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7:03 PM
Oops.. I just noticed my comment typo; ' You are shiting it by 16 bits 16 times' ;) Must clear pizza crumbs from under 'f' key..
 
you've got to be shifting kidding me
 
whoa, new design for the review queue needing reviews
a red dot in the top-right corner of the icon instead of the icon being orange
 
Must be A/B tested; I didn't see it
(or just caching)
 
@TylerH I'm not seeing it
 
yeah, probably A/B testing
 
7:08 PM
Pics or it didn't happen
 
i.stack.imgur.com/lLaIN.jpg <- New review icon styles
4
 
cool
 
Stack Overflow reviews. Sponsored by SlashDot
 
I'm seeing them
 
7:12 PM
I think I like that better the the turning orange it does right now. Not sure how to do it but they need to get more people clicking on it.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah, the red dot does a much better job of telling users "attention here please"
 
Yeah
 
Not really my field yet but does the red dot represent a lot of things waiting in queue?
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse the icon would change from grey to orange to gently nudge users who haven't visited the review queues in X page views/visits
this is probably the same behavior, just a different view
I doubt it is to indicate high volume because in that case some of the review queues would always be red
 
@TylerH Gotcha, I didn't know about it so I was curious.
 
7:15 PM
I think bluefeet didn't have anything to do with it, or the dot would be blue.
 
her favorite color is "empty queues"
;-)
 
@TylerH I prefer seeing the numbers, but I can understand that just having the icons might be less compute intensive. It'd be nice to know what they are using for thresholds for the red dot. I hope that it's not something that will always show the red circle on the close review queue. In particular, I hope that the red dot on the main top-nav review icon is something that is only shown when a queue is particularly full, not all the time.
 
what tag is being worked on?
 
7:16 PM
htc?
it's the one pinned in the sidebar, but I haven't read the meta yet
 
I would love that there's something like if +delta% new task show dot.
@TylerH no items on the queues.
 
I'd like to see the dot as long as I have review left
 
@NathanOliver Make a meta post feature request :-D I'll upvote it because I like that notion
though I would have assumed it already includes that logic, e.g. 'dont show the icon if user has no reviews left'
 
@TylerH I'm not sure. The color of the review icon for me keeps turning on and off even though I have reviews
 
right, I mean
it will turn off if you have visited recently
and turn on when you haven't
but, it also will never turn on when you have no reviews left to give
I'm guessing they added that login in when they made the sticky header... at least I hope they did
 
7:20 PM
I believe is the same logic as the orange one, just that with dot.
 
@Braiam I'm all-for some type of icon badge that is shown when review queues need additional attention, because it draws attention to it when attention is needed. I'm against a badge that is shown all the time, because it causes people to get used to the badge being there, resulting in them ignoring it.
 
@Makyen that's what I'm saying
 
@TylerH wouldn't it be more useful to have an separate indicator/color for no reviews left?
Like blue XD
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse That really happens? I thought it was a cyber myth.
 
I will make a meta post
 
7:23 PM
@TylerH PM when you do.
I mean ping
 
ping*
 
@MartinJames When all humans are exterminated by extraterrestrials... maybe...
@Braiam Thanks
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse Considering the fermi paradox, it's more likely that we selfdestruct before they have the chance to do it for us.
 
@TylerH Philosophically, I don't like that way of doing it. That feels more like a nanny telling me what to do, "You naughty person. You haven't done your chores." Having it be determined based on when additional help is needed is just saying "Hey, we could really use some help over here."
 
@Braiam My fear is we are gonna send a rocket with a welcoming gift/peace treaty but do the calculation wrong and have the rocket crash into them declaring an act of war similar to the "Mars Probe Lost Due to Simple Math Error"
 
7:29 PM
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse Anything like that will be a long time from now, or the aliens will be so far ahead of technologically that they should be able to easily avoid something like that.
 
@Makyen "curiosity killed the cat"
 
Hmm, should I use a pun for the meta question title
 
Worried it will confuse people though
 
@Makyen I recommend you watching/reading Isaac Arthur videos. tl;dr we have the tech to be kardashev 2 civilization, but stuff is too expensive to build right now.
 
7:35 PM
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Q: When I look at the review icon, I see red

TylerHI like the new review icon, which I'm guessing is still undergoing A/B testing: It does a better job at saying "attention here, please" than the old icon which was almost indiscernible, and certainly easily ignored. What it doesn't do is tell me any useful information behind the alert. It's o...

cc @Error-SyntacticalRemorse
 
@Makyen We should start broadcasting PHP syntax/grammar now to prevent that happening. Should be good for a couple of millennia of arrested alien development.
 
@Braiam Which means we're not really a level 2 civilization. The "too expensive" is an inherent part of being at that level.
 
