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2:00 PM
You can lie about it
easily :P
 
No no
they know
 
Mate I've watched Suits
 
they know if you are lying
 
@Failsafe Where a jacket what?
 
Plus my posh english accent is absolutely on point.
 
2:00 PM
Whos best mbaas provider?
 
@Sippy na bruhv
 
@Sippy Oxford is gurt lush wat u abt m8
Only thing it hasn't got is clubs and tbh, who cares
 
happy monday :) <--- fake smile
 
happy monday :) <--- dies inside
 
I hate Windows services' :'(
 
2:07 PM
happy monday :) <--- mood denied
 
is it possible to know which service is using an exe in the code?
 
someone help me find this project and I will say "THANK YOU" to him PERSONALLY :)
 
Fiddler?
 
@Ggalla1779 what's that for ? lol
 
Gotta love Fiddler
 
2:11 PM
How fiddler gonna help me find this project :L ?
 
@user1892991
class Program {
    public static void Main() {
        var myId = Process.GetCurrentProcess().Id;
        var query = string.Format("SELECT ParentProcessId FROM Win32_Process WHERE ProcessId = {0}", myId);
        var search = new ManagementObjectSearcher("root\\CIMV2", query);
        var results = search.Get().GetEnumerator();
        results.MoveNext();
        var queryObj = results.Current;
        var parentId = (uint)queryObj["ParentProcessId"];
        var parent = Process.GetProcessById((int)parentId);
 
@Mathematics Yes, Fiddler4
 
something like that probably
 
Honestly I am lost
I am after a project which is using SSRS but has custom UI
open source, paid, anything, want to see it

but prefer open source....
 
IME Oxford grads are generally terrible. Oxford PhDs are absolutely awesome.
 
2:12 PM
@Squiggle The only good thing to come out of Oxford is the shoe type
 
@Squiggle my friend runs a college telephone campaign. She does not have positive things to say about many of the students. Surprisingly dense for those who are supposed to be the very brightest
 
@Mathematics for web services...tracking traffic..... it good at monitoring stuff..like chat on here
 
@TomW aye, I've heard similar.
Cambridge > Oxford
Hull > Cambridge > Oxford
 
I can't pretend I'm glad I wasn't accepted though.
 
DOn't worry we got that same bullshit over here too
Yale VS Harvard VS Stanford VS MIT
 
2:20 PM
@Failsafe it was you that told me to stay away from devexpress products right?
 
@Gabe nope
 
Hmm. Was just about to say "you were right and I wasted 1grand"
 
never used it before
 
Some of the most fiddly products I've ever used
 
Good morning everyone!!
 
2:24 PM
its like development on development
 
Guys I have a question, I want to pass a single paramter(some string value), So I do not like using ViewBag and a view model will be a MASSIVE OVERKILL for one paramter. What should I do? What do you guys do normally??
 
@Obviously I make a view model or use the ViewBag
 
using a view bag is not that bad in this particular scenario? right?
 
@Obviously what makes you think its bad in the first place?
 
view model can be just a string
 
2:27 PM
@Ggalla1779 what you on about, sorry but am lost
 
@tweray can it be? how?
 
@model String
 
@tweray it would be better to use the ViewBag
 
sorry I was asnwering users question
 
mornin y'all
 
2:29 PM
@AlexL i will generally avoid using viewbag, it's lifeline is (unnecassarily) much longer than view model
 
user47589
morning
 
afternoon @Amy, @Bardicer
 
i wish it was afternoon already lol
i'm already ready to go home
 
@Failsafe thanks for the help!
Not quite working though, for some reason it seems to return the name "services" instead of the specific one to the running service :/
 
anyone have a good free ER /UML diagramming tool they would recommend? (besides Dia)
 
2:31 PM
@Michael pencil & paper? ;)
 
@Squiggle that is free but im not sure id consider it very good lol
 
user47589
dry erase board and a camera
 
@Michael It's the most powerful and flexible diagram tool.
 
