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12:00 PM
@Sean should be yes
 
Oh damnit I missed the start of the conversation..... DUHHH
 
@Sean :((
 
I know of something called normalis/zation
can you be more specific?
 
@Maverik Right cos I'll be at my mum's with a shit-tonne of time on my hands while my sister is at work
 
@TomW Yeah that..
 
12:01 PM
@Maverik So after I've completed Halo 4 I'll give this LoL a try
 
@Sean well - as long as you dont end up in my day!
 
AFAIK that isn't the name of a thing
 
Why and when do you normalize
 
@Sean cos if i'm here then it means i'm at "work"
 
@Maverik Oh I won't sit and bug your ass
 
12:02 PM
@Sean no bugging my ass is fine but i can't play LoL :P
 
why and when you do normalize what?
 
@Sean even if i just dropped a Radeon HD 7770 into my work system :D
 
@Maverik I'll grab your account name or whatever at some point next week so maybe we could do something in the evenings
 
@TomW Data.. any data. I was hoping you would give an example of using normals. It is used a lot in games though. To normalize a vector to its unit vector.. that's one example.
 
@Sean fo sho! I'm a vampire so evening / late nights are easy to catch on
should grab @AndréSilva too
 
12:03 PM
@Maverik Indeed.
@Maverik I will frequently stay up til 2-3am in the morning
 
@Sean 2-3am of what timezone :P
 
@Maverik Yours
 
@LewsTherin aren't you just talking about dividing a vector by its length then?
 
@Maverik You spoon xD
@Maverik I live near Manchester =]
 
oh i thought you were visiting mom
 
12:05 PM
A person that lives in an aparment is called ..... ?
 
and i kinda assumed abroad :P
ok then!! should be np
 
@AndréSilva An apartment dweller
 
@Maverik Did I say mom? I'm sure I said mum...... But no, she only lives 50 or so miles away so it's all good =]
 
@TomW I was hoping for a better explanation to use.. but yeah
 
@AndréSilva A hermit
 
12:06 PM
@Billdr Thanks :)
Hermit ? lol no
 
Was worth a shot xD
 
@Sean yea i was thinkin that when i typed! i.e. mom vs mum
 
np
 
@Sean cool beans, i was born in manchester btw and yet i'm a londoner :D
 
@LewsTherin I don't think it's really clear what you're asking. Are you asking why you need to do it, in a general sense?
 
12:07 PM
@Maverik I lived in London for two years... Which part are you in?
 
@TomW Yep
 
@Maverik I was born in Lancaster, North-Side represent! xD
 
@Sean depends on the month of the year normally!! East London these days ;)
Mile End
 
Ah I lived in kingsbury, NW9
 
@LewsTherin is "because it gives the right answer" not satisfactory?
 
12:08 PM
Not too far from wembley stadium actually
 
Oddly enough i've never been in West London
 
(obviously it isn't, to anyone with an inquisitive mind)
 
And the second house we lived in was 5 mins away from kingsbury park and edgeware road
 
@Sean yea thats tad far for my work in Islington (and my laziness and inability to wake up in time)
 
@Maverik Haha I know exactly what you mean. I hate getting up for work. In fact the cold has made me even lazier these last few weeks and instead of walking for my lift I've been getting up 20 mins later and getting a taxi every day >_<
Salespeople falling over in the office. Entire technical department doesn't even bat an eyelid. DIE YOU BASTARDS, TRIP AND DIE!!
 
12:12 PM
So I was due to pick up my car today but the stupid bloody garage have only just realised I need a new headlamp bracket.. Errm, my headlamp was smashed into a thousand pieces of course I need a new bracket. Fucking idiots
ARGGGHHHHHH
 
@LewsTherin I don't know how it's really done in computer graphics, but the way I'd calculate a normal to a polygon is to use the vector product of two of its edges - and that comes out with the right direction but a completely arbitrary length depending on the size of the polygon. So any calculation you then do that involves the normal as a factor is dependent on some quantities which are completely unrelated to the problem
 
@JamieTownsend Lump hammer. It's the only solution.
 
They called me 3 days ago saying it would be ready, ive booked time off work, booked tyres and MOT. Now last minute it wont be ready till monday. piss take
 
...which is wrong. So the right way to use that direction vector in a meaningful way is to assume that it has a length of 1 [unit of your choosing]
 
@TomW I gave games vectors as an example.. however I just want to know why we normalize data.
What does it mean to normalize data?
 
12:15 PM
@JamieTownsend Man that sucks...
 
