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5:01 AM
Is entry into the close vote queue broken? I'm not seeing anything left for [android] and there are definitely questions with at least one close vote that I haven't reviewed.
 
5:36 AM
There is a Disneyland queue. Questions are entertained while they snake into the real queue. 6 to 8 hours waiting time from here.
 
@RyanM (serious) questions are taken out of review queues for a brief time when anybody reviews them. To prevent too many reviewers getting them at once. So, a question can definitely be up for review but (for short time) outside the review queue. Not sure what the time is there.
(less serious) In the mean time they enjoy 6-8 moments of entertainment in the Disneyland queue
 
5:56 AM
@VLAZ Makes sense, I knew that was true for suggested edits but didn't know it was true for the other queues. Do you know what the timing is?
 
No, I don't.
 
Unrelated: should a user who's going around leaving a lot of "Please provide an explanation. Code-only answers get flagged as low-effort. Thanks" comments be discouraged from doing so on the basis that this is not a flaggable issue?
 
Meh.
 
@RyanM the job itself runs every 5 minutes, the review lock can be up to 20 minutes if not longer.
@RyanM if that comment comes with their downvote then I say kudos to them.
 
Based on the upvotes they're getting on the comments, the votes that I'm seeing in review, and the fact that I'm unable to view any of these comments from before 16 hours or so ago, I suspect they're having a lot of success getting these answers deleted via review, despite them clearly not being NAA
 
6:01 AM
@RyanM encourage them to drop the flag thing. Let them use the rest of the comment.
 
@VLAZ yeah, my sole issue is the suggestion that it's flaggable, primarily because it appears to be misleading VLQ reviewers
I'm all for discouraging code-only answers, but it's not flaggable - if a mod sees those flags, they'd be consistently declined
 
Exactly. A lot code-only answers are not flaggable. Definitely downvoteable, though.
Of course there are exceptions to that. For example, if it's code but it's commented well or structured in a way that makes it clear what the code does.
But most of the time it's just a "try this <code>" and it seems like the answerer themselves didn't know whether it would work or not. In some cases it really is just some random functionality they threw together that maybe sort of relates to the question but not completely. Without explanation that's hard to see and understand.
 
in a recent case, the answer was "Use this command: npm cache clean --force" - it got 3 Recommend Deletion reviews and two Looks OK (one from me), which punted it from the queue
which seems like clearly an answer to me. I have no idea if it's a correct answer or if it's just the sort of person who blindly suggests Invalidate Caches and Restart on every Android Studio problem (unfortunately, there was a nasty bug recently that is solved quite similarly to that...)
 
On another unrelated note: Is it possible to see my own closure votes by type? I'm mainly curious how many dupe votes I've cast compared to other kinds.
 
@VLAZ you can see which posts you were a close voter on, and what the majority reason was in SEDE (posthistory table). Scrape your profile for better data.
 
6:16 AM
Also, possibly a first for me: my count of close-vote reviews is greater than the number of pending items in the close vote queue
 
@rene I was afraid of that... So, I cannot see the exact reason I picked? That's very annoying. I know that I was sometimes not with the majority if only because 2 votes were for typo and I voted for dupe that's relevant for that typo.
I suppose to get a more accurate count, I'll have to get all my comments suggesting a dupe - those are left after closure, if the reason wasn't a duplicate.
But it's too much work. I just wanted to see a quick count of some sort.
 
6:45 AM
No FREE spam today! Free spam yesterday; free spam tomorrow.
 
Make Spam Free Again!
 
7:23 AM
@RyanM Then how come is the VLQ queue full of those answers? How to put a VLQ answer into the queue in the first place (after it got through Triage and First posts)?
 
@RyanM Maybe tell them there's a better comment; I sometimes add the canned one from AutoReviewComments) but seldom flag as NAA or VLQ. Sometimes I downvote if it's an especially terse piece of code.
This is the comment: While this code may solve the question, including an explanation of how and why this solves the problem would really help to improve the quality of your post, and probably result in more up-votes. Remember that you are answering the question for readers in the future, not just the person asking now. Please [edit] your answer to add explanations and give an indication of what limitations and assumptions apply.
 
Also, it's a bit cheeky but you can just play dumb. Something to the effect of "Can you explain how this works? I am not sure if it solves the problem".
 
