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00:00
@ᴉʞuǝ it is a rather low-effort question.
@cimmanon I agree, probably should have bypassed it. OP did make several edits in an attempt to clarify
its a good idea to think in terms of whether or not the question being asked will help future users. we know that they want to shrink the image and display a counter, but who is going to be searching for that exact problem?
I guess I didn't really consider that.
Good point.
@ᴉʞuǝ that is IMO too broad
@Braiam I'll steer clear of those ones from now on.
00:04
@Closey starting
@Undo May the Vote be with you!
so a question like "i am trying to resize an image... but i get an undefined variable exception" or something like that would be more useful
okay, in this case, would removing my answer make it easier to close/delete?
you cant now that it has been accepted
not worried about the points, would rather have a better community.
oh
now im that guy.... lol
00:07
i wouldnt worry about it unless you had a lot of answers to crappy questions :p
i think everyone here has answered at least one terrible question
I don't think so, most have them have been pretty decent questions.
I don't know too many good questions I ever answered
@Drew Not sure many Good questions exist these days
They were important to the OP. The importance pretty much ended there.
Isn't that the truth..
00:16
oh here we go self-vandie
triple comment (I deleted mine after I saw the 2 others).
01:07
@Drew Ok. So, newbie question.. Do I just review each one and vote to close/comment directly on the question? Or there's anything else?
Have you done normal closing under questions on questions pages before ?
@Drew Yes, I have. So I just review them as usual, as if I had found them directly on the Review section of the website?. I can do that :)
exactly. sorry. They are cv 2 and 3 as you know, and I put them together as the ones with the greatest negative vote more or less, assuming easy consideration or whatnot. But I have not looked at them so none of that really matters.
Since they have a ways to go to get closed, the easier the better for cv2. I usually point 2 people at them, see how they shake out, and add my votes if necessary. Or someone else comes along. But, as you know, we are on our own.
Got it. thanks.
So, we are making no assumption that they are awful. They may be wonderful.
But realistically they didn't get here on a winning streak.
01:17
by the way, some mods like Madara would prefer and I think we do too ... to try to salvage anything and not just go thru wreaking them.
But basically no different than if you found them. So be you.
Yes, I always try to go easy on first questions or questions that are awful but have answers that seemed to work.
We all have quite varied opinions on it.
But these are probably unlike your normal finding thing off of page 1 and 2. These are rather set in stone after a few days up to 15 days
As such, the conversation is mostly over :P
I suppose. And its even harder if you don't talk with other reviewers, just like I didn't. But for instance, this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/35172165 for me is evidently close-worthy. No effort whatsoever on even explaining the problem.
But this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/35174656 has at least some effort explaining and even a useful answer. I voted close as 'cannot be longer reproduced' anyway.
Anyway. I'll try to do my best.
Sam
Sam
And feel free to ask away here if you need any help.
I think the question is barely answerable until the second comment. Then he expands it. It means anyone answering that is going to be tortured. I would go unclear or too broad
but that is me
01:26
stackoverflow.com/questions/34569226/… me, raining on peoples' parades since 2016
Also it doesn't help he went the picture route.
I should learn hieroglyphs... just to answer those questions that put everything in pictures. Write the answer in hieroglyphs.
Yeah, even the source code snippet is an image. :(
what do you need markdown for..
Some people here say pictures or links don't count. In that case what is left?
But the guy is new
pictures of code or errors dont count
01:37
most of us aren't designers so yeah
to me pictures of data don't count. I would say jam it in sqlfiddle or give text. Because I am probably going to hand type it to show you an answer.
what about photographic evidence of an error? :) stackoverflow.com/questions/35056740
If someone has trouble with a chart library, code as code and the messed up chart as picture is fine. It's when the code shows up as a picture unnecessarily that it gets frustrating. As much as possible, when I answer a question, I like to copy and paste the MCVE to a) replicate the problem, b) edit it towards a solution.
I have no problem with photo evidence of an error. Basically a problem with the laziness that makes what could be simple becoming utter drudgery.
Every reviewer is different. Also, what mood they are in.
I'm off, cya all.
cya @Louis
later Louis
Sam
Sam
Cya
@Drew I'm done with the questions from the excel sheet. Where did you get that list from? What kind of search? where? etc. I suppose that's what moderation tools are for (I have no access yet). I'm asking so I can proactively do that kind of reviews without you having to upload a spreadsheet.
02:12
spam / declined -- stackoverflow.com/a/34857070/1454538 service requires payment.. is this not spam? Exists only to promote a product or service
Or I can just keep reviewing the Review queues on the site..
