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4:01 PM
burger > beer confirmed
 
@cimmanon Yeah, I think so. The target includes a Swift answer.
 
@Kyll indeed.
 
I'm outta close votes, so you may have the honour!
 
empty too
 
Still got 20, didn't go into the queues yet
 
4:02 PM
@Kyll I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Mogsdad I just closed it with the dupe link.
 
I'm on
 
@EricD. Hooray fo' da Hamma!
 
:)
 
hmm... someone edited out the copyright information on that answer: stackoverflow.com/posts/36009529/revisions
should we be doing that?
 
4:04 PM
Waits for Closey
 
@BhargavRao I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@cimmanon Heeh technically it's noise, I suppose
And I don't think it holds any legal value
 
@Kyll but you cant just cant change the licensing
 
@Kev, why did you leave that screenshot in?
 
@cimmanon Are you talking about the edit or the answer?
 
4:05 PM
the edit
 
@cimmanon @Kev I was editing out the links, but was looking for guidance on the copyright & self-attribution info. I think that edit has overstretched.
 
Because yes, the answer can't change under what the content is licensed (CC-BY-SA)
 
if i were to quote something on another website, that doesnt make the content i quoted now licensed by whatever it is we use here
 
@cimmanon ... I think it does, actually.
 
no, it does not
 
Kev
4:07 PM
@SmokeDispenser oh I didn't look closely at that....is that not a screenshot of the example in use (I am not a Swift/XCode/Apple expert)
@Mogsdad it's noise
 
Anyway, I'm not a lawyer and bored by this. This should be taken to Meta
 
@Kev Even the function name? c'mon.
 
@Kev, yeah, it does include debugging values of the code in action. but also, that commentary again.
 
Ninja'd by Tyler on the duplicate question.
 
Kev
@Mogsdad it's just a filename in a comment
@Mogsdad the rest is copyright, social media and contact fluff
 
4:10 PM
Ha! just crossed the 3K limit. Now I can review close votes. World domination in reach!
 
@Kev THAT stuff I agree with nuking.
afk - lunch!
 
Nothing else in . Let's check how the clean-up is going...
 
@JohannesJander welcome!
 
@JohannesJander, welcome.
 
@JohannesJander Welcome home \o/
 
4:11 PM
ah @toskv perhaps a typescript gent too ^^
 
Kev
@Mogsdad sorry....you lost me....what did I nuke that shouldn't have been?
 
Bhargav Rao passed a audit!
 
i.stack.imgur.com/tkOmP.png You know it is an audit when [turtle] is before [c++] :D
 
@BhargavRao obvious audit is obvious
 
4:13 PM
Lol, Yeah
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[close] [turtle]"
 
@NathanOliver thanks :)
 
If you have not done so you may want to visit our FAQ
 
I'm in the process of editing on-topic questions and removing the tag.
 
4:15 PM
@NathanOliver Are you going to link that to every single newcomer? =p
 
While doing that, there are a couple of Q that I feed to the queue.
 
@Tunaki need any help?
 
@Kyll Possibly.
 
I'm currently sorting by votes and going from top to bottom. If you want to join me... :D
@SmokeDispenser I'd like to. Do you know what to do?
 
@cricket_007 Went with unclear
 
4:17 PM
@Tunaki I'm gonna bottom to top then. Well, edit the tag out if the other tags leave it clear?
 
@NathanOliver thanks, I'll read it. Not yet 100% how this works, so I'll just sit around and watch for some time
 
@SmokeDispenser Not jus that. You need to really improve the Q in the process. Find a better title, reword the question, fix the typos, etc... make it good. Add also relevant tags
A complete edit.
Also, don't forget to search for potential dupes. And if the question is off-topic, VTC it.
 
@Tunaki, picking out cherries on my turf then, will be heading home soon.
 
@JohannesJander Sounds good. If you have any question feel free to ask. There is normally someone in here that at least can pretend to know what is going on ;)
 
@Kyll Yeah, all across the board with "I have no experience and don't know how"
 
4:19 PM
Does someone know what's going on here?
I'd like to know myself.
 
runs in circles
 
By the time you spend around here, you should know, @Tunaki ;)
 
:)
 
@Tunaki there RO floats away. fun, again.
 
