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6:14 PM
recbg guys o/
I want to use smtplib api to send mail(which will have otp for the verification.); is it recommended or there is a better way?
 
I never could get smtplib working for my own project. Mostly because I didn't have a mail server to communicate with.
At the time I was frustrated by the lack of easy out-of-the-box solutions, but at the same time thankful that spammers did not have access to easy out-of-the-box solutions
 
@Kevin you mean you couldn't have setup a gmail account or something? :p
 
@Kevin This would be just temporary thing, once client will buy sms service; we will move to sms verification. And I was thinking to use my gmail account credentials?
 
(I was not planning on spamming, for the record. Every person on my tentative mailing list had explicitly opted in, and not in a skeezy way)
@JonClements I suppose I could have. Does google give out the host names of its mail servers? I never quite got that far in my investigations.
 
there's the top secret smtp.gmail.com...
 
6:22 PM
^
 
Today I'm annoyed by the fact that str and bytes aren't os.PathLike. This makes writing the documentation for my module about 3 times as annoying.
 
When it comes to temporary things, the best way is the one that works. If using smtplib to talk to smtp.gmail.com works, use it.
 
Why doesn't a file masking an import result in an infinite loop? If I called my file csv.py and used import csv, it wouldn't crash
 
By the time the Best Practice Brigade arrives, your program has already executed for the last time and you're halfway to Mexico
 
Because the module is cached in sys.modules before it's executed
 
6:26 PM
Well, it does crash sorry, but it doesn't go into an infinite loop
 
@roganjosh because of where pwd exists in sys.path
FGITW'd by Aran
 
@Kevin Thanks
 
@Aran-Fey It might be cached but that doesn't, itself, stop a loop?
 
@inspectorG4dget there's no such thing as FGITW'd here... there is only Kevin'd :p
 
right!
Kevin'd by Aran :P
 
6:30 PM
1) `csv.py` is executed as `__main__`
2) `csv.py` imports itself, executing itself again as `csv`
3) `csv.py` import itself again, but gets the cached copy from `sys.modules['csv']`, so the "loop" ends
 
@Aran-Fey define aranmodule.Pathlike?
call it lowercase "path-like", like numpy's "array-like"?
 
hmm, I'm not sure if that's a good idea. Might confuse users
I'd rather just add a disclaimer like "Henceforth, 'a path' means str, bytes, or os.PathLike"
 
that's just a shorter "path-like" ;) But I think that's reasonable
 
But the copy wants to do an import, no? I guess I should research this mechanism more
 
@roganjosh modules are only every executed once. import is idempotent.
 
6:35 PM
@roganjosh this is probably related to circular imports: those would also be endless loops otherwise
 
I'm "ok" with circular imports, I just don't see the termination criteria in a self-import I guess.
 
@Aran-Fey I'd recommend adding a type alias such as path = str, bytes, os.PathLike
 
@roganjosh Why should a circular import finish sooner? A imports B, starts executing B, reaches the point where A is imported...
 
hmm, yeah, adding a module-level alias for (str, bytes, os.PathLike) is probably something I should do for the convenience of my users (and myself) anyway
 
I think I've confused myself, sorry. Pay no attention to those comments
 
6:40 PM
$ cat foo.py
x = 2
import foo
print(dir(foo))
y = 3
$ python3 foo.py
['__builtins__', '__cached__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__loader__', '__name__', '__package__', '__spec__', 'foo', 'x']
['__builtins__', '__cached__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__loader__', '__name__', '__package__', '__spec__', 'foo', 'x', 'y']
 
@roganjosh keep in mind that import itself doesn't execute code. loading a module does, but that only happens on the first import.
 
when the "inner" import foo reaches its import foo line, it skips it
 
I want to say "it's impossible to construct a circular import that actually loops or recurses forever, instead of crashing rather promptly with a NameError or similar" but I think I actually did make a truly circular import a couple years back. So I'll revise "impossible" to "really hard".
The module cache ordinarily does a very good job at stopping that kind of thing so I'm not sure what combination of techniques I could have used to shoot myself in the foot
It probably wasn't sys.modules.clear() or anything
 
importlib? :D
 
@AndrasDeak and @MisterMiyagi have answered it for me. Thanks
 
6:43 PM
del sys.modules[__name__]; import self?
 
