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12:05 AM
It's showing "Waiting for data to store (Tampermonkey issue)". Is it stuck or does it just take long?
 
@BaummitAugen With the PR, or the release? One of the things the PR should have fixed is that message being displayed in the situation where your filter returns no results (i.e. where it's done filtering, and it looks like it's stuck).
 
@Makyen Release. But the filter is dv:1, that should not be empty.
I'll try PR though.
> Filtered 0 questions in 0.002 seconds at a rate of 0 questions/s.
Huh.
Am I using it wrong? i.imgur.com/fnD2Rz1.png
 
@BaummitAugen Did you "Fetch"?
 
Oh. I though Apply Filters would also fetch. Problem on my end as suspected. XD
Let's try that again. Bah, should have chosen a smaller example than .
 
12:22 AM
@BaummitAugen With C++ (any large tag), you will almost certainly want to "Fetch" and then "Stop" after some number of pages are loaded. 100 or 200 pages (10,000 to 20,000 questions) is usually sufficient.
 
Woop worked!
Need to stop sooner next time, storing 1k pages takes a while.
Thanks for your help @Makyen!
 
Some of the significant improvements from MTR1 to MTR2 is that it shows you how many pages have been fetched, your remaining quota, and has a "Stop" button. With MTR1 you had to know that it was continuing to fetch in the background until you reload/unload the page. The first time I used MTR1 I managed to run myself out of quota for the day. Very inconvenient.
 
Looks good so far.
 
@BaummitAugen I'm glad I was able to help. I guess we should add at least a notice to inform the user that they need to "Fetch" if they click "Apply Filter" when there are no questions that have been fetched yet (and probably if the list is more than X old).
 
12:28 AM
@BaummitAugen Good to hear. If you have problems, please tell me, so I can fix the PR.
 
If the user wasn't 1235rep I'd consider an MCVE
 
@Makyen I will. Everything's smooth so far. Thanks again!
 
@BaummitAugen Anytime.
 
Skipping dupe-targets when filtering on positive delete votes would make sense I suppose.
That and locked posts.
 
@BaummitAugen You mean closed-as-duplicate? Or did you really mean skip questions which are the dup-target for other closed-as-duplicate questions?
 
12:37 AM
@Makyen The latter.
You can't delete those.
 
@BaummitAugen Agreed that deleting those would be bad. Hmmm... I'd have to check if that info is provided in the API. I know that we can get the dup-target for a closed-as-dup. I'm not sure about knowing that the question is a dup-target.
Being able to skip locked posts is good.
 
@Makyen You can't as in the system won't let you actually, not just you shouldn't.
 
Morning \0
 
o/
All in all very nice US though.
Especially like the "Skip voted" thingy.
Filter on (No-)Roomba would be another minor FR.
 
12:59 AM
@BaummitAugen That's on my to-do list, along with getting Roomba Forecaster to display for each question.
@BaummitAugen Yeah, I'd added it to MTR1 and really missed it when transitioning to MTR2. I'm glad to have it back in (in the PR).
@BaummitAugen Yeah, @TinyGiant has done a good job on MTR2. It's very helpful.
 
 
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2:27 AM
@Simon Not cool. You should not promote your own question on this site as this goes against site rules
 
@Makyen: thank you
 
@Simon While I appreciate your desire to have your question reopened, the rules for this room explicitly prohibit anyone from making a request about a post which they've asked or answered, or about an edit which they've made (#15 in our FAQ).
 
@Simon: interestingly that question of yours that you referred to, you yourself must have accepted that it should be closed as a duplicate since it was closed as a duplicate by the Community as per this meta post
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels np. That's what we're here for. Thanks for pointing it out. I was just beginning to look at it and hadn't opened the question yet.
@Simon You have been pointed to the FAQ. You explicitly stated that you would read it. Yet, you made a request which was A) about your own post, which is explicitly against the rules stated in the FAQ, and B) the request didn't appear to even try to follow the format for requests, as stated in the FAQ.
@Simon While we might let the format slide as you are learning, doing things that are explicitly against the rules, like posting a request about your own question, is not something we let slide. Do not do something like that again. Be sure that you read and follow the SOCVR FAQ.
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2:49 AM
Are question owners no longer allowed to contest our actions now, because it counts as a reopen request?
 
@JohnDvorak I'm not sure that rule applies to the OP. We do want people to come here and ask why their question was closed so we can offer constructive criticism.
 
