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12:18 AM
@Scratte isn't this plausibly asking which API within Azure SQL is used for this? e.g., "does SQLite have an API to return table metadata?"
 
12:34 AM
Quiz for the observant: What is wrong with this question stackoverflow.com/q/55573543/1839439
 
@RyanM That is plausible. I was reading it as a sort of "Is there a java API what will ..."
 
@Dharman The word "Change" is incorrectly capitalized, and the last sentence ends in a period despite being a question :-p
 
I would expect it to be answered with a name of an api or a service. Which would all like like NAA's.
 
@RyanM No.
 
12:40 AM
Me: "Ah yes that is a good `cv-pls`, I shall vote to close it with this canned comment"
SO: "You voted to close this question 7 hours ago"
Me: "...well, at least I'm consistent."
 
@Dharman A small code block to show how it's implemented, so it's obvious how it's not working properly? (Is there a prize for getting the quiz right?)
 
@Scratte No. I don't know what prize I can offer you. Maybe a thanks emoji?
Hint: You need to look at all the answers
 
Not even a TONY THE PONY 🐴 emoji? What kind of terrible prize is this?
 
@Dharman Is this like a trick quesiton, where the answer is: It's not closed?
 
@RyanM Ohh no that's 4 times. Here he comes
@Scratte It's tricky, but it's not that
 
12:44 AM
Is it that why are you triggering anything on the change of a state variable instead of more directly on a change in props?
 
No
 
@Dharman So, you are looking for a particular close reason. While all of the answers are going in each their direction, my final offer is opinion based.
 
@Dharman is...is this where Tony the Pony comes from originally? I sort of assumed it was gibberish
which in retrospect doesn't really make sense.
 
I honestly don't know the origins
I know the meme originated with Bobince here on Stack Overflow, but where it was originally from I do not know
@Scratte Still no.
 
The suspense is ⚰️ me :)
 
12:49 AM
Is it that it's an XY problem, and you really don't want to stop renders, you just want a queue of sounds?
 
Oh my! There's really an actual tony the pony?!?.. :D
 
@RyanM I think you are going the wrong way there. No. It has something to do more with the question and answers as considered together, rather than with the actual problem.
 
My theory was that the answers answered Y when the question asked for X in the XY problem
 
@Dharman Are you talking about the votes?
 
@Scratte Warmer.
 
12:52 AM
@Dharman I see it now.. you need to flag this.
 
I have already.
 
Do you have a script that goes and checks?
 
No, but you can search for the obvious cases if you know what to look for. Then it's only a matter of looking at history to figure out what happened.
 
Is it that the question is listed as licensed under CC-BY-SA 4.0 despite being asked 5 months before the license switch?
oh wow
no, I see it
how on earth did you find that?
 
@Dharman I reckon you're not talking about the history of the post :)
 
12:56 AM
@RyanM That is certainly interesting, but no.
You can more or less see what happened by looking at the history of the post and answers
I am not sure if you only say that you see it now to make me say it out loud or if you really see it.
 
There's no history on the answers, other than queue results :)
 
When did the users disappear?
 
No, I'm pretty confident I see the actual thing, which is a very clear flaggable offense. I have no earthly idea how you searched for it
and I think a mod has just found your flag, because the answer scores just plummeted
 
@Dharman Wait.. what? That doesn't make sense.
 
the users disappeared sometime between when I said "oh wow" and 18:00 PDT (~5min later)
 
1:01 AM
Oh.. just now :)
 
I think there actually might be a lurker in this room. My flags don't get handled so quickly.
 
Heh.. probably not just one :)
 
So, sockpuppets? How did you spot it? I found one a few days ago but that was easy - one was called xxx and the other xxx2.
 
An answer was unaccepted 2 months ago at the same time that two new answers popped up written by brand new users. Both with high score and one of them got accepted immediately.
 