The source code is forever lost, so I really can't say
 
*shakes fist at tmp.py*
 
Rhubarb o/
 
rbrb
 
6:47 PM
hello guys! i will appreciate if someone here can give me some guidance related to:stackoverflow.com/questions/58826911/…
 
def thing(name):
   event = ModelName.query.filter(name=name).one_or_none()
   return event is None
do you guys bother unit testing something like this?
i'm writing tests for some now-untested codeā€”and there's part of me that wants to write a test for everything
but also something like this seems trivial?
what do you PROFESSIONAL PROGRAMMERS do?
 
I haven't written a single test in my life (hmm, actually, I have one), but ModelName.query.filter(name=name).one_or_none() doesn't seem trivial to me, unless you'd mock the query away
 
No, but I probably should if I wanted to impress my shareholders
 
wow, I feel excluded
 
@Verbamore I use flask and pandas but I don't think I get the question
Point 1: to_excel()?
 
6:50 PM
it's not trivial like... in and of itself @AndrasDeak but something like that is a pretty standard SQLAlchemy thing (and, presumably, SQLAlchemy has tested all their stuff)
 
okay, I also haven't used a single DB :P
 
wait, do your shareholders look at your code? or just so you can say "this code is 100% tested. see? :D)
oh, haha
 
@AmagicalFishy I'd test it as a side-effect of testing whatever calls it. It doesn't seem trivial but awfully concrete. You probably don't want to couple your tests that tightly to your implementation.
 
It would be just so I could say "the code is 100% unit tested"
 
just go for it - if they make the assumption "the" is the code they're interested in - that's their fault, right? :p
 
6:54 PM
@roganjosh I made the change but it still download the file in csv(the last callback from the example : community.plot.ly/t/…)
 
Management already knows that I have monkeys-paw-level mastery of manipulative language so they won't fall for something as simple as a definite article with an undefined referent
 
Download what? I've commented twice on your question
@Verbamore I don't really care to click links in questions unless it's along the lines of "I tried this found <here> and x happened". Your question doesn't suggest progression, it suggests a shift, so why should I care about the links to a previous question?
 
@roganjosh sorry for the confusion
 
There's no need to apologise
But I think that's part of why your question got no answers or comments. It's unclear
 
it's a big wall of text with neither expected output nor input. "the output is strange" is not a problem description.
 
7:02 PM
^
 
so basically there is something which does something wrong if we do something.
 
"Does the function (some_function) iterate through all of the sheets, if I import an excel file?" seems like it would be quite easy to answer yourself, once you solve the other problems. Run the code on a file with multiple sheets and see what it does.
It's like asking "does int(-1.5) return -1, or -2?". Experimentation will tell you the answer a hundred times faster than asking on the internet
 
<cracks knuckles for speed-typing>
 
@Kevin but does it truncate towards zero?
 
And that's not an exaggeration, since you originally asked about it five days ago, and it probably takes less than 72 minutes to run your program
 
7:14 PM
@Verbamore your previous question is easier to answer, technically, but there's some real misconceptions there
Using Dash won't solve those
So, scrub those two questions for a bit, and explain what you're hoping to do
 
wim
Is __subclasses__ undocumented? If so, why?
 
@wim apparently it is ok to also get rep from offtopic questions if you just ask them early enough.
 
wim
@AnttiHaapala yeah, it is - the rep don't bother me shrugs, it's not a very good indicator of quality anyway (it's more correlated with quantity of contributions and the age of user profile)
 
@Verbamore right, I understand your first question. def transform(df) is irrelevant, so either you cut it out or I will
 
7:31 PM
@Verbamore I'm not gonna keep hassling you; last ping, sorry. I've edited your penultimate question and cut a lot out. You need to provide the HTML/JS to explain the issue about your form not being submitted
 
@wim Note that it only returns immediate subclasses - if you are hunting for all, then you'll need to recurse through the inheritance tree
 
wim
yeah, pretty trivial actually dpaste.com/18EDJ26
one of the few good use-cases for recursion
 
@roganjosh thank your help, I have included html file on the my question. it should be a dropbox link(dropbox.com/home/Flask%20test)
 
wim
@AndrasDeak OK. While you're here, typo.
 
