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12:02 AM
 
12:16 AM
@NathanOliver @Machavity @JohnDvorak Meg replied to me on the blog: "Yes, current plan is that there will be a variant for users with the close/reopen voting privilege which shows user names."
(pinged everyone I think was talking about the post)
 
12:50 AM
@TylerH I was gonna suggest a priv if they didn't suggest one themselves
 
 
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3:36 AM
waffles
 
...with maple syrup
yum
 
Serves two portions of waffles with a double maple syrup
 
 
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@RobertColumbia Plz email me teh wafflez
 
 
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6:07 AM
 
6:21 AM
Can a RO (@rene) thrash the above message? It was supposed to be delv-pls, sorry
 
How about teaching SD making waffles? :)
 
6:37 AM
@Vega its code is on GitHib ... you can submit waffles a PR there ...
 
7:00 AM
@jps I gave that an edit so at least it no longer is an off-site resource request
 
@rene Noted! :)
 
Morning o/
early morning at that -.-
 
jps
7:19 AM
@rene thanks, a little eimprovement, though it's still a quite confusing and unclear question which attracted already an LQ answer :(
 
@NickA that's an answer
 
Is metasmoke down for everyone else?
 
@Adriaan ta fixed
 
@MichaelDodd yes
 
@Selaron Ah shame, needed to see the domain history on that last report before I could decide
 
7:26 AM
@MichaelDodd n := not an answer?
 
@Selaron yeah
k = true positive
f = false positive
n = not an answer
v = vandalism
 
thank you
 
Ah here we go, back up
 
Post not found for stackoverflow/57586467. It may have been reported during a period of metasmoke downtime. :'(
 
@Selaron Was just a link only answer
 
7:44 AM
\o
 
Where do you find that big history?
 
@Selaron click the "MS" link to the left of the report, then click on the domain from the report page, for example from that last SD report
Can be a big help when an answer looks otherwise legit
 
8:32 AM
@PatrickHofman hey, don't set us up against SE staff ;)
 
@rene That was not intentional ;)
 
 
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10:40 AM
@halfer I have edited the nginx question, have a look and if you have time improve the english (mine su**s). I think that it's on-topic (since self-answered not too broad nor is a bad attempt needed + it's about programming, configuring nginx etc) and most important it is useful for other programmers. (cc @Makyen)
 
@PetterFriberg So quick! It looks like :)
 
@Vega If you (or anyone else here) is able, that tag needs a tag wiki
I've never heard of it - I'm still using glue41
 
and I'm stuck with Bostik
 
I'm still using Pritt Stick
 
12:16 PM
this was informally suggested as a dupe of a Q we just closed as GC - is also GC? stackoverflow.com/q/26647412/397817
 
I'd think so, but being a dupe target doesn't make something active IIRC
 
Morning
 
o/
 
@NickA Could probably wave it through as "used to justify other posts that are off-topic and/or low-quality" but I'm more interested in opinions - with only 3 CVs needed the queue might actually close it
\o
 
Well, have 1 on the house
 
12:20 PM
ty. back to fighting evil (WCF) :(
 
I kind of stay away from these posts, since there will always be arguments and maybe even SE staff will interviene, better to target low hanging fruits (there are millions) so that we can keep "our nice toys". When they did 3cv test on programmers more or less it "falid" because people closed old posts that where popular.
 
@PetterFriberg Interesting. Is there any post-mortem Q&A or blog entry on why it was considered a failure over there?
 
@StephenKennedy No, I had to google Glue42 is our transformative UX integration software that enables developers to connect any group of applications.
 
@StephenKennedy Yeah softwareengineering.meta.stackexchange.com/a/7734/227993 see also other answers.
 
thanks, will have a read later
 
12:31 PM
@StephenKennedy also in comments lots of discussion about old popular posts being closed (and as you can immagine there is strong different feelings about'em).. Overall if you close the obvious ones, all the crap that is arriving (reopening the ones that have been edited to be okish) I think this test will be a success. If many old popular posts gets closed we will get alot of various dicussions... and SE (which have a more lenient view) may will prefeer to keep 5cv
 
@PetterFriberg Good info, starred it - I'm sure we all want to do our bit to make 3CV a success. Thanks!
 
12:47 PM
@MichaelDodd really "too broad"?, it needs to have a dupe
 
@PetterFriberg Falls under "give me the code" for me, i.e. no prior research. gets an absolute ton of low-quality "how do I make this design?" questions that don't show any prior effort whatsoever
 
@PetterFriberg how about this
 
@NickA looks ideal
And this one (which was also closed as TB)
And another. Take your pick.
There doesn't really seem to be a canonical in this case
 
@MichaelDodd baah I'm of other view... "How to do a border ..." seems like an on-topic question (not too broad, nor does it need attempt), then I agree not much research (dv) and I had no doubt that there where tons of dups.
 