Are you using a bot to watch for suspicious things? Or FP review or something?
Your answer may in fact be "it's a secret because I don't want to tip off your someone's voting ring" and that would be fine
 
1:11 AM
As a normal user, I don't see everything and I can never be sure if something is a voting fraud or not, but this certainly lit up a red flag for me. I flagged 5 users, but I counted at least 7 gone so there was probably more that I could not see.
 
So how did you spot this one? Surely you don't look at post history on every post?
 
No. I wrote an SEDE query which gives very good suspects. It does not always show voting fraud, but it does give me the usernames that are gaining reputation unreasonably fast.
 
@Dharman s/doesn't/does/, I suspect nothing to see here
 
Stupid autocorrect. Never works when you need it.
 
^ I think they call that the Waffle™-effect
 
1:22 AM
@DavidBuck Abuse directed at you because of actions taken on this site, even if the abuse was directed at you through off-site channels, is something that you should probably report to us mods via flag. Even if we don't do anything immediately, it's good to have a record of it.
 
Suddenly not regretting my decision to remove my last name from my username...
You could still work out what it is with maybe 10 minutes of detective work, but I suspect most people won't bother
 
@RyanM I think you underestimate how far people may go.. and passion is not always a good thing.
 
@akrun I missed the earlier discussion about this, but I did want to say that I and other moderators have personally reviewed the voting history against your account multiple times. We take the reports very seriously. However, you've not been the victim of targeted downvotes. Rather, what happens is that some of the questions you answer end up getting closed as duplicates, and your answers are DVed as "not useful" (since they repeat what is already available in the answers to the dupe).
 
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually did bother. But such is the regrettably inevitable result of using one's real identity online. I do wish companies (lookin' at you, Comcast) would be a little less cavalier about connecting my name to my address by selling my personal info to anyone who asks and has money, though. That would make it a bit harder to show up at my door.
 
1:38 AM
@blackgreen Moderator flags are the best way to get this kind of thing addressed. You don't need to discuss it in Charcoal or anywhere else. Only diamond moderators have all of the important information available to us for investigation purposes, and only diamond moderators can take action against the account. We get a lot of flags on SO, and we're running a bit low on mods at the moment, so the response time isn't immediate. We do appreciate your patience. We do get around to them all eventually.
@AdrianMole If a post that has pending spam/abusive flags is deleted, then the flags are automatically marked helpful. It's always been this way. Arguably a misfeature from a user-moderation perspective, but it makes sense from a post-moderation perspective. If you see a pattern, raise a custom mod flag. Those don't get auto-dismissed.
 
 
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4:20 AM
@CodyGray Is a "I have this question too" answer an NAA, or VLQ?
 
@Chipster NAA. Not that it matters.
 
user10957435
@CodyGray That's what I guessed, but figured I'd ask you. Thanks.
 
@Chipster Mods handle NAA and VLQ flags on answers pretty much identically. We don't agonize over the difference, and neither should you. Both mean "needs to be deleted by a moderator". But, yeah, technically, "I have this question, too" is not an answer to the question, which means "NAA".
 
user10957435
What is technically a VLQ, then?
 
An answer in another language would be VLQ.
"Yo tengo la misma problema" is both NAA and VLQ
Accidentally posting gibberish would be VLQ and NAA. Something that looks like it tried to answer the question, but the grammar is so bad that you can't even figure out what they're trying to say would be VLQ
 
4:27 AM
@Chipster An answer that needs to be deleted by a moderator for some reason other than not attempting to answer the question.
 
user10957435
Got you. Makes sense.
 
It's a stupid flag, really. But for the once or twice something needs to be deleted, isn't NAA, and isn't rude/abusive, you can use it.
For VLQ as applied to questions, you can read this little novella I wrote.
 
The secret of the VLQ flag on answers is that it virtually never applies in any situation other than a non-English answer
 
user10957435
So does VLQ send post to the Low Quality Queue specifically?
 
user10957435
Or maybe to others send it there as well?
 