@TylerH Oh don't you worry I already saw it.
 
@MartinJames lol :-)
 
@Makyen what I meant is that we know how to build the stuff, we have the materials/knowledge to be k2 (in fact, is easier to be k2 once we figure out how to send non-trivial amounts of matter to space cheaply)
 
7:38 PM
@rene that A/B testing thread you linked to is from Nov '16 and said it would last a week
just FYI
 
That answer got slaughtered...
 
lack of spaces can't stop me ;)
 
What is sd k?
Ohhhh
Nvm
 
self destruct, kiloton
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse every spam flags gives the post an automatic down vote
 
7:40 PM
you may see sd n, that is self destruct, nuclear owo
 
Seems too broad to me, not an expert.
 
7:44 PM
@Braiam A very significant part of k2 is that the civilization does have easy/routine access to space resources. This is something we don't have at this point. We're still a long way from being there. Beyond that, it is how far we would have to go to be in the situation of actually meeting an extra-terrestrial sentient race (just getting to where they are).
 
@Makyen actually, k2 doesn't assume technological prowess, just how much power you can tap into.
 
Just putting it out there, the human races primary weapon is just throwing rocks extremely fast at each other (i.e. guns)
Secondary is rocks that go boom.
 
Not for long.
Lasers have been invented.
 
rocks/lead/photons all made in taiwan
 
Made in Taiwan
 
7:47 PM
Still testing. The new US battleship has a missile defense laser and a rail gun. IK someone on the development team, though the rail gun has too long of a cooldown time to be practicable (and just a faster rock).
 
`April 2017, a Stryker killed a drone for the first time with an onboard 5-megawatt laser. The 18-by-10-inch drone was shot down at a distance of 600 meters.
 
@Braiam True, but it implies having the tech to tap into that much power, which for k2 is orders of magnitude above what we currently have.
 
plans are for a 50kW laser within a few years on armored vehicles
 
@Compass Savage.
 
7:49 PM
@Compass the heat on that would be interesting to dissipate
 
@Braiam Nah. They just fire it from the bottom of the Atlantic.
Then they just have to deal with the Leidenfrost effect
 
Arguably speaking, breaking weapons of war is remarkably easy.
Aircraft may have redundancies
but a hole through the engine usually breaks em
Actually... just set the fuel on fire =w=
 
"just set the fuel on fire" easier said than done. But that is basically how Boeing's missile defense works.
(i.e. their force field patent)
 
Are we speaking about war on earth or space?
 
Just USE THE DEATH RAY
 
7:55 PM
Shog answered my meta question in case anyone is curious and hasn't seen that yet
 
link?
 
RED DOT OF DEATH
chases
 
uh oh :-D
 
Just used a maximized meteor swarm. 240 damage. Twin it and you get 480 ;)
 
7:58 PM
swarm or storm? A meteor swarm sounds terrifying.
 
Bah, a big chunk of mass speed up with Dyson beams up to relativistic speeds
 
Wow. @TylerH I'm very happy with my interaction with cannon on your post.
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse thanks, arrg I left a comment, lets hope I'm still here tomorrow :D
 
@TylerH still within the 6 to 8 Months timeframe ....
 
@Error-SyntacticalRemorse swarm iirc
 
8:01 PM
Dyson SPHEREEEE
 
@NathanOliver 'Special deal on photons this week! Guaranteed shipment in 2 days, discount for more than 10^30'.
 
:)
Guaranteed to be delivered fresh?
 
@NathanOliver Well, entangled probably.
 
well, as long as they come with an untangler I'll be okay
 
@MartinJames Free delivery at the speed of light with Solar Prime?
 
8:15 PM
@Machavity Probably not with 'all items individually boxed'
 
8:27 PM
@NathanOliver :-P
Why, just tried to leave a comment on a review
it told me "This is an audit"
thanks, system
he seems mad
 
Hey all \o
 
user4639281
Definitely not all too happy
 
user4639281
@halfer o/
 
@BhargavRao you already have that pinned here
 
8:41 PM
ROs, update-pin-pls
 
you should be able to as a moderator...
 
@TylerH yeah, changing it from the question to a statement
 
Would someone take a view on the edits in this question? See the comment conversation. I spotted this suggested edit which looked terrible, but the editor insists they did not make those changes (lot of weird casing errors, which made the question worse). Is this a known bug in the review system?
 
@BhargavRao good thing we can at least burn one cellphone company...
 
