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8:00 PM
@Sam Really? That's awesome!
@Undo You are/were homeschooled too? Maybe homeschooled people like programming a lot or something...
 
Sam
@Undo :D
@NobodyNada Yeah, been so for the past several years.
 
Are. It probably helps that homeschoolers' first exposure isn't Java.
Unless that's their choice; can't help you there.
 
wonders how old Undo is
and Sam
 
slightly younger than @ArtOfCode, slightly older than @hichris123 and Doorknob.
 
Just old enough to pass SE legal age limit but don't tell anyone...
 
8:03 PM
wonders if homeschooled means what he thinks it means
 
It means schooled at home.
 
@Undo dang, people are young
@Undo ooooh...that explains it, then
;)
 
@AndrasDeak yeah, people would freak if it was public how many crazy teens are mods around here.
4
 
just my thoughts:D
well, the crazy teen bit
 
@Undo Does Shog count as a crazy teen? Hides
 
8:05 PM
but I think that's great, I'm all for progressiveness (ping @TylerH, is this the right word?)
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak 0b10010
 
the new generation that grows up procrastinating
 
@AndrasDeak Or just "I'm progressive"
or "I support progressive ideas"
 
I support whatever makes the flags less insane.
 
I always assume everyone on here is older then me
 
8:09 PM
@ryanyuyu but I'm not progressive, I'm old and grumpy:P
 
Just don't openly admit you're under 13
 
I always assume most people are younger/same age as me. not sure why(not that old)
 
@MacroMan me too
 
So do I.
I'm usually wrong.
 
@AndrasDeak I think there's a pill for that. That's how Americans would try to fix that.
 
8:10 PM
@Mogsdad we need certainties in life ....
 
Like the sun? That's pretty certain.
 
1. That is certainty.
 
Sam
Until it gets dark.
 
@Sam Will you live for another billion years?
 
on it
 
8:14 PM
@rene I have to ask because I need to get it right even in my head - is it 'reen', 'reeny', 'rennay'?
 
@Tunaki I edited it already
 
Sam
@PhMgBr As long as my processors don't burn out. Then again, I could just live in the cloud.
 
@NobodyNada you modified code, did you mean that?
 
oops, that was magic editor
 
I thought so, figured I would tell you
 
8:15 PM
I should have looked at the code in the diff
 
Sam
Us bots aren't subject to your human decay cycle.
Ain't that right @Clo?
 
@gunr2171 certainty: spys stink.
 
@NobodyNada fixing it...
 
because they eat French cheese?
 
I can do it
 
8:17 PM
@NobodyNada Really? (Doesn't touch code...)
 
@gunr2171 That was the polite word. The actual word is 4 letter, rhymes with truck and starts with an s.
 
I'm pretty sure it was the editor, but I might have done it by accident (I don't think so though)
 
I can't repro it on the original.
 
I can't either, maybe it was a weird bug, or I probably did it by accident
 
Ok - if you do see anywhere that it modifies code reliably, let me know. The closest I've seen is deletion of code when it follows immediately after a "thank you" closing.
 
8:20 PM
@MacroMan use the french pronunciation René (As in René Artois from 'Allo 'Allo)
 
@Mogsdad Okay
 
"rAH - nay"
 
Don't know that guy
 
@rene that's what I was trying to get at with "Rennay" lol but cheers. When I say it in my head I can have a degree of confidence now!
 
René Descartes?
 
8:22 PM
afk
 
That one, yes
 
@NathanOliver o/
 
@ryanyuyu That is a much better reference then René Artois :D
 
the dude after whom the Cartesian coordinates were named...*facepalm*
 
And he's French. French mathematicians are The Best.
 
8:25 PM
according to the French
 
"I think; therefore I am" and all that
 
^ actually not kidding on that one, lots of Fields medal for French mathematicians
 
@Tunaki népotisme
:P
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu He actually meant, "I am on Stack Overflow; therefore I am."
 
Other than Euler. Who was involved in everything. And has possibly the most important constant in math named after him.
 
Sam
8:26 PM
He just wasn't aware of SO at the time.
 