Wasn't it the case here?
 
But in Simon's case he's just saying he disagrees with the dupe. That's not really a reason to reopen
 
It is a reopen reason
 
Sounds like a room meeting topic then
 
2:56 AM
when's the next one?
 
@JohnDvorak Question owners can come here and request clarification and/or discuss why their question was closed. While the result of such a discussion may be that someone else requests that their question be reopened, or that people spontaneously vote-to-reopen, they are not permitted to explicitly request that their question is reopened.
 
@JohnDvorak 6-8 weeks
I mainly note it now so, when it does roll around, I can search for it
 
Should we shout at newcomers if they accidentally make a reopen request, because ... we might be giving them preferential treatment because they're ... locals, given they'd just come here?
 
@JohnDvorak This one was a bit of a special case. Simon had been in the room earlier today/yesterday. It appeared they were looking to participate in the room. I was looking at it more from the point of view of a person participating in the room making the request rather than an OP coming in here requesting more information/discussing.
 
Understood.
My question still stands though, even if only as a non-sequitur devil's advocate suggestion.
... I should stop
 
3:06 AM
@JohnDvorak I can see your point of view too. If @Simon wants to discuss why their question was closed (or if it's reasonable to reopen it), without asking for it to be reopened/asking for votes, I'm happy for us to have that conversation. Perhaps I jumped on it a bit hard. I must admit my response was influenced a bit by being disappointed that the user had not read and followed the FAQ, when they had given multiple indications that they were being proactive about learning and participating.
 
I think you did. Simon not having read the FAQ is, to quote Phoenix Wright, a separate offense :P
 
@JohnDvorak I can see that might be the case. I would have handled an OP coming in here cold differently. I had already mentally slotted Simon into "beginning room participant". I certainly don't expect an OP coming in cold to have read the FAQ. An OP certainly would not have gotten either my second or third message to Simon in the sequence above. I will also modify what I have for the first message so it's a bit more inviting of discussing the reasons for closure/reopening.
 
understood, thanks
 
3:25 AM
@Makyen I just want to say that I feel your follow-up replies to Simon were appropriately worded, with just the right tone
 
3:39 AM
@SamuelLiew Thanks. Yeah, I'm, also, OK with those wrt. giving direction to a new room participant. However, @JohnDvorak does have a good point that the first one needs to make it clear we're open to discussions with OPs, but not requests. I'm working on adding/rewording it so it does a better job of steering towards discussion rather than just shutting down requests.
 
@JohnDvorak: but again and curiously, he himself was part of the question closing process. It was closed by Community, meaning he agreed at that time that the duplicate question fit. Not sure why he thinks differently now.
 
I'm curious about that myself
My theory is hasty accept
 
@JohnDvorak As to when the next room meeting will be: I have no specific information. We can add finding out when the next meeting will be as a topic for the next room meeting :-). Historically, it looks like there's been between 1 to 5 months between meetings, with an average somewhere in the rough ballpark of 3 1/3 months.
 
 
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5:27 AM
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Q: Burninate [donations]

SwellarBurninate request for donations: 1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? In a way, it does describe the contents, which is when you want to create a donation-sort of function. And it is unambiguous I guess, because when you say donati...

 
 
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9:47 AM
That looks like another "no effort" attempt.
I'm a bit worried by your room rules: "To be an effective member of this room you'll need access to the review queues and you’ll need to have some experience on Stack Overflow. Ideally 3k reputation, but 1k will do. That assumes you know the core of the site and assumes you have enough experience in (self)moderation.". Although I should have 1k by the end of the year (after extensive mathematic calculations) I'm not sure I should be here yet.
 
What's wrong ?
 
"Ideally 3k reputation, but 1k will do" I only have 860 at the moment. Am I still allowed here?
 
Don't worry though... I think I was the longest sub 3k member around here for quite some time...
Of course, just make sure you follow the rules, help guys out and get rene'd
 
/relieved OK then :)
 
10:22 AM
@kayess Yeah the worst slacker ever.... :D
 
@PetterFriberg : D
 
@Simon Who knows what "effective member" means :D, you need 50 rep to enter chat, to avoid being kicked (and instead accepted) you should study and follow room rules. My quick general tips for SOCVR are only 4. Be nice, Don't target user, (don't use the room just because your upset with someone), Don't bring your own stuff. 3. Don't spam to many cv-pls (specially as long as you are under 3K). Other then that enjoy, everybody is happy that you like to improve SO
@kayess are you an effective member now? or still slacking :D
 
@PetterFriberg dunno... only rene might know
 
@Simon we also have other fun as flagging NAA, rude comments etc, where your rep is more then enough, let me know if you have fun and time to check that.
 
