are you made out of sapient pearwood?
 
Heh, I am.
 
I approve of this.
 
@Luggage - It will if it is the same ctx
 
@Greg who knows
 
What is the best way to store a simple key value pair in UWP. i.e sort of a very simple database that wont need sql to access/get data?
 
6:45 PM
You mean at the University of Wisconsin–Parkside? I think you would need a locker.
 
guys anybody got any experience with web based depolyment?
im used to creating offline tools but can wpf be used for web?
is silverlight dying/dead?
 
yes
 
@TravisJ Universal Windows Platform
 
@TravisJ someone else knows about my hometown?
I grew up like 10 miles from UW-Parkside
but I digress
 
Man I love LinqPad. that is all.
2
 
user47589
6:48 PM
silverlight has been dead for a while
 
after i group by in linq
is there a way to get what it grouped by, other than firstordefault()?.Stuffs
 
how do we propose to create rich interactive apps for the web?
 
@Eminem - I believe that UWP contains a local database
 
@Eminem - var localSettings = Windows.Storage.ApplicationData.Current.LocalSettings;
@SteveG - You iterate through the group
 
6:50 PM
@CuddleBunny Idk man, whenever i see the word Settings i feel its like the, well, settings of the application. Sort of it's properties or something like that. Not something i should use for a simple counter that can change every time.
 
@SteveG - Usually you will use .Select
 
@TravisJ I'd be willing to bet UW-Parkside contains many databases locally
they have a decent CS department
 
@ShotgunNinja - But do they have public getters and setters?
 
@Eminem yeah, but settings tend to be key/value
 
@TravisJ I dunno, I'd ask the veterinary sciences department
 
6:51 PM
But is it OK to change them often? I mean, aren't they like the settings of a machine that we set them once and that's it?
 
They might own a few setters who could be trained to get things for you
 
@ShotgunNinja - Well I hope they are well trained. A setter that cannot fetch is basically just an internal getter.
internal getter... who does that?!. No one. No one does that =/
 
@Eminem they're just settings for your app, you can change them whenever you want. If it bugs you through you can always serialize your collection into a text file and save that in the app's isolated storage
 
:28899994 yeah, so this is basically what I have:

lineItems.GroupBy(lineItem => lineItem.Sku).Select( skuGroup => new {
    Sku = skuGroup.First().Sku,
    TotalQuantity = skuGroup.Sum(sku => sku.Quantity)
}).ToDictionary( s => s.Sku, q => q.TotalQuantity);
 
@TravisJ I've seen it as a backdoor method in a library
 
6:53 PM
i hate this skuGroup.First().Sku
 
@SteveG -
Sku = skuGroup.Key
 
oh okay
 
skuGroup.Key
 
by the way, UW-Parkside has quite the library on campus
 
nvm
 
6:53 PM
thanks
 
@SteveG - But really
You should be using a ToLookUp
 
let me look into that
 
and guess what - the library has databases!
 
Oh FML. I just realized that DST starts the day before my anniversary.
 
inb4 Cyanogen makes better WP than MS...
 
6:56 PM
you can skip the middle .Select()
 
@mikeTheLiar it starts during a theatrical performance I'm in - I do a shadowcast performance of Rocky Horror
 
@CuddleBunny So JSON would be fine too?
 
@Eminem yeah
 
so it's going to start at midnight and be done by 1am
even though it's a 1h40m movie
 
@ShotgunNinja that's awesome, I wanna go.
 
6:58 PM
@mikeTheLiar if you're in southeast Wisconsin, come see us
if not, find your local Rocky cast and see them
 
If I have anything to do with it I'll never be in southeast Wisconsin.
 
@mikeTheLiar eh, the southeast corner is the only one that makes any sense.
 
Is that the one part of the state that isn't full of cows?
 

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