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15:00
Will do, after I get off this fecking phone.
Tell them it's an urgent priority - a matter of life or death or something :p
well hello friends
it's been such a long time
ie. if they don't get off the phone - they'll be the person you were wanting to kill today
Howdy @Crowz
@crowz we missed you dude
since you've been gone, we haven't known how to carry on
15:02
and thus, with the coming monday, the journey begins anew... figuring out how to into web development
everytime you go away, you take a piece of us with you
yes I've been slowly draining your souls since I got here. I have that effect on people
Corvus Soul Harvester - dreadful things
@JonClements haha. I need VS2008 professional OR ELSE PEOPLE WILL DOWNLOAD VISTA
@JonClements aha! I see makes sense
@Crowz More like a Dementor @Jon
Well, if the moment comes, I won't hesitate using the Expecto-Patronum on you @Crowz
15:06
Be fantastic if your patronus was a python :)
oooooooooh yes! Definitely!
this is my song to get me inspired in the morning: youtube.com/watch?v=eGMN-gNfdaY
@IntrepidBrit and 13:30 in :)
15:29
hey
so, this book for school is asking to implement a dictionary type data structure. Would it be cheating to just use a dictionary?
Anyone have that website kevin linked once with games that are like less than 1mb ?
Or was it peter?
Doesn't ring a bell @Inbar
Found it
Nov 21 at 15:51, by Inbar Rose
I once heard that some crazy programmer made a first person shooter (with playable albeit horrible graphics) in assembly that can fit on a floppy disk.
Follow that you will see where I got cool comments.
16:00
Can anyone explain this comment on my answer?
You're creating a new list and re-binding the name, rather than modifying the underlying list
Oh yes, got it.
Could just do l[:] = ... so it's modified for all references
Oh, didn't know that. Thanks.
@JonClements so l[:] would return references to all elements right? (Like pointers)
If it helps you to think of it like that ... I guess
it's the same that slicing assignment does - just for the entire list
16:09
yeah, thanks.
hmm
my site is coming along nicely :D
@GamesBrainiac I would like to have a look, link please
@AshishNitinPatil Haven't pushed anything yet. But will do by the end of the day
And after that, I'll make the site for blog.sopython, so that we can all blog! :D
Okay, hope it gets starred if I am not here :D
Arrite then :D
Joe
Joe
16:16
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16:48
man. I hate writing in java for class
17:08
s/for class//
;)
this is probably a weird question, but what kind of algorithm is used in python to implement dictionaries?
basically a hash table
there is a really great pycon talk about how python dicts work available online
17:28
I think that I am misreading this question because this seems really easy, in python at least...
Write a client that creates a symbol table mapping letter grades to numerical scores, as in the table below, then reads from standard input a list of letter grades and computes and prints the GPA (the average of the numbers corresponding to the grades).
17:51
cabbage chat
Jerry!!!!!!
Jon!!!
Today was my last exam day, so I'm back :)
couple of things changed I see
errr no, no... it's all the same here.... looks around to make sure there's no left over blood or bits of body poking out anywhere
All's as normal as can be....
no no, I'm positive about it, there has been something which is not the same as before
though I can't put a finger as to what really :s
Well, I couldn't possibly get more awesome - so it's not that
18:05
yea, you don't seem to have changed a bit
ah well, don't worry about it now
if it ain't broke and all that :)
How'd you think you did on the exams?
I feel I did decently well on two of three sittings
That's good - not come away from them thinking: "omg... I'm f*ed"
I'm feel the worst for the one I failed last time because you know, I had a good feeling last time but it was a no goner
bah, I want to forget all this and try to catch up on things I've been missing
Well, if worst comes to worst, just advise someone that we've got a little bit more room left under the floor boards for bodies, so they'd better pass you
18:07
haha, they're closer to you than to me though ;P
the examination board is in UK
if only I could pinpoint the location...
and program it into a cruise missle
I can't count on that tea person of yours I forgot the name, Kevin I think was it?
oh no wait... that's probably not a good idea
yes, @Kevin's still about
still no tea though
why am I not impressed? xD
I'm starting to suspect this low-orbit tea cannon doesn't actually exists :(
18:09
but yea, he's bad at pinpointing people for some reason...