Diagrams and documentation are only ever a snapshot - they get out of date as soon as the software changes, which is often.
 
very true
 
2:39 PM
Well, that was... interesting. Branched a 6 month old Cordova app, ran an install on it, and got a half dozen deprecation warnings. Thanks JavaScript world. You move too fast.
 
Some people need to learn how to use IM
Admin: I need to restart our TFS server. Any objections?
One million people: No.
 
have anyone used SSRS here ? raise any hand
 
@KendallFrey every people need to learn how to use VIM >)
 
@KendallFrey Auto shelve is also literally Hitler, it is crashing VS for 3-4 seconds
 
user47589
i can't find the 'any' hand.
 
2:47 PM
@Jamaxack is that the same feature as gated checkin? Where it builds your changes from shelveset before accepting the commit?
That sucked when I last used it
 
user47589
TFS = TFS Fucking Sucks
 
turd feces shit
 
Ooh, recursion jokes
 
@Amy its the hand you use to press the 'any' key
 
@AlexL I think you mean the Amy key
 
2:50 PM
@RoelvanUden paper is very flexible but pencils, not so much.
 
@TomW no, it shelves your changes every 5 minutes or so
 
it does?
is that an optional feature or has it been doing it to me all this time and I never noticed?
 
oh, thanks, Windows. Thanks for deciding to reboot when I had like 20 programs open.
 
user47589
@KendallFrey you're welcome
 
Well I definitely want to turn that off.
 
2:51 PM
@TomW gated check in is nice but slow imo. Really nice for small projects.
For bigger things nightly is probably better.
 
@KendallFrey the auto shelveset's names are the same, when i see my shelvsets there is only last one, is it the same in yours?
 
'that' being TFS, and 'off' meaning 'into the sun'
 
@TomW I'm pretty sure I did turn that off
 
I setup it like keep last 300
 
For things a fraction of kendall's moms size don't use version control at all.
 
2:53 PM
@Jamaxack I don't use auto shelve
 
@KendallFrey "I'm going to deploy some changes to QA in ten minutes if there are no objections." One million people: "I object!"
 
@KendallFrey ohh, good
 
only... that's via email and everyone uses "reply all"
 
@Amy use SVN tortoise instead
 
2:53 PM
@Mathematics no
 
TortoiseCVS
 
well, my internet is now broken
 
you're good, we can see you
 
i don't have a proxy server, that's why it can't connect >:(
 
@Failsafe why not
 
2:54 PM
fiddler?
 
@Bardicer Just realized that
I think so
 
SVN is trash
<totally not biased
 
@Failsafe using it for nearly 5 years - no issues
 
yup, fiddler
how do I prevent that?
 
source control is crap. just print out your source code before you start.
 
2:56 PM
don't use fiddler?
i'm not 100% sure how to fix it
 
@MikeEdenfield We do, it's called punch cards
 
but i do know that fiddler when you're using it is a proxy, and it doesn't always change those settings when you close it
 
@Bardicer as in, uninstall it? that's not what I want
 
@MikeEdenfield nah, I keep each version on a separate flash drive
 
i spent a whole day trying to figure out why i had no net access but everyone else did
you can go to your browser's internet options
and uncheck 'use proxy settings' or whatever it's called
 
user47589
2:57 PM
if you use Fiddler and want to close it without messing up your proxy settings, first hit F12 to stop capturing traffic. then close it.
 
@KendallFrey Don't caputre
 
9
Q: Fiddler 2 Wipes My Internet Explorer Proxy Settings

TahoeWolverineI just started using Fiddler 2 to create request objects for REST,JSON, and SOAP based services that I have been creating. It has worked great so far. The problem came when I attempted to use some of my company resources through Internet Explorer. I was getting some sort of a DNS error, which I...

 
capture*
 
and that'll let you back online without rebooting
 
capturing in fiddler changes the cert to a cert called DO_NOT_TRUST_Fiddler
 
2:57 PM
that's what causes that @Amy? closing while capturing?
 