4:33 AM
@RyanM NAA works there, too. Stack Overflow requires all answers to be in English.
I believe both VLQ and NAA send an answer to the Low Quality Posts review queue. After an hour, they send the post to the mod flag dashboard, too.
 
user10957435
Yeah, so it's basically a pointless flag that nobody can agree on. Got it :D
 
I believe Cody is correct, and the only difference being that edits outside of the VLQ queue will kick a post out of the queue if it was flagged as VLQ, but not if it was flagged as NAA
and now I'm gonna look that up to make sure I didn't make it up...
 
An even better example than Ryan's non-English answer is an answer that says something rude. It technically does attempt to answer the question, but it still has irredeemable content problems and needs to be deleted. Extreme examples of this would be eligible for a red "abusive" flag, but milder cases might not be.
 
user10957435
@RyanM Interesting. Noted for later.
 
@RyanM Correct.
 
4:39 AM
@CodyGray So something like "I guess you could try clearing the cache, because [2-page rant about why the technology involved is so terrible that you'd even have to consider this solution]"?
 
@RyanM Yes.
 
I will not be naming the technology I am thinking of in this hypothetical
 
"Reboot your computer. Microsoft's operating system is such a steaming pile of crap that... " <-- VLQ
 
user10957435
@CodyGray Though true :D
 
You can split hairs about anything, of course. Someone might want to argue that the "reboot your computer" part is an answer to the question. But that hypothetical post would still need to be deleted, because it's not useful to anyone.
 
user10957435
4:41 AM
Fair enough.
 
@CodyGray +1 to everything in that post, I vote to recommend deletion on such answers when I see them in VLQ review, and I think I'm more forgiving than most reviewers in that queue...
 
user10957435
I mean on Super User, I could see that being a legitimate answer but it depends on the context. Also, a question that ends in "please try restarting your computer" and that fixes it is very unlikely to be helpful to future readers unless it's very specific what's going on and why a restart would fix it.
 
user10957435
On SO, though, I don't see that being a good answer very often, though.
 
The Android equivalent is invalidate caches/restart Android Studio, clear Gradle caches, kill the Gradle daemon, etc...unfortunately, it seems a recent version of Android Studio shipped with a bug that is fixed that way and now there are like 50 questions with the same root issue and it's impossible to tell if they're actually dupes or the OP has another problem
and I'm sad about it
 
4:49 AM
It might be the right answer on SO or SU. But it needs some kind of rationale about why it fixes the problem. Or at least confirmation that it actually does. It cannot simply be a WAG (Wild Ass Guess).
 
user10957435
@RyanM Eek.
 
"I solved this problem with Android Studio by upgrading to an iPhone."
 
My favorite answer that I thought might be a WAG at first was in response to a question of "Android emulator fails to start with XYZ error messsage". Answer: "Do you have Valorant [new video game from Riot Games] installed?" I'm internally thinking "No way..." and then the OP accepted the answer.
Kernel drivers for anti-cheat are a plague upon humanity :-(
@CodyGray joke's on you, you can still write Flutter apps for iPhone in Android Studio :D
(I think you need Xcode somehow still though. I dunno, though, I don't have an iPhone. Or a Mac.)
 
@RyanM And you'd probably want to, given everything I've heard about XCode.
 
@RyanM This reminds me - when I was starting to do C# development a colleague half-jokingly said that the best way to prepare a dev environment is to install a few games. Since each comes with its own .NET environment, you'll soon have enough for any source code you open. That one doesn't work with version X? Easy, switch to version Y.
 
4:55 AM
Games written in .NET? Bleh.
 
Not, they come with .NET. Because Microsoft also offer the option to use C++ with .NET. I don't know the exact differences with non-.NET C++ but I think MS has garbage collection.
Also, some games are in Unity and you can use C# for it.
 
C++/CLI has nothing to do with C++, other than the syntax.
And almost nobody ever uses it, except for interop with C# or VB.NET code.
 
Very possible.
 
I used to know a thing or two about .NET. My Stack Overflow profile still thinks I'm an expert. As do recruiters.
 
