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12:07 AM
@AndrasDeak Wow, 24.5k.
 
@KevinGuan Might want to kindly comment
 
@Kyll Good idea. Do you have time to do it?
 
@KevinGuan Nope. Off to bed, night! =p
 
Rob
@KevinGuan They never disclose their affiliation (except on one post)
 
@Kyll Night, I'll write one then =p
 
Rob
12:11 AM
Their only posts are to promote their site
So even if they're trying to help, their main goal is advertisement, as I see it.
 
Huh, let me check.
 
night @Kyll
 
@Rob Well, but that site looks valid. I mean, not a harmful one and maybe is helpful. So I think these maybe just link-only. Then, a mod flag + comment would be good I think.
 
Rob
Well yeah, but the point is we don't decide what's a good site and what is not :). Even if it were the best website in the world, having your entire account to advertising it is still spamming
But yeah, I agree - comment + flag is enough, since it doesn't seem malicious
 
Fine, let me do them.
Oh, thanks @Raju. Did you mod-flag it?
 
Rob
12:27 AM
Nope
 
@AshishAhujaツ I uploaded my chatbot code to GitHub: github.com/NobodyNada/chatbot
 
@Rob Fine
 
Rob
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by ArtOfCode
Aye, I took a closer look at his history - there's a lot of stuff recommending vtd-xml, most of which is undisclosed affiliation.
 
user3956566
12:46 AM
@Mogsdad this is about that user you blacklisted chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/29722822#29722822 and rightfully so, you may have more info.
 
this one looks like a spam.
 
user3956566
@Raju it answers an off topic question, better to close the question
 
user3956566
although it probably is an advertisement
 
user3956566
There's quite a few posts here with 4 close votes if anyone wants to review chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
sigh...wingding
I'm thinking about leaving wingding a comment, something like "you've been posting so much spam that we tuned spam detection bot to detect everything you post. You're far past the point of being able to harm Stack Overflow, and all you're doing by posting this is increasing our helpful flag count."
Is that a bad idea?
 
user3956566
1:03 AM
@NobodyNada it's probably a range of people I wouldn't bother
 
user3956566
@NobodyNada if you see the user's last comment, "communitywork" over and over, it's better not to give them any satisfaction
 
Are we supposed to use "sd f" or "sd n" for things like link-only answers?
 
user3956566
but f is similar
 
he's posting a lot today
 
user3956566
yeh and there's not many of us around
 
user3956566
1:13 AM
what a loser to have no life
 
user3956566
someone who probably got downvoted and cannot post a decent thought
 
There's enough of us to take care of his spam in about a minute
Although maybe that's because Undo is here
 
@Yvette lol that sent feedback - I cleared it for ya.
 
user3956566
there's one post that's been on the site for 9 mins
 
user3956566
@hichris123 oh god, sorry and thanks!!!
 
user3956566
1:15 AM
lol @NobodyNada I sd n'ed wingding LOL
 
@NobodyNada sd n == sd naa-. Use n when you think that the answer Smokey reported is NAA. However, if it's a valid one, then you should use f. However, you can only use f on questions. For more details, here's the documentation of Smokey.
 
user3956566
hi K!
 
@KevinGuan Why only on questions?
 
because you can't flag a question as Not an Answer.
 
1:16 AM
What do you do if a question is a false positive then?
 
user3956566
f
 
Oh, did you mean "you can only use n on questions?"
 
user3956566
n on answers that are naa
 
user3956566
you can also use f on answers
 
Sorry; I'm confusing myself.
 
user3956566
1:17 AM
you cannot use n on questions
 
It makes sense now.
 
user3956566
yes LOL
 
I thought "you can only use f on questions" meant you can not use f on answers.
 
user3956566
n is for link only type answers to give smokey hq feedback, that it indeed was a link, but not mailicous
 
Right
 
user3956566
1:18 AM
ah yes, that makes sense, lost in internet translation
 
Yeah, sd n means this answer should be flagged as NAA, it's an extra option. We only have sd f in the past actually.
sd f means this post is not spam, it's valid.
 
