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12:09 AM
@mickmackusa now eligible for del-pls
 
12:27 AM
@Nick I am r/a or the question is?
 
@mickmackusa well... in this case I was referring to the question :)
 
...phew
 
12:48 AM
@Makyen I see.
@Makyen Oh, sorry about that.
 
1:30 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica That post will roomba, there's no need for a del-pls. Also, "Lacks minimal understanding" is not a reason to close/delete a post anyway.
 
@cigien Not for closing, but there's not really an agreed-upon list of reasons for deleting
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I didn't say anything about Standard reasons. I'm just saying I don't think the level of understanding of the OP has anything to do with deleting a post, and so it isn't a reason to delete it.
 
2:10 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Yeah, we're not going to support that reason. It's one that's specifically been removed as a reason to close, which makes it not a reason to use for deleting. If you still feel that question should be deleted now and that a del-pls is something you feel is appropriate, then repost with a reason which reflects why it should be deleted now, not one which has been explicitly removed.
 
2:24 AM
@Makyen fair enough
I'm pretty sure that this is a dupe of something. Anyone who's less rusty in C++ have any suggestions of a target?
I may have picked the wrong one
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Yeah, I found one that I think is appropriate. I would hammer it, but the c++ tag got yanked out from the post. That's been happening a lot recently :(
 
 
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4:03 AM
I hope everyone had a good easter!
 
 
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5:12 AM
Is this on-topic?
 
@cigien I guess installing a Windows service is borderline. Can also be on SU. Depends a bit on usage which stack is more appropriate. On the other hand, I suspect there are details missing here - it's just a "doesn't work" with an output dump. I'm not anywhere near an expert but shouldn't there at least be what command was used? Maybe any other details, too.
In sort of related news, the answer links to "NSSM - the Non-Sucking Service Manager". This is a glorious name :D
 
@VLAZ Yeah, it's a clever name :) I actually came upon the answer, and was wondering if it was NAA, so I looked at the question, and realized I had no idea what it's asking. I'm not even sure it's on-topic, but you're right, even if it is, it's probably lacking some details.
 
5:28 AM
@SurajRao @cigien how is "integrating the Xero API with an application" not a programming question? You could call it too broad, sure, but it sounds like a programming problem to me...
 
according to question body they are looking for a freelancer...
 
@Nick Did you see the question body?
^ can we also flag for terrible formatting?
 
@Nick Yes, but the OP appears to be looking for a developer to help them out with the programming, rather than programming help.
 
@VLAZ there is an SE site for spam improvements: Spam Review
 
5:50 AM
@cigien @VLAZ yeah, ok, on second reading it is asking for human help, not code. Ignore my previous comment
 
🤷‍♀️ what comment? Don't know what you're talking about.
 
:)
 
6:51 AM
Anybody ever tried to explain something to a new user and that chat descend into name calling and other pettiness? chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/230783/…
 
@mickmackusa rather regularly; but it's a drag when it happens, and a shame
 
@tripleee such a waste of my time. Ugh.
 
7:14 AM
@tripleee are you out of close votes?
 
just slow (-:
 
Is the Unclosed Request Review script broken?
 
@user692942 works for me, 2.1.0
@yivi also, not a programming question
 
7:39 AM
i.stack.imgur.com/fle9A.png could it be the username breaking it?
 
@user692942 you want tagged/cv-pls
though hm, it works for me with tagged/cv too
 
@tripleee Yeah I think that just filter all cv requests
Think the weird unicode username is screwing the script over.
 
Good morning
 
@user692942 I don't see any unusually weird Unicode, just regular ASCII; but I'm not able to filter on that user name - can you share the search link?
 
7:46 AM
@user692942 works fine here, albeit no results i.stack.imgur.com/2WHef.png
 
Yeah just looked in devtools and get this error -

Syntax error @ "Unclosed Request Review Script"!
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JSHINT output:
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SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<'
at eval (<anonymous>)
at <anonymous>:3:100
at Object.N [as F_c] (<anonymous>:2:148)
at Object.E_u (<anonymous>:3:274)
at Ka (eval at exec_fn (:1:157), <anonymous>:61:375)
at Object.create (eval at exec_fn (:1:157), <anonymous>:73:235)
at L (eval at exec_fn (:1:157), <anonymous>:12:208)
 
@mickmackusa easier to just delete the question...
 
it hides one I already visited but I can expose that one just fine as well
 
@Nick We agree.
 