5:11 AM
@CodyGray I knew a guy who had put down VB on his CV ages ago. He used it before there was .NET. And he said that every once in a while he gets an email from somebody going "We see you have Visual Basic experience, we have a great .NET position for you"
 
@VLAZ The joke on me is that nobody ever contacts me about C++ positions. The only recruiters that ever reach out to me are asking about .NET, where my knowledge is very much out-of-date and I'm not sure I want to go back to it anyway.
 
@CodyGray From my experience (in different geographical region, admittedly), .NET seems to be in big demand. Lots of positions open.
I'm not a .NET programmer myself but I've started converting recently. Mostly because of the company I'm in. It's...a bit complex but I was hired for Java with the expectation to transition to C#.
I'm not sure whether I'll continue down the .NET path at my next workplace. I am not explicitly against it but I might also try something different.
 
C# really is a better Java. But some day, you will discover C++, and you will see that it is a better version of both. At least, that's what happened to me.
 
:D I did some C++ in Uni. It wasn't good. I mean the things I wrote with it. Also the educator we had. I've heard more recent versions of the standard are much better than what we had (maybe 99?).
 
5:28 AM
Hasn't changed that much since C++98.
There are some nice new features in the standard library.
 
6:06 AM
The clean-up service has arrived.
 
@rene But you left all of my noisy, off-topic messages! Not a very good cleanup service.
 
Yeah, I'm cherry picking right now ...
@SardarUsama also has a pending edit
 
6:46 AM
On very high trafic tags, answers in few seconds is common. With reference to cv-pls request above, please see this answer on that question. It is posted by user who is user since 6 years. This is his first answer. The answer was post within 5-10 seconds. DICOM is not high trafic tag. Is there something wrong? The links are not spammy.
 
@AmitJoshi I was suspicious of the answer as well, but I couldn't find anything concrete
 
@AmitJoshi It was posted within about 5 minutes, so I think it's a reasonable interval
 
:49743931 It does, but also it's copied straight off the GitHub page
 
@RyanM yeah, on further link clicking it's non-commercial so it would be mean to call it spam. Still, OP does say that it doesn't work for them so it's not much use as an answer.
 
tl;dr I'm suspicious, but I see no hard evidence of spam
It is a useless answer that is excluded by the OP in the question, but that's nothing new...
 
7:03 AM
Can I urge everyone to not remove messages if there is not really much wrong with it? If you're not insulting me or Cody just leave them around.
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@AlonEitan definitely spam ^
 
@rene no worries. The one I removed was pretty much completely wrong.
 
Okay
 
While we're on the topic of spam and messages (yay bad segues) could I request SD privileges in here?
 
@rene Why's that, exactly?
 
7:51 AM
@MikeM. because it makes me alert as that "trick" was used to try to hide stuff from RO's, either *-pls requests and/or throwing insults around. I want that addressed, not put away and forgotten, hence me checking. As there were two in a row I chose to speak up before this got into a trend.
We're all good, please return to our regular schedule.
 
Feel free to leave any and all messages insulting me. (Besides, I can see them even when they're deleted.)
 
@CodyGray Glasses!
 
@rene Ah, OK. I'd never heard about that before, and there doesn't seem to be anything in the FAQ about it.
 
Remember, @MikeM., that this room goes out of its way to avoid even the illusion of impropriety.
Seeing a lot of deleted messages in the transcript makes one wonder.
 
@MikeM. sure, I think there is an implicit "use common sense" in there but sometimes I like to call out on that. It is not a big deal. Specially as I saw nothing in those message at first inspection that needed removal, that is all
 
8:00 AM
Mine was redundant, which is the only reason I removed it. I wasn't aware that I was being shady.
 
@MikeM. okay, I'll be less jumpy next time. No harm done.
 
@rene Nah, you're good. I just hadn't ever known about that. I thought it was something to do with the scripts, or something.
 
8:17 AM
@MikeM. The main thing the scripts do with deleted messages is that the Archiver automatically shows ROs (and moderators) any deleted messages in the main chat window or transcripts (either just on mouse hover, or always shown). The Archiver also assumes any deleted message by SmokeDetector is a handled report, and moves that message to the Graveyard the next time archiving is done.
 