@Sam could you run Sergio thru the paces of such things as high level Tampermonkey, the Tiny Request queue of posting, etc
Sam
Sam
Sure
@SergioAcosta Do you have tampermonkey installed?
(I'm assuming you're using Chrome.)
I'm using chrome. No, I don't have tampermonkey. is it something like greasemonkey?
installing the extension..
Tampermonkey installed.
user3956566
\o
Sam
Sam
02:23
@SergioAcosta yeah, for userscripts
Ok, head over to here.
And... ugh, I always forget which script it is.
@MsYvette o/
@Drew Isn't the tag filter script under Tiny's repo?
the one to the /custom ?
the one that creates a "fake queue" ?
yeah. That one was left in a state that was unstable or something for me. Plus as you might know I don't like the queue data which is why I ... ah ... am not really answering Sergio's question above
Because that is not a day 1 question :P
Sam
Sam
@Drew oh
I thought it was stable.
It kept re-presenting for me. Plus I don't use queue data.
02:33
Ok, so I added the Tiny-Giant script to tampermonkey..
I can answer it for now this way, Sergio. If you want to spend 50 cv a day, you will not be without finding a place to cast that vote here.
and now when I go to 'Reviews' in stackoverflow.com I see a new category on top, called 'Magic™ Tag Review'
Concentrated tag review with options to filter by close votes or delete votes.
But the thing is, under certain tags we bucket them for concentrated effect. Otherwise we spread our votes across too many and are in trouble
user4639281
@SergioAcosta Don't use it with javascript, or if you do, get your own API key, the same goes for any other really large tags.
Sam
Sam
And then there's also a script for bringing up cv-plzs which haven't been closed yet. github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/…
user4639281
02:37
@Drew I recently updated the Magic Tag Review script, should be pretty stable now, and it has inline editing.
ok, I see.
@TinyGiant ok. I don't use that system tho.
user4639281
You were the reason I wrote it in the first place.
user4639281
You and Ms Yvette
Sam
Sam
Lol
user4639281
02:38
Though, I do use it a lot now, it has come in very handy
user4639281
I recently wrote this one for enhancing review of your own close votes (on the close votes tab of your own profile).
The problem is that it goes against queue data. Therein lies the problem. But I'm not going there again now.
Just listening to some fun music
user4639281
What do you mean it goes against the queue data?
user4639281
You mean that other questions which have been "left open" from the queue are shown using that script?
user3956566
02:55
Can I get some reviewers to approve the reasoning tag wiki and excerpt please. I am removing questions that are inappropriately tagged with it. the current definition reads like a cogsci tag.
user4639281
@MsYvette righteous
user3956566
@TinyGiant you like? :D
user3956566
I'm taking this time of no work and no uni to do some improvements here
user4639281
@MsYvette much better than the honeypot definition of the previous wiki
user3956566
@TinyGiant it read like a psychology tag.. LOL and people were using it to add questions about their programming logic
user3956566
03:01
sd edited
user3956566
thank God for the magic editing tool @Mogsdad :D
user4639281
> Is my reasoning reasonable?
user3956566
@TinyGiant exactly! and that type of question is off topic! The answer is Go to a shrink LOLOLOLOLOL
user4639281
A: NO! You're completely unreasonable! This question is unreasonable! Your expectation of this site is unreasonable!
user3956566
03:04
@Tushar congratulations my dear :D
user4639281
@Tushar congratz, I got that one a couple days ago.
user3956566
@TinyGiant I would star that, but we gave @gunr2171 and @NathanOliver a run for their money last night (my time) starring trains and then starring their objections to starring trains!!!! LOLOLOL
Thank you :)
user4639281
You woke him, run and hide
Woke me, I was always here!
user4639281
03:06
Well sure, but that doesn't mean you're always awake, even rene reviews in his sleep.
true, I don't have that skill
user3956566
@gunr2171 hehehe! well I am being disrespectfully respectful by not starring things that are off-topic, but by baking you in the process :P
user3956566
Ok I'm going to review questions in the and either CV or remove the tag accordingly in preparation for our fire
I'm out, bed. please don't burn this place down while I'm gone.
user4639281
03:15
@gunr2171 We won't burn it down.
user4639281
@Tushar It is a programming question, just too broad.
user3956566
@gunr2171 \o
user3956566
I should've just asked for someone to go through the review queue under the reasoning tag doh!
so, I was using the editor helper script to clean a meta post... seems that the entire thing was pointless
user3956566
@Braiam bahahahaha
03:34
@Rob I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Rob passed a audit!
Rob passed a audit!