@VLAZ sometimes I do this
@bad_coder I'm going to point you to this meta post because it does a better job of explaining it than I would: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/287563/…
@bad_coder for your second question: an NAA or VLQ flag sends it into that queue
 
Answers don't go through Triage; only Questions.
 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62528081/how-is-the-transfer-printed-fabric-made
Spam
 
7:36 AM
Ah, yeah, and I set my VLQ filter to answers only because I never know what to do with questions in that queue, plus I review enough questions in the CV queue
@VadimKotov generally you'd want to preface this with [tag:flag-pls] (good find on the spam, though)
 
@VadimKotov here are some examples for the markup to use: socvr.org/faq#cv-pls-format-other-requests
 
@SmokeDetector Oops - Busy in FP Review.
 
7:55 AM
@RyanM thanks, just forgot to add this
 
8:46 AM
Any easy way of finding a recently (within the last 1-3 hours) deleted questions from a user? SEDE doesn't seem to show anything, I assume because it's not indexed yet.
 
^ Needs details or clarity. No MRE!
 
> Python is written in English :D
 
Is it allowed here to delv-pls answers such as this one? See my comment, doesn't add any new info to the post, where answers as old as 6 years already cover the exact contents of this answer and much more
 
@Vega no, it's in parseltongue :F
(forked tongue face)
 
How awful ;)
 
9:00 AM
@Adriaan you'd be doing the poster a favour...
 
^ NAA, right?
 
@VLAZ or an answer including a follow-up question?
 
@Adriaan Yeah, I'm not sure if it qualifies as an answer or it's just a follow up question.
 
@VLAZ definitely NAA
 
I just realised it's posted by OP. I thought it was a different user basically going "I have the same issue"
 
9:06 AM
@VLAZ It's still NAA. it's a followup question which should have been a comment to the answer or another question entirely
 
@Adriaan yes, why not?
 
@rene because it's a technically correct answer
 
@Adriaan I think SO is less tolerant to answers that come years later and offer little. We do have the entire Late Answers queue.
There is also the popup that warns you to check existing answers before adding a potentially duplicate one. It shows up if there are already many answers (not sure on the threshold).
So, technically correct is not always the best kind of correct.
 
user12867493
Is there any way to indicate a CV request as 'dead'? i.e. it no longer needs a CV
 
@Daniil ping a RO to move it
 
9:21 AM
@Daniil it's closed or doesn't need closing any more?
 
user12867493
@VLAZ Doesn't need closing any more
 
Yeah, ping a RO, like Adriaan said.
 
user12867493
@Daniil @rene no longer needs a CV, can you move it please?
 
Is it a CommonMark bug that a code-fence like with c as the language (after the three backticks) gives syntax highlighting (colours) but c++ doesn't. Or am I being dumb?
 
9:38 AM
@AdrianMole isn't it cpp rather than c++?
 
@Adriaan I'll try that, thanks, But c++ has been working for me up until today (and my old posts still show correctly).
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null on request
 
@Adriaan Yep! cpp works. Now I just have to remember that. :)
 
Spin-off on the last SD report? stackoverflow.com/a/62531345/5468463
@VadimKotov It looks like IQ test question. Should be because SO has good reputation on having high IQ community :)
 
Oh, I might bring that average down a bit ... I'm sorry ...
 
9:54 AM
@VadimKotov I think the answer is 8. The logic seems to be: third column contains overlapping lines from first and second column.
 
10:07 AM
@desertnaut I was just about to ask whether you had a Greek keyboard ;)
 
@Adriaan Yep. it was an accident - corrected now ;)
 
@rene That gave us an instant elevation of the average :)
 
:D
 
10:34 AM
Is it possible to get an RSS feed for a custom filter?
 
@rene I just did (I was looking at MSO before). I was trying to get /feeds/tagged<customfilter>but turns out it's /feeds/tag<customfilter. However, now I'm getting a 413 Request Entity Too Large. I guess my custom filter just has too many tags.
Seems like you can get a feed for only 20 tags. I had 24.
 
 
user12867493
I think so
 
@Vega unsure; as it's a first attempt I'd go close and 20k delete. If there comes a second offence, flag as spam.
 
Ok, thank you :)
 
Sam slammed the Spam.
 
