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12:13 AM
Is this answer a wholesale copy of the previous one?
 
@Machavity The first several lines are a copy, but it begins to diverge from about "But this also means that the".
 
12:28 AM
@Ron The middle booster of SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy rocket failed to land on its drone ship: "The center core was only able to re-light one of the three engines necessary to land, and so it hit the water at 300 miles per hour." "It’s a small hiccup in an otherwcxise [sic] successful first flight."
 
What a shame the video cut out before the impact
 
@JohnDvorak Yeah. Hopefully, at least some of the cameras also store the video locally (which would only be sensible, particularly given that they know they can loose communication). However, the drone ship was damaged (lost two engines).
 
12:44 AM
Hi all! o/
 
 
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6:36 AM
@FireAlarm unclear
 
Why unclear?
 
7:52 AM
@JohnDvorak bootstrap is a css framework.. detecting is generally using js..
 
Morning o/
 
8:14 AM
o/
 
@VadimKotov Sounds nice. Unfortunately, that site is timing out for me, and not pinging either.
 
@Paul Yeah, some kind of error on their site. It was working several days ago
 
8:34 AM
Lot of processed meat products about today:(
 
8:48 AM
@gunr2171 can you look into the status of socvr.org? It looks like either the dynamic IP changed or the cat ripped out the network cable. Take your pick.
 
9:09 AM
@JohnDvorak needs an edit reject
 
done
 
Funny that you can do that
 
@JohnDvorak Yeah it was the old system...
I'm doing a rollback, I hope I'm right
A PHP gold hammer, maybe could open and close hammer it, to get out the old community stuff that can be edited.
 
Zoe
9:26 AM
Anyone else having problems with the cv-pls userscript and Firefox with the Multi-account containers plugin? It tells me I'm logged out even though I'm not when I try to send a request
 
in PHP, 50 secs ago, by DaveRandom
@SurajRao done
 
Thanks, yeah next time better to just use that strategy
 
 
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@SurajRao That or too broad.
 
 
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12:36 PM
Must be stupid-question-day today.
 
Sam
 
Plop everyone
 
Sam
o/
 
@PetterFriberg well from the answer OP is not going to reddit either
 
We need mod or 20K users that OP is messing up chat transcript in SOBotics :D
 
@PetterFriberg banned
 
1:17 PM
Wowsers... someone got out the wrong side of the bed :p
 
Yeah at least that stops the comment feed :), I still think the question can be deleted... since suspension ends in 7 days and roomba is in 20 :D
Yeah I had like 10 pings in SOBotics :D
 
I like the changing their name, website and profile description to have a go as well - not many people do that :p
 
1:30 PM
@JonClements Oh, you're already after it. I just mod-flagged for the new location text.
 
haha... okay - marked that as helpful even if a little late - thanks :)
Although - either they can still change it or I didn't hit save - cos that wasn't the stuff I cleared out from it last time... or something odd.... might have to check that again in a bit
 
@JonClements Sorry, took me some time to dig through this; I'm a bit distracted by real life.
 
@Mogsdad Last active 5 year 7 months ago? That's a juuuussst a bit old for a cv-pls. :-) Is there some other non-obvious activity?
 
@Makyen question, part of the cleanup effort, aged out of cv queue.
Otherwise... wouldn't have been touched.
BTW... we have 0 questions with close votes on them! (for the time being... stay tuned!
 
Morning
 
2:22 PM
@JonClements not only him stackoverflow.com/q/48664906/5292302 :D, it's a bad day for internet today... probably a Monday problem
 
so problematic that it's 404
 
Yeah deleted, Monday is not good for SO :D
 
@kayess That is due to me clicking ...
 
We need to do a dashboard for Heat, it would be really interesting to see if Monday is a bad day also on SO.
 
@rene stop rene'ing that hard plz
 
2:44 PM
@SurajRao Great - the '[abuse] reddit[abuse] goes into my black museum, ready for the next 'SO is rude to beginners' meta post.
 
this shit is like fxxing reddit is the most offensive part of that post :D since we are so used to the cancer insults by now
 
Also because of 'This user has not asked or answered any questions', 'Member for 2 days', 'you guys can never help me'. Obviously has multiple accounts, almost certainly fraudulently used:(
 
3:03 PM
What can we close ths as, (other than it's PHP being PHP)? stackoverflow.com/q/48011078/758133
 
I finished a model kit owo
 
@Compass That wasn't a model kit, that was a Taco kit you made to look like the Space Shuttle
 
@Machavity lol, I susepct that it was my mention of PHP that triggered Compass to think of sticking odd bits toether with glue.
 