@halfer not a bug, editor is just lying
he probably does not consider his changes to be "changes"
At any rate, his edit isn't approved yet
so it isn't applied
 
8:44 PM
@Adriaan yupz. On the way to burn others. ;)
 
@halfer The weird casing etc. was there in the first revision. Then an interim edit fixed them, I guess while their code-only edit was still pending? So it looks like they added the bad grammar. There's a meta or two about this kind of thing,
 
user4639281
@halfer There was a bug along those lines not too long ago
 
Ah yeah the diff combination
thats technically a feature
to let two competing edits both be applied if they don't conflict
 
user4639281
That's what it was, but it only lists the one editor
 
That's terrible. So (suggested) edits marked as being from a user might not be from them?
 
8:46 PM
@BhargavRao something, something, ... Grumbles about not being for Finnish companies
 
Also @Adriaan, I didn't create the burnination coordination room this time because Burnaki is not yet available. I need to run, but if you can catch @FelixSFD and if he's free, then do set up one to monitor [htc].
 
@TinyGiant it was probably the OP using a grace period edit
 
@BhargavRao sure thing; I guess he'll catch this message. I won't be running point here, as I mentioned in the meta, but will be in the queues
 
@halfer It's his proposed text, it's just being compared to a different baseline than what he actually started with.
 
@PaulRoub: phew, so "not a bug"? That's confusing :=)
Doesn't this cause review queue problems? I mean, that suggested edit should certainly be rejected on the face of it, but if it just due to a shifted baseline, it could have been approved and not caused harm.
 
8:51 PM
No, if it were approved it would have re-introduced the casing errors. The cause just isn't what it seems.
 
Gotcha
 
Out of curiosity, anyone know why the sudden push to feature burniation requests on Meta again? Is it just me, or did they go a long time without doing that?
 
@PaulRoub I flagged both answers; Q needs to be deleted after closure
 
The question is kind of asking for it, I would mod flag that instead
 
@BhargavRao great, 2 mins after you started the burn process, someone posts an answer asking to keep [HTC]
 
9:04 PM
@PetterFriberg True for the accepted answer. But the new one is boilerplate, not specific to the question, and from someone associated with the linked site (mentioned in the profile, not the answer).
 
@SmokeDetector took down the entire post.
@Adriaan :|
 
@PaulRoub I agree probably just spam, I'm just always assuming good faith and not checking the links.
anyway BR as usual fixed the problem
 
time to sleep, cya \o
 
Cya BR, thanks for today!
 
@BhargavRao goodnight! Thanks for the meta stuff
 
Ron
9:10 PM
Sup world?
 
\o Ron all good, but time to sleep soon
 
9:26 PM
Sup \o
 
Ron
Sup y'all? I am fascinated with slang ;)
 
Here in the UK we used to use Wotcha?
It is/was short for "What're you up to?"
It's probably regarded as archaic these days though :)
 
Ron
Haha, nice one.
 
Ah, I got the origination wrong: urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wotcha
Well well well, every day's a school day.
 
10:09 PM
Hi all! o/
 
\o
 
10:37 PM
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[htc]"
I'd rather not seed the queue, but I'd be happy to spend some votes there
 
10:59 PM
Ah, the horror of being out of close votes and downvotes :(
 
@EJoshuaS Only an hour to go.
 
11:15 PM
I want to vtc this as a typo. I don't see it as useful, because the answer is: use std::string instead of char*.
 
Ron
@BaummitAugen Tree there?
 
Tree is here.
Finding a real dupe for that will be a real pain though.
 
I don't see it as useful to future readers. It's just "use C++ instead of C"...
 
Ron
This can't be right?
Right?
The comment I mean.
Wouldn't he end up with a shared ptr to first element there?
 
I feel like that should work, maybe as shared_ptr<int[]> for the type, though
 
11:18 PM
Hang on, gotta look that up. Gladly I don't have to deal with legacy C++ code atm, so I almost never need pointers to begins with. =D
 
Ron
Ah I see. Will it really? In post C++17?
 
Praetorian says it's correct without the make_shared. stackoverflow.com/a/13062069/3002139
No make_shared though atm.
I don't see a way to pass a deleter via make_shared atm, you would need that.
 
Yeah there's no way. make_shared slipped through the cracks (you can allocate arrays with make_unique IIRC)
 
Ron
Appreciate the help.
Thank you both.
 
Ron
11:28 PM
Strange working hours eh?
 
University student wakes up whenever he wants. =D
Of course that implies that sometime the bulk of my workday is during the night,
 
Ron
Ah I remember my college days. Was fast and furious back then. Now all I think about is a Ferrari to get me through my mid age crisis.
;)
That's what pushing 40 looks like.
 
I guess when I have a full time job, my schedule will kind of normalize. But right now, I don't have much pressure to change it.
 
Ron
snaps out of it and continues to explore C++
You are in high demand. As you will see eventually. Shortage of quality C++ developers out there.
 
I hope so. =D
 

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