Anyone here can help me test something out? Type "what is my candidate score" in my election test room
 
user12867493
11:23 AM
Sure
 
@SamuelLiew It works!
 
thanks!
 
... but it didn't give me the full 40, so maybe not? ;-)
 
@Dharman what you might add to the comment you left on the answer is that if that link is to another SO post, they should flag as dupe, not elaborate (by e.g. copying the entire answer)
 
11:30 AM
@Adriaan I disagree. They can't do it. The only thing they can do on the site at the moment is to leave an answer. They can't comment or flag
 
user12867493
@SamuelLiew Since you're a mod here, is the number of flags quite overwhelming or not really?
 
it depends. the custom flag queue takes the most effort to process so there's always going to be a backlog unless we get 10 more mods
 
@Dharman mhm, good point in that they can't flag or comment. Still, your comment suggests that they can make it an acceptable answer by adding text, which I don't agree with. If the linked answer is the answer, then it's a dupe.
 
user12867493
@SamuelLiew Why not get 10 more mods?
 
Simple solution, get rid of the comment
 
11:35 AM
@Daniil because we can't train 10 new mods at the same time
 
user12867493
@SamuelLiew True, but how long does it take to train 2 mods? Surely less than a year (the time between elections)
 
12:12 PM
Morning
 
hey
 
@NathanOliver Some 4-star C code for you: stackoverflow.com/q/62533960/10871073
 
@desertnaut sorry did you just get kicked? I'm not exactly sure but I think that's what happens when you mod flag your own message for deletion
 
@AdrianMole Wow, they do exist ;)
 
@SamuelLiew what do you mean "kicked"?
I'm alive and kicking! :)
 
12:16 PM
oh disregard then. I think it only applies to spam flags :)
 
@desertnaut Was there a Rule Number 29 Violation?
 
@AdrianMole guilty as charged... apologies :(
 
We don't want our Moderators getting confused, now, do we?
 
@AdrianMole (rep) guilty as charged, apologies
@AdrianMole any other corrective action required from my part?
 
Good to go!
 
12:31 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I gave an NLN and an "Unfriendly" on (two different) comments there.
 
user12867493
@Machavity Downvote the answer and it will Roomba :)
 
@Daniil We typically don't ask people to upvote or downvote here (so that we don't look like a voting mob).
 
Downvotes cost points; delete votes are free!
 
12:38 PM
@Adriaan Yeah. Should we retract the flags or rollback the edit? Or just wait?
^ Seems like they responded to the comment from @Machavity.
 
@AdrianMole retract if you see fit, don't roll back. User responded to a comment and removed the spam themselves.
 
I retracted my red flag
 
^ +1
 
Actually I misread the edit. It's now a different answer from previous
 
Does this answer make any sense to anyone? I tried Google translate but it said it was "watermelon sint dart rectangular square" in Lithuanian...
 
12:47 PM
@DavidBuck Nope, but closing + deleting the question would do for me.
 
@DavidBuck voted to delete.
 
That'll do the trick
 
1:06 PM
Would someone be so kind as to alert Smokey to this spammer/website?
 
2:18 PM
Folks, how can this be an answer? Shouldn't it be a comment?
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Sure! Should be flagged IMO
 
@AlonEitan 👍🏻
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman maybe it is better as a possible duplicate suggestion. but the OP already dismised that so it is not useful to try that now.
 
2:39 PM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Del voted
 
@rene I did a dupe vote on question.
@Machavity Super.
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman OP changed their answer and I don't know if the flag is still relevant FYI
 
What is the etiquette around moving my own answer from one question to another? My plan was to copy the content from question A, paste it as an answer to question B, delete answer A. The original answer doesn't have any votes or comments on it. I just found a question that seems to be a better fit for the answer.
 
Should this be closed No Repro? OP seems to have changed libraries so I doubt this would ever be answerable. stackoverflow.com/questions/60126906/…
 
3:02 PM
@DavidBuck seems reasonable but not an domain expert so will not vote
 
3:42 PM
This comment is by a 1 rep user. According to this it's possible, except I don't see any clause applying for this user. I am kind of curious to understand if this is a bug? ROs if you consider this as user targeting, please remove this
 
@Vega maybe answer converted to comment?
 