7:36 PM
@Verbamore It doesn't load for me. dropbox just isn't great for this. Please host on dpaste/pastebin/gist
 
@roganjosh transform function does all the magic that I need to see at the end.Pretty much, it takes a data frame from an excel file and transform it based on the criterias that I have specified inside the function(very simple)
@roganjosh ok
 
@Verbamore ... that isn't your question?
 
@Verbamore on the topic of the dropbox link, your question may attract a wider audience if you put all of the information required in the post itself. I can't view dropbox links because of my firewall, and any file hosting site you might think to try is not likely to work either
 
not to mention that linking to external stuff makes your question a "no MCVE"
 
I'm trying to build an MCVE for one question of their 2 but it's a bit too scattergun atm
 
7:38 PM
If you're thinking "I can't just paste the entire csv into the post because it's very large", I understand that frustration, but in the majority of cases it's possible to strip down the program's output to its bare essentials while you're constructing your MCVE
 
@wim closed
 
wim
thx
hopefully it will stay closed this time since stocker threw in his diamond.
 
a mod reopened that question?! I've lost all faith in everything
 
wim
yeah but the same one with a history of weird decisions and making a mess on main. I think they have (had) a different vision for the site's purpose than most of the other mods have.
 
7:56 PM
Blocked :-(
 
i am trying to understand python dependencies.. I have my code base A is using package<asyncpg==0.12.0>, but also my codebase A is importing package <B> which is using package <asyncpg==0.18.0>, for this i am getting the following error:

pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (asyncpg 0.12.0 (path/to/codebase/env/lib/python3.6/site-packages), Requirement.parse('asyncpg==0.18.0'), {ā€˜Bā€™})

can anyone help with this one please?
 
@Verbamore I can see it. You're saying that nothing gets submitted to the server?
 
why would those two conflict? I am already including another dependency and my code shouldn't care about the dependencies of that dependency. coming from javascript background, i haven't seen nodejs has issues with that in npm
 
The problem is <button class="btn btn-outline-secondary" type="button">Submit</button>. Get rid of type=button which explicitly stops the form being submitted
I'm having deja vu. Was it you that I discussed this with a few days back?
 
@JoeSaad python just doesn't support importing multiple versions of the same module
 
8:03 PM
Is it not weird to pin to a single version of a dependency?
 
Perhaps you can configure your package to use "asyncpg 0.12.0 or higher"?
 
so how can i control my dependencies?
 
I don't actually know how to do that, but I bet it can be done
 
Nov 4 at 21:41, by roganjosh
@Verbamore also type="button" will stop it from being able to submit your form, you need it as an <input class="btn btn-outline-secondary" type="submit">. You're going to need follow some tutorials here for the front-end I think to get a proper grip rather than me write a fully-functioning block of code for you; there are numerous mistakes
So, we are going around the same problem again
 
@Kevin >=
 
8:04 PM
if one of your dependencies requires v0.18.0 then you need to use v.0.18.0
 
Do you have to declare that explicitly? It would be nice if the dependency wrangler could figure out which version satisfies both requirements.
 
well the requirements are >=, and then pip looks at those, I think
you can't expect pip to figure out what version your code is compatible with :P
 
I can, but only because my expectations are unreasonable
 
SO offline for maintenance...perhaps they've run out of rep
 
8:19 PM
import party?
 
wim
@AndrasDeak it is weird/wrong to pin this in the package metadata (setup.py/pyproject.toml). it is normal/correct to pin it in the lockfile (requirements.txt/poetry.lock or whatever)
indeed, the pkg_resources conflict means it's pinned in the package metadata
 
@Verbamore I should have tagged you before I posted the quote. Before this notification gets lost, scroll up a bit. I already addressed this problem on Nov 4th which you'll see.
 
wim
main is back
 
party.terminate()
 
wim
ugh, wish the edit window was a little longer. BLOG post.
 
