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7:00 PM
Not the only part, but a big one
 
So I was kinda right.
 
I'm from the very southeast corner county, Kenosha, and I currently live two counties north of it, in Milwaukee
 
I need to move. I'm sick of New England.
 
See that big white patch in the lower right? That's Milwaukee and neighboring county Waukesha.
I'd suggest St. Louis.
 
Wife wants to move to the west coast.
 
7:02 PM
It's like Milwaukee, but downtown is bigger.
 
and deal with the earthquake
 
If you're looking for West Coast, I'd recommend Seattle or Portland.
or southern Orange County
 
She wants San Diego.
 
lol
 
SD is pretty nice
 
7:03 PM
of course, everybody wants san diego
 
then they get stuck in Oakland
 
It's where we went on our honeymoon.
 
awww, you can't move to where you honeymooned until you are retired, it's like an unwritten law.
 
if you got a billion something and don't have to work at all, go san diego
 
cliche-ing intensifies
 
7:04 PM
All the magic disappears when you have to deal with traffic there.
 
@ShotgunNinja lol, what traffic? We live in Boston. We can deal with traffic.
 
you call that in boston traffic? hahahaha
 
@mikeTheLiar True; California drivers are some of the nation's worst, though.
 
@ShotgunNinja Everybody says that. It's statistically true in Boston.
 
yeah, that means, if ppl crashed in boston, at least they file a claim
 
7:07 PM
if people crash in California, they either die or they just keep on truckin' since they need to get to work and shit
also, look at the report
#200 - Boston
#199 - Worcester, MA
then Baltimore, DC Metro, Springfield MA, Providence RI, and...
 
I have a week off and I'm making homemade pizza right now. Then spanakopita later lol
 
Glendale, CA followed by San Fran, Philly, and LA.
 
idk what else to do before I start my new job. Might take an android course
 
i want some pizza, tell me it's full of meat
 
@ShotgunNinja I'm not sure what you point is re: ordering.
 
7:09 PM
Boston might've been worse by technicality, but they're all so close together between East Coast and West Coast that it's really a toss
 
@ShotgunNinja Wow
my city isn't even on the list
sweet
 
No meat, only mushrooms as toppings
:O
 
@ShotgunNinja I am reading it.
 
Milwaukee is up there at #45
 
7:10 PM
And they're not particularly closely grouped.
 
wat? nyc #151, this can't be true
 
no surprise Midwestern cities are highest, there's no one there to fucking hit
 
They're ordered from safest to least safe.
 
oh yes... just realized that
but still, ny not in top 20 surprised me
 
Madison, WI, our liberal sister to the west, is up at #6 for best drivers
I suspect Reno is at #12 just because no one files insurance claims
because no one there has insurance cough cough
 
7:12 PM
@Amy sry :)
 
And look at "Relative Accident Likelihood" - Boston is +157
 
was afk for a while, then replied
 
Go to boston and get killed. That's what I'm reading
 
Compared to Worcester which is +120
That's not a "technicality". That's shitty.
@Shoe only if you drive.
No one drives in Boston. The traffic's too bad.
 
What are Boston's options for public transit?
 
7:14 PM
@ShotgunNinja A coffin
 
The MBTA which is just a clusterfuck.
 
the awesome greenline metro
"a bit faster than walk"
 
@tweray the Greenline is the third circle of hell.
I refuse to use the green line.
 
@Failsafe lmao
 
Milwaukee's public transit is pretty fucking awesome.
 
7:16 PM
do you think boston got too many claims just becuz there's too many univ. around and too many student drivers?
 
@tweray Nah, it's probably because of the Boston attitude
 
^
 
although Boston did get a walkscore.com rating of 75 for its public transit in 2014, killing Milwaukee's score of 49
 
the nice thing about greenline is that, at some station you need to cross the rail to go on opposite direction
 
yeah, hopefully the assholes get their shoelaces stuck in the tracks
 
7:18 PM
@ShotgunNinja Boston is well-known for its walkability
"The Walking City"
 
@mikeTheLiar yeah, that's why. Milwaukee is known for it's drinkability.
 
Is it OK to save custom classes types in local settings or should i use multiple "native" types? i.e i need to save 2 int datatypes and 1 double. Should i create a keyvalue pair for each one of them or create a class?
 
unfortunately, the public transit options tend to struggle a bit on weekends and Fridays because of this
 
I'm trying and failing to find this article about just how fucked the MBTA is
 
and LA is known for it's Fuc.... nevermind
 
7:20 PM
@tweray ...king high gas prices?
yeah
 
I've been in LA proper twice now; the first time was for E3 2011, and the second was just recently, hanging out after getting off a plane at LAX.
With my dream, but no cardigans.
 
user47589
Officer: "Pull over!"
Me: "Nah, it's a cardigan!"
 
it's got a lot of pretty people, and a loooooooooooooot of reasons to stay indoors.
 