@ryanyuyu "most important constant", don't go there
oh, this is not math.SE, go ahead
 
@Sam Does that imply that being on SO is the same as thinking? Seeing some of the Smokey reports I'm not so sure.
 
you mean 1, right?
 
i
 
you what?
 
8:27 PM
or zero
 
capitalize that, hey!
 
@Sam . . . mod-flagged?
 
Monospaced √-1?
 
what is 1 though?
 
@MacroMan multiplicative neutral element (over Z)
 
8:28 PM
@Markberg hi
 
@AndrasDeak what is Z though?
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu Well, from a bot's perspective, yes.
 
@Mogsdad :D
 
@MacroMan I'm not going there
we'll be ending up with axioms I'm unfamiliar with, soon
 
8:29 PM
@AndrasDeak where is there though?
 
Peano's axioms, to be precise
 
@Mogsdad Is that a deleted answer?
 
Satanic Overlords
oh wait, you mean that SO
 
Sacrifice Omens
 
Should've known better than to bring up math in a chatroom for programmers.
 
8:30 PM
Satirically Orchard
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu What is this magic you speak of?
 
@NobodyNada Of course. Here you go: i.stack.imgur.com/URURp.png\
 
Tunaki, the last drop of signal left in a torrent of noise
 
@rene yay. My faq is being used.
 
@Mogsdad oh, thanks
 
8:32 PM
@Sam discrete math. I hated that class.
 
@PraveenKumar stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/12385347 you make review audits too easy
 
YOU LIKED INDISCREET MATH BETTER?
 
whoa. I had a really bad caching issue.
 
Geshundheit.
 
8:32 PM
@Gothdo You are welcome! :)
 
@AndrasDeak yay digital filters!
 
@ryanyuyu do you think i am mark zukerberg!!!
 
Sam
@ryanyuyu I also noticed that.
 
this room is the center of the fun
@Sam me too
actually "Mark berg" with a space, unless I'm mistaken
 
Sam
Nope.
 
8:35 PM
ouch
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak Yep, just check /recent
 
very nope
 
@AndrasDeak yeah that's what I saw. Autosuggest removed the space.
 
we would ask you to move back to fb :P
 
Really? 3 upvotes within a minute of posting? Fishy.
 
8:38 PM
@Mogsdad hey it might be an awesome SDK
 
very fishy
 
@Mogsdad yeah. mod flag?
 
Flagged as Spam, commenting.
 
@Mogsdad Custom might be better than spam
 
Mod-flag re the upvotes - maybe just drive-bys, but maybe colleagues.
 
8:40 PM
oh, then my link is irrelevant
 
whoa. Super fishy new comment
@Tsunaze can you remove this as the "accepted answer" in favor of the answer from tmcw below? Please see mapbox.com/android-sdk for more details. Thanks! — Brad Leege 35 secs ago
 
That is totally sock puppeted
 
Sam
@Sandra If your sole purpose here was to not discuss any of this room's topics, but rather induce further off-topic conversation(s), I'll have to ask you to reconsider your purpose here.
 
@AndrasDeak hm?
 
8:42 PM
We can leave it at the mods now
 
It looks like the answerer and commenter both work for MapBox.
@rene yeah, that's probably a good idea
 
I already left a custom flag. We'll see what happens.
 
@Sandra This room isn't about general off-topic discussion, but centered moderation on Stack Overflow Thanks for understanding.
 
and I'm out of meetings for the day
 
woot, you survived
 
8:47 PM
Okay its mean if i have any question about wrong down voting or asking question about how to get raise in stack overflow then i can use this room right or have a idea to improve SO am i right
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Wb
 
@Sandra Right.
 
@TylerH I'm unsure about progressiveness
 
Hi @gunr
 
hola
 
8:48 PM
hi
 
yo gunr
 
Sam
@Sandra "how to get raise in stack overflow"?
 
then again, I leave in 10 minutes to drive home
 
Just stay with us
 
@AndrasDeak I'm unsure of the context
 
8:49 PM
Follow the arrows:P Doesn't matter, really, I was just kidding, mostly
 
@Sandra have you seen the meta site?
 