@BhargavRao You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 16 minutes and 56 seconds, averaging to a review every 25 seconds.
 
4:21 PM
No fun. We hat fun here
 
@JohannesJander If you have any question about our activities, do ask. We'll then be able to redirect you somewhere the answer allegedly is, only to trap you in the Closey Dungeon.
@NathanOliver If rene hadn't done that typo, so many things would be different today.
 
@Closey Yeah, Thanks.
 
@Kyll :)
 
Thanks @Kyll - I already lurked the last days and found you quite the nice and friendly bunch. Not even kidding :)
2
 
theres this meta question regarding copyright notices, but it was never resolved: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/285737/…
post a new question?
 
4:23 PM
We should add a mandatory "lurking" period to the FAQ :)
 
@JohannesJander you only think that because ive been quiet in here the past few days :p
 
@cimmanon Maybe something like "Should copyright notices be edited out of posts?"
 
@Tunaki, some have open close votes on them.
 
@SmokeDispenser Yes. There are questions already in the queue.
 
4:25 PM
@cimmanon I'd provide a screenshot of the revision instead of the link. I hate the Meta effect.
 
i guess i could leave out the link unless someone asks about it
 
Bans @bhargavrao for being a freethemes spammermeagar ♦ 1 min ago
 
Kev
@Kyll @cimmanon - why bother with extra busy work. If OP has an objection then he/she can raise on meta as I suggested in my edit comment.
 
@BhargavRao Bans @bhargavrao for being too punny
 
@Kev Because it's an interesting issue!
 
4:28 PM
@Tunaki, editing those might not be helpful. Also, all that web, vb and c# stuff is way out of my comfort zone, I'd rather not touch any of them;)
 
@Tunaki Yeah true :D
 
@SmokeDispenser Edit what you feel you can edit of course. Don't go outside of your comfort zone :)
 
@Tunaki, just meant to be a quick note that I'll be not much help :)
 
Kev
@Kyll if I still had my mod diamond and bumped into it I'd have done the same and the world would have merrily wended its way onwards without incident
@Kyll - 99.99999% of answers don't have that cruft. That's why you have a profile page
 
4:31 PM
@Kev Maybe so, but it'd still be nicer to link to a specific Meta post instead of saying to ask a question there
@cimmanon Hammered
... To a target which has nothing to do with the post
 
@Closey commands
 
@SmokeDispenser Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
@Closey total reviews today
 
@SmokeDispenser Today, 8 members have reviewed a total of 247 items.
 | User                | Review Items Today |
 |------------------------------------------|
 | Bhargav Rao         | 40                 |
 | Ferrybig            | 40                 |
 | SmokeDispenser      | 39                 |
 | Mogsdad             | 38                 |
 | Kevin Guan          | 33                 |
 | Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW | 29                 |
 | Undo                | 26                 |
 | Kyll                | 2                  |
 
@cimmanon Closed & reopened within 5 minutes, nice
 
4:35 PM
(the bot command script is outdated, isn't it?:))
 
@Closey Wait, I only did 2? Pretty sure I did more xD
 
kyll 2. Oi, get to work.
slacker
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Gimby I don't see you in the list
 
@Kyll go gogog:)
 
4:36 PM
@kyll ... shimmies off into the dark dark shadows
 
@SmokeDispenser I'm waiting for more - Get to work with Tuna!
 
@Gimby you better pick up that phone....because Kyll called you out
 
@Kyll, shutting down machine now. off work, getting some sleep. later.
@Kyll like this
@Kyll, now stop slacking, start running.
 
@Gimby Oooh I'm sorry, you don't have 3k. It must be so difficult to live, I shouldn't pile on.
 
@kyll thanks :(
 
4:39 PM
If you ever need to talk about how powerless that must feel - please do.
 
