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2:03 AM
Hmm. Just wondering what would happen if you told a compiler to inline a function that calls itself recursively. Guess I should stop reading/responding to comments in the wee small hours. ;(
 
2:28 AM
@AdrianMole It's nearly certain that the answer to that is: "it depends".
 
 
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5:25 AM
After posted the comment, OP edited their answer, (now this is not NAA) but the link belongs to OP's article. What to do in this situation?
 
6:11 AM
@EsTeAa You can leave a comment telling them that they need to disclose affiliation (something like the one I just left). If they don't edit their post after a reasonable amount of time, you can raise a mod flag explaining that the post contains undisclosed affiliation.
 
Regretfully, I used a less than awesome dupe target. In retrospect, it should have been closed as an off-topic: Typo. stackoverflow.com/q/66948729/2943403 No real use to SO.
 
@cigien Actually I am not sure what to in this situation, so I bring it here, (without the link the answer is fine) I just read your comment there. So if the link article will belongs to the OP, then the answer will consider as spam?
 
@EsTeAa It depends. If the link is irrelevant to the question, it can simply be edited out (though I would suggest doing that only if you have full editing privileges). If it's their only such post linking to their content I wouldn't personally consider it spam, and would give them the opportunity to add in disclosure. Do note that in any case you shouldn't raise a spam flag, since it's not obviously spam. You can always raise a custom flag explaining the situation.
 
6:34 AM
@cigien thank a lot :)
 
np
 
7:08 AM
It's been a long day, do we flag answers that just point to another SO question as NAA?
 
@Nick You mean link-only answers?
 
Code in answer is just a copy of the accepted answer in the linked question
 
@JeanneDark There's not much of an answer to that. I'm not enough of an SME to know if it's a duplicate, so I guess I'll just leave it with the comment that I left.
 
@Nick I would definitely not flag it as NAA because I'd expect the flag to be declined. It's not link-only and without context one has to assume it actually answers the question.
 
7:24 AM
@JeanneDark fair enough, I'll leave as is. Thanks for your input.
 
 
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8:38 AM
this is not NAA?
 
looks like an answer
 
@JeanneDark thank you
 
 
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10:34 AM
Is this forecast to roomba? stackoverflow.com/q/66702249/2943403
 
this answer posted as community wiki
 
@mickmackusa Yes, in 6 days
 
11:19 AM
I am troubled as to what (if anything) I should do with the accepted answer here: stackoverflow.com/questions/13033270/… Editing to include the code would be unfair for the other existing answer; editing to point to the other answer would make it seem just like a NAA. Plus, I don't want to be disrespectful, as respondent Wes McKinney is the pandas creator. Any ideas?
In any case, it does look line a comment to me (hence like NAA).
 
11:33 AM
@desertnaut Ask for merge.
@Tomerikoo stop targeting my edits.
 
@Braiam What? How is it not about gzip?
 
@Tomerikoo If the question said "xz", it would be about xz?
Just because it has a keyword, doesn't mean that is relevant to the topic.
 
It literally asks how to save something as gzip, and uses the gzip library...
 
The compression format is irrelevant, the interesting thing is the function that converts it to said format.
@Tomerikoo Same question, if it said xz, lzma, zip, rar, etc. would the tag be relevant?
 
@Braiam I'm well aware of that. In this case, the question is literally about that...
 
11:39 AM
@Tomerikoo No, if I ask exactly the same thing, but change gzip to xz, how experts versed in the xz library be interested in that?
They may don't know python or pandas, they will be shown a question without means to answer it.
 
That's why the Python tag is there as well...
 
@Tomerikoo Which I was very tempted to remove too.
But leave as it in case someone would have the crazy idea of streaming the csv through a library for compression.
 
@Braiam single-tag searches are not the whole story; I can easily imagine a situation where someone searches the tags combined. In this sense, the tag is clearly relevant; I am restoring it cc @Tomerikoo
 
12:26 PM
@desertnaut I dream of getting 20 upvotes on an answer... that's really depressing
 
@Nick yeah... :(
 
@desertnaut People don't search tags, they put their search in search engines that look at all keywards.
 
I search tags
 
The only one that "search tags" are people looking to close questions
@JeanneDark Hence ^ ;)
 
@Braiam well, I search tags - of my own answers for that matter, but still a valid case
 
12:28 PM
 
@desertnaut Again, you are the exception, not the rule.
Our specific workflow is very uncommon, we aren't the main users of tags. Answerers are.
 