@Failsafe no, that's not the problem
 
omfg can't everybody just use the damn standard header x-forwarded-for? proxies nowadays are just fucking mad
 
user47589
yeah @Bardicer
 
gah
 
my computer's trying to use fiddler as a proxy when it's not running
 
2:57 PM
@KendallFrey oh that's interesting
 
that's what @Amy was saying, you probably closed fiddler while it was running
 
I didn't, Windows did
 
i guess the "capture" is what sets the proxy settings, and when you turn off capture it clears them
 
user47589
Sure, blame Windows.
 
i can see that too
Microsoft and Telerik both have no soul
 
2:58 PM
I blame Windows
 
user47589
I blame Zoidberg.
 
Why would it restart in the middle of the day?
 
rofl
you didn't click "nope!"?
 
there was no nope
 
there's always a nope
i've noped for weeks straight
 
2:59 PM
Nerds
 
I think it may have had some problem though
not a normal update reboot
 
@Sippy no u
 
i'm still noping on my home pc because i don't remember where the budget is my wife had before she passed away... if it restarts on me i'll never find it
 
cri :(
 
of course i could do the logical thing and just save it to desktop
but i've already got like 80 shortcuts on my desktop
 
3:01 PM
You might wanna save it
Just so if it does ever restart at least you have a hope of finding it .. lol
Or do you just mean that if it restarts it's hidden away somewhere?
 
i know. i don't know why i haven't. i'm masochistic like that
yeah
 
Ah no worries then
 
i don't remember where it's located
i guess my subconscious is like 'well if the pc reboots at least we'll have a little entertainment for a bit'
 
Like a treasure hunt!
Literally!
Why don't you just save as and save to docs lol
save yourself the hassle? xD
 
lol
 
3:05 PM
@Amy great tip
 
because when i'm sitting at the computer it's there and it doesn't cross my mind that i might get up and come back and the computer is rebooted
 
everyone TALK about SSRS !
 
Wouldn't you be better off in the SQL room?
Go on, shoo
 
user47589
shoo!
 
my last employer hired me to remove SSRS from their application
 
3:06 PM
@Mathematics please don't
 
user47589
This is the Coctothorpe room!
 
Fine, let's. SSRS aka Super Shitty Reporting Service
 
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
 
user47589
SSRS killed my pa.
 
kicks mike for insubordination
 
3:07 PM
Ow!
 
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SSRS: bigger or smaller disaster than Crystal Reports? discuss.
 
user47589
hey can i kick him too?
 
Yeah, it's therapeutic
 
user47589
kicks mike
 
3:08 PM
@MikeEdenfield Smaller. Definitely smaller.
 
Ow!
 
user47589
wow, i feel better!
 
wtf
 
> Fabulous adventures in coding: Troll room
 
Adding a controller/view takes forever
 
3:08 PM
Isn't that just the Javascript room?
 
for some reason
 
What the flying fuck is TortoiseGitPlink
 
to load the wizard
 
Who comes up with this shit
 
user47589
plink is part of Putty
 
user47589
3:09 PM
TortoiseGit uses it
 
@Failsafe Are you developing over a network?
Or local files?
 
no
 
user47589
Under a network?
 
local repo
 
Dunno then, you dun fucked up.
Whenever I do that over a network VS basically crashes.
 
3:09 PM
oh thanks
 
This merge conflict is informing me that a colleague added a line that isn't present in my branch. WTF Git isn't that the point of a merge? How is this a conflict?
 
@Amy pay a for what ?
 
user47589
@Mathematics what?
 
^ facepalms
 
brb
 
3:10 PM
not just one, but many
I love it when installers crash explorer.exe and don't restart it
 
@mikeTheLiar A conflict can simply be two changes to the same file. There's nothing that says a merge needs to be smart.
 
Stupid merge.
 
on solving single file conflict, even svn is smarter than git
 
Linus Torvalds is such a git.
 
I understand that. Git doesn't try to take on comprehension of source files, it's down to you to choose a merge tool you like, right?
 
3:19 PM
Well in that case source tree is a git.
 
I assumed git was named in the sense of 'go git this thing for me'. Nope. Linus named it after himself.
 