Zoe
@VLAZ No; no deleted posts, no timeline entries
 
The answer is still there, no answer deleted
 
3:47 PM
Wait, you're right. The answer even starts with "Accidentally posted this in the comments instead of the thread..."
 
I think it's only possible for 1-rep users to post comments if they do so accidentally.
 
dbc
Is this not an answer, a wrong answer, or what? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/26485493 The question is, Linux: remove file extensions for multiple files. The answer shows a way of finding and iterating through a filtered sequence of files ... and deleting them.
 
Zoe
Ohhh, I think it might've been automatic conversion
If you post a short enough answer containing a link, the system some times converts it to a comment on the question, even if it's posted as an answer.
No answer will have been posted in that case, so it doesn't have the same effect as mod conversion
 
Ooh, should be that! And then the user got confused and posted the answer
 
Zoe
Exactly
 
3:50 PM
@Zoe So my flippant remark is actually true?
 
@Zoe Thank you, mystery solved :)
@AdrianMole :D
 
I should start making flippant remarks about people upvoting my posts. {goes away and waits for green bubbles to appear}
 
Zoe
@AdrianMole Kinda sorta, yeah ^^"
 
Regarding the post with spam, the link is to their Youtube chanel, also seen in the profile
 
@dbc no, it is an answer to the question How do I delete files. So it is an answer. On that specific question the answer is not useful, even dangerous. It should be commented and voted on, probably the down and delete variants of voting.
 
3:56 PM
@Vega Do you know what happens to spam flags when the OP deletes the post? I have one on the one you just mentioned, which OP has now deleted. (I seem to remember that "some hapless mod" still has to deal with it, but not sure.)
 
A happy Cody enters the flag queue and goes to work. Gets utterly disappointed that flags are still there for deleted posts. To make a point he clicks buttons, suspending a user ...
6
 
@rene The Little Diamond That Could
 
@AdrianMole I found only this one meta.stackexchange.com/q/149278/704698
 
@rene Funny how you so quickly associated "hapless" with a particular mod, huh?
 
I guess it will be disputed?
@AdrianMole Or declined, because the user was responsive. <s>I will remove mine</s> cannot?
 
4:04 PM
Same here! Cannot retract, so we'll just have to feed the hapless.
 
Sorry :( I cross my fingers it will be disputed
 
You'll need three --- for strikethrough in chat.
 
Yes, I understood, but tried to not triple ping you :/
 
@VLAZ Yep. That's the right way to do it.
 
@Makyen Much appreciated.
 
4:12 PM
np
 
4:26 PM
@AdrianMole Helpful? :D
 
Must've been Bhargav or Sam that handled it, then. :-)
 
4:43 PM
It looks like a lot of people confuse comments, voting and closing with each other. This is what I feel after reading the answers under my meta post
 
Can I vote to close a comment?
 
Sure, but please also downvote
 
dbc
@AdrianMole You can flag it as "No longer needed." I do that sometimes for comments asking for a MCVE after the OP edited their post and added the required MCVE.
 
After so many answers I still don't see any good solution.
 
I can't find the thumbs down button. Is it next to the "Pray for this post" button?
 
4:46 PM
@Dharman But, seriously, I think your Meta post has done a really good job, in the sense that it has provided a forum for folks to express their understanding of, and opinions about, downvoting (and comments and close/delete votes).
@Machavity It is the "Pray" button - you just need to invert your monitor.
 
When I posted it I was expecting mostly downvotes. I was surprised that people liked the idea and it got featured. Despite the fact I knew I could get downvoted I wasn't afraid of it. If people don't find it useful, so what?
 
I've tried that, but my keyboard is hard to use in that position
 
@Dharman You did just a great job on that Meta about downvoting that I downvoted it
 
I think the problem with voting stems from people not understanding how to use votes
 
As Tony Blair (bless) once said: "Education, education, education!"
 
4:49 PM
That's three times
 
If I was forced to post a mandatory comment after downvoting I would have a pre-made comment saying: "Thanks, but I don't like this post"
 
He once said "education" three times. Or did he say "education" three times, once?
 
How do I downvote a blog post?
 
You can't.
If you would like to share your dislike of it, you have to use a comment
 
4:51 PM
Your telling me the truth is unwelcoming to me.
 