Thanks, sorry.
 
No problem, always try to learn more \o/
 
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Closey next tags
 
1:25 AM
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@NobodyNada The next 3 tags are: 32, 27, 26
 
sorry; that was my bot
 
@Yvette Thanks for the ping - there's a fine line between answers & promotion, for sure.
 
NobodyNada passed a audit!
 
Rob
1:57 AM
Bleh.. what a rubbish edit: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/12385626 - actively breaks the code
 
NobodyNada passed an audit!
 
@Closey That's the second time I've gotten an audit on that post...
 
@NobodyNada You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 40 minutes and 28 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute.
Ian has started reviewing!
Ian passed a audit!
Ian passed a audit!
Drew has started reviewing!
Ian reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits)! The time between Ian's first and last review today was 15 minutes and 56 seconds, averaging to a review every 23 seconds.
Drew passed a audit!
 
2:43 AM
Woof!
 
woof
 
How's it going? Looks like lots of incoming garbage tonight - situation normal.
 
Fairly good
Working on metasmoke
and nuking wingding, apparently
 
You can't keep a jackass down.
 
Morning
 
2:48 AM
\o
 
@AshishAhujaツ Not here... 10:48 PM
 
@Mogsdad Oh, Okay. here it's 8:19 am
 
@AshishAhujaツ Did you see the bot code?
 
@NobodyNada Okay. I see the code. Thanks.
I'll first have a look on the code today, and see if I have time to expand on the bot.
 
3:02 AM
Wingding just posted a genuine answer????
 
@SmokeDetector watch that for nasty edits
 
Oh. He thinks we won't catch it if he edits it.
 
@NobodyNada Yup. He doesn't know that sd even tracks edits
 
Smokey will notify us again if he edits a post, right? (Even if we mark it as false positive?)
 
false positives are never reported again
 
3:04 AM
Yeah
 
Oh, I won't false positive it then.
 
You should just use "ignore" in such a case
It's the perfect command
 
In its current form, it's a false positive for metasmoke data.
 
I thought you said it won't report it if he edits it if we mark it as false positive?
 
Don't think it will, but that's okay
I've got it open in another tab
and he's blacklisted anyway
 
3:07 AM
good
 
No idea how the blacklisting will play with the ignoring
 
let's hope he doesn't spam meta now. He now has >5 rep
 
Why are those answers being down voted? Is it because the question should have been closed, or to get wingding below 5 rep, or both?
 
I'm not voting on it.
This is a good case of 'for the content, not the user', folks
 
The other answer was down voted too. Maybe it's because the question was answered in comments several minutes before they posted?
 
3:11 AM
I haven't voted, but I think it was because the users posted the answers only to gain rep. They could've done the same thing in comments.
 
That's what I'm thinking too. I didn't vote either.
@Ashish So what do you want to do with the bot? Do you want to work on a bot yourself, or should we both work on one? Can you think of anything useful for it to do (because I'm bad at that)? Do you have any questions about it?
 
@NobodyNada I'm currently still analyzing ChatBot.c. If you want me to work with you, I'm okay with that also, but after this month I won't be able to help, as I'm going to be very busy. That leaves only like 12 days. So I don't think we can create a bot in so less days. But yeah, I can help you with the ideas in my free time.
And even I don't plan of making a bot in the next moth.
 
I don't have a ton of free time either, and I often work on other programs too. I'm planning on just working on it little by little, when I feel like it.
 
Alright. If you want me to help, I'm okay with that. But I will be only be able to give like 30mins per day after this month.
And I have a few ideas
One thing is the bot can find exact-match plagiarism of other SO posts
Another one is that we can make the bot to find NAA
 
Right. You don't need to help at all if you don't want to; it's completely up to you. If you do work on it, feel free to submit pull requests anytime.
 
3:23 AM
I can help, but the only thing is that I will take a lot of time. So yeah, I'll work on it. At least these 12 days
But what should the bot do?
 