Can ROs normally see deleted messages, or is this scripting magic?
 
Rob
They can, but not in the chat directly. It's only visible in the message history
 
^that. The Archiver fetches the message content from the history and inserts it into the chat and transcript views.
 
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Q: Delete my [server-configuration]

lifeisfooI found the server-configuration tag on a question about nginx configuration and it appears to be a very good candidate for burnination. Burnination criteria: Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? No This tag has 173 questions (10 in 2019, 1...

 
9:05 AM
Is there an appropriate flag for quiz questions of the sort "which one is correct, a) b) or c)" like this one or is a custom one the best fit?
Because the question is clear. It's focused. It's not opinion based. It's just so low effort.
 
user12867493
@VLAZ I would just do not reproducible or caused by a typo
 
It's within the broad spirit but I personally disagree. I can see why somebody else could pick that, however. I prefer to use that reason for things code problems that can be solved in a comment or something like "Turning it off and on again worked".
 
@Daniil that one seems even less applicable IMO, especially with the "while similar questions may be on-topic..." messaging. I'd probably do a custom reason for the vote. As far as a flag...not sure. Maybe needs more focus, in that it's not a specific programming problem, it's a specific quiz question.
it could probably be rewritten into something on-topic, like "how to iterate over the properties of an object in JavaScript" but I'm realllllly disinclined to do that for someone who just copy-pasted their homework, despite my usual inclination to try to salvage some value from questions
 
9:20 AM
@RyanM The issue is that any amount of research would have yielded the answer. Yes, I could see it as a better question if it was "I'm trying to do iterate over keys but I can't find the correct way. I tried X and Y but didn't get the results I wanted" or something like that.
 
@VLAZ oh I agree, hence my quibble with the assertion that similar questions may be on-topic. They won't be, because they'll all be closed as lazy homework dumps.
 
9:55 AM
@VLAZ I think the custom reason given in the comment is best for such questions.
 
10:12 AM
This one looks no good. What was our stance on ffmpeg questions again?
 
@E_net4feelstargeted "Only questions about programmatic use of the FFmpeg libraries, API, or tools are on topic. Questions about interactive use of the command line tool should be asked on Super User or Video Production."
 
@Dharman So... modflag?
 
or wait 8 days
 
Ah, was this the SOCVR effect.
 
I find the SOCVR effect to be "Undefined" :)
 
10:26 AM
@tripleee you have a hammer for Python - if you think it's a dupe - why not close it as such?
 
Because I already voted to close as unclear yesterday
 
oh yeah... missed that :)
 
10:38 AM
@RiggsFolly weird that it didn't produce a tag. Script bug?
@Adriaan that answer is actually NAA. Not sure what else to do with it, though.
 
Still worth rejecting the edit. This is done.
 
Ah, damn! I meant the answer by OP is NAA. The other answer seems relevant.
 
@VLAZ wait for a lurking puppy to take care of the entire thing
 
Too late. :P
 
meh... that can just go... it's not of any use even restored to its normal form... no point wasting time explaining to the OP they should delete their answer so they can delete their post... might as well just jump straight to the end result for that one
 
10:45 AM
"So, where is the solution to the bug?" "The dog ate it" :D
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@VLAZ I don't eat bugs... that's ewwwww.... what kind of puppy do you think I am? :(
 
@JonClements I can totally see you snapping at them and accidentally swallow one making your eyes even bigger.
 
'cos I'm not freaky enough already, right? :p
 
@VLAZ the dog is a git
 
@JonClements yes.
 
11:00 AM
:)
@JohnDvorak is that better or worse than being a mercurial?
 