@PetterFriberg It's far too common an occurrence in , thus the avalanche of downvotes
 
12:54 PM
how weird, having similar debate in , so I'll throw my hat into the ring (go easy on me, still an SO scrub :p): personally I think codeless questions that request how-to* is off-topic, it may be specific, but they made no clear code-attempt/research-effort. It turns SO into a coding-service, which we are not - however, these types of questions could be on-topic with OP effort
 
@MichaelDodd dv are ok ;), I'm just nit picking on the close reason :)
 
Ah there we are, Nilesh found the canonical :)
 
Zoe
@PetterFriberg "How to" questions can be on-topic depending on the scope. There's a massive difference between for an instance this and "please give me all app codes kthx"
 
@treyBake Yes but, "What is the built in function to do _ in language" isn't off topic
 
12:56 PM
@treyBake This is where I disagree, forcing code into questions makes SO become a debug my code site.. Generally "How to" according to me are the best question for SO, then true if already asked 1000 times it should be dv for lack of research, put still the close reason is dupe... and then let it roomba.
@Zoe all the app codes.. can be too broad, but in that case it was just a titled border... so according to me we need 1 good canonical (without any bad attempt, debug this crap in question), then a good dupes so people searching can find it.
 
@NickA isn't it? o.O I feel like questions like that should be .. feels like a lack of research? I don't know :p haha
 
@treyBake Lack of research isn't a close reason
You can DV all you want though
 
@PetterFriberg And ideally better search to find that canonical, but that's never going to happen. I didn't see the one Nilesh found at all in my results
 
so you need more dupes :D, stop closing as too broad ;)
 
@PetterFriberg you mean like this? Was a common issue in MATLAB, and after seeing three questions boiling down to this within three days I decided to write a canonical Q/A
 
1:01 PM
Something like this one I wouldn't close. There's no code but OP has shown some prior research and attempts.
 
@Adriaan yeah and the close a few 3-10 towards that editing with different titles, if still dupes close as dupe but dv (lack of research) so they roomba... if people post answer (no roomba) and question is bad delv'em
 
@PetterFriberg A good point! :) though, I thought SO was trying to move away from those historic-style one-liner questions? Surely, that makes stuff like "How do I code a CMS?" on-topic if they included enough detail?
@NickA huh, I thought it was under the no MVCE label, but you're right! I've been living a lie! :o
 
@treyBake This is why nobody acts on your s ;)
 
@NickA damn, I thought it was just because they're all for xD
 
@treyBake "How do I code a CMS?" is obviouly too broad, while according to me "How do I create a titled border on a text field in android" is not. SO moving away.. yes currently there is a stream of people closing voting if there is no code... but according to me this is a problem because we turn the site into a debug my code site, that is pretty useless for future users.
 
1:08 PM
@PetterFriberg But I don't see why when both could be done in various distinct ways? (maybe not the case for that specific Q - but more broadly speaking) and you say that, but the parse syntax error questions in php etc. etc. all get linked to a dupe that's probably going to be used for a long time still
 
maybe it's a case-by-case thing? No one blanket rule to rule them all type deal? Some tags may find it more beneficial to have the how-to style, others not.. not really sure :S Is a meta post worth posting? Clarity on closures and the overall goal of SO would be good - is it meant to be used as a dev-wiki where how-to makes sense to be on-topic? Or is it still doing support-style questions? Or both?! xD
 
@treyBake I can not really parse that :) ... anyway sure closing debug questions to general canonical is perfect (Nullpointer etc), I'm just saying we need that general "Why do I get nullpointer" question... the rest is just links to that and most of it should get deleted.
@treyBake There are already tons of meta on it... my reasoning is mostly what would I like to find on SO, what is useful for others.. If I need to do a title border, I will do a quick search, it would be nice to find a canonical with good answer, I don't care crap about bad attempts and I debug my code my self.
 