Often in comments two ideas stand out 1.others downvote because they don't know the answer 2. They know the answer but think it's to easy
Both seem to me absurd
 
What are people of color?
How can I know if a user is colorful?
What does that even mean to be of color?
 
non-white
or rather, non-caucasian-white
 
@Dharman You seem very colourful.
4
 
Can you tell my ethnicity based on what you read in my answers?
 
4:57 PM
We can tell from your avatar. Anything but a face = probably a minority, paranoid, or lacks a webcam.
 
the last one
 
fair point
 
@Vega yes, unfortunately people believe such fallacies, and other similar ones: I was engaged in a comments discussion today with a user whose question we had just closed, and they were explicitly convinced that we did have the answer to their question, but preferred to close the question because of the rules... :(
 
@Vega I sometimes downvote if the answer is easy. Not easy to me specifically but something that really should have been covered before. For example, the problem is that the user didn't use a very basic loop correctly.
@Dharman You're clearly non-white. You have a lot of green but also some orange, purple, and blue in you.
 
it's called "no research" and it's a valid downvote reason.
 
5:03 PM
@VLAZ I think they insinuate that the 'experts' are too arrogant to take time to 'give the code'
@JohnDvorak Yes, clearly
 
@Vega isn't it true though, in a technical kind of sense?
 
Might be, but do they downvote for that?
 
Well technically... yes?
 
Hahaha, I can speak only for myself...
 
@Vega received just now! "Ahh the arrogance of the "gatekeepers", how refreshing."...
 
5:15 PM
@Vega That I am. Why else would I spend time around here except to hoard all the code to myself? My goal in life is to stop others from achieving their true potential. My weapons are: not writing their for loops; not fixing their syntax errors; not fulfilling their work orders;
Very soon, there would be no other developers but me in the world and then I will reign supreme.
 
5:33 PM
 
^ Both.
 
Zoe
@Machavity "We’ve struggled to put our money where our less than three was."
 
@desertnaut sigh
 
Yes
 
Ok, thank you :)
 
5:37 PM
@Dharman I was thinking a little while ago of creating a bunch of 'clones' of my avatar, each with a different skin colour, then changing the active one from time to time (as E_net4... does with their name). But then I thought that could be perceived as "non-PC" by the control freaks. So I skipped.
 
@VLAZ That is a good plan, but now that every one knows how to, it's compromised ;)
 
You would look good with green skin.
 
Avatars should be blue
 
Ha! I should've added: "excluding my actual skin colour..." (which is turquoise).
 
@Vega Oh no, my plan was foiled! I would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those meddling kids!
 
5:46 PM
Morning all /o
 
o/
 
@AdrianMole You just need to have an avatar that appears as different colours to different people. So, nobody would be able to agree what colour the avatar actually is.
 
M--
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null on request
 
M--
thanks rene 🙏 #reactions
 
6:16 PM
It totally needs English, too
 
@NathanOliver I knew that, actually! But the OP seems to ask what's the point of the function to get the pointer's underlying pointer.
 
24 hours ago, by NathanOliver
@Dharman FWIW, you can use unclear instead of a custom close reason for non-English posts.
 
I'm referring to the unintended implication that the question doesn't need English.
 
@AdrianMole Okay. Wasn't sure if you were actually asking or using that as a hint to add more to the answer.
 
hehe - I was being cryptic.
 
@VLAZ Does StackOverflow support APNG avatars? :thinking: (I hope not, that would be a terrible idea)
(but if they did, you could use that to make it appear different colors to different people)
 
@RyanM Or maybe just put on a dress
 
@VLAZ of course that has a long Wikipedia article...
 
6:57 PM
Hello, I'm posting here (for the first time) because I would like to draw attention to a user and their posts which I think are spam. I already flagged one of their posts but the flag is still pending. Is it okay to post a link to this user's profile?
This is the original description of the custom flag I raised:
"I would flag this as spam outright, but at a first glance this post might seem not fitting the description "Exists only to promote a product or service, does not disclose the author's affiliation.." However by looking at the history of this user we see: profile active since ~50 days, almost all their answers (I didn't check every single one of them) link in some shape or form to the same Medium blog post."
 
@blackgreen Hi, welcome! You'll probably want to look at socvr.org/faq#GEfM-what-room-moderates, socvr.org/faq#GEfM-moderate-post-not-user (and the point immediately below it)
 
@blackgreen Welcome to SOCVR. We don't link to user profiles because we have a strict no-targeting rule. You can, however, discuss users in Charcoal
 
I understand. Is Charcoal the right place to draw attention to this kind of thing? Is there anything else I can reasonably do?
 