@tripleee yeah your not seeing the same view as me likely due to this user breaking the script.
 
7:50 AM
@mickmackusa I guess it's like that infinite number of monkeys typing :)
 
@Nick I don't follow your reference, but I like monkeys.
...and typing
 
@mickmackusa eventually they'll come up with the complete works of Shakespeare...
... and you and I will agree! :)
 
According to this post, wrong/dangerous answers should not be flagged for moderation.
The other day, I found this question and this answer which happens to be wrong/dangerous (run composer as root, which is highly discouraged for security reasons) and which got edited to hide the original text, and deleted by a moderator.
 
hmmm yeah, I can repro by searching for "msgbox fullscreen"
 
There are 3 more answers to this question which suggest the same (run as root) and I flagged them (my bad) and my flags were declined, which I understand. But my question is: why do some answers get deleted by mods when the rule is that mods should not take any action on wrong/dangerous answers? And is there anything else that can/should be done on these duplicate/dangerous answers aside from down-voting?
 
7:53 AM
but closing that and trying again fixes it for me
 
(if you think my question should be for Meta, just let me know)
 
@tripleee weird I get that error the minute I search in SO Close Vote Reviewers
 
@MrUpsidown the answer was deleted after having being edited into uselessness; not sure if that's the correct action to take, but at least this is not straight apples to apples
@user692942 I guess maybe if you visit the offending post it will no longer wreck your search results ...?
 
@tripleee I've just updated Chrome to 89.0.4389.114 I wonder if that might be it?
 
@tripleee, not sure either that this was the appropriate action because that would mean that if I edit the other answers to some useless content like I got rid of this because it is wrong then a mod might/would delete it afterwards (?).
I understand that any answer that really is an attempt at answering the question must be considered an answer, even if it's bad or dangerous. But having multiple, equaly wrong and/or dangerous answers to the same question and having to let them live their life is a bit counterproductive IMO.
 
8:28 AM
@Nick indeed. on the way to Shakespeare we'll need to throw away a lot of drafts.
 
8:39 AM
Don't get this, it seems to be moaning about a JSON parsing issue in the Tampermonkey script generation, really weird SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<'.
Other userscripts are working fine though, it's just the Unclosed Request Review Script.
 
9:12 AM
this answer is fully copied from blog.logrocket.com/… (Using React.lazy()) , how do you handle this type of answer?
 
How do we close vote questions where they dont even try these days? stackoverflow.com/q/66956872/1841839 This is the second question by this guy in two days. Same format.
 
@DaImTo It's not necessary for the OP to have tried something. But such questions might need focus (although not necessarily). An MCVE is only necessary in case of debugging questions.
 
@DaImTo but.... you answered it...
 
It just seems really broad to me, and then he asked another one. It feels a lot like do my work for me
 
@DaImTo Those are usually simply duplicates. There is not a close reason for it. It calls for a down-vote though. Check the duplicate I offered. Your answer seems pretty similar to the one there...
 
9:20 AM
@Tomerikoo retag the question with Google-api and i will gold hammer close it as a duplicate.
his second question is more how to load a memory stream but im not convinced the library supports that.
 
@DaImTo "opinion-based" really? more focus maybe
 
@tripleee There is no documentation as to how youtube sorts the videos any answer would be opinion based check the answer that's there already they admit its just an opinion. Unless that is a Googler responded and in ten years i have never seen anyone from that team posting on SO, nore have i actually had any content with that team they are very obscure.
 
but that doesn't make the question itself opinion-based; they are asking how it's being done, not about our opinion about how it's probably being done
if they suddenly open-source their implementation, how can that change whether the question is opinion-based?
 
@tripleee I think we are arguing language semantics here but IMO "How does YouTube sort this?" is opinion based unless there is some documentation which states exactly how YouTube sorts it which again there isn't.
 