@mikeTheLiar @tweray okay thanks!
 
7:22 PM
I missed the last train back to Anaheim Station after the last day of E3, had to hang out in a bus terminal until my dad picked me up at like 4am
 
@Michael multiple catch blocks
 
catch (FileNotFoundException ex)
{
//do things
}
catch (ArgumentException ex)
{
//do things
}
//etc
 
Don't do heuristics on a generic Exception - catch specific types of exceptions
 
@mikeTheLiar @tweray okay thanks!
 
oh, sorry, it was E3 2010. I remember because this happened across the street: cbsnews.com/news/…
 
7:24 PM
catch(Exception e) is basically "if we're here we're fucked and we don't know what to do"
 
So weird to be herded by a huge line of mounted policemen into the Nokia Center for the concert afterwards
 
@ShotgunNinja would you go again?
 
@Michael In a heartbeat
I'm working on a game project with some DigiPen grad friends I know
 
catch (Exception ex)
{
Email("jack", "come to my office, some ass need to be kicked.");
}
 
we're doing our first public demo on March 11th at Sakura Con
 
user47589
7:26 PM
@tweray lol
 
haha
 
so if we can get some support, we might try and get in via IndieCade or something
 
user47589
support, as in investors?
 
no, support as in underwire.
 
@ShotgunNinja yeah it would be even cooler to go from the perspective as a game dev
 
7:26 PM
Of course support as in investors.
 
user47589
shrug i dont know much about these things
 
Game making is expensive and hard.
 
LA is nice as long as you don't end up in bad neighborhoods.
 
user47589
are you planning on releasing on Steam?
 
Which happens to be like 2/3rds of LA
 
7:27 PM
Well, we'd need gas money, plane tickets, and hotel rates, plus the cost of getting into the conference and getting a space
then food, advertising space, materials, and booth babes
Priorities
 
@ShotgunNinja - Sounds like you should release in vegas
 
@TravisJ I know a lot of game developers who go to Vegas to "release"
 
user47589
hello @BrandonLeeCoon
 
@ShotgunNinja - There are a lot of options
 
user47589
7:29 PM
good luck with your game venture, @ShotgunNinja
 
@TravisJ the kind of "release" I meant involves pleasurable company, and doesn't usually include video games
@Amy Thanks! It's coming along kinda slowly, but it's tons of fun.
but yeah, it's cool - we're doing a VN murder mystery set in an underwater casino.
 
@ShotgunNinja so Bioshock?
 
It was the blue whale, in the Indian Ocean, with the trident.
 
Most of the team is based in Seattle, but I'm in Milwaukee, our writer is in Madison, WI, and our sound guy (I think) is in Virginia
@mikeTheLiar Bioshock meets Danganronpa or 999
 
mental note: @ShotgunNinja has access to Spotted Cow
 
user47589
7:33 PM
there is no spotted cow level
 
that's cause i drank it all
"I found a liquor store... and I drank it"
spotted cow == the only thing i miss about wisconsin
 
send me a mailing address
 
O_O
 
user47589
i'll send you a mailing address. what's your mailing address?
 
I'll send you a free case (this is not a repeat offer)
 
7:35 PM
@Amy - The loading screen is a lie
 
can it actually be shipped across state lines?
i know it can't be bought outside wisconsin
 
user47589
a lie like cake?
 
It can be sent gratis
 
i did not know that
 
as a free gift
I dunno if you can really ship alcohol through the mail though
 
7:35 PM
Depends on the state
 
what about interstate shipping
 
the sending from or sending to state?
 
You can only ship wine to Massachusetts
 
i'll have to check up on that
 
@Bardicer both probably but mainly the receiving
 
7:36 PM
@Amy - const spotted cow = cake;
 
Some places just require there be someone of legal drinking age to accept the package
 
i've been messing with a former coworker telling him i'll pay him 50% markup plus shipping and handling if he'd send me some
 
dude, that's resale, which is illegal
 
i didn't think it'd actually be possible
nah i'd be paying for services, not product ;)
and it wouldn't really be PAYING paying
it'd just be gift exchanges
 
#release
 
7:38 PM
lol
 
that can still be brought into small claims court, most likely.
or at least have you receive a fine
 
yeah, but i didn't figure it was actually possible to send via mail
so it was all in good fun
 
they might just confiscate it anyway
 
now... now i have researches to do
 
even if you tried
 
7:39 PM
they would be dirty illegitimate childs if they did that
 
I have ordered scotch from England in CA. Shipped just fine. Had to be 21 to receive.
 
children
 
the offer still stands, pending if it's illegal or not.
 
yar
i'll research and find out
you don't do the highland games and deathwish coffee by chance, do you?
 
looks like UPS and FedEx explicitly disallow it
 
7:41 PM
durn them
 
hey there
 
i'm not gonna google it on my work machine lol
 
USPS doesn't have such a rule, but if it's discovered that they're carrying alcohol, they'll dump it.
 
reading this conversation backwards I was positive you were talking about mailing children to the UK.
 