@PetterFriberg Well as long as it's no problem. I've finally read the FAQ and yes I'm quite enjoying myself.
 
10:34 AM
once upon a time there was a SOCVR team... but SE removed teams, so now there are only SOCVR RO and then the rest of the pleep :D
 
 
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12:06 PM
There are a lot of bad questions about Ansible. Why a kind of spoon is so popular, I don't know.
 
12:22 PM
^ could be offsite resource too
 
Voted as so
 
hi o/
 
hi \o
 
hi o/
 
hi \o/
 
12:52 PM
@MartinJames It's easy to install (just pip, no server component, no configuration), then it's easy to copy some random code from the web, it's easy to execute. If the code did not work - user posts a question on SO "why not working?"; if the code did work - mastery achieved - user posts a question on SO "I want to ... how can I?" (insert whatever a user can imagine).
 
1:05 PM
@halfer Time to resolve... stackoverflow.com/a/48150845/5292302 :)
 
^ Is the answer on that one an answer?
 
1:58 PM
@techraf Are these even "programming related questions" within site rules? Looks more like some configuration stuff/general SW to me.
 
@PatrickHofman Code added to this question you requested review of, 30 minutes ago... still MCVE?
 
@Olaf Oh... It's difficult for a programming language aimed at configuration management to be about something other than configuration management. Same applies to PowerShell DSC, Chef, SaltStack, etc.
 
@Mogsdad Still unclear to me, yes.
 
Does this question look off-topic?
 
@Machavity It doesn't only look that way ;)
 
2:03 PM
@PatrickHofman thx
 
@Simon If you're asking us to take a look at a question with respect to voting-to-close, please include the cv-pls tag in the message you post by using the text [tag:cv-pls]. The general format is [tag:cv-pls] close reason https://stackoverflow.com/q/12345 You can find more information about How and why do I need to format my cv-pls (and other requests)? in the SOCVR FAQ.
@Simon If you desire, feel free to re-submit that question as a cv-pls request with the correct format.
:40718477 If interested, the Sandbox is available to test formatting.
 
Got to go but might later if someone else doesn't doit
@Makyen. Thanks dearly for all your support.
 
2:21 PM
@techraf Point is, I don't see this is a programming language. Not every text file interpreted some way is a programming language.
 
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Q: Is Ansible Turing Complete?

Karim TabetAnsible offers many filters and conditionals. As far as I can tell; it should be possible to implement an Ansible playbook that executes a set of tasks that achieve the same outcome as a Turing Complete language. So, is it Turing Complete?

Please add an answer there :)
 
Is language Turing completeness on-topic for Stack Overflow?
 
@techraf From the answer: "I think it is." Takes more to convince me. A_nd why should I answer as I asked the question?
 
@Olaf Because you decided to share with me (why with me is beyond my understanding) your opinion that "[you] don't see [Ansible] is a programming language". So I decided to find you a better place to post that opinion.
 
@Simon There is a userscript for everything :), also sending cv-pls see socvr.org/tools/userscripts (the *-pls Generator script)
 
2:29 PM
unclear -> general SW
 
@Olaf I'm sorry, I am completely clueless what you want to tell me.
It was you who first addressed a comment to me, so kindly please state your intention.
 
@techraf Do we have 2 techraf users here? It should be clear from the context. If Ansible is not programming related, The question is "general SW", not just "unclear".
 
@Olaf State clearly what was your intention of opening a conversation with me by writing your first comment.
And why did you choose me as the addressee of that comment?
 
@techraf I did link your initial request to see the context above. I also used the reply feature, so you can follow the trail (see the angled arrow-left left of my posts); that should be all context needed. If not, I can't help you further shrug
 
@Olaf I do not see the answer to my questions: the intention; the reason you had chosen me as your interlocutor.
You don't need to help me. It was you who started pinging me with your comments, which you can't explain why.
Please refrain from doing that.
 
2:42 PM
@techraf No need to become agressive. There is a clear reason, I just don't see how I can be even more clear.
Heck, this is too much for a monday (morning)
@techraf You want to learn about the concept of connotation. But thanks, I wasn't aware there are sites explaing words on the net.
You have the last word.
 
ok, this is getting way to passive aggressive for this room. This topic is done
 
Don't make him pull out the big gunrs
 
oh snap
 
Snap - I've got the power
 
@kayess Your must be quite old, dude
That is sooo early 90ies.
 