I don't have 500. Dieing here
 
@Kyll you know, there's "insult to injury", but you just stuck a rod in the guy and found some salt.
 
lol
 
I do like salt
 
=D
 
4:43 PM
Can I just start editing away close tags to help? or is there more to it?
 
@Signal You can but there's strict guidelines to follow
 
Where can I find those?
 
@Signal It's the general editing guidelines
 
Oh ok.
Can I just call the edit 'removing burniated tag'?
 
@Signal as a <2k user, it's best not to do mass retagging yourself. It puts a large strain on the suggested edit queue
 
4:44 PM
26 mins ago, by Tunaki
@SmokeDispenser Not jus that. You need to really improve the Q in the process. Find a better title, reword the question, fix the typos, etc... make it good. Add also relevant tags
 
Edit the tag out of questions, but don't forget to be thorough with the edit - Noise removal, title, grammar, lack of free red-handed circles, etc
@gunr2171 It's not like there's any issue with that queue
 
@Kyll not sure if sarcastic or not
 
You can help but don't overdo it. Only edit a couple.
 
Kev
@Signal - "substantive edits" is the key
 
@gunr2171 With the number of items in it, at least =p
 
4:45 PM
I'll only do the ones where there is more to do than just the tag, I understand having 100 edit requests is alot on the queue
 
@SmokeDispenser I just read that security question
 
Moving, now afk
 
Sadly the questioner didnt mention the name of his app
so I can never use it
 
@Signal Okay :).
Limit yourself to a few though.
 
Ok!
 
Kev
4:47 PM
@Signal - find stuff where the formatting is poor, especially stuff where OP has disgorged their code straight off a copy-paste from their editor and there's tab/indentation mayhem
 
@Signal Ha and also, try to edit only on-topic questions.
 
Félix Gagnon-Grenier passed an audit!
 
it really should be closed as pob
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier "but my original question is still - can I get this kind of control on iOS" - isn't it more a case where some fluff needs to be edited out of the question maybe?
 
4:56 PM
@Signal I would approve it
 
@Signal Yep very nice :)
 
@Signal You missed the title! :)
 
@Gimby "this kind of control" being some unclear (to me, at least) difference between the way event are managed across os's, it really seems to call for a "compromise this for this" answer
of which there are none of quality, also
that being said, sure, I'll bite. metaphorically
 
@Kev In the edit you beat me to, I was planning to leave:
//
// UIColorExtend.swift
//
// Created by Chamath on 3/15/16.
 
Kev
@Mogsdad // UIColorExtend.swift
if at all
but we already know who the author is
 
5:03 PM
Yep, good enough.
@Kev I've developed the habit of putting a link to the answer in comments, so that copy-pastas retain a helpful reference for maintenance.
 
@Gimby well.. beat me to it, seems I'll somewhat accept it is an ok question now...
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier huh? The edit is yours isn't it? I was in the process of trying to edit it but got a little stumped as to what actually could be cut. But basically it boils down to what you did.
 
Kev
@Mogsdad maybe SO should develop an annoying thing that intercepts the ^C and auto-inserts linkage to the source answer :)
 
@Kev smirk
...although, probably less annoying than the license change discussion has been...
 
Kev
@Mogsdad I have purposely ignored, and don't really care.
 
5:16 PM
One should always take the high road correct?
 
@NathanOliver What's the context?
 
@NathanOliver yes, unless there's oncoming traffic.
 
@NathanOliver Always take to road when high
 
I auto commented with my learn to use a debugger comment. OP responds with please don't insult me. and read the question, if you don't understand it. you can ask a question.. I then proceed to check a couple things in my debugger and I get the answer to his problem. It is really tempting to add to my answer that this was found by using a debugger.
 
sd remove on it
 
5:19 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what do you use for an o/s ?
 
@NathanOliver do it
 
@NathanOliver If it answers the question, why not?
 
mostly windows at home, OS X at work and FreeBSD when I have time
 
thx
 
5:20 PM
all 4
 
@rene @Undo OK. Just wasn't sure how it would go over
 
@NathanOliver agree with Undo and rene, you can add it. But don't say it like "look, had you used a debugger, you wouldn't have need to ask it" of course :).
 