@blackgreen Charcoal is an antispam project, so it's absolutely the right place
 
@Machavity thank you, I'll go take a look
 
7:45 PM
@Dharman @mickmackusa I surrender! After this I'll just delete/downvote whatever either of you ask.
^ I meant "close" not "downvote" (obviously).
 
@AdrianMole These titles kill me. Every time there's a question that could maaaaaybe have future value, any chance of anyone ever finding it is destroyed by a title that no one will ever find when searching for the problem.
 
What rattles my cage the most is that the answers (from high-rep users) prevent the OP from deleting their downvoted question.
 
I edited the title to make the question less terrible/more findable
IMHO the question is ...a little silly, but could maybe have future value
It's been suggested that it's a common question, but no one has voted to close as a dupe
 
The question does have potential value. But it needs a major edit from a high-rep user! Not cheap answers.
Maybe I'm turning into one of the toxic establishment; but I see the same (few) users doing this in my followed tags. Time and time and time again.
 
The top answer is, in my opinion, well-explained. The second one is kinda cheap and I have no earthly idea why two people upvoted it after seeing the better answer.
 
8:00 PM
Folks like that (good) answerer should first take the time and trouble to edit the question, or ask for clarification (in comments) before going on the reputation hunt.
^ At least, that's what I was trying to do.
 
Yeah, I always try to improve questions I answer
 
8:33 PM
@AdrianMole if you find that the question may have potential value you can always edit it and try to realize that potential.
 
@anastaciu Yes, of course, That was my intention. But I think the FGITW answers (no offence, BTW, just saying) to this question have now made that unfeasible.
There is potentially far more to the question than either your or the other answer have fully addressed. It could be made into a monster and, if I can get my 'Muse' into gear, I may still go for it.
 
@AdrianMole Why? What's wrong with the question? Is it too basic?
 
It's unclear! Very unclear! See my latest comment (on the question).
There are so many possible reasons why the OP didn't understand how/why the output is what it is.
 
I'm pretty sure the now-edited title is not what the OP meant...
 
Heh! And now there's an edit war between the two answerers! Oh, joy! I'm turning into a toxic old young man.
 
8:42 PM
which does perhaps lend credence to the "unclear" argument
 
The question is very simple, why does the remainder of dividing a character by itself produce result of 0. Why would anyone ask this question I do not know.
 
@AdrianMole oh my, I missed that. well, I tried.
 
Well, I could do with a few weeks' suspension holiday.
 
@Dharman I think they were trying to print %'%'% or something like that. At the very least, I highly doubt they meant to use the % as an operator
 
@Dharman Use of the % character in any post that also has printf in its title (pre-edit) should ring bells.
 
8:44 PM
Then why would they use %d?
 
oh, hmmmm...I shouldn't read questions in languages I don't use much before lunch.
that's a great question. I don't know.
 
I don't know. That's my point. If they want to print a string, why use %d. Unclear
 
They clearly expected a mathematical operation to happen
 
The OP knows about the modulo part of the question, he stated as much in a comment to my answer.
 
They performed a mathematical division.
 
8:45 PM
You may, in fact, be correct. In which case I'm now extremely confused...and yeah, I think I concur a bit more now.
 
You see - they expect a character string output.
 
I believe the confusion was about its usage with characters
 
One thing for sure we need a mod to purge all comments
 
Though the use of a different character would be more appropriate
 
but they also said "i didn't figure out that we make operation between two chars" so they also clearly didn't understand that it was being applied to the characters...so yeah, I'm quite confused what they were trying to do.
 
8:47 PM
@anastaciu I'm not going to chase the case, here! But, in future, maybe just consider asking for clarity before posting an answer. It helps us here a lot with the clean-up jobs.
 
Also, I think someone said that if you want to continue discussion from a question then create a fresh room. Don't invite the discussion to SOCVR where it could explode
 
@Dharman Roger that! I did suggest that in one of my comments (after I calmed down a bit).
But not all explosion are bad?
 
@Dharman I flagged several as NLN, hopefully the mods will see that the rest need a sweep-up
 
I'll do a personal clean-up of many of mine.
 