9:44 AM
@EsTeAa Comment to the OP and either edit the post or mod-flag. I decided to edit because it seems helpful and related to the question so I just added the proper attribution. Check my edit to see how it should be
 
@Tomerikoo I think so , edit the answer is better than make it as NAA, cause it is a useful answer, though it has copied from another resource
 
10:24 AM
if you have a hard time using up your close votes, I just submitted some really old duplicates and other trivial stuff to the close vote queue in the tag ... looks like I can't link directly to that but visit stackoverflow.com/review/close, add [sed] to your filter, and go
 
10:42 AM
What would people do without
 
@JeanneDark looks more like R/A
 
@desertnaut I don't disagree
@desertnaut The reason I just suggested "off-topic" is this old discussion. Based on this request (but I can't see deleted posts, so I'm not sure)
 
@Tomerikoo was just about to post a request for this :)
 
@desertnaut haha I just got the 2 days reminder. Guess you did the same ;)
 
@Tomerikoo nope - I am watching manually some Qs :(
 
10:51 AM
Oh haha me too. I play around between following questions and just putting the cv userscript reminders
 
11:20 AM
Ping?
 
12:14 PM
Interesting tag:
 
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Floern, @double-beep
 
12:30 PM
I guess I have me question answered now - it was deleted as spam.
 
@JeanneDark Thanks.
 
Anyone any idea what could be causing this on the chat search using the Unclosed Request Review userscript? Just updated Chrome to latest version, other scripts run fine.
 
Regarding closing an Answer (a question posted as an answer) - Voted to close an answer from the Low Quality Answers Review Queue and it was (from Answer Revision History) subsequently "Deleted From Review" a couple of days ago; the author then undeleted it (8 hours ago); Thought of posting it here as I am unable to flag it (Flagged the answer at the time of the review, thus - "You have already raised this type of flag")
 
12:33 PM
@Nimantha This happens sometimes. I usually don't bother posting a flag-pls request since such behavior raises an automatic flag.
What flags are automatically raised by the system? ("Post was undeleted by the author: after deletion by review votes, the author cast an undelete vote")
 
lol
 
Maybe we should add f, x and q?
 
It's fun to ask at the YMCA
 
Meh - OP has fixed it.
 
1:06 PM
"fixed" it
 
It was PHP all along ... what else?
 
First time adding the PHP tag fixes something
 
hehe
 
@JeanneDark why did you make a cv-pls on this post? There might be some internal reason to the tool we don't know about, the symptoms seem clear enough - a discrepancy between 2 modes of execution for the same code fragment.
 
@bad_coder What code fragment? That is the question.
 
1:11 PM
I agree
 
@AdrianMole it's a tool, if they asked why PyCharm debugger takes 10 times longer than a regular execution of the same code that would make a valid question without a concrete MRE.
 
If it's about a tool for which the code isn't shown (or even modifiable), then it's about "General Software." If it's about user's code, then that code must be shown.
 
@AdrianMole As usual your definition is wrong, there's a million on-topic questions about configurations and definitions out there.
@JeanneDark I don't believe for a second that you have enough subject matter expertise to even know what that question was about.
 
Lighthouse sucks. There's too much black box magic, it's not very useful as performance metrics go.
OP should just fill a bug report about the inconsistency of the values shown.
Well, there's already a report. github.com/GoogleChrome/lighthouse/issues/11275
 
@Braiam coming from you and your posting trackrecord on networking I take that as a valuable insight. You CV has a ton of credibility.
 
@bad_coder You don't need to thank me for my insight :D
 
1:47 PM
I guess this does answer the question, so isn't NAA.
 
@DavidBuck Why I'm not surprised the question is closed :D
 
@bad_coder Thank you
 
@DavidBuck Huh, I guess you're right...
 
@Braiam I let the OP know. Thanks for taking the trouble of doing the search, I lost count of how may times I've gone through GitHub tracking down a bug...
 
Is it condescending for someone to assume that you downvoted and ask you not to?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica IMO no. Condescending is something else, in that case the OP is trying to defend themselves as best they can.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I flag as NLN. No real need to discuss voting in comments.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica It's not constructive. Just flag it as no longer needed and move on.
 
2:01 PM
Good to know
I suppose that the OP isn't being belligerent about it, so NLN seems merited
 
if you happen to already be engaged I guess you can link them to meta.stackoverflow.com/q/388686 if you really feel like it
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I usually respond with a link to the meta Why shouldn't I assume I know who downvoted my post?. I don't think it's condescending, it's just people taking votes really personal.
 
2:27 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica We delete dozens of those every day
@DaImTo Might be better to suggest Webmasters for those. They do handle GA questions
 
flag flag flag
I mean, yes, NLN.
 