Well pissed off
Funny thing is, the bmw garage is across the road from the repair centre
 
@Lews Therin: 'Data' is information without context. So it doesn't mean anything. I'm not convinced that you're asking a meaningful question.
 
Normalization can mean a bunch of things
For instance, databases can be in a variety of "normal forms"
 
@JamieTownsend Drive it over and demand it's fixed now
@JamieTownsend Or well, you could have done that
 
Database normalisation isn't in any way related to normals of vectors, AFAIK
 
12:16 PM
Cant drive it, MOT has expired
 
No, it's not
 
@JamieTownsend Push it across the road xD
 
@TomW Fair enough. No problem :P
 
So it doesn't have a general definition
 
But I do believe it's more related to what he's actually asking
 
12:17 PM
cant pick the car up without an MOT booked, yet they cant tell me a time it will be done. What garage do you know can fit an MOT in with a few minutes notice. Bloody cocks
 
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@JamieTownsend explain to the garage nicely what your situation is, I guess. Tradespeople are usually quite sympathetic to stories of other incompetent tradespeople
 
@Sean SFW ?
 
@AndréSilva Uhhhh.... Scarlet Johansson is in it but she still has all her clothes on so yeah
 
12:19 PM
BMW are saying it cant be delivered until monday, so repair centre cant do fuck all. They said I could take the car but it will fail the MOT on a wobbly headlamp
 
If they want your business they might be able to help you out - i.e. take it for its MOT with minutes' notice, as you said
 
I have a free MOT so they are not gunna bend over to help me lol
 
ah
 
All of this because a stupid fucking 18yr old fat cow crashed into the side of me
 
@JamieTownsend Your baby was in the car, don't forget that part!
 
12:21 PM
exactly
I am driving around in a gay vauxhall insigna. Fucking piece of shit lol
GRRRR rant over
 
has still not eaten flapjack, 10 minute break has turned into an hour and a half of trawling through shit on the internet
 
je suis back
 
@ActionHank Welcome back
 
@JamieTownsend what kind of BMW you have then
 
12:22 PM
@Sean merci
@JamieTownsend E90?
 
@Sean you deserve that cos u didn't let me minimize and i'm still here!!
 
I think so? fuck knows lol
 
@Maverik Hahahahaha
@Maverik Yeah but I haven't actually got anything to do at the moment
 
Why @ActionHank you got a headlamp bracket for me ? haha
 
@JamieTownsend haha ok what MY then
I don't have one no, but how hard can that be to get?
 
12:24 PM
3 working days aparently
Might just go to a scrap yard and get one lol
 
@ActionHank It'll be the new-ish one that everyone is driving around in these days =]
 
@Sean ah. E90 then.
 
Jealously @Sean !
 
@JamieTownsend No I'm just saying they're common! They are nice cars
 
Not as common as the 1 series lol
 
12:25 PM
They don't count as cars
 
Man, the 1 series suck
 
ohoy !!
 
That's like calling a smart car a car
 
what did i miss
:P
 
12:26 PM
why give a car 5 doors when no person over 1.70m is able to sit in the back
 
I've driven one it's ok
 
this comes from a guy driving a DS3
 
But I wouldnt wanna sit in the back lol
 
The fact they've named it "Smart Car" just goes to show how shit it is. They have to constantly remind people it's a car for driving on roads, not an upsized version of those things you used to go flinstone style in the playground.
 
Back.
 
12:26 PM
which car
 
@AndréSilva aloha
@SamyS.Rathore which one? Smart? DS3? 1 Series?
 
@ActionHank Children. Put the children in the back.
 
@Sean I HAVE NONE!
 
hi :)
 
@ActionHank They're actually quite roomy in the back
 
12:27 PM
@Sean for children, you mean
 
Have you seen the boot of a 1 series ? Wouldn't fit a tesco bag in there lol
 
mah DS3 bitches
 
@ActionHank No I could easily fit in the back and have a nice little nap
 
sweet :P
 
12:29 PM
@Sean well I have to first detach my head before I get in
 
have any one tried amazon ec2
 
@SamyS.Rathore actually it's a company car, but thanks :P
 
Ah, I really don't like using reports :(
 
@ActionHank That's your fault for being tall
@ActionHank Is that a picture of where you work?
 
@Sean haha I wish! That was from a holiday in France!
 
12:30 PM
even more sweet
you can save for anathor yourself :D
 
@ActionHank Good... Cos if you worked somewhere like that I would have to kill you, stick myself on a rack for a few months and take your life.
 