8:30 PM
cbg
 
@wim and not spam for once
 
wim
I can't wait to rip the 2.7 support out of advent-of-code-data in Jan 2020.
the hacks needed to make from aocd import data work without using Python 3's module __getattr__ feature are horrific
 
why wait?
 
wim
Because I support 2.7 until Jan 1 2020.
 
Hey, everyone, wim is a python 2 supporter!
 
wim
8:33 PM
For advent-of-code-data it's particularly important, because pypy2 is still much faster than python3 for many puzzles.
 
anyone doing aoc should be using real python
 
wim
the assembunny style puzzles, pypy eats them up!
 
I must not have gotten that far
 
wim
and those crypto mining style puzzles where you had to compute an md5, and then checksum the checksum another 1000 times, are much faster on py2 (because you don't need to convert from str back to bytes on every iteration)
 
after the first week, they get challenging enough for me that it takes more than an hour or two
 
8:35 PM
n00b question: what's aoc?
 
wim
axiom of choice
 
wim's yanking your chain
in this context: adventofcode.com
 
SO was down for about the last 20-30 minutes. They say it's back up now.
 
wim
8:38 PM
their SQL had a rep overflow
 
Hmm, not all functionality seems to be back yet. What are you all seeing?
 
aoc is deadly cool. I need to start solving these
 
@smci works fine for me
@inspectorG4dget you can try getting up to speed until the first (of December, that is) ;)
 
what happens on Dec 1... aside from momG4dget's birthday?
 
AoC 2019
 
8:43 PM
right... but I can still get up to speed, while solving 2k19, no?
 
well yeah, but it's more fun to rush through 4 years in 2 weeks ;)
 
wim
it will be good practice to start on a previous year
 
oh troo dat!
 
wim
the puzzles all follow a kind of formula, and it will help you to be familiar with the formula
 
@roganjosh Thank you for your willingness to help me.
 
8:48 PM
@Verbamore happy to help if you take the advice. Did it fix the problem?
 
@roganjosh oh man, I can't run it now. I see this message in in the browser :Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application.
 
Well that just means that you've finally managed to submit something to the server, it's nothing to do with that change
 
Tim
@wim Could you please remove your comment that links to my account? I have received a lot of attack since then. Thanks.
 
cabbage
 
8:56 PM
Now you need to look at the server
 
Idk why this is happening, but I'm having a very bizarre PIL bug when pasting images. I made a question but I didn't get any useful answers yet stackoverflow.com/questions/58796718/…
 
As an enthusiast of both PIL and MTG, I'm interested, but I'm about to go AFK for a while. I'll look at it later tonight.
 
Thx. That is also a very marvelous set of enthusiasm topics btw :p
 
Tim
@wim Do you feel any sorry when this happens? Or is this what you intend?
 
wim
@Tim Which comment?
 
Tim
9:05 PM
Who else have you hurt?
intentionally or not
 
wim
I don't know if you are talking about in chat or on meta
 
Tim
Did you do that in both places?
 
wim
do what?
 
glad I'm not the only one who has no idea what we're talking about
 
The rep changes but this dance around the issue is pretty sad tbh
 
wim
9:08 PM
@Tim If someone is attacking you, flag for moderator and it will be promptly dealt with.
If many users are downvoting you it's because of meta effect, not much you can do about that but avoiding to post too many "Help me with my homeworks" style questions.
 
Tim
Ah, meta effect is what you intend
Vicious
 
wim
downvotes are not attacks btw
 
Stop it. Everyone had every opportunity to vote on everything that was posted prior to this
 
wim
score is just a measure of how interesting or useful content is on site
 
Tim
every one has right to doxing any others?
right to make any other vulnerable to attacks from users who have little idea of what have happened in the past?
 
wim
9:12 PM
...to publish the private personal information of another user? No. If someone does that they will be promptly banned. But the Q&A is public!
 