@Compass Is Space-Stig flashing a 'left turn' signal?
 
3:15 PM
Get your sass to Mahs.
 
3:26 PM
East coast weather :|
 
sucks
 
omg :|
this hiking trail looks terrifying :(
 
that's nothing compared to the one in china
 
That's not a hiking trail, that's an obstacle course with a steep failure penalty
 
Yeah the trail is closed today, someone fell on it :(
 
3:34 PM
@Compass was it @Adriaan - I imagine if he fell on something it'd cause a fair bit of damage :)
 
@rene, you know, right now it seems like "the cat ripped out the network cable" is more apt. That location has no internet. We're working on it.
also still working on the system to auto-update the IP when it changes
 
gently places down the hand-made lasso and waddles off
 
3:47 PM
@JonClements you still calling me fat?
 
No... just big trunked? err.... failing that - very pink?
 
@Adriaan Remember, Shog9 frowns upon sitting on mods
 
@Machavity it's okay - I've got barrels of beer - I think that'll save me!
 
@gunr2171 do we need to start a fund raiser for a dog?
 
maybe. too bad my friend is not good with animals
 
3:56 PM
We see how it goes. When we have money left we buy you a new friend as well ...
 
: )
put "girl-" at the start and I'll be happier and have lower morals
 
4:09 PM
@gunr2171 Man seeks girl for relationship. Must enjoy closing things and meetings. Send picture of your meeting-laden calendar
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4:20 PM
@rene should be back up
 
@rene he doesn't need any opponents with friends like us >:-)
 
""""friends"""" like you
 
you forgot: '`´˝
 
4:33 PM
@Compass has snow started for you yet?
 
is just water
loads of water
 
we've got small snowflakes right now, started an hour ago
 
I think that's what snow technically is though? :)
 
If only we had snow :(
small ponds and brooks are frozen though! Bring on the winter!
 
until you fall through
 
4:38 PM
@Adriaan ice skating time....
 
We had a inch of snow last night and about 2-3 inches the day before
 
Some farmers sprayed their fields with water all night, it's possible to skate on those
 
I booked a hotel in Franeker ...
 
@rene elfstedenkoorts?
@NathanOliver a RO messing up a cv-pls request, tsktsk ;)
 
@Adriaan It sil heve
 
4:43 PM
@Adriaan :p I think it looks just fine. I havent had a chance yet to install all the user scripts
 
@rene sorry, I'm not Frysian enough to understand any of that :D
@NathanOliver it does, but links to a comment
 
haha. I forgot I got back to the post via a comment alert and wasn't just sitting on the the question URL
 
Am I the only one who gets very nervous about the carousels here?
 
@rene Nope - got me growling at it... shall I bark at it to make it go away? :)
 
sure
 
4:47 PM
the site needs more carousels
you can never have enough
 
I guess that is the new <blink>
 
Ron
o/
 
o/
 
Ron
@Makyen Nice link / post. The todays interview prevented me to see the whole thing through yesterday.
Interview == waste of time.
@NathanOliver Double pointers and returning references to local pointers type of thing.
Need to answer some questions on SO to detox.
 
@Ron eww, double pointers
 
Ron
4:55 PM
@NathanOliver Right? And the position is called C++ engineer. Horrible.
And wired structs to spice things up. Boiling point :)
Felt like SO's most downvoted questions hidden camera.
 
@SmokeDetector I'm delete voting. The user does have a"good" controbution
 
user4639281
5:11 PM
Loaded up the pluralsight / Stack Overflow partners page and ghostery notified me of 38 blocked trackers
 
5:36 PM
@NathanOliver That user has a lot of "how to" questions. Looks like someone using us as cheapo tutorial site.
 
5:52 PM
IMO Negotiating rates and support contracts are awkward when Freelance
Their (customer) goal is to get as much work for the lowest price
Your goal: avoid getting screwed.
 
user4639281
Has anyone figured out how to actually get the pluralsight dev story integration working?
 
AKA Make dah moneyz
 
@TinyGiant did you enter your credit card details?
 
FYI Tim Post gave me an update on granting extra CVs for silver-badge holders meta.stackexchange.com/questions/240700/…
 
user4639281
@rene that's what I forgot. silly me.
 
