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12:14 AM
and not a good poster neither ^
 
 
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4:01 AM
Should this be closed as a typo? The OP has nothing in the Main method of his console app and is surprized that his program doesn't do anything.
 
user3956566
opinions stackoverflow.com/questions/45747796/…? It seems like a do it all for me
 
tool rec ^
 
4:21 AM
This is a self-duplicate BTW ^
 
4:49 AM
my CV request needs an edit reject
 
done
 
thanks
 
5:22 AM
@AlonEitan That question's not No MCVE. The question doesn't indicate that they are trying debug something they have tried, thus a MCVE is not required. Having code would greatly help clarify/narrow the question, but "no MCVE" is not a valid close reason, except for debugging questions, which that question isn't.
 
@AlonEitan i had set as too broad.. looked like give me code
 
OK, thanks for the feedback :)
Next time - TB
 
5:42 AM
^ or offsite resource. I am not sure why the editor restrictions didnt catch that
 
6:08 AM
\o morning all. Quick question re this answer. What's the correct response? I feel like it's an attempt to answer (therefore not NAA), but I can't understand it well enough so have downvoted, and upvoted the comment that addresses my concerns - should this also be flagged as vlq?
 
@Frits its still an answer..although poor. VLQ is for link only stuff or answers in another language etc. Just downvote if you want IMO
 
@Frits Someone else flagged it as VLQ already. That's an accurate flag. NAA would not be. It is attempting to be an answer, it's just exceptionally poor. What it really needs is an edit. The person didn't understand how to do line breaks in markdown. That would make the answer a bit clearer. You could still flag as VLQ, and it would still be an accurate flag, but not a very useful one because as a moderator I would not feel comfortable simply deleting it.
What you should really do is focus on the question, which is (as usual) the root of the problem.
 
@CodyGray Oh.. surprised to see you here . I was under the impression you dont frequent chats :) Good morning \o
 
@suraj I do not frequent them, but I was here yesterday to communicate with a flagger, and I failed to "leave" the room, so this was still up.
Also, I've been invited many times here to give feedback on flags, so you might see me occasionally around.
 
@CodyGray "not a very useful one..." yeah that's also what I was trying to avoid. Thanks for the clarification :)
 
6:16 AM
My primary issues with chat are that (1) it's a major timewaster, and (2) people want to use it as a way to ask low-effort, help-vampire style questions, which I am not interested in. (1) hasn't changed, but at least here (2) is not a big problem.
"not a very useful one" is actually a rather apt description of the VLQ flag in pretty much all cases. I still think it should be combined with NAA and changed more obviously into something that implies "should be deleted". It is part of my omnibus proposal of changes to the flag system that I'm currently drafting.
What I'm still trying to figure out is under what circumstances a VLQ on a question makes sense. I can't think of any, save perhaps for questions in a language other than English.
 
@CodyGray I always assumed VLQ also meant that edits could resolve issues. I.e. question uses code shown via an image instead of codeblocks etc...
But in that same breath, almost every other situation that requires edits would be better off with a "too broad" or "unclear" flag...
i.e. "Help my website shows a white screen? What do I do? </end>"
 
@Frits That goes back to "not a very useful one". Who is going to do this editing? It's not a moderator's job to come in and fix a post's problems, so instead of flagging, you should be doing the editing yourself. If you can, that is. Otherwise, you should be voting to close.
 
@CodyGray Very good point. Never actually thought of it that way... 0.o
 
Right, I suspect many people haven't, which is why the flag system is broken. When you see a post that has obvious quality problems, you naturally want to flag it as "very low quality", and you are totally correct in doing so under the current system. The problem is, as a moderator, I don't know what to do with that flag.
Now, we've sort of tried to address that problem by letting the community review posts flagged VLQ in the "Low Quality Posts" queue, but again, that usually just ends up resulting in votes to delete. The only thing I like better about that is that, at least in theory, these votes come from domain experts who can actually judge whether an answer is useful, rather than a moderator who may not know beans about Python.
But that isn't perfect either, because we can't count on having reviewers with domain knowledge in every possible subject, and especially now, when the number of reviewers has fallen off a cliff.
Not sure if that makes sense. I'm kinda rambling here.
 
@CodyGray Lol, makes perfect sense tbh. I agree with your point regarding the almost "auto-close" response, and considering your previous points, I also agree that this is the better solution.
 
6:28 AM
I think it does.. Although I figured the number of reviewers problem was only for close vote queue... Right now LQP queue shows 75 posts. Didnt know all queues had this problem
 
The only other solution I could think of is something along the lines of gold-tag-holders getting to review vlq's in their tags, but that would just cause an insane backlog...
 