Umm... am I missing some kind of backdrop to this conversation that only one of us appear to be having?
maybe a cruise missile would do the job though
@Jerry probably best not to use it before they've marked the papers though
I need a dictionary now xD
ok
Here's an empty one: {}
18:10
ahh yea, probably
but before they publish the results though
there should be someone infiltrating their database to see the results
before it is backed up or anything of the sort
if result == fail then bomb
MI:Jerry's Exam - has a ring to it... I'll give Tom a bell right now see if he fancies yet another sequel
just make sure you're not in the area when the bomb is launched Jon
lol
otherwise, how are you doing and your niece?
I'm doing fine - same old busy.... Niece is doing fine... keeping her parents up nicely I hear... but all good... what you been up to apart from plotting the destruction of exam boards?
that's nice and I can understand xD Hmm, I've been... hmm, looking into some anime to watch I guess and thinking up of a pokedex program
though the latter is quite out of reach right now
I'll try to see if I can write it in Tcl first and then probably in python
I'm guessing "pokedex" is a rolex for pokemon ?
A card index thing?
18:15
oh no, it's an encyclopedia for pokemon
there're quite a few on the internet but the one I picture is different
I want to have tabs and make it a bit more interactive than the ones I've seen so far
Yours has an entry called "Jerry" and a picture of you?
hm question, does pseudocode essentially permit you to use tools of a language? Ie, if I wanted to use a python dictionary or JSON type of structure, would that be considered acceptable to use?
Ah no, the 'uniqueness' will be a section of the pokedex for a damage calculator and possibly split outcomes of a battle
and if I can add the 3D rendered models omg, I'd be thrilled to bits
I guess that as long as it seems easy to understand, I'd say yes @Crowz
@Jerry sorry - was trying to find something
it's okay :)
18:28
Nope - sanity's nowhere to be seen... I try now and again to find it... but - I think all is lost :(
if you have a 3 stages of experty levels and the first is padawan and the third is guru then what is the second?
Aren't you missing cabbage?
probably... but other than that?
;)
I don't know... I'm confused by the initial Starwars reference...
umm.. we can change the guru also
or if it is inevitable change the padawan
I don't want to use these basic terms: basic/novice -> advanced -> expert
18:35
Okay, padawan, knight, master
analysis of algorithms class... think this would be an acceptable answer? The teacher is a rough grader. gist.github.com/DarkCrowz/994e0048166288f2203a
@JonClements umm.. still too.. rigid? strict?
DSM
DSM
Cabbage.
cbg @DSM
DSM
DSM
@Crowz: you looking for a quick code review?
18:38
@DSM it's VERY simple, I'm just not sure if it's appropriate for an analysis of algorithms class if that makes sense
@PeterVaro errr.... well, if you're doing some grading - there has to be some rigidness - otherwise it's a bit pointless ;)
heya @DSM
ofc but nit in the naming, I guess
DSM
DSM
@Crowz: that depends on the course, I guess. But there are a few things you could look at: dictionary and user_input are bad variable names; you define classes_taken but never use it; you call str on user_input and grades when they're both already strings; you use .split(" "), which works, but is less general than .split() because it'll get tripped up on multiple spaces. You could also use a genexp instead of the total += loop, but that's more personal preference than anything.
@PeterVaro colours?
@DSM what is genexp?
18:43
@JonClements well, whose are not so easy to understand in a CV-like skill-set page
DSM
DSM
Generator expression. It's the (d[x] for x in somelist) part of sum(d[x] for x in somelist).
@JonClements btw, it is a good idea
@Peter degrees of storms
I'm thinking something like noob and legendary or something similar
you know, I'm trying to avoid those strict and traditional names for skill levels
@JonClements for example junior -> senior -> ...?
or junior -> ...? -> senior
Um.... yeah... you normally just go "programmer/developer" - as you'd use junior/senior as a prefix
18:51
@JonClements I found a goldmine: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/…
Awesome
@JonClements yeah, I thought that won't fit :)
Duke3D levels as well
Apparently, Star Wars is Youngling, Padawan, Knight, Master
You could also do Naval/Star Trek ranks.... start off as an ensign etc...