Can someone kindly edit this question to add and/or tags, so that I can subsequently close it as an N-th duplicate (I'm a gold badge holder for both tags)? Do same standard scaling on train and prediction data using in scikt-learn
Both tags are applicable here - thanks
thanks @Georgy
 
@desertnaut np
 
As in, a spurge?
I suppose Rene might know what's it like to be a spurge.
"algorithm" is not an external resource
 
I'd like a second opinion on this answer
 
You could argue for underdefined, but... meh.
@Scratte 🔥
 
11:14 AM
@JohnDvorak So.. NAA. Thanks :)
 
@JohnDvorak Hmm.. yeah, you are probably right. I never know for sure what to do about these types of questions.
 
11:25 AM
Why is it that Stack will update any positive rep change to the top bar, but not any negative? So that one has to refresh the page only for negative changes?
 
It's because there's nothing you can do about those damn haters hating your perfectly legitimate answers, but each time sometimes does like your answers, you should pop a champagne. See, actionable content. /s
 
@Scratte we want to give you a positive vibe.
 
@Scratte I have seen a meta post long time ago. We are seeing the positif feedback, i.e. achievements
 
@JohnDvorak if that was a thing then Jon Skeet must have no blood left in his champagne stream :)
 
@yivi did you retract your closing vote in your request?
 
11:36 AM
@JohnDvorak Hmm.. I'm out of champagne :) Which is good, since I think someone just tested their accept button and as a result the reputation just stayed higher.
@Vega I only see the number. The bubble was a distraction :)
 
@Scratte the bubbles in the champagne, right? :)
 
@JonClements Mesmerizing.. try not to snap at them though ;) I hear you already have trouble with balance.
 
Well, I suppose I'm one leg less, but not legless :)
 
Can some one give the the link to canned messages, specially for the lack of attribution?
Oh, too late :o, the posts are gone
 
OK, can somebody tell me what's happening? For the second time I saw this: I downvoted an answer then -> clicked follow -> I was told that I was no longer following the answer.
This isn't a feature in the cv-pls userscript, I guess.
Is it the wrong message or am I actually following the answer automatically?
I'll have to try it out more but maybe somebody else encountered it too.
 
11:47 AM
@Vega I tried to find it in answers.md, but I do not think it's there.
Oops.. I think perhaps it's the top one :)
 
@VLAZ I've seen some weird reports around error messages when that feature was introduced, I expect a race condition.
 
Also worth noting, I get a banner for this. I'm not sure what's happening. Both thimes this happened this was the first answer I downvoted. Tried to replicate with the second one and it worked normally.
 
@Scratte Excellent, thank you very much!
I will keep it on hand for the next time :)
 
I think the user script uses them
 
@desertnaut accidentally. Clumsy monkey.
 
12:12 PM
May I have an appraisal of this question/page. I will openly admit that the question is not great -- I was only just a young SO pup when I posted it. Should I remove it? All of my questions get revenge downvoted, but this one never recovers. Thoughts? stackoverflow.com/q/24449162/2943403
 
@Scratte But I don't use the user script :(
 
I hate that my other negative-tally question is downvoted, but I there is nothing more that I can add to it to make it better and I believe eventually it will make it back to zero.
 
@Vega Me neither.. not that one :)
@mickmackusa 6 users find out useful. But more importantly 2 users found the answer useful.
 
@mickmackusa meh, it is a nice honeypot.
 
12:18 PM
only 1000 views in 6 years means it's not terribly useful.
(not easily found)
 
@mickmackusa I disagree. It means that 1000 people landed on it. Maybe 998 found it useful, but couldn't vote.
 
I thought about self-deleting it, but I don't want the tag:badge-of-shame
 
You want it gone because you'd rather have your other posts downvoted? :)
 
@mickmackusa the only thing you could do is re-evaluate the tags. Maybe better fitting ones exist today. Maybe not many users actually do what you try to achieve there. Definitely not something you would work when you start your PHP /PDF 101 class.
 
I find that it attracts more revenge votes than my other questions. I assume because it is my worst question or more likely because it is already in the negative.
 
12:23 PM
yes. I have such a question as well. I carefully crafted it to become the target.
 
So leave the pincushion in place then.
 
@JohnDvorak just posted this ;)
 
I see no reason to delete it. As Scratte said, it is a good honey-pot. I checked the anonymous feedback but it looks like there is none. The 8 upvotes mean that someone found it useful.
 