The plagiarism is a good idea. NAA would work too; although that overlaps some with Smokey.
 
Okay
I'll start making an algo for plagiarism tomorrow.
I don't have much time today in the evening
 
It would probably work to do something like "search the first 10/20/30 or something" words of each new post, and post the search results to the chat if there is more than one
We'd need to test it somewhere though.
 
Yeah, kind of.
First we will even have have to have a POC.
 
@AshishAhujaツ a what?
 
3:27 AM
A Proof of Concept. Testing that the algo somehwere.
 
proof of concept
bah, slow network
 
Oh, thanks
 
So you think the plagairism idea is good enough?
 
Yes. We could also add more features later too.
 
Okay. I'll start working on the algo tomorrow
 
3:28 AM
I think I'll try again to get libwebsockets to work again. I gave up earlier because it just wouldn't connect.
 
We can always test the algorithm in the formatting sandbox on Meta.
 
Okay
One interruption... Sorry. Can you just give me 10 mins
 
No problem! I'm going to go to bed soon anyway.
 
@NobodyNada I'm back.
 
3:49 AM
@AshishAhujaツ You might want to ping @Yvette about that... I think she was putting some time into a plagiarism detector a while back. Might have some ideas for you. AND... please do test it somewhere else! SOCVR Testing Facility, for instance.
 
@Mogsdad Okay. And yeah, we won't test the bot here.
 
Well, flagged, voted, reviewed, edited... and even answered a question! That's a full evening for me. Good night from me, and good day to you folks on the other side of the world! Don't wreck the place...
 
Night @Mogsdad
 
Goodnight!
 
Night @NobodyNada
 
3:51 AM
@AshishAhujaツ I was talking to Mogsdad, although I'm going to go to bed soon.
 
Oh okay. Sorry
 
Good night and good morning!
 
Morning @NisseEngström
@NobodyNada I just found this question on which an answer provides some algo's to find plagiarism. I think we can take a few tips from that ans.
 
Nice!
 
I'm sure they will be more resources on the net. They will give us some ideas.
Then we can start making our own algo
So first we're making an exact-match instance algo right? And after that the more complex one?
 
3:59 AM
Sounds good
 
user3956566
@AshishAhujaツ Please don't do that: stackoverflow.com/users/5912150/ada @NobodyNada
 
user3956566
you are welcome to help on this project, it is slow atm, as I am snowed under
 
@Yvette Isn't ada for finding dupes?
 
That would detect plagiarism too, I guess
 
user3956566
plagiarised content on SO is dupes
 
user3956566
4:01 AM
and plagiarsed content on SO is a little different to plagiarised content taken off SO and posted on SO
 
Oh okay. Sorry. I think then we will work on something else. I can even help you with your project, but I do not know python.
@NobodyNada Then I'll think of something else
 
user3956566
Under the licence all the content on SO can be used on SO, but with attribution.
 
user3956566
you are welcome to help on that project
 
user3956566
there is a problem with plagiarism, particularly with tag wikis
 
@Yvette Which language is the bot in?
 
user3956566
4:03 AM
c#
 
user3956566
I'm happy to have help, I'm working insane hours atm
 
Oh, Okay. Unfortunately I don't know c#. I mainly only know C
 
user3956566
C is beautiful, my first love
 
@NobodyNada I'll think of something and inform you.
 
Ok, I'll try to think of something too (but I'm not good at that)
 
4:04 AM
Fine
 
user3956566
it's good to have the ideas, don't be discouraged!
 
@NobodyNada How 'bout making a bot which reports questions which have three or more close votes, but haven't been closed since 2 months of the first close vote being added.
 
Don't close votes expire after a few days?
 
Umm. I don't know. Sorry then
Haven't actually ever used cv's so don't know too much
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
4:11 AM
keep going with that idea, it sounds good to me
 
user3956566
 
@Yvette thanks. i'm reading that
 
user3956566
I really got to work. but will be flagging SD reports.
 