Tim
what is homework style?
question is question.
no question should be discriminated, by its sources.
not to say the accusation is completely unfounded
blantantly rude and offensive
not to say publicly annoucing one's account, to implicilty attract attacks
 
wim
some questions are off-topic, these get closed.
 
what attacks are we talking about?
 
Tim
regardless of whether you intentionally to do so or not
 
wim
some questions are off-topic and not helpful for future readers, these sometimes get closed AND deleted.
it's not a personal attack, it's just curating the site content
 
Tim
9:14 PM
How the recent policy change happens to my account is none of your business!
 
No it isn't, and you know it
 
Tim
You do not own my account
 
@Tim congrats, you're only 30k away from getting mugged
assuming they still hand out 100k swag these days
 
@cs95 bad timing :P
 
y'know, without some insider room 6 knowledge, that sounds kinda like a threat
 
wim
9:15 PM
Imagine how useless wikipedia would be if everybody in the world has an article about their dog ...
This is how typo questions are here
 
I've only seen antti use it, but I assumed it was a colloquial term :P
 
Imagine how useless Wikipedia would be if they had a single focus
 
Hello, @Tim. I understand your frustration, but I don't want to keep this discussion repeating here. We will stop any ad hominem attacks your person, though discussion of specific posts can be fine (though C++-related rooms would be more appropriate). I would also like to ask you as the other side of the discussion to take the soft-skill-needing aspects elsewhere.
I also ask everyone else to drop personal remarks, because this is getting tiresome
And I suspect most constructive things have already been said.
 
there's nothing wrong with asking a lot of questions, by the way. If you ask a thousand question, chances are 50 of them will be bad. But that doesn't take away from the 950 others that are good and make a positive difference.
 
Anyone know why drf isn't giving me the right url name even tho I can navigate to /api/asset/ just fine
 
9:19 PM
@MalikBrahimi no idea what drf is
 
hold up pasting image
django rest framework
 
Please don't
 
So even tho both are registered via different routes they show the same url
router = DefaultRouter()
router.register("asset", AssetViewset)
router.register("firmware", FirmwareViewset)
 
I don't want to put the room in timeout because there are also python discussions going on, so please just drop the subject altogether
 
This is nuts. Finally SE got us to implode
 
9:22 PM
all of you have enough rep to start a discussion in another chatroom, or take it to a C++--related room
 
thanks for dealing with it, Andras
 
C++, more like C-- hah!
 
oof
Tbh I still have no idea on how to mention a user when replying to their comment in a question, I tried the @ but it didn't seem to work, but I guess it is a classic mistake because there's a meta question dedicated to that XD
 
@SaltyHelpVampire it should work, the interface should even offer usernames to ping (although some people can be pinged, but are not offered automatically)
but you can only ping at most one user per comment
 
wim
that's not true, I pinged like 20 kevins one time.
 
9:27 PM
in chat
 
I tried with a single user that replied but it didn't seem to highlight it as pinged or anything, so I may have done something else wrong or maybe it isn't meant to display at all XD
 
No, it just doesn't display
 
That's fair
It explains a lot, too
 
wim
great username
 
> I decided to include the link to the image
where? Am I blind?
 
9:28 PM
thx :p
 
@AndrasDeak (Most functionality as back as of when I wrote that (12:37pm PST), but starring chat comments didn't seem to be. But it seems to be back now. But also if you click on an individual comment, its timestamp is shown in GMT not local timezone. So, still some breakage)
 
what about the background though
 
I meant the link to the image I'm pasting, not the link to the background itself. But the background itself was a local .png file
 
@smci hmm, I didn't see any hiccups in chat, but I didn't star anything. And I didn't check comments either when you asked, only votes
 
9:29 PM
for a MCVE we're gonna need both
 
So ye that one wasn't included either, I just assumed it was enough with the link to the .jpg and two images displaying expected and actual result
 
@AndrasDeak Can you check if you click on an individual comment, its timestamp is shown in GMT not local timezone? That's (minor) breakage right? (or did SO always do that)
 
I'll keep it in mind for next time, thx @Aran-Fey
 
@SaltyHelpVampire Ideally everything is included in the question, lest the links rot away in 5 years
 
though that's kinda difficult with images. SO/imgur re-encodes them, doesn't it?
 