@NathanOliver Might go over poorly, but if the guy has some religious objection to debuggers... he's got other problems.
 
Pls ignore the good advice from @Tunaki ;)
 
5:23 PM
I used Using my debugger I noticed when you store the values.. at the start
 
Hé @NathanOliver I have another problem here, can you use your debugger again, it was awesone last time...
 
@Tunaki Of couse. That was actually a comment I said after the OP complained: *I am not trying to insult you. If I was to give you an answer that is what I would do. Maybe you could do it to and find the answer yourself. *
 
@rene lol :D
 
@rene Rep source ;)
 
afk
 
5:31 PM
The user script Stack Overflow Xtras (SOX) is expanded for the Stack Exchange network, I wonder what it's acronym would be.
 
@BhargavRao Still SOX. SE is now SO
 
Oh yeah. Thank God
 
5:52 PM
@Kitler omg it's a unicorn
Kitler in SO chat
@NathanOliver SE the company is now SO (again), but the network is still Stack Exchange :-)
SEX-US - Stack EXchange User Script
 
Eh, It's no fun staying on SO w/o flags, cvs and votes. I'd rather watch a movie
Bye all o/
 
@TylerH As if what we're doing isn't already a desperate cry for help...
 
Know any good dupe targets for How to Do Content Copy Protection Without JavaScript, or should it be closed as too-broad?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara take your pick google.com/…
@Mogsdad lol
@AlexanderO'Mara I like this one stackoverflow.com/questions/1142788/…
Answered by Jonathan Sampson, PM for the Microsoft Edge browser team
and one-time SO mod :-)
 
6:01 PM
@TylerH and I was holding back on making a similar joke...
What has become of this room
 
user3956566
hi all
 
@TylerH Meh, I feel like there should be a better answer out there.
 
user3956566
Anyone here good with php?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara you mean like stackoverflow.com/a/1294511/2756409
@rene Sorry, I am just living up to my job title on my profile...
 
Would you reopen a question, which asks about a common error and also is closed with the canonical duplicate, but you wrote a very specific answer for that question which also includes other side stuff? Or would you just delete the answer? Post it as comment with a pastebin link? ...
 
6:03 PM
@Rizier123 post your answer to the canonical duplicate
(referencing the use case)
that's the point of the canonical afterall
 
user3956566
@UmmEHabibaSiddiqui hi \o Haven't seen you here before
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW if you need anyone who is useless with PHP, ping me
 
@TylerH But as I said it's a very specific answer to the question, so it wouldn't make much sense for the canonical one.
 
user3956566
@rene ok, will do! :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW That user is probably here because I'm commenting on a question of them
 
user3956566
6:04 PM
ah k
 
@Rizier123 hence, reference the use case. If you think it might be helpful. Or you can just leave a comment linking to a pastebin but ideally you'd post it in a more permanent way
 
have to switch trains afk
 
what is the PHP question?
 
@TylerH That one's pretty good, I'm going with this one though: stackoverflow.com/questions/3020715/… I'm surprised there aren't any that detail on how many levels this isn't really possible. Maybe it's just buried under the pile of dupes.
 
@rene @Undo @Tunaki It looks like it went over okay. The OP just accepted my answer.
 
6:06 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara TBH they all answer it the same way: "you can't"
Jonathan's just says so in a bit more detail
 
@Drew Yes :P
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Drew said yes ^
 
i said maybe
i'm scared
 
user3956566
@Drew I'm trying to dig up the link LOL don't be scared, I'm doing four things at once, one of which includes watching tele, so I can't be too concerned :D
 
user3956566
@TylerH thanks
 
6:10 PM
@TylerH nevermind. OP is just *. For him I don't have to post an answer.
 
user3956566
this is kinda cute how it's worded
 
user3956566
> How do I find the "User" that cannot be found or what is causing this error?
 
Wait... are they talking about He-who-must-not-be-named?
I believe they simply need to press on their tatoo...
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad voldemort?
 