Rob
Rob
@Nordehinu stop
@Rob You've reviewed 40 posts today (2 of which were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 12 minutes, averaging to a review every 18 seconds.
user3956566
03:51
@TinyGiant I'm reviewing the and there will be posts in the Review queue to be reviewed at some stage
user3956566
When tags are being burned, who puts the notice on the tag wiki not to use it?
user4639281
Whoever feels like doing it usually. If it is a small enough tag then it may not be needed
user3956566
04:20
any reviews on it would be good.
Rob
Rob
04:52
@sd postgone
Why
chemical imbalance
There's a timeout, not sure how long it is.
oh, I thought he meant that guy
2 minutes
Rob
Rob
Ah, that would explain it then
thanks :)
05:05
@rob do you have a cv on the following and if not wanna go 4 5 ? stackoverflow.com/questions/35126805
Rob
Rob
All my votes are gone again, sorry
thx T man
05:24
!!/alive
@intboolstring You doubt me?
user3956566
05:34
I need some reviews on this tag edit as it's getting rejected. thanks
Ok I just rejected it. Any others ?
user3956566
nothing outstanding thanks. It doesn't show you rejecting it?
I wouldn't do that to ya msYv
user3956566
oh sorry, hard to get the jest online :D I'm a busy bee today
user3956566
oh and thanks
user3956566
05:53
ok so the has 63 questions, and all should have at least one close vote. Feel free to remove checklist tag if you think they're on topic.
user3956566
^^ see soon to be deleted answer
user3956566
> thnx i found the solution my self. every thing in my code is correct and working the only mistake i was making was my model objects. i unintentionally add static with objects which was creating problem
user3956566
^^ see comment
06:27
^^ Choose any option to close.
Looks like spam too
07:09
Hello All
user3956566
07:30
very happy I solve this. It took a few days, on and off.
user3956566
that was driving me crazy and if I had a job to do in it, would want to be able to solve it.
user3956566
Also SO is reinstating my rep from my previous account so will hope to have 10k sooner than later. @KevinGuan :D
user3956566
@PraveenKumar \o
07:47
Morning o/
user3956566
\o
08:07
Morning \o
@CodeCaster pretty nice Meta post!
Hiya o/
@Tunaki Err, approved by mistake
Any way to revoke that
Nope.
08:26
Hi o/
Hi o/
Hi 0/
@kayess thanks! And now it's closed.
@CodeCaster It shouldn't be closed for that reason :p
i voted for reopen
08:30
Thanks. It's always the same users closing discussions. Do I not ask for input?
@user1803551 Did you accept that suggested-edit I posted earlier?
from what i remember, you get a lot of slack for trying to take the site in the right direction
Morning. o/
The first comment after posting that question was "not this shit again" and a downvote
Yeah sorry for pointing out an issue that the community has been pointing out for years and which still hasn't been solved
This question is asking if and how we can solve it. Don't see why that is off-topic
Reflag please... Editing a NAA getting accepted and clearing ALL flags...: stackoverflow.com/a/35194906/1743880
08:34
By the way, morning all. :P
annd it's gone
Great. Thanks @CodeCaster
Morning o/
@CodeCaster Hey o/
08:36
@Tunaki it seems so
@CodeCaster I see, sad. However Makoto's first comment is that I agree with 100%
That was the comment I meant. :P
@user1803551 Such edits should be rejected. When an edit is made, all pending flags are cleared. That means the post goes out of the VLQ review queue and lingers there for eternity...
Problem is 100k rep users acting as if it's their first day on SO
Take this for example
This site is not mobile-friendly, I'm flagging or starring all messages I want to reply to :P
08:39
@Tunaki i vote on edits according to the edit, not according to the close votes. if you want ti can look at the question again and cast a CV if needed, the fact that votes are cleared is a mechanism the site should change if it's not fitting
@Kitler Waffles
syrup :O
@user1803551 What I'm saying is that it was not a question but an answer (and that answer was "Not an Answer"). There's only answers in the VLQ review queue.
Yeah why would you post an answer like that at 160K...
btw codecaster, i think that makoto is too content with the current situation. i see a lot of times how he disagrees with any change for better or worse. i'm not a meta-animal but that's what i observed
08:42
I really don't know. I've been around the web long enough to think I can predict where a community is going.
@CodeCaster It kind of annoys me that this question will be roomba'd and they'd even get their rep back.
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And I don't think this looks good, especially with the sentiment on meta
@Tunaki ok, so that answer should be removed regardless of accept or reject of the edit
Hi @Madara o/
@user1803551 That's the thing. When accepting the edit, the post goes out of the queue, the current flags are cleared and post will not be deleted. Someone else would have to stumble this NAA and flag it again to start the whole process again ;)
08:44
Anyway thanks for the ping, off to work now.