5:58 PM
@TinyGiant make sure you have enough credit ...
 
user4639281
Nah, they are automatically going to owe money as soon as I enter it.
 
Is that an option I could have ticked?
 
user4639281
You acquire it over a long time of having horrible credit
 
I thought you just inherited it at birth.
 
user4639281
Well... having horrible credit is sometimes hereditary.
 
6:13 PM
The Tesla isn't going to orbit Mars anymore
it is apparently overshooting into the asteroid belt
 
Did the sat nav break? :)
 
user4639281
@Compass I wish we could get video of entry
 
they overburned
 
just an update about the internet
> alright so the connection may be intermittent today but I'm having a tech come and mess with the outside wiring tomorrow morning
> I'm concerned that the cable comming into the house is damaged
> fully reseting the modem "fixed" it, mostly
 
6:22 PM
@TinyGiant entry into what?
 
I'm having a tech come and mess with the outside wiring - always good to have a professional sort things :p
 
user4639281
@TylerH the asteroid belt
 
holy cow
 
@TinyGiant Ah. It wouldn't actually look any different from normal empty space; asteroids in the asteroid belt are not close together like Star Wars
 
well the asteroid belt isn't like... super traffic
the chance of actually hitting an asteroid is pretty low
 
6:23 PM
the average distance between asteroids is something like 1 million km
 
user4639281
Well here's hoping there a direct collision.
 
well I hope not
 
aha
 
I want the Tesla Roadster to become the farthest out human object in space
 
`physics.stackexchange.com/questions/26712/… based on this Physics.SE answer
 
6:24 PM
Maybe this is part of the plan - the car's actually got a little laser... it's going to fly into the middle of the asteroid belt... then splin round and round shooting them up into little pieces...? Sadly I don't think we'll get to hear the "pew-pew" sound effects though :(
 
beating Voyagers by a bit
 
the average distance between asteroids is approximately... 8x the distance from the earth to the moon
so...
if it hits an asteroid it will be a miracle
 
maybe a collision with the Roadster is just what Voyager 2 needs to become VGER in Star Trek
 
@JonClements Nah, it is going to challenge one of a drag-race ...
 
man, i thought the asteroid belt was busy
but apparently it's just a bunch of asteroids spread out :thonk:
 
6:26 PM
@Compass Busy doing what exactly? Holding up a massive pair of trousers? :p
 
@Compass as they say, "space is big"
 
SPACE TOO BIG.
Launch all the cars!
 
@TylerH queue Douglas Adams': "You won't believe how big..."
 
I just realized that Tesla is the first auto industry to have a market outside of earth owo
 
actually if we launched all our cars many of them would probably hit
we have like a billion cars
 
6:27 PM
Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.
 
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
 
user4639281
@Compass The first space invaders show up looking for more cars.
 
@TylerH Extreme clay pigeon shooting?
It could be a new movie idea as well... Instead of an asteroid about to destroy the earth and having to get some old guys to go up and plant nuclear weapons on it... we launch all the cars instead? :p
 
let's start with all the jacked up and oversized pickup trucks
and then the PT cruisers
and then we can decide that it's not a good idea and leave the rest of the cars here
 
user4639281
@TylerH Probably even more luck if you did a scatter shot approach and filled one capsule with a whole bunch of cars with a bomb near the back (bottom?) which explodes after reaching a given point.
 
6:31 PM
What is the stopping power of a Ford F250?
2
 
And if none of that worked, and we're really, really desperate - we launch all the tonka toys?
@Compass measured in asteroids? :)
 
yes
I heard they're built tough.
2
 
I reckon Carl Sagan would know... it'd just be rather tricky to ask him...
 
@Compass About 20 VW Golf. Or do you mean how good the brakes are? That would be 1/4 Golf.
 
7:37 PM
I am starting to get annoyed at Off-topic questions that get protected by bounties. It is like putting the bounty on it is expected to automagically make it on topic
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I've already got two pending mod flags 3+ days old on OT bounty questions. one already has 4 close votes.
Should I take this to Meta? or just let it go?
 
@TylerH I would not like extra cv, instead they should count more like if I got silver count it as 2 cv votes..
and after that give me rep if I suggest a dupe that OP accept
@Nkosi just let it go if already mod flaggex
 
the bounty on one is about to expire. And I just found another one so wanted to know if to bother to flag that one.
since it does not seem to be getting any mod attention
And i've found a few post on meta where they have been declined.
 
user4639281
7:57 PM
According to pluralsight, I'm an expert in JavaScript, HTML, and CSS. whodathunk?
 