@treyBake how-to is definitely not off-topic. Everything is essentially a 'how to' question if you think about it. What varies is whether it's clear, specific, and answerable, and how much effort OP put into it. If it's not clear, not specific, or not answerable (e.g. opinion-based), it can be closed for those reasons. If OP hasn't put much effort into it, then it should be downvoted, but it could still be answered.
ew, they adjusted the font on the question pages
not sure how it's different though; I can only tell that it is
 
1:27 PM
OK, thank you :) I guess that makes sense, I will use this info and pave the way to mod (maybe one day xD)! :)
 
1:53 PM
@treyBake a worthy goal indeed
 
@TylerH this time next year I'll be a mod-retaire
 
that'll be quite the feat
 
haha yeah, if that were to happen I think I'd have to celebrate in the most extravagant way possible, think for now I'll just focus on that sweet PHP hammer
 
2:12 PM
@MunimMunna I'm binning this request as it runs afoul of our needs recent activity rule.
 
@NathanOliver Okk
 
2:26 PM
SO is offline?
 
> Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance
 
would seem that wa
my guess, missing ; XD
 
Back up for me
 
@Adriaan Not their first strike. Two NAAs from 5 months ago which were little more than links to their own blog. MS history for domain
THey should know by now
 
2:40 PM
Thanks both, makes sense
 
I've gone with a DV rather than a flag for now.
@Adriaan @TylerH Disclosure added by OP
 
@MichaelDodd Thanks; flag retracted
 
cc @double-beep ^
 
@MichaelDodd I didn't flag the post, but send tp- feedback, which means "single case of undisclosed affiliation"
 
@double-beep Ah fair enough, pinged you just in case
 
2:54 PM
thanks, anyway :)
 
3:04 PM
@Adriaan I almost think a historical lock would be better there. Looks like there is a lot of doo information and it gets about 4K visits per year
 
@NathanOliver makes sense, I'll retract my vote. Can you trash this + modflag?
 
Oh wait, you can't retract delete votes....
 
no worries. If it gets locked it wont matter
Mod flag in
 
3:45 PM
(p.s is no MVCE = why isn't this code working?)
 
3:57 PM
@AmitJoshi "How to question", are you sure it's too broad?, is it to complex to answer in the answer box, it does not need code since not debug question. If already answered lets dupe it.
 
4:14 PM
@PetterFriberg While I strongly agree that well scoped how-to questions are on-topic, that one really sounds too broad to me, and it includes what I read as a resource request (i.e. "using python or any tiff to DICOM converter"). It really isn't looking for a programming solution, they are looking more for just a solution, including general computing. As to too broad, that can be broken down into many separate questions ("how to read a file", "how to write a file", etc.).
@Makyen Maybe it would be OK with an edit that doesn't leave the question open to general computing answers.
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@SmokeDetector I've mod flagged as the user looks to have another accout and trying to subvert a ban.
 
4:57 PM
@Makyen I'm on quest to have more "How to" and less debug. :), I have no clue if actually too broad it depends how hard it is in python,. Can you fit an answer in answer box...
Overall if you can fit a good answer using python stuff and it's not a dupe it seems like a useful question
 
@PetterFriberg I can understand your quest and I'm certainly for it. How-to questions are some of the best questions we get on SO. They are certainly more useful than most "debug my code" questions. Frankly, I'm unsure if a question that is strictly "how to do [the above thing]" in Python is too broad and didn't vote to close. However, as it's currently written, it sounded to me like they are looking for a Python solution, or any solution, even if it's general computing.
 
5:20 PM
@Makyen They solved the problem with a link to GitHub... But yeah I got no clue since not a python guy
 
 
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I was trying to add that would ...
 
6:52 PM
Question, does the inbox play a notification noise like a ping in chat does?
 
I've never heard one
 
Nor have I, so I'm wondering why I just heard the ping noise
 
someone ping you in another room you are in?
 
Nope hmm emoji
 
Just try to ignore the noises in your head
I can sell you an aluminum foil hat that should stop the sound from happening again
 
7:00 PM
just one of many useful items in the official SOCVR Shop
 
Well I rewatched the 15min YT video I just watched to make sure that the sound didn't come from that
I've come to the conclusion I'm insane
... I may accept that hat
 
@NickA maybe you installed my userscript: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250762/… ?
 
Nope, and I'm kinda glad I didn't lol
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8:24 PM
@StephenKennedy I'm still waiting on my blurry flower t-shirt. If we can't make the store work right, we should just close it...
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8:40 PM
@SmokeDetector Edited, but not sure if trolling
based on username
and some of the special characters shown
 
@SmokeDetector Went NAA, since it's not clear how that answers the question
 
.....be gone.
 
Lol, I thought that rule applied to things like "gone now" etc. but have never seen it used
 
It was popular once under certain species of RO's ...
 
the best sort?
 
all the best
 
 
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11:49 PM
I totally forgot I cv'd that yesterday
 

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