So chimes in the new campaign manager of Downvoting! Ha.
 
@mickmackusa that would be my advice. If you remove it you give in and it will be replaced by a new pin cushion.
 
@RiggsFolly you shouldn't cv-pls and answer the question. stackoverflow.com/questions/62574201/…
 
@mickmackusa should we nuke & repost this due to [cv-pls] instead of ? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/49746182#49746182
 
12:51 PM
@rene One for the Scrum Master? stackoverflow.com/q/62574277/10871073
 
@desertnaut I don't Python. Were you wanting the final close vote on that one? I try not to interfere with tags outside of my knowledge scope.
 
@mickmackusa no, I am just wondering if the request is still valid w/o the correct tag used. I meant to nuke my request, not the post
 
@AdrianMole nothing technical about it.
 
That sounds like a question for the room owner(s), not me.
 
ooops, thought you were one! sorry
 
12:55 PM
@desertnaut I believe you can ask an RO to bin it manually once it's closed
 
Well, technically, I skipped.
 
if you link to what needs binned I take care of it
 
Did you know that on mobile there is no way to see who's a room owner?
 
@desertnaut it will be picked up by our scripts but we do prefer [tag:cv-pls] also for visibility
 
@rene understood. So, is it OK to leave it there for the time being?
 
12:59 PM
yeah, I keep an eye on it in case it doesn't get picked up
 
@rene cool, thanks
 
Or another RO comes by and removes it, that is somewhat out of my control.
 
understood, too - I'll also keep an eye on it
 
I just KNEW you would see that one.
The guy was begging, obviously had no idea what he was doing. So I took pity on him. I was fairly sure I could delete the answer before he accepted it, but I got distracted by Work.
Sincere apologise
 
No worries @RiggsFolly I hope we are friends again.
 
1:10 PM
@mickmackusa Sure, never was an enemy. When I am wrong I am wrong,cannot get upset about being called out for it
 
I think this new thanks feature works really well stackoverflow.com/q/62565570/1839439
 
@mickmackusa if we can wrangle a couple of DV's we can get rid of the question
 
Heh.. I just reviewed one of NathanOliver's posts :)
 
Delete and flagged as rude?
 
@RiggsFolly Yeah sure. I have just warned the OP. stackoverflow.com/q/62574201/2943403
@Dharman That is hilarious! But honestly, whenever I hear "thanks feature" I dry wretch.
 
1:18 PM
No. I just VLQ No actions needed :)
 
Okay then.
@RiggsFolly oi, we're not organizing a voting ring here, right? Right!
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It was obviously an audit. Too well written to not notice anyway. Not sure why not less easily detectable ones go in as audits.
 
@rene Of course not. That would be illegal.
 
sure, sure
 
@Dharman I remember a few Decembers ago, I was hunting for mystery hats and I jumped on the pages and easily found 100 "thanks/+1" comments to flag in no time. Sadly, there was no special hat for reaching the max flags in a day.
 
1:22 PM
LOL
 
@mickmackusa Maybe we should have one that looks like this. See the man is doing the thanking sign with his hands. But they are placed on his head like a hat. Appropriate.
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@VLAZ Brilliant. I like the idea.
 
Oh Heavens forbid sir.
Honest that was not my intent at all, just to clean up a bit of a boob of mine was all
 
A what of yours?
 
John Boob = Mistake, hiccup, Woops
 
1:34 PM
@RiggsFolly cheers!
 
We don't have enough votes
 
@JohnDvorak Uh..
 
Only 1.4M questions. Let's get crackin!
 
1:43 PM
@Makyen oops... Rule 17 violation?
 
Fun fact: I'd say 2/3 to 3/4 of all the newest PHP questions are closable. In case you wonder why I don't answer too many anymore
 
@desertnaut Yes.
 
@Makyen Understood and will comply in the future - apologies
 
@Machavity DF Fun, I assume.
 
@desertnaut np. Thank you.
 