USPS is actually illegal to do that. FedEx just prohibits it.
That is why you tell FedEx you are shipping "Collectable glassware"
 
7:41 PM
hmm
 
Very fragile!
:D
 
and @Bardicer was going to go research if that was legal or not
 
Not sure what's in it, never been opened.
@MikeEdenfield - lol
 
yeah, it may be illegal to ship it through USPS, but generally they won't leverage anything against you unless it's of significant quantity or value. Most times they just toss it out.
 
The only enforcement from UPS is to confiscate the items. There are no legal ramifications
 
7:44 PM
hmm
i'll have all the information tomorrow
 
Anyone know if Application and Global Mouse and Keyboard Hooks .Net Libary in C# is supported in universal windows platform?
 
@Eminem - I would be shocked if not, the only dependency listed is .net 4.0 and UWP probably runs on 4.5
 
Yeah, I would give it a shot
 
@TravisJ Im following his guide, and when i try to add MouseKeyboardActivityMonitor DLL to the toolbox, VS says that there are no components that can be placed in the toolbox.
 
@CuddleBunny You were right, I get so many Path too long exceptions with certain items loaded via package.json.
 
7:48 PM
@Greg yeah, sucks
I think it is a conspiracy against Windows users
 
Total bull shit.
 
Oh never mind i just had to browse it through .net framework components.
 
I've moved all my JS projects to D:/Code to be as shallow as possible
 
user47589
anyone know why my route isn't matching?
Route pattern: `@"products/{id:regex(^[A-Za-z0-9]$)}/description"`
URL: `products/665AOK01/description`
 
Microsoft is trying to make use of npm and the right content it already has, then stuff like that happens, which makes it painful.
@CuddleBunny I tried that, but the Ember-Cli still goes too deep.
 
7:50 PM
@Greg you might just need to use it via command line then
 
user47589
oooooh snap, nevermind
 
Regex matches only 1 character, add a + after the bracket
 
user47589
yeah
 
@CuddleBunny That is what I started to do.
@CuddleBunny Only way it appears to work.
@CuddleBunny Just transitioned to Code Emu, then set my command line to my project directory, and use a global instance of the CLI to work on the project.
 
@Greg if you use watchers and just leave your prompt open in the background it isn't that bad
 
7:52 PM
@CuddleBunny Keep em totally separated, which is a pain because it introduces CORS issues.
Because if Visual Studio sees the path at all, it fails.
 
@TravisJ Well, it added the controller but it said that it isnt enabled in the active designer...
Its like i can add it as a .net components, but no as a UWP one.
 
@Eminem - Hm, unsure. I haven't used UWP at all
 
8:14 PM
@CharlieBrown do you have any experience with the DbUpdateException vs the DbUpdateConcurrencyException?
 
Hi , i have question.
can i implement hospital information system (HIS) with sharepoint?
im amatur in sharepoint
 
I'd do some checking to see if Sharepoint is HIPAA compliant
 
@ShotgunNinja assuming this hospital is in the US
I'd check SharePoint
 
@mikeTheLiar generally speaking, we're one of the most restrictive and regulated countries in the world with regards to health information
so HIPAA is a good starting point for compliance with other countries' regs, at least
 
thanku
 
8:24 PM
^ this as well
I'm just going to make a leap of logic and assume that if it's not the US, then it's most likely India
but these are international as well
 
"SNOMED" that makes me laugh.
 
tell me about it
 
I worked on SNOMED CT implementation, once
and by 'implementation' I mean one-time setup of a hospital's clinical database by shuffling round reams of paper with endless pages of tickboxes on them
A few of the senior clinicians grumbled slightly that the terms were Americanised
No shit.
 
that close reason doesn't even make sense.
 