that's what I'm looking at right now
although ST is a subculture thing... much more than SW
Wow... I like the "Serious Sam" ranking.... When people say: "How good are you at Python" - I can say: "I'm mental"
18:56
:):):)
Whether I qualify or not for that level of expertise is another thing... but I like it
Mind you, "Supreme Master" also has a ring :)
now I'm on the other side... I can't decide :)
Or a combo: "How good are you at Python Mr. Clements?" - "hsssssss hsss hssss.... hahaha just kidding - no seriously - I'm mental.... pure hard core... God of the game, The boss extreme - they call me 'The Cleaner'"
:):):):):):) LMAO :):):):):)
Then who's "The Architect"?!
19:01
@AshishNitinPatil Guido Von Rossum
Oops, obvious answer :D
Um.... image of GvR sitting in a room full of cameras spying on Keanu Reeves.... didn't want that image :)
:)
he has the beard
@JonClements and you are not a Swashbuckler ?
@Peter err, no pain, no gain!? :p
@JonClements "I Don't Eat Quiche"
19:05
Nope... as I'm already extra crispy...
I'm a hellblazing elite jedi
... insane lunatic
I like this (this is a mix): Casual -> Fixer -> Guru
Not sure about fixer... but...
well.. it was better in my head..
:)
is this a level name? "bring me another smurf"
19:14
Not that I'm aware of - just made me chuckle
I know, I know.
user1227304
Oh god that's terrifying
Especially so if you're a smurf
@JonClements although it is one and a half hour concert I recommend this for you youtube.com/watch?v=KPgEoDt_Duc
probably he is the most talented guy on piano ever -- my personal hero for years
//this full concert is one big full improvisation
@peter thanks for sharing... I've bookmarked it
wooo... it's all improv. ?
19:21
yepp
he is the MASTER of improvistaion
a well skilled classical and jazz pianist
he also played with Miles Davis
awesome
so. My queries are running and they take 10 minutes. I guess it's time to watch cartoons...
19:38
rbrb
~
19:57
Cabbage
what is the best way to check if there are points in a set that overlap?
I have a set of points in a set. I want to detect collision between the points.
How would a "point" overlap ?
can you do os.listdir with relative paths?
well... guess not
0,10 - 2, 10 represents a straight line on a canvas. Anything that touches 0,10 or 1,10 or 2,10 is considered an overlap or collision.
but if it is 2,11 then it is no longer an overlap.
@crowz well you can but you'd need to be careful where it's relative to
Ahh... so you have a set of pairs of points ;)
@JonClements does version matter? I'm using 2.7.5
because I tried doing os.listdir('../var/csv/') and got this error: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '../var/csv/', then used an absolute path to the same directory and it worked fine
20:05
@Crowz and what does import os; os.getcwd() show you ?
well hello there, is that get current working directory?
it would be
@abhi are you basically asking how to determine if two lines intersect?
@jon Yes. @AshwiniChaudhary Thx.
Joe
Joe
20:20
Hello. Is anybody familiar with curl?
I am trying to login to 1 website to access data available on another site.
rhubarb
what would be the proper way to accomplish what I am trying to do?
zippedCSV = zipfile.ZipFile('data.zip', 'w')
for files in os.listdir(os.getcwd() + '/' + arguments.output):
   zippedCSV.write(files)
21:03
damn.. i'm exhausted.... rhubarb guys!
21:14
night all! rhubarb @PaoloCasciello
21:37
Link to my Solved question....
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Q: Python: Deleting Specific value from the list

Bugboy1028Let say if # Displaying old and reference in columns for better visual # old= [2,2,6,6,2,4, 6, 6, 8,2] reference=[7,1,6,2,4,9,10,16,12,5] ID=2 What is faster way to remove the variable ID from reference list and delete old[ reference[ID match] ] from the old list? I happens to develope...

My friend told me you can also delete via pop
is this true? ( Post the answer if answer is yes
22:13
what is the right word if I want to talk about the unity of body and mind; virtual and physical; art and science -- fullness OR completeness OR whole ?
DSM
DSM
@PeterVaro: if it's the unity you want to emphasize, I'd say "harmony".
harmony is a good word, thanks @DSM
22:43
@JonClements WOW!

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