I did, still don't know what you meant by it :-P
 
@MacroMan what is meta site
 
inb4 accidental one box
 
@gunr2171 next time tell your boss you'll Skype In from home for the meetings and leave early?
 
@rene I'm hourly, I can't
 
@NobodyNada wat:O
 
@NobodyNada you better pick up that phone
BECAUSE I CALLED IT
 
@gunr2171 zing
 
nice
 
8:51 PM
@MacroMan what do you want to say
 
Basically, just the URL of any site on the network on a line of its own
 
and you won't even get rene'd for oneboxing:P
 
well, twitter oneboxes are equally creepy
 
I was just about ...
 
8:52 PM
@Sandra meta.stackoverfow.com is like SO (with questions and answers and votes and all that), but it's for discussion about SO. If you have 5 rep on SO you can post there, and your meta reputation is the same as your main site rep.
 
@Sandra what @NobodyNada said
There's an entire site where you can ask questions about SO
 
It's literally in the name you guys
Meta Stack Overflow
 
SO means Stackoverflow
 
@Sandra Yes
 
thats cool any other cool info
 
8:54 PM
@TylerH 'Meta' isn't often used outside programming circles though in my personal experience
 
@MacroMan well, guess what SO is for :)
 
@MacroMan Lots of people don't know words. It's OK though, because we have dictionaries :-)
 
@TylerH yeah, but do you know the keys for the dictionaries? :)
 
I don't understand what you mean by keys. Dictionaries aren't kept under lock and key.
 
8:55 PM
I'm for today, back later maybes
 
cya
 
back
 
Sam
Cya
 
@NathanOliver front
 
8:56 PM
:)
 
haha
 
@MacroMan hardy har har :-)
 
@ryanyuyu I wanted to drop in and comment on the flags, for a little context. I declined a spam flag on this before I realized who it was. I've notified other moderators to handle these, because I'm friends with several members of the MapBox team. Brad Leege is a local developer I've attended meetups with.
 
between
 
I mean lexical dictionaries of course
 
8:57 PM
this is literally the only place I can make jokes like that and someone might laugh
 
@BradLarson Revenge of the Brads
 
I work with technophobes
 
Thank you @Brad
 
Wow, thanks Brad.
 
I honestly believe this was just someone from MapBox pointing out that their SDK is now available for Android, to a question that asked for just that thing. They might have had members of the company vote for it (I can't see individual votes, so I don't know) since they thought it was the best answer to the question. Again, I'm biased, but they haven't pulled any shenanigans before.
 
8:59 PM
@BradLarson thanks for deferring judgement.
 
It seemed kind of fishy to us because it got 5 up votes within 5 minutes, and a comment on the accepted answer asking the OP to change the accepted answer to the new one.
 
I figure it's a misunderstanding that a warning will probably solve
afk for a few minutes
 
@NobodyNada It seems like there's a relatively new official SDK for MapBox
 
@BradLarson I left a comment to the help on promotion in the hope they would see it. I assume good faith for now.
 
So it "should" be the accepted answer, only it doesn't necessarily work that way.
As for the votes, it's difficult to tell.
 
9:01 PM
is there anywhere in stackoverflow that people can share their experience that how they get raise as a developer, what book they have read,...
 
@Sandra No, that's not on topic for Stack Overflow (and I can't think of any other SE sites it would be on topic on.)
 
If it was coordinated voting, we've seen this before with other companies (Microsoft, Google, etc.) whose members participate here. The line between a bunch of people working together who know an answer is correct and vote for it and a voting ring artificially inflating votes can get pretty blurry.
 
sounds right
 
Yeah, we know .. wait ...
 
Ah well, one more declined flag. I'd do the same thing again.
Commute time.
 
9:03 PM
drive carefully
 
Yeah. It looks like maybe the company came up with a better way to do something with their product, and they posted and upvoted a (correct) answer. It looks like they were acting in good faith, just a bit suspiciously though.
 