@Olaf lol no I'm still a young G : P
 
@kayess That's what I say, too when I cite some music/movie/book/etc. from the 80ies ;-)
(honestly, my citations from 60/70ies music, etc. are actually acquired much later, during the last 1-2 decades)
 
3:20 PM
@Makyen One downside of "skipping" voted posts with MTR2... This IP address has performed an unusual high number of requests and has been temporarily rate limited.
That was after skipping 93 questions that I'd already voted on. Just guessing, but if there was some way to find out about previous votes before fetching other details, it might reduce the calls made.
 
Ron
3:43 PM
SpaceX heavy should launch this month. Carry on.
 
@Ron I thought they stopped making these movies long ago en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_(franchise)
 
@Ron Yep. I'm a bit excited
 
Ron
4:01 PM
@Machavity Nice one.
 
Hello, I recently asked a question on SO which was not well received. It got 2 close-votes and a down -vote. No one was willing to leave a comment about it. Could anyone of you take a look at it and tell me why it is so bad? I would really appreciate it. stackoverflow.com/questions/48115830/…
 
Ron
@Forivin I am no front-ender but that seems too broad / unclear to me. Try to narrow it down.
 
hello all
 
Ron
Hello cool cat.
 
in preparation for this winter flurry coming up
 
4:05 PM
o/
 
I am here to make sure all of your emergency preparedness kits are ready
Mine is. I put it together 2 years ago. It was $400. =w=
It allows me to survive outdoors for up to 4 days owo
 
what do you mean "winter"? It's going to be 40F at the end of the week!!! That's so warm!!!
 
Ron
I am here to chew bubblegum and close vote.
 
I can create fire in several ways
I have a fire starter.
I have a lighter. And I have windproof matches.
I should start a fire in our fire pit. It's got some plants growing in there.
 
You can also ask for mandatory comments for downvotes on meta. That will surely light a fire.
 
4:08 PM
OWO
is it too cold for marshmallows?
Is campfires a strictly summer thing?
 
I would say yes
 
In other news, my doggo is okay after being ganged up by five dogs. Rude =w=
 
I VTC'ed this question as off-topic (general computing). Was I wrong with that one?
 
@Forivin Yeah as Ron said it's very broad and "So I would like to ask here first. Has anyone of you implemented a similar movement mechanism?" == unclear what you want? a complete code of the solution or just "Yes I have", "Are there libraries to handle this kind of thing?" - off-site resource request which is a close reason. SO is not good for these kind of question, so I'm not even sure how you can improve it. Maybe concentrate on just on small problem you have with the code.
asking for a complete solution of a program is always too broad and asking for links are off-site... so SO becomes no go for those questions.
 
@honk It's meh but on-topic
@TylerH Got a good dupe for this Q?
 
4:25 PM
@Machavity You mean, the shell script is strong enough to count as programming?
 
@JarrodRoberson they need support from trusted user check it out if you agree (I guess a comment is enough) meta.stackoverflow.com/a/361553/5292302
 
user177800
4:49 PM
@PetterFriberg comments made, especially since I cleaned most of those questions last night myself.
 
Yeah I saw that's why I decided to ping you
 
@honk yes, bash and powershell scripting is programming and on-topic
 
@honk It has in other areas. Bit of a grey area but passable.
 
@Ron @PetterFriberg Thank you, I'll try to improve it.
 
user177800
@honk shell scripting is programming just as much as ASM and C is.
 
4:53 PM
Thank you all for your feedback. Will retract my close vote.
@rene Can you delete my corresponding , please?
 
@honk where is that cv-pls?
 
@honk this
 
@Forivin You are welcome, sorry that I could not help more.
 
meh, it's fine. Not a true cv-pls, you were just asking a question
 
user177800
@honk you can retract your own close votes
 
4:57 PM
@rene I mean this one
@JarrodRoberson Yeah, I already did that. There is just my corresponding post in this chat left over...
 
@honk that worked, thanks
 
@rene Thank you! (Sorry, it took me a while to find it again. It was longer ago than I thought...)
 
dur
@PetterFriberg Isn't that clear? I want to know the sql query if it is possible and the jasperReport. I voted to broad.
 