I would vote to reopen if I could..
@CodeCaster How many re-open votes are left on the meta Q?
@Tunaki i understand, but that's a problem with the site. i don't check every edit for all its side effects. i will try to investigate a bit more in the future, but i can't circumvent all the site's quirks. if the answer is still there i can vote/flag it
@Thaillie codecaster's Q has 4 reopen votes
Waffle
Good morning, Tunaki.
Hope you'll have a nice day.
Plop everyone!
08:50
A good ninja to start the day.
Hiya o/
Hiya o/
PHP people, is this a tool rec?
> 8,000 helpful flags
6
YAY \o/
throws lots of waffles in the air for everybody
@Kyll Based on "I don't want to reinvent the wheel" I would say yes.
@Tunaki and not a single star was given that day
Just kidding!
Congrats, Tuna munches munches
08:54
@Tunaki Guess you are in the top 10 of the "most flaggers" :D
@Tunaki Congratulations! \o/
Tunaki unlocked: Flame-thrower
@Kyll lol
Would be fun if they gave privileges for amount of helpful flags:p
They do, you have more available flags.
08:57
they feed the addiction
Yep. Then it caps to 100.
I don't think a hundred flags is nearly enough to provide a good fix to Tuna
they should give these people a badge "Flagster"
Would be fun if they made a badge for it, just something like the votes badge with >25% on questions and 600 or more votes :p
More than Xk flags with >99.5% helpful. That'd be nice.
09:01
What about a gold badge for every 2.5k helpful flags with more than 99% helpful?
I'll let you ask Meta :p (do come back alive)
@Kyll That would be ideal :p
@Tunaki I will!
Afk for a bit. Cleaning my table.
We didn't know back then, but that would be the last time Bhargav would ever be heard from. Man-eating tables just became a thing.
Is there a leaderboard of flaggers? If not, is this possible with SEDE ninja skillz?
09:08
@Tunaki Congrats!, you do not need more badges you already have our respect for the contribution you make.....
@Drew I've looked through the questions. Have voted for closing for the most of them.
\o/
09:31
@Kyll Can't find one, so we have to wait rene the SEDE ninja :p
I don't think the number of flags is kept in SEDE, I looked it up once.
@Thaillie It'd be nice to have some kinda query to show the top flaggers with more than 99.5% helpful flags
Yay Australia's here!
@MsYvette o/
@MsYvette \o
@MsYvette \o/
09:33
@kayess Is Aussie short for Australian or Austrian?
@Kyll Australian
@MadaraUchiha Okay, thanks
user3956566
Australian @Kyll
Is it pejorative in any way?
user3956566
Nope
09:34
nein
Very well, thanks
@Kyll yep
user3956566
Aussie == Australian*colloquialism
@Thaillie one. :P
user3956566
09:42
@CodeCaster which meta Q?
The one that was in the Hot Meta Posts sidebar until some illiterate people voted to close it
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Q: Can we care a little more about quality instead of quantity, please?

CodeCasterStack Overflow is about answers: answers -- truly brilliant, amazing, correct answers -- are as rare as pearls. Thus, questions are merely the sand that produces the pearl. The most brilliant answers don't necessarily help the asker, but will at least teach OP and later visitors something:...

triblebox
but please, read it first ;) don't reopen 'cause it's me
That was a little to much one box D:
it's reopen.
user3956566
that was funny the double one box
user3956566
09:44
@CodeCaster On the title alone +1 and voted to reopen. I couldn't agree more
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Well, back to work it is. Thanks anyway, I'll see what comes of that post!
user3956566
@CodeCaster no worries
@KevinGuan
Hey Kev Kev o/
09:48
@MsYvette Wow, 7k. Congrats! (But I have almost 9k anyway :P)
user3956566
@KevinGuan I've had 7k for a while.
user3956566
and yeh your rep will always end up greater than mine.. I was happy to tell you :D
Hiya o/
@MsYvette Ah, I didn't check the result which generated by my script carefully. Congrats anyway :D
However, little busy today. Because the new year in China is just two days later. Everyone is ready for the Chinese New Year.
@CodeCaster it isn't fixed by Peter yet, no support from me ...
09:54
rene \o/
user3956566
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
@MsYvette You already said it :D
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
09:56
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
@KevinGuan enjoy :D
Great, an endless loop.
@Kyll I got the better of the table :D
Now I have a old CRT monitor, What can I do with that?
@BhargavRao Play old games?
09:58
@BhargavRao A nice projectile
I have only the monitor, I cleaned up the CPU yesterday and connected it to my TV (for display)

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