My opinion. Let's close the question as unclear and clean up all comments. Then we can ask a simple comment to the OP to provide what output they expect and why. If OP comes back then we can edit the question and salvage it. If not then we delete it after few days
 
8:53 PM
@AdrianMole, understood, I agree with your FGITW remark, it is a problem, I just felt that in this case it was a straight forward question, I didnt consider all the nuances of the question.
 
@anastaciu I understand (I've done it myself). But, on SO, somethings can be undone.
You can't see how many deleted answers I have. But, please believe me, there a lot!
@Dharman From that remark, I determine that you are ethnically sensible.
 
I expect it will be reopened soon by another C experts. The questions in itself is not bad, it was a little unclear as to what OP actually expected to happen
 
There is no C expert on SO that will lightly mess with the Mighty Finn!
 
Now after the edits the question looks much better. dbush and @anastaciu did a really good job with the edits to the question.
 
@Dharman I disagree. I think the printf involvement may be an issue.
 
9:07 PM
Why do you say that?
 
Because I have yet to receive a reply to my comment-question about it.
That's what "unclear" means, is not?
 
Which % are you unsure about? There are 4 of them
If you forget about the printf and only look at the title, the question is quite clear
 
But if you forget about the title, what does the question mean. printf and % have an inherent and strong connexion. This cannot be ignored. I think we should rollback to the original, for now, and await clarification from the OP.
... need to go to the shop; back in ~20 mins.
 
@AdrianMole, judging by the comments in the answers the OP cleared the doubts and moved on.
 
Then it's a poor question! Reduces to: "Why is x % x zero?"
 
9:15 PM
No. I think the edits by the people who answered are correct based on what OP said in the scattered comments. % is important when used inside the format string, but OP is clearly asking about the part '%'%'%' which can be asked about even without printf. They only used printf to display the integer value
Sure the question might be poor, but as some comments say it is a basic knowledge that people completely new to programming might not know
 
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@NathanOliver I don't know, I'm not seeing why this one should be closed. It was clear what was wrong, had all the necessary information, and included an error message.
 
@AdrianMole, yes, it's basically it, I believe the use of '%' as operand was also confusing the OP.
 
@Chipster it's going to be almost impossible for others to find it that have the same issue and is essentially a typo since they use the wrong command. To me that's enough for it to qualify. Fell free to request a reopen vote if it does get closed.
 
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@NathanOliver Alright. I'll think about it. Good point about others finding it.
 
9:34 PM
@Dharman 2 reopen votes votes already! And it looks like there's been some comment-cleaning going on.
 
@AdrianMole Yay! Now it looks much cleaner. Mediocre question, but few people found it useful.
Also I am out of comment flags for today.
 
Out of flags? Huh - that's a surprise.
 
@AdrianMole interestingly, my NLN flag on this comment was declined
 
Not unreasonable. It's a good comment, even if a bit odd without the one I made that prompted it.
... and Eric is very cool-headed and a great contributor.
 
@RyanM It's the one I didn't flag.
 
9:48 PM
@RyanM, that's because you DO NOT delete Eric Postpischil's comments, lol.
 
Yeah, I don't contest the fact it's a good comment, I agree :-)
I'm not familiar with Eric since I don't frequent the tag, but I found it thoughtful...I just thought that it had made its point and was now no longer relevant (especially since Adrian deleted the comment it responded to)
 
The mod probably left it there as a 'hint' against further abrasive comments.
 
@RyanM, I was just joking but in reality he does post good comments, and yes, it does seem a bit out of place given that it's a response, good comment though.
 
@anastaciu Also, maybe take a look at my comment about character encoding as opposed to the representation of character constants in the other answer.
 
@anastaciu I definitely got the joke, chuckling and a grin is hard to convey in text though :-p
 
9:52 PM
dbush did say it is an integer not a char. I think anastaciu also said it is an integer at some point
 
@Dharman, yes I did, it faded away with the edits, I gess I'll use Adrian good comment.
@AdrianMole, if you don't mind.
 
@anastaciu I'm really not trying to punish or insult you in any way. However, you are fast approaching the 'magic' 10K level, so you should be prepared for some 'heavy critique'. (Lord knows, I had my share of it, and well-deserved, too!)
 
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