That's assuming a level of English vernacular that I don't think is warranted when talking about a Fin
 
damn, this new HP phone is badass
never thought I'd say that...
 
HP. Phone.
Wat
 
3:24 PM
right?
it comes with a laptop shell!
 
Legit conversation I had once:
Friend: Ffs! HP ftp ftl
Me: Rofl
He was trying to download an old driver...
 
@CuddleBunny Too bad it doesn't have an x86 processor :P
 
@RoelvanUden apparently they're releasing an app that can virtualize x86 and run desktop apps
^ read - still doesn't run x86 apps because HP
but I am still pretty impressed.
 
@Amy do you know, in order for EF to throw DbUpdateConcurrencyException do you have to actually set up a [Timestamp] / RowVersion column as a concurrency check? or does EF detect and throw the exception automatically?

I did try testing on my own, and the exception was never thrown, but this msdn https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/data/jj592904 never says anything about setting up a concurrency check.
 
@CuddleBunny I'll immediately buy the phone that comes with Windows 10 on x86/x64. Everything else is nice but not-quite-there yet. All hopes up for the Surface Phone.
 
user47589
3:32 PM
dunno
 
@RoelvanUden yeah, I'm still waiting on the Surface phone but if there is nothing in sight come November when my contract is up I'll be upset enough to go with another manufacturer
 
I've had an iphone 5s for a little over a year now and I'm sufficiently bored of it
Might get a windows phone next
 
Why VS is using some file and can't use it from my app?
 
@RoelvanUden did you hear about the Windows Phone HP revealed yesterday?
 
@Michael That's what we were talking about.
 
3:44 PM
It is snowing right now... Badly...
 
oh sorry, yup should of scrolled up a little more
 
And I need to drive for an hour... Lets say 1 ½ now..
 
@JakobMillah "badly" means it's not snowing very well?
 
TOO much
 
So then it's snowing REALLY WELL?
 
user47589
3:45 PM
good job weather
 
Nice one, snow.
 
!!youtube BONAPARTE - TOO MUCH
 
@Sippy I'd wait a little longer, Windows 10 Mobile still sucks...
 
3:46 PM
I couldn't even take a picture and show you guys.. Wouldn't be any justice.
 
@CuddleBunny Better or worse than 8.1?
 
@RoelvanUden both? The performance/battery life are awful in comparison on the same hardware and the UI/UX is highly inconsistent compared to how immaculate WP8 was. I tried downgrading back though and W10 has just enough new features to make me miss it at the same time...
 
I am not kidding if I tell you that the snow flakes got a dm of 5cm...
 
5cm? Wow that's almost 7cm!
 
please
 
3:50 PM
Pahahaha
PSA: there's a guy in the town I live in who has the license plate "I REK" on his car.
 
Mine will say Kappa in the future
Easy
 
Sorry it's 1 REK
 
Kappa is not taken in sweden. EZ
 
lol
 
Costs about 4-5k euro for it. EZ
 
3:53 PM
@Sippy better than E REK I guess
 
Rofl
fuck you mike
I'm gonna end up vandalising that when I'm drunk now
 
We do endeavor to provide satisfaction, sir.
 
user47589
we do?
 
Ugh. The guy who wrote this code did a lot of SuperLongNamespace.SuperLongClassName superLongClassInstance = new SuperLongNamespace.SuperLongClassName();
var FTW
 
Who is this guy? I'd hire him on the spot
 
3:56 PM
@Amy s/satisfaction/panini
 
@mikeTheLiar Might be one of my ex coworkers
I have seen a var declaration cover 4 lines before.
I should never have had to see that.
 
user47589
you can't unsee it
 
No, no I cannot.
It haunts my dreams.
 
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I don't like var
 
3:57 PM
roflmao
SQUIGGLE U A TROLL
 
ENOTATROLL
 
wateva bruv
 
namespace should be in using, but var ... is a sin
 
shaaaahp
 
@Squiggle Best error ever.
 
@RoelvanUden :-]
 
You remind me of the kids.
 

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