5:14 PM
@dur I never vote too broad... to me it's unclear what he want's... I can't immagine that he just want us to write all his code... :D
> Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need.
 
5:35 PM
This question is quite specific, but without code it appears a bit broad to me. Is it on-topic or off-topic?
 
5:53 PM
@honk It's 'Teach me basic SQL'
 
@MartinJames So I guess that qualifies it as "too broad"?
 
I disagree. I would not say it's close worthy but it is downvote worthy
 
There is really only one way to answer the question, so it's not too broad. The intent is clear, so it's not unclear. Yes there is no mcve but it doesn't need it
 
@honk I would say too broad.
 
5:55 PM
o/
 
@gunr2171 Well, which close-reason would you suggest? There is no 'Don't ask SO users for basic tuition because you can't be bothered to look it up yourself' reason.
 
yeah, I would not choose a close vote reason.
It would downvote it instead
I feel it does not meet the requirements for close voting
 
@gunr2171 I would agree that it does not meet the available reasons for close voting.
 
martin, you know the rules, we can't agree on something.
that's against the room's lore
 
:) Thanks @MartinJames and @gunr2171 for the clarification!
 
6:06 PM
@KevinWorkman "please download my .rar file"... um, no?
at least have the foresight to make it a standard text file rather than make me download something that can easily deliver a virus to my system.
 
6:21 PM
Well, this is the beginning of the end. Intel and AMD release processor/graphic combo
 
Download potato.exe?
 
@Machavity I'm sure there a pleasure to develop for...
 
@Compass potato.exe --sour-cream --butter
 
You now have a raw potato with sour cream and butter on it.
Consume? (y/n)
 
@Compass Hang on, let me go ask on SO. I'm sure there's a library I'm missing
 
6:25 PM
N
 
You put the potato into your backpack. You now have a computer with sour cream and butter on it.
 
Roll a D20 for your speech check
.....and I'm out for a meeting
 
Ron
"How do I go about doing this? Any help is greatly appreciated."
 
I would personally launch the potato.
But that's just me.
PS, if anyone likes Buffalo Wild Wings... they changed their Blazin sauce.
The hottest one.
Before, it was... American levels of heat.
Now... it is international levels of heat.
Since I have been trained in the art of eating hot food, I could tolerate it. My friend started shedding tears from a single piece =w=
 
@gunr2171 can I get my last cv-pls removed.
 
6:29 PM
@Compass s/international/thai
My boss loves eye-watering levels of pud thai
 
Ron
It's called UTF-16 sauce.
 
Ron
I've spotted a great would-be caretaker in my favorite tag. How to recruit him/her?
 
o.o
 
Ron
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
6:33 PM
@Ron It makes you twice as wide?
 
Ron
@MartinJames Haha, nice one.
 
@Ron invite them in a separate room. We've had some bad experiences with recruiting, specially if the recruitee is not interested in being stalked by the recruiter (you in this case).
 
Ron
@rene I see.
Interesting choice of words there.
 
I'm known for my inventive ways of (ab)using the English language
 
Ron
Kidding, rene, you ultimate Scrum master.
After my Agile training my ex boss asked me: "do you know why we employ Agile methodology here?"
I responded with "So that management could better quantify the work".
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Needles to say I quit that job.
 
6:43 PM
SAVAGE
 
Ron
One of the worst snake-oil factories I've been to.
 
note to self. lock machine before deciding to clean keyboard.
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or unplug keyboard
 
lap top. lol
 
you can still unplug it
just need a screwdriver
 
6:49 PM
technically yes. lol
 
@Nkosi Open a text editor and give it focus. Afterwards, run it as PHP.
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Ron
And don't worry if interpreter reports errors. It still runs.
 
@Ron Yeah - it will do something.
 
Ron
When did this PHP meme become popular?
 
@Ron When everyone realized that you can assign an oilcan to a dromedary and it will get converted.
 
Ron
6:57 PM
@MartinJames Haha. Works for me.
 
Friends don't let friends use PHP.
especially when cleaning your keyboard.
 
PHP: Three thousand people line up on your apartment's welcome mat and demand to be shot in their feet. One by one, you oblige them, but halfway through, the http connection times out and the crowd lynches you.
 
PHP was abbreviated to 3 letters to avoid becoming a 4 letter word.
 
Ron
Ah, so PHP is Chuck Norris of programming languages.
 
7:08 PM
@Nkosi Friends don't let enemies use PHP.
 