I cleaned out LQP a few days ago and got it down to 0. Bhargav actually reminded me afterwards that we're really supposed to let the community have first crack at these flags. That's probably why it is so low. But yeah, it is still much more manageable than the closure queue. That's a horse of an entirely different color. I still don't have a solution there.
I would love to see expanded privileges to gold tag badge holders. Not sure what the resistance is there on the part of the team (or maybe there isn't any, just not been a developer priority).
I think that would actually help the closure queue, too, if we could let domain experts single-handedly close a question as off-topic or too broad. They would be the ones to know.
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@CodyGray That actually sounds pretty amazing... Would love to see that being implemented one day...
@CodyGray See, chat is good ;) where else do you get to ramble with the community ;)
 
The cynical side of me says the resistance comes from not wanting to have to deal with hordes of new users angry that their question got closed. It's even worse when that closure is done by a single individual, rather than a panel of 5, because that gives a single place for people to direct their ire. Of course, the flip side is that if you fix your question, it can be immediately re-opened, which would be way more effective than a "review reopen" queue.
@Frits Um, Meta. :-)
 
dammit...
XD
@CodyGray We could always make the system meet halfway between those two points. Currently it needs 5 votes, it could be adjusted to allow domain experts' votes to count for 3 votes instead of 1...
 
6:36 AM
Yeah, additional weight has been proposed before. The reason why I prefer giving gold tag badge holders an instant vote is basically because it keeps the question out of a queue. I think queues create more problems than they solve.
But at this point anything would be an improvement.
A couple of days ago, I buzzed through the close queue, filtering for "opinion-based" and closed a whole bushel of questions. Didn't make much of a difference in the total number. Fairly ridiculous. There is no way we're ever going to be able to "catch up", and having close votes age away because there are too many for anyone to ever see is broken by design. A question doesn't become any better just because there are lots of bad questions.
I mean, it might be justifiable if there were some kind of weighted system, but there really isn't. You don't choose whether a closeable question is really in need of closing or kinda in need of closing.
 
user2371524
@CodyGray I guess that's definitely an issue. The privilege to "close as duplicate" doesn't expose this risk most of the time as the OP will normally understand it immediately.
 
@FelixPalmen Oh, it absolutely still does. We regularly handle cases of targeted downvoting from someone who was butt-hurt that their question was closed as a duplicate. I don't pretend for a second to understand this. It makes negative sense how everyone interprets duplicate closure as a negative thing. It gives you an instant answer to your question, one that has already been vetted by the community.
 
@CodyGray agreed. I do prefer the "domain expert single close vote" solution. The reopen queue is verrrry tiny compared to cv queue, and editing a question would chuck it in there. I feel like a lot of people in CV would spend more time on other queues if they could spend less time in CV (but I base that assumption on complete guess work...)
 
user2371524
How about giving this privilege only when there is already at least one close vote?
 
Oh ... a wild and chatting Cody in the room ...
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Can any Python/Django expert check what I have put together here. I'm not a Python/Django dev, at all. Feel free to edit.
 
7:00 AM
@rene I have asked in the Python room, as that is the better place to ask anyway.
 
@CodyGray Unfortunately, the duplicate answer is less than useless to the OP. Other students in the class have already copypasta the dup text into their homework, and the student wants an answer written just for them, so the prof does not 'F-' them for plagiarism along with all the other deadbeats who hand in identical answers. They then get ratty because the assignment is due in tomorrow, they are clueless, and left with nobody to do the work for them:(
 
@CodyGray and who managed to drag you into chat kicking and screaming? :p
 
Morning o/
 
@JonClements you puppies bullying the greenhorn mods?
 
@MartinJames How many professors out there are still clueless about the existence of the Internet? It's always been pretty obvious to me as a teacher when I get a confused student that turns in excellent work. Call me cynical, but cheating is the first thing I suspect, which sends me looking for evidence.
 
7:07 AM
@JonClements I've already alerted the cops. A hostage rescue team is on its way..
 
@Martin I wouldn't worry about the rescue team... just send the paramedics for when Cody's finished with 'em :p
 
@CodyGray 'How many professors out there are still clueless about the existence of the Internet?' very few, and I'm sure that many have automated scripts etc. to look for obvious plagiarism, but never underestimate the cluelessness of some students, both about programming, and teaching practices:)
 
@JonClements I'm no ninja. Just a humble pair of spectacles.
 