@TinyGiant aren't we all?
 
8:07 PM
@PetterFriberg well ideally you would get both; dupe cvs count as 2 votes, and an additional 10 - 15 cvs in your tags of expertise
to go along with the whole 'give users the tools to keep their own communities clean' mantra
 
8:34 PM
@GrumpyCrouton Same time :)
@TinyGiant I've just made an account, can't wait to see what I'm an "expert" in
 
@JakeSymons Actually, my removed comment above is the same request - I deleted it because I had 2nd thoughts about it being opinion based, but then saw that first comment and was like "well if I'm not the only one that thinks so..."
 
8:46 PM
@TylerH Why just dup CV? That does not appear to be consistent with most of the proposals at the linked meta. I think it's reasonable to have silver badge user's CVs for other reasons count as two also, within that tag. They will certainly have a better idea what constitutes a MCVE within their tag than those without any experience in a particular language.
For example, for languages I don't know, I can evaluate a MCVE cv-pls to see it if A) has some code (that might be a MCVE); B) states the desired behavior; and C) states the specific problem or error. However, I'm often unable to evaluate if the code provided is actually enough for a MCVE, and thus have to skip voting. People with silver badges should be able to more accurately determine such issues across the spectrum of close-vote reasons.
 
@Makyen CVs counting as multiple for gold tag badge currently only works for duplicates
extending it to silver badge would mean the same implementation
it would make little sense to give silver badge holders more powers than gold badge holders, even if those powers are slightly less powerful
On an unrelated note, is anyone else seeing a lot of Kotlin audits in the CV queue lately?
 
Ron
I wonder if there should be a gangsta grill badge? Or the keepin` it real badge.
Tough audience.
Lack of sleep. Carry on.
 
9:02 PM
@Ron When keepin' it real goes wrong.
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Ron
@Nkosi Haha, indeed.
@Nkosi Trying to forget todays final job interview.
 
Check the c++ queue. problem solved. lol
 
Ron
Apparently I am stuck in some parallel universe where a C++ developer position always means C developer position.
 
If need something stronger check the PH......no.....wait.....things are not that bad. lol
some people have no clue what it is they want. They latch on to the common buzz word at the time and say yeah that's what I need
 
Ron
Seems there is no other way but go west. C++ development is non existent in SE Europe.
In my experience.
 
9:08 PM
^^That is why you do not mention it. I just hinted at it and one appears in the chat on cue. lol
 
;)
I was just waiting on someone to mention the PHP tag y'know...
 
Nooooooooooooooh!!!!!!!
 
9:21 PM
@TylerH Gold badge holders inherently hold a silver badge in any tag where they have gold. Thus, it's not giving more power to those who only have a silver. Any power which is granted to silver tag badge holders is automatically granted to gold badge holders, because they also hold a silver badge in that tag. Thus, there's nothing that implies giving more power to silver badge holders than gold badge holders. It's a spectrum of power that increases as you get the additional badge(s).
 
9:42 PM
/shrug
 
10:21 PM
@TylerH Oh please, getting rid of all the PT Cruisers from earth has to a priority. Such ugliness should be as far away as possible.
 
@Makyen that's true, I forgot about that
however what Tim Post seems to be talking about is just giving an extra pile of tag-only CVs to people with silver badges in those tags
Also your 2nd and 3rd lines were just repeating what your first line said @Makyen
 
@TylerH Yeah, I do that sometimes. :-( It'd be nice if there was longer than 2 minutes to edit, so that when I hit send because I'm distracted by something/asked a question in RL, I can come back and fix things.
 
yeah the 2 minute edit thing is really really strict
especially considering you can always go back and see the revision history
so long as the line isn't deleted
and even then, ROs and mods can still see history on deleted lines
In my not so humble opinion (nearly 20 years in chatrooms from ICQ and IRC all the way to Discord and Slack and here), I think an edit time limit of 5 or 10 minutes would be perfectly fine
 
10:39 PM
@Mogsdad took me a minute
 
@TylerH Yeah, 5 or 10 minutes would be more reasonable. I wouldn't want it to be too long, as that invites people to change things to which others have already responded/acted upon.
 
10:54 PM
@TylerH That's what makes it a Dad joke!
Or do you mean it took you a minute to edit them all?
 

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