@Machavity with the rate that Nvidia is going I am happy to see them go away. Their "updater" software is 95% bloatware and now you have to register an account in order to use it for updates
thank god they still have the ability to download updates straight from their website
geforce experience is just gross these days... shadowplay is the only thing keeping it alive
 
@rene Abby is hairboat btw for anyone who doesn't already know
 
Oh, yes
 
Everyone in my building just lost network access. Productivity has dropped.
 
7:20 PM
@gunr2171 understandably
You seem to have network access still
or do you mean intranet network access
 
I'm using my phone right now
 
@TylerH Oh I hate that piece of junk
 
Some , , and questions in the queue BTW.
 
7:38 PM
@Mogsdad Unfortunately, finding out about votes is difficult. It's possible to find out about close-votes from the SE API, but not delete-votes. However, doing so requires going through the OAuth2 process, which we've all been avoiding. There's also the issue that SE permits a max of 5 such authorizations per user, which can be a significant problem for our users. We could do it, but we still wouldn't be able to get all the data we want/need.
@Mogsdad However, having MTR2 be able to know about votes prior to it needing to display each question is something I'm working on implementing. What I've currently planned, and mostly implemented, is that the CV-Request-Generator will watch for close- & delete-votes and track them for a user-settable time (0 to not record/opt-out). That information will then be available to other SOCVR scripts (request-review, MTR2, etc.).
For now, it sounds like the delay between questions needs to be increased slightly. Try changing the 500 in this line to 600. What delay's needed will also depend on what you're doing with SE on your system, as the check is aggregate requests from the IP. Thus, activity in other tabs/windows/browsers, or other computers which SE sees as the same public IP, are a factor.
 
I'll try that. If we could feed the database you describe from sources outside of CVRG, e.g. this script, or a script on all questions recording delete and close button actions, then we'd further reduce the need to hit up SO directly.
 
7:58 PM
@Mogsdad The CV Request Generator already runs on every SO page where a vote might take place. Thus, it seems like the logical thing to use to record votes, as it's already able to see them. I'm not sure why we would want an additional script. Note that it records the votes based on snooping on the page's calls to $.ajax() and seeing a response from SE that the vote succeed, as there are other possible sources of votes than the user clicking on the button (e.g. keyboard shortcuts).
 
8:31 PM
why is that potentially bad 0.o
 
@TylerH The focus is on potentially ;)
 
yeah but
it's just a number
it's not a phone number or a social security number length
or IP address
oh well
 
Ron
A PHP developer walks into a bar...
And that's it.
Tough audience.
 
8:49 PM
heh
when asked "how would you describe the SO community as a whole" my response was "this question is too broad"
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too bad we couldn't up vote or down vote those questions
 
9:04 PM
CV's all the developer survey questions
 
9:17 PM
@TylerH the server refused to respond at 60% of the survey. I've tried many times. I'm not doing that again.
 
you aren't missing much
it's 75% SO Jobs questions, 15% advertisement questions, and 10% personal demographics/preferences questions
 
@TylerH yeah, that will be my first & my last survey.
 
9:49 PM
stupid typo question / cannot reproduce
 
10:24 PM
yawn good night everyone \o
 
@honk Good night? How do I do that with Ansible?
Ansible is the new jQuery!
 
@MartinJames I'm too tired to get that one ;)
 
@honk goto bed, more annoyances tomorrow, BFN
 
@MartinJames That's what I'm here for :)
 
10:56 PM
If the enemy of my enemy is my friend does that mean that PHP is now friend?
for the record.....I really hope not.
:)
 
I've been sitting at a car dealership for the past hour, SOing while waiting for my car to get repaired. Dangerous place... so many shiny things...
 
11:17 PM
@Makyen I actually got rate-limited sooner with the 600ms delay. I wonder what other factors might have kicked in. Other times, I was limited for maybe a few minutes... this time it's been 15+. Weird.
 
11:28 PM
@KenWhite Done. I would have dv and cv from just that title and, having now read the 'question', I would not have been wrong to do so. Anyway, I had the pleasure of adding the last delv:)
 
11:47 PM
@MartinJames Yeah, it's what caught my attention first, and then the VLQ content on top of that...
 
@KenWhite I'm getting really pissed off with the 'explain this code' 'questions'. If the OP has plagged some code from another student or some site, they should take it apart themselves instead of trying to inflict it on other SO users:(
 

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