All part of your deception... :) "Oh look at me - I'm so vulnerable and weak... just a pair of spectacles... please don't hurt me... meh meh meh"... :p
 
Soooo....why, in a room concerned with quality, does everyone abuse tag formatting so egregiously?
 
7:14 AM
@CodyGray umm... why do you think it's abuse... [tag:cv-pls] is used to highlight for attention (along with other related tags) so they stand out... and since the syntax isn't likely to come up in normal chat - scripts can be used to keep the transcript tidy by moving them to an archive room so there's still a record of activity...
 
Looks like abuse precisely because that's not a real tag. I also triggered on the "pls", but one issue at a time. :-)
 
@CodyGray in absence of systems people could really need, they get inventive around working with what they've got - don't knock it :p
 
Yeah, I wasn't aware of the scripting considerations.
 
@CodyGray cv-pls is one of those "memes of SO"
 
there is also del-pls
 
7:17 AM
make-it-stop-pls
 
Which use to sometimes get used as dv-pls to be consistent with cv-pls but I didn't like that for obvious reasons as dv doesn't read as delete vote to me...
 
@CodyGray With scope, technically.
Plop everyone
 
Morning everyone o/
 
\o
 
Closes @CodyGray for being
quick everyone hide!
 
7:21 AM
@kayess grumbles Don't ping mods
 
@Kyll why not ?
 
It gets noisy to them, a couple ones have notified us already
 
Want me to count the number of pings to bhar and pup just from the last week ?
 
Let's not even start with BR =p
And to the ninja puppy it's basically self-defense at that point
he's got a sword
 
excuses... :D
 
@BhargavRao whoops, six in line :P
 
I would say more because I often ping you as @Bhargav
 
@Adriaan time to bring out teh ban hammerz ;)
 
\o/ finally rest!
 
@BhargavRao you should filter that from the point in time you became a mod :p
 
7:27 AM
When did the "don't ping mods" rule come into effect?
 
Also as the WarSpearrel said, you should include all possible choices from @Bha to @BhargavRao :D
@BhargavRao never. it was said not to tell mods to do something
 
Ah.
Might need to revisit the rule book.
 
@kayess Is it?
 
@Kyll yep
 
@kayess umm.... I don't mind: "Hey puppy - here's a bag of your favourite scooby snacks - have the day off and relax..."
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7:29 AM
Well to me both seem obvious =|
 
@JonClements Hey puppy - here's a bag of your favourite scooby snacks - have the day off and relax...
 
@JonClements Hey puppy - here's a bag of your favourite scooby snacks - have the day off and relax...
 
What a great idea guys... I might just do that!
 
Any C++ experts here that want to take a second look at this question? It got flagged, asking for it to be re-opened, citing that the edits have made it empirical, rather than opinion-based. Re-open queue decision was inconclusive.
 
@JonClements Hey puppy - here's a bag of your favourite scooby snacks - have the day off and relax...
 
7:30 AM
@JonClements Hey puppy - here's a bag of your favourite scooby snacks - have the day off and relax...
 
we are literal, kinda
 
@CodyGray cc @Nathan our resident C++ expert when you wake up
afk
 
7:44 AM
is it just me or is there a bitter memory leak in the suggested edits queue
and in the CV queue
After like 5-10 reviews I have to reload the site because it just becomes slower and slower. This happens even without any userscripts
 
7:58 AM
Morning all
 
8:10 AM
@YvetteColomb old
 
@Redo see the SmokeDetector report directly above
 
I saw it from Sobotics and I already CV'ed it before entering here. But the Q is too old
 
@Redo It's not too old. It gained a new answer, hence it was bumped to the front page and thus we act.
 
CV requests are usually sent on activity not age.
 
ok
 
8:12 AM
too old for what exactly? You can CV, vote on, delete, answer etc posts from 2009, so too old for what?
 
too old to post it in this room
 
@Adriaan technically even the answer is old.. Smokey just picked up an old post..
 
The idea of the SOCVR is indeed to not post a cv-pls for a post which hasn't been active for months, but a question getting new activity (usually an answer, but an edit works as well) is perfectly OK here
 
wait
yes suraj is correct. The answer is old too
 
@suraj ah, I think Vadim's edit boosted it to the front page, making SD pick it up
 
user3956566
8:16 AM
@Redo yeh I know - it was reported by smokey - so I figured vote to close it - I don't go digging - only if they surface and become relevant today
 
@VadimKotov are you sure about that
 
user3956566
@Adriaan yep agree
 
@VadimKotov not sure that should be closed; a comment saying that Unix & Linux could be of help to them might be good
 
8:36 AM
@Redo @Adriaan but looks like it is off-topic for SO, right?
but I'm not 100% sure
 
@VadimKotov I'm not familiar enough with Linux to be sure. It might be on-topic here, but I agree that it's probably a better fit on U&L or SU
 
@Redo he just added the code
 
fine
 
8:59 AM
@Magisch just today? Because y'day I had no issue.
 