@Braiam I am afraid not; if I had answered that (among some 100s of and questions), I want to be able to locate it using the - which I claim is indeed a legitimate use for tags
@Nick someone upvoted the answer 1 minute ago... :(
 
Must've been someone from this room ;)
 
@desertnaut just looked at the timeline... it's been going steadily up its entire life. I guess a lot of people leave off the (x)...
 
@desertnaut You just made me realize that's the only situation I use multiple tags.
 
12:35 PM
@Nick indeed, and this should explain its popularity
 
Or someone has created a sock-puppet army...
 
12:57 PM
Does this count as Needs details or clarity? stackoverflow.com/q/66822479/13552470
 
1:09 PM
@AnnZen Details or clarity / Focus / Debugging details...
 
@Tomerikoo I see.
I thought code only was valid...
 
@AnnZen the important part is the "identical to existing answer", not the "code-only" one
 
I noticed :)
 
1:24 PM
Hmm. That's spam but someone has edited out the spam. Flag anyway?
 
Spam should not be edited.
 
rolled back
 
The system invalidates spam flags on roll backs.
 
@AnnZen "code only" answers are fine. They're not preferred. In that case, the poster had copied another answer. That's a good reason to delete and/or mod flag. Lots of folks come in and just repost an existing answer
 
@Braiam See the FAQ: "Rolling back a post to a previous state will revert to the number of flags from that particular revision. This allows the author (or someone else with edit rights) to rollback a post to which someone else introduced spam, rude, or abusive content in a later revision." Rolling back seems to me to have been the correct action to take and the post was quickly nuked afterwards.
 
1:40 PM
@JeanneDark I know the rules. That's why I said what I said.
 
@Braiam Your statement was not quite precise. Not all spam flags are invalidated.
 
@JeanneDark They will be invalidated if there are active spam flags and someone rolls back.
You can test it yourself on MSE.
Flags don't keep information about which revision they were raised.
 
Thanks, I trust the FAQ. Rolling back was the correct action. The problem was that the spam was edited out.
 
> A rollback clears any offensive flags that have been set on a question
From what is a roll back.
 
@Braiam See the rollback FAQ: "For example, if the post originally had two spam flags, was edited, received one more spam flag, then the edit was rolled back, the last spam flag will be cleared, leaving the first two."
Right below (and explaining) the sentence you quoted.
 
1:53 PM
 
2:06 PM
@JeanneDark That example doesn't have source.
 
@JeanneDark Authoritative source, sorry, I was thinking that that was implied.
@JeanneDark BTW, I tested it, it doesn't do anything. meta.stackexchange.com/q/362927/213575
So both FAQ's are wrong :D
 
2:21 PM
@Braiam I'm tempted to create an MSE account just to flag your post as spam ... for science, of course ;)
 
@MetaAndrewT. I always wanted to be a ginea pig :D — Braiam 2 mins ago
 
@ThierryLathuille ^ tag: needs repairing :-)
 
Oops... Yes, I'll take more care next time!
 
2:44 PM
@JeanneDark fun fact, roll back seems to do nothing. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/362927/…
 
2:57 PM
this is a link-only answer?
 
@EsTeAa It seems to give the essentials in the answer itself so doesn't look like an NAA to me...
 
@EsTeAa no, that is an answer
 
Yeah, it contains an answer. Would be better with a quote from the link, but it can stand by itself
 
even without the link it has text that might answer a question
 
3:02 PM
Thank you @Tomerikoo @desertnaut @Machavity @rene
 
3:21 PM
And this year's Ugliest UI Color Scheme award goes to this post
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@gunr2171 That seems to be geared to children. Children love bright colors, which the OP seems to know. What it doesn't know is that everyone hates discordant colors :D
 
@Dharman check my latest revisions to find two additional potential dupes of that canonical target
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ dark purple on black doesn't look too good to read
 
I distinctly remember someone that was a children at a time that that was their favorite color.
 