Wow MapBox employs a surprising number of people
141
 
I didn't flag to begin with, but I think both the suspicion and Brad's caution based on additional info are reasonable
things are working
 
without defining which things I assume you're right
 
@AndrasDeak insert young Anakin "it's working!" gif here
 
9:06 PM
@rene that's the trick
@TylerH Anakin who?:P
 
Skywalker
duhh
 
I only know Luke and Leia of the name.
also, this
 
Bye all, Bit busy today
 
Bye @BhargavRao
 
9:10 PM
@BhargavRao rhubarb
 
OMg
I just read the top of MapBox's team page
 
bedtime for me
night yall o/
 
They list how many employees they have right there
I didn't have to count them all X-/
 
night @MacroMan
 
too much math is bad for your health
 
Sam
9:12 PM
s/health/sanity
 
depends
 
Sam
@MacroMan Cya
 
differential geometry is definitely debilitating from a normal human perspective
but complex analysis frees the mind:P
 
@AndrasDeak you are weird.
 
later all
 
9:16 PM
bye @TylerH
so what room do I go to get smokey privileges?
 
Ping someone who can do that for you, like @Undo.
Oh wait.
 
ah, I thought someone said to go to a different room.
 
@NobodyNada The main Smokey room is Charcoal, but many Charcoal regs also are pingable in SOCVR.
 
@Undo May I have SmokeDetector privileges please? Thank you!
 
Glad to see that the other post was resolved productively. The answer actually looks pretty good with that explanation.
 
9:28 PM
@NobodyNada I got it
 
Thanks @ArtOfCode
 
@TylerH One last thing on MapBox is that one of my friends there just lost his wife to a tough battle with pancreatic cancer, and they started this fund to help App Camp for Girls in her memory: classy.org/events/the-michelle-petruzzi-memorial-fund/e79702 . Again, I'm a little biased, but they're good people.
 
@NobodyNada committed, waiting on CI and pull
 
@BradLarson sorry to hear that.
 
@NobodyNada pulled, you're privileged here
 
9:31 PM
@ArtOfCode Thank you!
!!/amiprivileged
 
@NobodyNada Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
cool
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
It is
 
9:47 PM
wow
YES! Retrocomputing is in beta!
 
@NobodyNada has been for two or three weeks
 
I thought it died in the commitment phase. Someone must have re-proposed it.
 
rene passed a audit!
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 14 minutes and 51 seconds, averaging to a review every 22 seconds.
 
Ok, I'm out, it is wednesday here, I need some sleep
 
bye
 
10:04 PM
See you later rene
 
10:28 PM
New accepted self answer that only restates the question.
But... from a second account.
 
Sam
Wth
 
I suspect voting fraud - flagged.
 
@Mogsdad maybe they're twin brothers.
 
@Mogsdad see also this one.
In fact, all answers by 2nd user. Does look suspicious in the extreme.
 
ninjad
 
10:38 PM
there might be an answer in there, but I'm not inclined to weed it out
 
afk for a bit
 
Sam
Cya
 
10:57 PM
@WaiHaLee Meager'd!
 
Sam
Night o/
 
11:15 PM
bah
night all o/
 
11:28 PM
I am not even getting a single audit...
@Closey stats
 
@PraveenKumar Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
 
@Closey alive
 
@PraveenKumar Still here you guys!
 
11:46 PM
Aaaall right got two declined comment flags on this answer comments we threw out of the LQP Queue, I flagged both review comments as non-constructive according to Undo's plea for sanity.
Guess I'll add "Flagging wrong review comments as non-constructive" to my list of coin-flips flags
 
hmm....but conments deleted
how so?
 
All comments have been cleared anyway
@AndrasDeak Not sure
Might be fat-fingering...
 
do those comment flags cause auto-flags to be raised?:P
 
Heh >.>
Oh, and no decline message
 
great...
I'd assume it's a misclick then indeed, the declension/declination/rejection/decision/whatever
 
11:52 PM
Yeah, might have hit some kind of "Reject all" flag review button or something
 
 sudo kyllall -9 flags
+new poo
 

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