9:30 PM
@smci it always was GMT (Z in the timestamp)
 
@AndrasDeak Ahh.
 
@Aran-Fey it officially doesn't, but it sometimes does
 
hooray
 
I didn't think it was necessary to include the background image as it was a png image and it could be remade from the screenshots sent. But I guess I could have included the blank image too
Should I do so now? XD
 
until SO says otherwise I assume all image handling is done by imgur, compressed or not
@SaltyHelpVampire never too late to facelift an unanswered question
ideally users should be able to take your input files, save them to a given name, run your code, and see the problem
 
9:32 PM
the sooner you do it the sooner we can figure out the problem
because right now we can't
 
Perfect, I'll attach the base image if rn
I added the unaltered image below :D
 
great, now we wait for Kevin
Do you need requests to reproduce the issue? If not, I'd add that too. In the spirit of "minimal". And link rot, as I've said already.
 
>>> p1Base.mode
'P'
There's your problem. Your background image uses a palette, which probably contains exactly 2 shades of purple and no other colors.
 
It does indeed just include 2 colors
 
p1Base = Image.open("P1Battlefield.png").convert('RGB'), problem solved
 
9:38 PM
Thx, I'll try it out now
 
wim
they are seeking contractors for pip's resolver pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/11/…
not bad pay either
 
If it does work (which I'm sure it will), should I add it as a reply to my own and credit you for it, @Aran-Fey?
I wouldn't want to just leave it at "someone answered my question and nobody else is able to see the answer" XD
 
Don't credit me or just delete the question
 
at that point it's mostly "not reproducible"
people might have that problem, but they probably won't find it (and odds are there's a dupe if you already know what the problem is)
 
@AndrasDeak thanks for dealing with it.
 
9:41 PM
I guess that's fair. I still decided to make the question because I hadn't been able to find the same issue
 
@SaltyHelpVampire well, yeah. My point was just that future readers would probably not find it useful
Similar to typo bugs, which are often only obvious in hindsight. They are on-topic questions, but this doesn't mean there's value in keeping them around once they are solved.
 
I guess that makes sense too. I still wanted to know if there was a way to help future users with such issues but if it'll get lost and become redundant, it's better to just delete it
It also worked perfectly :p
 
Well, if you find out the issue, you can start googling for the actual problem. If you don't find a good question and answer on SO, you can try rephrasing it in a way that might help others with the same problem.
I don't know anything about images so I won't try to do this on your behalf
 
Sometimes my biggest barrier is trying to figure out the correct terms for what I want to find
 
don't worry, you're not alone. One usually gets better with time.
 
9:45 PM
in this case "palette" is probably an important keyword
 
wim
I wonder how much longer the "unlikely to help future readers" close reason will last
it somewhat goes against the SE staff goal (increase traffic / engagement at all costs)
 
I don't think they'll touch the close reasons soon, now that they've been rehashed
 
thx @shad0w_wa1k3r, it is appreciated
 
Whoops, guess I'm too slow
My guess was going to be "the background image has some kind of wacky configuration that makes it not play nicely with other pngs". A palette will do that I guess.
 
Regardless, merely your offer of help is appreciated :p
 
9:49 PM
I probably would have fruitlessly toyed around with rgb/rgba modes for half an hour first
 
oof
Well I wouldn't have known where to start toying, so I would have been ages there had it not been for the help offered here
 
hello
 
I a working on a business case like this :
 
9:53 PM
@ILoveStackoverflow Will there be python at the end?
 