@Sean I would like to work there though, but they call a computer an 'ordinateur', which makes me 'travaille d'ordinateur'. Sounds rediculous
 
@JamieTownsend How do you find the diesel?
 
never used Instagram though :|
 
@TomW huh ? From a petrol station ?
 
12:32 PM
@SamyS.Rathore before I went off the smart phone I used to take Instagram pics all the time
 
@JamieTownsend I mean, whats your opinion of the diesel version as opposed to petrol
 
I've not driven the petrol, Diesel is fast! lol
 
my old man is a BMW driver and won't touch diesel with a bargepole. Reckons getting a diesel is a waste of BMW-money
 
i'm surrounded by people who link me Instagram images
 
@SamyS.Rathore if you think the DS3 is sweet, have a look at this: instagram.com/p/FXnso
 
12:34 PM
Woo! TIL resx in mvc4.
 
I gave my Smartphone to my brother, i can't afford another one :|
 
Your old man is just that, OLD haha
 
I got automatic culture switching and all that jazz. UGH!
 
@SamyS.Rathore I quit using smartphones privately
 
not yet
lol
why's that
 
12:35 PM
I figured as much. Old people have a hard time updating to new information. I expect he formed his opinion when diesel cars were in fact terrible
 
@SamyS.Rathore people demand a 24/7 reachability if you own a smartphone
 
The efficent dynamics BMW diesel engine is an incredible engine :)
 
@ActionHank Yeah it does sound stupid...
 
Also: we have these data plans now, which will cost power users an arm and a leg
 
@ActionHank I have a smartphone, nobody demands 24/7 reachability from me! But then again I have no friends and my parents don't love me
 
12:37 PM
forever alone -> Sean
 
@JamieTownsend in fact I dare to say that BMW creates better diesel engines than petrol ones nowadays (M series engines don't count)
 
Don't give your private number to work!
If they want your number, tell them you'll have a work mobile
 
I'd kill myself in an M3 lol
 
Then put everything to voicemail evenings and weekends
 
@JamieTownsend aw come on, not all UK drivers are bad are they?
 
12:38 PM
Im not a bad driver, but that is a beast lol
 
@TomW that doesn't work out as well as it's in my head
 
@TomW I gave my private number to another programmer at work. Then one time when I was off for a day, one of the other programmers rang me with a config question and my number has been on the system ever since. FML
 
my boss gets angry if i miss his calls
 
@JamieTownsend buy a R32-34 Skyline GTR. Shit yourself properly.
 
@SamyS.Rathore Tell him to go blow a donkey. If he expects you to pick up out of work hours tell him you want a company phone and on-call pay.
 
12:39 PM
Tell him that if he wants your time, he can pay for it. Why is it that the only commodity businesses don't expect to have to pay for is their employees' time?
 
My old boss done loads of work on a audi rs4 - had it upto 600BHP. I shat myself in that
 
I once test drove an M3 E46, it's great allright, but nothing compared to Japanese 6 cylinder 2.5L+ (twin) turbo
@JamieTownsend RS4's are badass
 
You can do so much shit to them
He had launch control the lot
 
I did look at a BMW dealer's website the other day and thought "....hmmm"
I'm still on my first car that was a freebie from my parents, only been driving a couple of years
was a late starter
 
I am on my 2nd car, quite a jump lol
 
12:41 PM
well, i am about to quit my current job neway
 
:-| My purchase of a Nexus 4 just got changed to a preorder for a Nexus 4. Guess I'm not giving that to my wife for Christmas.
 
@Billdr KILL THEM ALL.
@Billdr Alternatively, ring up and complain.
 
Get this
 
@Sean If I do that, how will I search the internet?
 
@TomW well at least you have a car right
 
12:41 PM
my Dad's preferred BMW dealer?
A sole proprietorship by the name of Dick Lovett
 
@Billdr You make a good point.
 
...couldn't make it up.
 
lol
 
Guess Dick Loves BMWs
 
12:43 PM
I feel like such a nerd, driving a hybrid Toyota.
 
@Rytmis I have a prius as well.
 
@Rytmis Prius? or Auris?
 
@ActionHank Auris.
 
@ActionHank yep, and I'll hardly be using it now, as my new job is walking distance from home
 
Aurisses are cool!
 
12:43 PM
Yeah it's pretty neat.
 
and it's AWESOME! keyless ignition/door locks, it generates a graph for my fuel efficiency on the fly
 
do you have the reverse parking camera option? That thing rocks
 
I like scaring my neighbors with the EV mode.
Yes I do
That's a frigging life-saver
 
EV mode?
 
Kill yourselfs now you Hybrid whores
 
12:44 PM
Silent mode?
 