@gunr2171 hopefully it's just a template for prototyping and not an intentional color scheme
 
3:28 PM
maybe
 
If they ever launch "Stack Overflow for beginners", I hope it'll have that color scheme
 
If there's anything I've learned as a programmer, it's that programmers are terrible at naming things and coloring things
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And counting!
 
yes, those 4 problems
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Indeed, programmers' counting problems would go away if they just started counting at 1 like normal people
 
3:31 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Maybe that's why programmers don't like Lua
double backslash on left arm
 
That's funny, because Nick Craver taught their kids to count from 0 :D
 
@gunr2171 lolz, its funny, anyway thanks
 
@gunr2171 Yeah, some color schemes are a sin
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@TylerH Off to Fortran or Lua then. =D
 
3:32 PM
OH MY EYES
 
no one can copy-paste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@Machavity Classic
 
@BaummitAugen :-D also o/ been a while
@Machavity ah yes, I remember my classmates and I making pages like that in geocities or something similar in 5th grade
 
Our web pages weren't that fancy. Only html with different solid color in backgrounds and links (or buttons) that linked to the other files.
 
@Machavity Best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer huh... "Forget all other browsers and down with the web 2.0 net police". That texts an image by the way. Absolutely wild.
 
3:36 PM
@TylerH \o
 
"time to use a new acc xo"
 
@Dharman you are on a spree, aren't you?
 
@Dharman keep em coming. I have four votes left for today x)
 
Ok, but that was the last one of my votes
It would go much quicker if I had unlimited votes
 
#DharmanForModerator
 
4:25 PM
@Dharman indeed, many cleanup sprees would go much faster
 
mck
Is there a mod election coming?
 
@mck Not for SO yet. Thinking of running?
 
mck
@Machavity Nope, I'm not running but just curious, since I saw E_net4's message
 
4:42 PM
@mck Rule #412: I'm always joking, unless when I am not.
 
5:13 PM
^ that's spam, isn't it? Or isn't it spam if the question is asking for it?
 
5:23 PM
 
5:49 PM
 
6:06 PM
I @Machavity I was working on the feeds for this chatroom: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/228186/git then 4 hours later it got frozen, is it possible for you to please re-open it? I had a lot of plans for that room which I was working on! I wanted to do those things before inviting some more people.
 
@user1271772 We generally don't allow mod pings in this room. As an FYI, you can mod flag chat messages and we can handle those. I've taken care of it this time. And FYI, it will refreeze in 24h if you don't post something in it
 
@Machavity Thanks so much! And I'll custom flag next time, rather than pinging a mod. The reason I didn't flag it was because I thought flagging was for "serious issues with a message or other administrative issues". I suppose re-opening a room falls under "other administrative issues" but from my experience I've seen mods on the network (not on SO) get angry for flags that were not for "serious" issues.
 
Room freeze/delete is definitely a reason to mod flag. Only mods can fix that
 
Do we like general questions that doesn't specify a language? Specifically, talking about this one
 
@Tomerikoo I guess you have your answer now :P
But in general, some language-agnostic algorithm questions might be on-topic. Solvable by pseudo-code, for example.
 
6:18 PM
Yep ^_^ thanks to all the close-voters ;)
 
Eh, joke didn't work out as a chat message...
 
@Tomerikoo While academic questions are fine, there's no practical problem to solve without at least some hint of a language to write an answer in
 
7:29 PM
Any Android experts care to take a look at stackoverflow.com/questions/2403632/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/5105354/… - they appear to be dupes but I don't know which would be the better target (and I'm out of votes, anyway)
 
8:09 PM
 
8:38 PM
@DavidBuck Will take a look. Can you also take a look at these ones please? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/51928289#51928289
 
 
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10:09 PM
Can a mod unfreeze this room in case the user I accidentally linked this room without checking to see if it's frozen to decides to check it out? Bad Stack Overflow Reviews
Or is this the wrong place to make defreezing requests?
 
 
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11:10 PM
@AnnZen I guess unfreezing that room would be up to Samuel - the owner of the room.
... also, not sure if we do requests. :)
 
11:34 PM
@AdrianMole ohk
@AdrianMole oh
thx
 
@AnnZen The appropriate way to ask, as was mentioned a couple/few hours ago, is to raise a custom flag and ask for the room to be unfrozen. This room definitely isn't intended as somewhere to request action from a moderator. Doing that really is primarily done through flags. Moderators do, sometimes, see things which they choose to action which are not flags, but the intent of our moderator interaction policy is that this is not a place where moderators are asked to perform moderator tasks.
@AnnZen As to that room specifically, that room really is/was Samuel Liew's. Samuel really hasn't wanted interaction there for a while, and nobody has stepped up to take on the task of handling similar interactions.
 
11:57 PM
@mickmackusa close to being r/a
 

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