I'm pretty sure someone is just going around closing every single question
 
8:30 PM
@mikeTheLiar I never knew there were so many sorts of bundle branch block, nor did I need to.
But somebody didn't anticipate that people who know what these things mean might need to be asked to say go or no-go on them, so there wasn't an interface we could give them to do it. Stacks of paper it was.
 
user47589
@JoePhilllips if so, it'll come up in Close vote review
 
what the hell is PipelineTransformPhase
 
I only bring it up because almost every question seems like it's been getting an immediate vote to close instead of trying to clarify or improve the question a bit
 
user47589
why bring it up here?
 
nobody familiar with vs build steps or , whatever the hell "PipelineTransformPhase" is?
 
user47589
8:38 PM
a more appropriate room would be the SO Close Vote Reviewer room
 
@amy Taking recommendations for better chats to bring it up in
I searched for "meta" before coming here but didn't find anything
 
close vote room might be a better place to discuss that. also if you believe it's very unusual, flag one of the question to mods and explain what's going on in the desc, then leave it to mods
 
user47589
yeah
 
makes sense
 
@JoePhilllips - Unable to reproduce.
 
8:42 PM
@SteveG it's part of the web publishing process, IIRC.
 
@JoePhilllips - Of the 50 front page questions I just looked at, only 4 had close votes, and 2 were downvoted.
 
user47589
 
That doesn't seem like "every question" which would have been troubling.
 
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(2000000000);
 
So like 3 weeks then?
 
8:43 PM
Microsoft.Web.Publishing.Targets: <Target Name="PipelineTransformPhase"
@SteveG is appears to be related to the web.config transforms that are executed when publishing a web project
 
!!convert 2000000000 ms to weeks
 
@mikeTheLiar Confuse converter with ms, receive error message
 
!!convert 2000000000 milliseconds to weeks
 
@mikeTheLiar Confuse converter with milliseconds, receive error message
 
somehow 22-25 days
 
8:45 PM
what the fuck caprica.
!!convert 20 seconds to minutes
 
@mikeTheLiar Confuse converter with seconds, receive error message
 
!!convert 1 mile to km
 
@mikeTheLiar Confuse converter with mile, receive error message
 
Shit's broke yo
 
!!convert 2000000000ms to week
 
8:46 PM
@MikeEdenfield Unidentified format; please see /help convert
 
!!help convert
 
@TravisJ convert: Converts several units and currencies, case sensitive. /convert <num><unit> [to|in <unit>] Pass in list for supported units /convert list
 
!!convert list
 
@mikeTheLiar C, F, K, m, f, km, cm, mm, i, d, r, g, lb, st, kg
@MikeEdenfield Confuse converter with ms, receive error message
 
pfft.
!!google 2000000000 ms in weeks
 
What a fucking useless feature.
 
3.306878306878 weeks
 
!!convert 100 C to F
 
@mikeTheLiar 212F
 
!!convert 100 C to lb
 
8:47 PM
@mikeTheLiar
 
wat
 
user47589
you're gonna give caprica a headache
 
> Not now, I've got a headache
 
!!convert kendall's mom to lb
 
@TomW Unidentified format; please see /help convert
 
8:48 PM
> ArgumentOutOfRangeException
 
@TomW Error: numerical overflow
 
!!convert 100£ to €
 
whatever
 
!!convert me to Judaism
 
@mikeTheLiar Unidentified format; please see /help convert
 
8:52 PM
!!convert 1i to d
 
@MikeEdenfield
 
wtf is an i?
oh, inch, nm.
 
@Amy I'm kinda worried that my naviagiton properties arent being recognized quite right with EF.
Context.Entry(_currentEntity).State = EntityState.Modified; doesnt mark navigation properties as modified.

Is using FluentAPI / ForeignKeyAttributes supposed to allow EF to mark navigation properties as modified?
 
user47589
that would only mark that entity as modified.
 
So what is the solution to marking navigation properties as well as scalar properties (everything) as modified?
 
8:55 PM
what does it mean (to you) for a navigation property to be "modified" ?
 
The whole reason I'm worried is this:
 
question, I'm trying to convert a date time string to just the date portion. I tried doing qryGetRecord.EventDate.ToString("MM/dd/yyyy") but its failing due to a conversion type error.
 
@Alex EventDate is a date time?
In that case just do ToShortDateString()
 
I tried that but its erroring
 
Be less specific, please
 
8:57 PM
I'm trying to implement a concurrency check.

so as I'm testing I open an entity for editing, and right before I save changes, I make an edit to that entity in the actual database (to replicated a concurrency conflict).
But EF isnt recognizing the conflict.
 
@MikeTheLiar apparently the value of EventDate is a string
 
then you need to first parse it to a datetime
 
+1
DateTime.Parse(EventDate).ToShortDateString()
 
@MikeTheLiar but when it displays on the view it displays 2/10/2016 12:00
Thank you
 

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