Electric vehicle
 
@Rytmis wish I could have one as a company car
alas, too expensive
 
Which is to say it only uses the electric engine for as long as the battery can sustain it.
 
Oh rly? My lease is almost up...
 
maybe in 3 years, when the DS3 gets returned (and I can't upgrade to DS5 OMG)
 
12:45 PM
my (old) company was involved heavily in technical and policy research on hybrids and EVs
 
The EV only has enough range for a couple of kilometers though.
 
As long as electric cars don't become so light they make no road noise I'll be fine. As soon as I can walk across a road not hearing anything and get hit by a car, the world has ended.
 
had a fleet of Nissan Leafs on loan
 
@TomW how are they to live with?
the Leafs I mean
 
Not sold in north america :(
 
12:45 PM
@Sean any road you ought to be crossing is slow enough that road noise is dominant anyway
@ActionHank don't know, never had one. Colleague did and really liked it
 
a sleigh just crashed O.o
 
@Billdr you folks have the Fisker Karma
 
@TomW Nah man I love playing chicken on the motorway
 
they have massive acceleration apparently
 
@ActionHank oo, that looks about as cool as a Tesla.
 
12:47 PM
easiest way to delete a row from a datatable in .net 2 ?
 
We did a study into EVs and noise
 
@TomW I do use my ears to tell me if a car I saw slowing down is going to turn via the engine noise thoug.... That could prove deadly...
 
had a load of visually-impaired people in
the conclusion of the study was that it didn't matter as much as people seem to think
 
I have just received a letter from Sheffield that I suspect is a Christmas card. The writing is girly. I have no idea what is going on right now.
 
Hangbot?
 
12:48 PM
and that if they do start putting artificial noise-makers in, which is a possibility, it will open up a HUGE can of worms
the first person to modify theirs or switch it off, then run somebody over, will get sued
 
and there's a dealer within 15 minutes of my commute.
 
@JamieTownsend I rather suspect it's something along the lines of dataTable.Rows[index].Delete()
 
'Hi Ms. @Sean we at Sheffield wish you and your husband a merry Christmas!'
@Billdr what, a Fisker dealer?
 
@ActionHank Actually no it's from the Marketing ladies at Rotherham College
@ActionHank I HAVE FAN GIRLS!!
WOOO!
 
yea
 
12:50 PM
@Sean go check your smartphone, maybe they start calling now
 
@ActionHank I'm not sure I gave them my personal number. Might be an idea to send it over in the thank you email
 
I'm not seeing a price online.
 
@Billdr you should really check that out if you're into cars/the Jetsons
 
which makes me suspect that car costs too much.
 
@Billdr they are over 100k euros here. So I'm guessing 50k dollars
 
12:50 PM
yuck
 
@ActionHank That's all the wrong way!
 
@Sean not in NL not
So if we buy a new car, we have to pay VAT right?
 
This review says it's a $102,000 Chevy Volt.
 
@ActionHank Off the top of my head, GBP > EURO (marginally), GBP > USD (about 0.6 I think) so it can;t be 50k dollars
 
oo, just looked at the Fisker
nice silhouette.
 
WRONG. We have to add VAT to the price and THEN, depending on environmental friendliness, add up to FIFTY percent CAR TAX
@Sean normally you're right. With new cars, you're not.
 
@ActionHank Awwww. Ok, I saw your thigny
That seriously sucks though
 
Ha. The 'range extension engine' is a 2 litre turbo
 
Yea, base price is $96,000. I'm not that into cars.
 
12:53 PM
Or as they're known to long-range drivers in north america, the 'engine'
 
For that price I can get a Tesla roadster.
 
probably no advantage whatsoever
 
@Billdr I think a Karma > Tesla roadster
 
Eh
 
in terms of luxury, power, class
 
12:54 PM
Tesla Model S (their sedan) is 49k.
 
@ActionHank Oh wow that's gimpy
 
not in terms of lap times on the nurburg ring
 
I think EVs will go properly mainstream when there is a viable electric HGV powertrain
 
@Billdr forgot about that one
 
@Billdr That car is sexy and I want one.
 
12:55 PM
@Billdr seriously rad car, the Tesla S
 
It looks like a jag, you can't say no to that
 
@TomW look into the Renault battery change system
 
To be precise, the DB9
 
because as soon as that happens, hauliers will snap it up. The only question in the mind of a haulage exec is "Cheaper? Y/N"
 
There isn't a dealer within 500miles of me.
 
12:56 PM
DOUBLE SLEIGH
 
renault ze website is borked
 
Yeah that's screwed up
 

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