Goodnight!
 
user3956566
this is another thing that is near and dear to my and Undo's hearts meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/313486/…
 
4:14 AM
Night @NobodyNada. Will inform you with the ideas tomorrow.
 
Thanks!
 
user3956566
@NobodyNada night
 
@Yvette Thanks. The links you're providing are helpful
And if you want me to help with your bot, I'm okay with that too. But I won't be able to program with C#, nor help after this month.
@Yvette You should have a look at this. It provides some information about plagiarism algo's.
Bye
 
4:41 AM
Hiya
@Yvette So what's the progress of your bot?
 
user3956566
5:04 AM
@AshishAhujaツ I really can't chat now. I am working. I keep SD open to flag posts. will let you know when I have time to chat.
 
@Yvette np. Even I'mm gonna go in a few minutes
Bye
 
JK.
5:23 AM
 
 
2 hours later…
6:58 AM
Good morning
 
7:15 AM
best comment yet, ha! they kept submitting a useless edit to my answer to change the URL to suit them: stackoverflow.com/questions/30824013/…
 
Plop!
 
@cybermonkey Are you affiliated to mobile.friendeyz.com ?
 
7:30 AM
Hiya
 
one more flag needed!
 
Woops, sorry. Was reading Sec.SE
 
@rene buh. The feeling when you open the post and then are only abe to flag for mod intervention
 
:)
yw
 
7:45 AM
Meh, I still don't get these two declined flags (non-constructive LQP comments on this answer that were deleted nonetheless). No decline reason. (1/2)
Maybe it was because it could have fit the controversial review: more delete votes than 'looks good' auto-flag reason but then should we really ever flag wrong LQP comments as non-constructive as Undo's plea suggests? Or are we just generating useless noise by doing so? (2/2)
 
I generally flag obsolete review comments when it has completed and the posts was 'Looks OK' - they have never been declined.
 
@Tunaki Well, if an auto-flag was raised anyway it's a waste of diamond time
 
@Kyll is there an auto-flag?
 
@Tunaki yes
 
I... was tricked. grumble I should know better than to trust a blurry flower
 
7:52 AM
@Tunaki It's unclear. ChrisF's answer states: "controversial review: more delete votes than 'looks good'". But is that raised on completion, or as soon as it happens? In the first case, additional non-constructive flags on comments are useful. In the latter case, they are useless noise.
I commented to ask for clarification
@rene >.<
 
goes back to work, Mission. &^%$. Accomplished.
 
Plop!
 
@k-man hi
 
@t-man o/
 
@Tim @KevinGuan o/
 
8:02 AM
Plop Kevin, Tim
 
Morning o/
 
:30607470 ..?
 
was already posted
 
Right
 
Left
 
8:10 AM
@KevinG can you remove this stackoverflow.com/questions/35576290/…
 
@Tunaki random question, how do I get a bot into another room so I can test things?
without annoying people...
 
@TimCastelijns Done.
 
@MacroMan you can create your own room for testing purposes
 
ready for a declined flag
 
@KevinGuan did you flag NAA?
 
8:11 AM
Hmm...I think I did.
 
I did that before, but say for instance I want to try out some commands with Closey - how do I get it to follow me, just ping it?
 
You wan't it to speak with Closey?
 
@Tunaki Yeah, I won't comment otherwise. It was NAA, but anyway, good edit.
 
no he wants to play around with closey
 
@MacroMan hmm what do you want to do exactly?
Closey doesn't really take feedback
 
8:13 AM
@Tunaki nothing in particular just try things out like what's in the GitHub wiki for example - but don't want to annoy everyone in the room doing it here
not necessarily Closey either - also just wanted to know for future reference
 
I can lend you a bot to speak with :D
 
@MacroMan You run closey your self?
 
If you need talking, there's Hatman...
 
@IanKemp Huh? That one looks fine to me.
 