6:17 PM
Three galleons for @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW!
 
user3956566
how can anyone be scared of someone who has no nose?
 
I find answers like this annoying. If I just flag it NAA, the flag will get rejected, because although they say they have the same problem, they go on with what might be an answer. Or maybe just their own use case (which I think this one is).
 
@Mogsdad Apparently it's an actual answer
 
@Kyll Yep - glad I commented instead of flagging! Victory!
 
Maybe ask for clarification via an edit
 
6:24 PM
@Kyll It's like you're psychic. And disinterested enough to not read the comment I'd already added to the post.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I use PHP for a mechanism to get a secure data api's I create. Somewhat limited.
Mainly trying to spare Riz of the last misery he went thru with a question.
 
@Mogsdad .... No, I just figured that HTTPs Everywhere breaks SO's websockets
 
user3956566
@Drew thanks Drew, I've lost the link.
 
Because the WebSockets are not encrypted. Uh.
 
user3956566
6:37 PM
well you learn something new every day, it's ok to have multiple SE accounts, as long as they don't cross vote
 
Do y'all do that fancy cv format by hand??
 
ohh fancy fancy
And when it's closed I just leave it or..?
 
when the request is closed, just leave it. One of us RO's runs another script that finds all the completed requests and moves them
 
Word up
 
6:43 PM
"Please don't spam my answer with useless text." The farce is strong in this one.
 
@Mogsdad "Please don't spam our website with useless answers" .. The temptation.
 
Is such an answer NAA?
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad I had to comment, I really don't like it when people talk like that and it's better if it comes from a third party that you Mogs.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW you make me look like a terrible person lol
 
user3956566
@SterlingArcher why? Or maybe I don't want to know :D
 
6:46 PM
 
Because I was more than willing to return the snark
AND THEN HERE YOU COME with your... civilized post. Bah!
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Thanks for your support... but please, I'd rather nobody here did that. While I do think disrespect was intended, it means little to me given the source, so I'd let it slide, and focus on making the answer valuable.
@AlexanderO'Mara No, it is an answer. It's not a valuable answer, and could be deleted, but it's not flaggable.
I wouldn't waste delete votes on it, btw.
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad rude conduct needs to be addressed on the site. I understand your reasoning, but maybe you can also see mine?
 
user3956566
@SterlingArcher that always makes things worse. Water on the fire, not fire.
 
It's just a comment, not worth discussing. Gone.
 
6:50 PM
Undo to the rescue!
That rhymes, it counts as a poem
OK, new topic... Question: Should it be possible to vote to undelete your own post that has been delete-voted by others?
 
@Undo I remember when you were more fun... ;^)
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW but what if it's a grease fire!!!
 
user3956566
@Undo I was about to delete it myself, but it appears there's no room to discuss anything much beyond two lines here.
 
@Mogsdad bah, fun. ;)
 
user3956566
@SterlingArcher blanket? It's been a long time since I did a fire safety course :D
 
6:52 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW As long as it's wet!
 
user3956566
@DavidG and woolen not nylon!!!
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW there's actually a sciencey video somewhere on what happens when water is poured on a grease fire. It's terrifying.
Basically.. you run. lol
 
user3956566
@SterlingArcher :(
 
user3956566
@DavidG that does count as a poem, but frankly, I'm missing yours and @TimCastelijns's work.
 
6:56 PM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Answer my question and I'll write you one on the subject of your choice.
 
user3956566
@DavidG yes it should be ok to cast votes on your own posts.
 
@SterlingArcher More fun: frozen turkey into hot oil. youtube.com/watch?v=hQYTMFCLy5E
 
user3956566
Not that I feel strongly about it either way.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW But on my own posts, I already have an implicit reason to keep it undeleted, right?
 
user3956566
@DavidG yes, but don't forget an OP's vote on a duplicate closes it immediately? So there's got to be some give and take with that yes?
 
6:59 PM
> That chair was being overly dramatic
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Closing != Deleting, big difference imo
 
user3956566
@DavidG oh yes.. true. I don't mind..what do you think?
 

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