1:45 PM
@E_net4feelstargeted DF?
 
Remind me, do I lose a delete vote when I delete my own answer?
 
Aren't those completely independent actions?
 
@Dharman unlikely
 
You cann't earn
 
1:52 PM
No. Deletion is just a binding vote to delete.
 
I remember that I lose one vote, but I can't remember when.
 
@Dharman Check your profile page: "Votes & Reactions" -> "Deletion" Shows your latest delete votes cast.
 
No, that's not what I meant.
I have 10 delete votes. If I use one to delete my own answer I will then have only 9 delete votes.
 
 
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Adding thanks comment and using thanks reaction: stackoverflow.com/posts/62578051/timeline
 
3:33 PM
 
What an easy question to close
 
I was already typing cv-pls :)
 
4:00 PM
Should I ping the editor?
In theory, the question is a typo, but there so many upvotes
 
@Vega please do. The edit makes the question meaningless.
Also, I was confused briefly because I thought the edit was made to the accepted answer (not sure why I thought that) and I was ready to comment that it's correct and to leave it.
 
@VLAZ Ok, I did. I am not sure about my English (sorry for the cliché ;) ), but I did my best
 
"reasons" :) raison looks a bit French :)
 
Oh, non, it's to late to edit :( Thank you @Scratte, I will pay attention to my "reasons"
 
4:14 PM
@Vega I don't think it matters. Anyone can make out what you mean :)
 
:)
 
4:28 PM
@Scratte Or "raisins?" :-)
 
@AdrianMole You mean little dried wrinkly grapes? :D
 
Indeed! There is, IMHO, a distinct shortage of little dried wrinkly grapes in Stack Overflow answers. The site would be so much better with more. 🍇
Or is raising raisins unreasonable?
 
But.. the emoji is of grapes, which could just turn into 🍷 :) Not sure what happens when raisins are raised. Are they kids or errors?
 
In French, raisins is not for dried ones, but for the fresh one - strange transition. The raisins we call "raisins secs" or dried grapes
 
The English are notorious for taking words from other languages (especially French) and then using them incorrectly.
 
4:42 PM
I do the same ;)
 
The French words make more sense here. But fails with potatoes. They are not earth/dirt apples :)
 
@Scratte I think it's a more 'poetic' name: "Fruit of the Soil."
 
@AdrianMole Ah.. you even make it sound romantic :D
The "I like potatoes" makes so much more sense now
 
I like potatoes.
 
Everything in French sounds romantic. (Ooh, la-la!)
Any guess what the next incarnation of "E_net4..." will be?
 
I'm guessing E_net4_is_feeling_romantic
 
Actually, I'm feeling uncomfortable over the amount of hatred towards downvotes right now. :(
 
Well, then, get more potato-votes.
 
@E_net4feelstargeted That doesn't make any sense. I thought the post was making downvotes more loved.
 
@Scratte Like anything in life, every action has a counter-action.
A post looking for ways to encourage downvotes attracts people who despise downvotes.
 
4:50 PM
dang newton and his laws of motion. He should have just made them guidelines
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A meat convention may also attract vegan fundamentalists.
This is hardly any different.
And when the insults come, blood starts to boil and spill.
 
@E_net4feelstargeted That's a little different. Nobody died for the downvote.
 
Good thing I'll be going to the gym in half an hour. :)
@Scratte One may argue that "people were hurt" for them.
 
@E_net4feelstargeted Still not the same thing :) Nobody is forced to sigh up.
 
Well, it seems that "E_net4 the hateful and toxic downvoter" is too long. :)
 
4:57 PM
I think they just noticed that you had "downvote" in the name and are just saying it's too long. =P
 
@IanCampbell I don't have a "downvote". I am a "downvote".
 
@NathanOliver Now you've gone and made me want to be a physics teacher. I shall plant myself firmly in the "Revisionist" camp.
 
For or folks, really. Should this be migrated to Code Review? I'm sort of 50:50 but one of the commentators thinks so. But no CV, yet.
 
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