@KevinGuan no code whatsoever
 
8:17 AM
@rene as in run it locally? If it's a PITA I won't bother tbh it was just mild curiosity more than anything lol
 
@IanKemp Meh, no code != too broad. Yeah, sometimes they are, but not always.
Let me find a meta post...
 
@MacroMan I can run Closey for you in the Testing facility if you want? But I'm not on the latest branch I believe so I might have to do some fiddling to get it up.
 
@MacroMan If you just need any bot, setup a room and I can send a AI bot in that will answer
 
@IanKemp No code, aka lack of productive effort, is not a close reason but a downvote one
 
@rene @PetterFriberg no it's fine honestly - if it was a simple quick thing that I could do then maybe but it's really not a big thing, was just something for a rainy day :)
 
8:20 AM
There are lots of bots to loose time with around here :)
 
appreciate the offer though guys :)
 
And yeah, as Kyll said.
 
@KhalidHussain recommendation
 
@MacroMan flag-pls isn't allowed in SOCVR, just flag it yourself.
 
8:20 AM
@MacroMan Please don't request for flags on NAA. Furthermore, I wouldn't flag that, it is an answer.
 
won
 
*note to self*
 
@MacroMan See the Can I request flags? part of our FAQ for more details.
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
8:26 AM
Do not click the link. VERY NSFW.
Wafflez
 
@KevinGuan i strongly disagree with that meta answer. my personal viewpoint more closely matches this one meta.stackoverflow.com/a/283231/70345
@KevinGuan to quote: "Instead, we should encourage them to tell us what got in the way of them solving the problem for themselves. We should then teach them how to get over whatever speed bump (or brick wall) they have encountered. That will help those in the future who hit the same problem."
 
may be SO employee can help this guy, cz his site is similar to SO :P
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37293168/how-to-integrate-lucene-into-java-web-application
 
@Cerbrus No, that's the website in the user's original question, but they changed it and also submitted an edit to change it in my answer too. Edit was too minor in my opinion.
 
@KhalidHussain I can see that turning into a meta post "why does everyone hate me?"
 
lol... you are right @MacroMan
 
8:37 AM
morning
 
hey b-man
 
Hiya o/
 
@IanKemp Well, I agree with that "try to solve a problem yourself with the Internet" is an important ability - everyone should know and try that instead of "please help me solve this problem".
@IanKemp So the point is, if the question they asked, is special, clear. And the solution is kinda simple or single (instead of 73 different versions about 100 lines of code). Then I'd say it's a "whatever speed bump (or brick wall)", and we should teach them how to get over of it, not "try yourself before ask here".
And hey b-man.
 
@Tunaki
@Tunaki Hello are you here
 
@FarazDurrani yes?
 
8:38 AM
ok thank xD
 
holy balls that wingding a-hole is persistent
 
@KevinGuan they left a comment on a question of mine after that =/
 
@KevinGuan their comment was just deleted for being rude as well..
 
8:40 AM
@Tunaki =/, mod flag if needed then.
 
@KhalidHussain are you here?
 
@Ashi
@AshishAhujaツ from Titan Cricket Club in chicago?
 
@FarazDurrani No
 
@cybermonkey Ah right. For an suggested edit, that is quite minor indeed.
 
8:42 AM
I never even went to chichago
 
ok sorry I mistook you for someone else.
 
yes @FarazDurrani
 
@FarazDurrani You joined here today?
 
@AshishAhujaツ no I joined like a year ago. I think more than that
 
Oh, okay. Never seen you before
 
8:44 AM
@KhalidHussain can you join the invitation? if you like...
@AshishAhujaツ yes I come here not that often. only when I have a question
 
FR if (username.equals("wingding")) { post.delete(); }
 
@Tim they have been known to read the transcript
 
@TimCastelijns No. In the morning, surprisingly, wingding posted a legit post.
 
@TimCastelijns @Ashish Again, don't comment.
 
8:50 AM
fine, if you all stop sd k-ing 5 times every post
 
@AshishAhujaツ User is blacklisted (6349886 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@AshishAhujaツ Why?
 

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