But i am not getting about positive risk
Sorry I know this is not related to Python
 
Then please ask it elsewhere :)
(I know you already have)
 
Ok sorry
 
it's alright
 
I've always wondered if there's an "oof" equivalent in the salad language. All I know is cbg and rbrb
It's enough to get started but it is a complex lexicon
 
9:57 PM
most of it isn't in daily use
 
That makes sense. I still think "cabbage" is a wonderful greeting, though
 
wim
come on deak
 
I don't think I will
 
wim
so crowd-sourced homework is ok?
I dunno but sometimes you seem to have the same goal for main (on-topic, quality content)
at least you don't hesitate to close and/or delete bad content
 
You weren't talking about crowd-sourced homework, you were talking about a specific user's victim status (or lack thereof) and alleged revenge downvotes
 
wim
ok, but it kind of comes with the territory
 
10:28 PM
we can talk about posts (although there's nothing new under the sun), but we will not single out users
 
^ yes please
 
And you might remember that we tend to discourage extensive complaining about endless crap even on good days, and today is not a good day.
 
Usually in such cases one may or may not feel that they are intentionally doing it, but from an outside perspective the picture is quite clear, intentional or not.
 
@wim and right now what I think is irrelevant. What I'm enforcing doesn't have to do with who's right in any technical way.
call it being nice
 
10:42 PM
Am I allowed mention to @Code-Apprentice about my answer to their 1st question and to their second asking of the question? It's not really ok to shop the chatroom for hours of advice, solicit multiple answers, acknowledge that they're good answers, then not accept any...
...and say "I have already moved on from this and am working on other things." Without any accepts, or any acknowledgement of having gotten any help.
 
wim
it was only 2 days
sometimes I take weeks to accept an answer
 
my guess would be no because folks have strong opinions against badgering users to accept answers in general, regardless of circumstances
 
to be fair, most of our discussion in chat was nitpicks to my MCVE.
 
wim
I think it's ok to nudge them with a ping, but not OK to passive-aggressively imply that other user is ungrateful
 
@wim No, it was a month ago (October), the questions were asked verbally here in the chatroom, we had day-long discussions back in early October. Those answers I posted were just post-hoc summaries of all the October advice.
Update: OP has now deleted the second asking of the question, and along with it an answer.
 
10:47 PM
so you answered a question a month after I asked it and you are impatient that I haven't accepted it two days later?
as you made very clear, the question isn't well asked anyway.
 
@Code-Apprentice It wasn't "nitpicks". It was explaining why you needed to have an MCVE, and that Python users were not going to write R testcases for a mothballed package, that was being ported.
 
and most of your suggestions to "improve" my MCVE broke it
 
rbrb / nighty night, hopefully will see you guys tomorrow at the meeting
 
@Code-Apprentice No, I answered the question here in the chatroom verbally a month-and-a-half ago, as you acknowledged. The answer I posted was merely a formal writeup of what we concluded.
 
yes, some of your suggestions were helpful.
but I don't like being pestered about accepting an answer that I haven't decided if it meets my needs or not.
 
10:51 PM
@Code-Apprentice No, you never had an MCVE. It was not 'Minimal'. Hence the discussion. When a testcase breaks when you're porting it, look at the underlying (algorithmic) cause, don't just start blaming the target language.
 
@smci so I should just put print("Hello, World"). Is that minimal enough for you?
it's only one line
I wasn't blaming the target language. I was illustrating the implementation...ALL of which was necessary to show what I was doing.
I'm not going to argue about it any more. Thanks for your help. I'll accept (or not) in my own time. Don't bug me about it any more.
 
@Code-Apprentice I'm not "pestering" you. It's not allowed to have multiple askings. Soliciting hours and days of people's advice in chatroom, and them researching your issue, only to find it it was not a Python issue. If after two askings and 1.5 months the question isn't clear enough to attract answers, even after all that. I did suggest you could also self-answer and accept that.
I won't discuss the matter here in chat anymore, but please be mindful of not abusing people's help in a help forum.
 

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