@E_net4thedownvoter What happened to your other 97?
 
@AdrianMole All used up on comments complaining about downvotes.
 
2:50 PM
@Machavity yeah theres a question on meta about what to do with these types of questions. web apps or meta it could be either really. If your interested meta.stackoverflow.com/q/406188/1841839
 
"Google support is directing us to use this forum."
 
3:21 PM
I expect there will be more low-quality questions heading our way in the future... cnn.com/2021/04/06/tech/yahoo-answers-shutting-down-trnd/…
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We can avoid more low-quality questions very easily: just lower the bar that separates low-quality questions. Simples!
 
@AdrianMole Why does this reminds me of "we are testing too much!"?
 
@Turing85 It's like that incoming finance manager of a train company who reduced the amount of revenue lost through unpaid fares by 50% overnight. ... He cut all the fares in half!
 
3:36 PM
Should this be closed as something? if so what. stackoverflow.com/q/66913349/1841839
 
@AdrianMole It almost sounds like a fair idea, but maybe he needs more training...
 
3:59 PM
 
4:10 PM
 
@user692942 That the username in the page contains Zalgo text isn't going to cause an error, or, at least, not the one which you're seeing. You've stated which browser you're using, but we also need to know: which userscript manager version are you using (it appears you're using Tampermonkey, but that's a bit of an assumption), and the version of the URRS which you're using.
Have you tried deleting and re-installing the userscript?
@MrUpsidown It's indeterminate as to why the moderator chose to delete that. You would need to ask on Meta to get an answer from the moderator who did delete. In this specific case, I can see that answer being deleted as a marginal Not An Answer. In all revisions, that answer doesn't actually explain how to resolve the issue. It provides hints and generalities, like 'simply use "sudo"', but doesn't actually explain what one should do to solve the problem in the question.
@DaImTo Asking for a question to be retagged in order to permit you to dup-hammer is not permitted here in SOCVR. Please see: FAQ #17.
 
4:30 PM
 
4:56 PM
Before chatting here, wear a mask
 
@EsTeAa For some of the room owners regulars in here, a muzzle would be better than a mask. xD
 
6:09 PM
 
mck
6:41 PM
It's really frustrating when you can't use your hammer because you're out of CVs...
 
@mck There is at least one way to get unlimited CVs, you know...
 
6:53 PM
@VLAZ Unlimited 3k+-rep sock-puppets?
But it would be a nice 'gesture' to give users an extra 10 daily CVs each time they earn a Mjolnir.
 
@AdrianMole I was thinking of growing a beard then training a genetically engineered army of hamsters in the art of ninjitsu. Then send them over to SE HQ to slowly replace the hamsters powering the servers. Once they've taken over, they use their genetically engineered brains to cybertelepathically flip the bits in the correct pattern in order to give you an ever lasting supply of CVs.
 
Sounds highly plausible ... except for the bit about growing a beard.
 
The beard is essential to the plan. If you get discovered, you shave it and the hamsters would not recognise you.
 
Lemon juice works, you know.
 
6:58 PM
I think squirting lemon juice in their eyes is kind of cruel.
 
 
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8:02 PM
@tripleee yeah, not sure you can do this anymore via the URL since they revamped the review queues. @Makyen may know more though
 
8:16 PM
 
@TylerH @tripleee Yes, direct links to filtered review queues still work the same way. For example, the filtered close-vote queue is https://stackoverflow.com/review/close/28697786?filter-tags=sed.
I'd should probably also mention that if you're using the URRS, it will automatically open the review queue filtered to the tag you click on when you click using whatever modifier-key & mouse-button combination you've set in the URRS' options popup under "General options" -> "Tag click opens filtered CVQ. Set: is: <the key-button combination you used when clicking on the 'click here' button>".
You can open the URRS' options popup with the "⚙" button in the chat user input bar, or 'options (edit "tags" list)' button in the search/review UI.
 
8:36 PM
:51936268 tp-
 
9:44 PM
 
 
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11:07 PM
@Dharman I promise I won't hold it against anyone who casts the final delete vote on that one!
 
Why would you hold it against someone?
 
I wrote the accepted answer so I can't bring myself to cast the last vote...
 
If you want to keep that answer of yours, feel free to add it to the canonical. But we already have the exact same one...
You should keep the reputation anyway
 
Both are true but I still don't want to delete it myself
 

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