@rene No, almost every day since then
I'm using your thing checker thing, because there is no other US yet that displays the vote breakdown per post in review queues
I'd like one that just displays vote breakdown (in up and downvotes) per post in the review queues
 
@Magisch any URL for that US ?
 
Generally you want to do a double take if something is like at +5/-5 more then you would at something that's at 0 and clicking through to get that every time is ridiculously annoying
 
@Magisch hm, strange. I'm a bit occupied now but will check tonight and take note of load times.
 
@rene Since you're a Userscript whiz, could you make one that just displays vote breakdowns per post in the CV / Reopen / LQP / Triage / Late Answers / First posts queues?
The fact that it seems to get worse with every passing review until you f5 reload suggests to me that some sort of memory / cpu leak is happening
 
9:04 AM
@Magisch What did you mean by vote breakdown
 
Instead of "0 Votes" I want a breakdown of up and downvotes
This 0 votes could be +10/-10 or +-0
Which is important for the review
 
OK again, is that script available somewhere ?
 
I created a similar script but it will fetch the original vote count from the question page. Mainly to deal with audits
 
@Redo Can I has?
Wait vote count
Not breakdown
@kayess Not sure. I'm using an old version of Rene's thing checker
 
nope. For review audits, it will show 0 votes. but the original votes may be +10 or so. In such case, this script will be easy
 
9:08 AM
May still be available somewhere
The new version doesn't have it anymore
 
I can modify it to suit your needs. need some time
 
"Thing Checker(tm)" - "Checking All The Things since...(tm)" :p
 
typo corrected
 
@JonClements I would like to quit using it
 
@Magisch ok thanks, waiting for input from @rene
 
9:09 AM
@Magisch Is that not easy to do then?
 
@JonClements but it's the only one with the vote breakdown functionality
And even only an old version of it
If I knew enough about tampermonkey and JS to make my own I'd make my own
 
Write one in C then we ask Nathan to port it C++ which Kyll will use to generate JS from
 
Ahh, then your mission, should you choose to accept it...
 
That's how we roll
 
@JonClements You underestimate my suckage in JS
 
9:33 AM
@RiggsFolly you post that twice...
 
9:44 AM
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Q: Burninate [samsung-galaxy] and retag with [samsung-mobile]?

Vivek MishraAs per the discussion in this question, I would suggest to burninate samsung-galaxy tag and retag them with samsung-mobile tag as that is more relevant tag for those questions.

 
@suraj Woops SORRY! Little brain ... fat fingers
 
 
2 hours later…
11:28 AM
Morning
 
o/
 
o/
 
@gunr2171 I revised my query showing the average time to close per month by excluding extreme outliers (e.G questions that were reopened and reclosed were reporting their last closure date driving averages for early months WAY up) as well as questions that were closed over a year later (these were also driving early averages WAY up). Now it looks more even: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/710396/…
 
11:36 AM
@CodyGray voted to reopen. I think By best way, I mean "memory efficient". I know for internal linkage, multiple copies for each translation unit will be made, hence eating memory makes it no longer opinion based cc @Kyll
 
@NathanOliver Thanks, that's basically what I thought, too, but the diamond kind of messes up my ability to vote as a "normal" C++ user.
 
@CodyGray Heh, you wanted that diamond
 
Oh, I'm not complaining. Just saying why I was passing this off to someone else.
 
I get that. The first week of having a dupe hammer took some time to adjust to :)
 
Well, it is a bit different here than a dupe hammer because I would be overriding 5 community members, many of them recognized C++ experts. I take that a bit more seriously than closing a question as a duplicate.
Although I guess to be fair, it had already accumulated a couple of re-open votes, so it wouldn't be a complete override.
 
11:38 AM
while you are here Cody this has already flag or do I need to flag? stackoverflow.com/a/44513629/5292302
 
No, was not flagged, @PetterFriberg, but I got the message either way :-)
 
you like me to flag it?
 
If it interests anyone else. I used SEDE to make a statistical average it of the time it takes for bad questions to be closed from posting
grouped per month
 
@PetterFriberg Handled already. Did you see anything else suspicious in his recent answers? I don't know how you guys detect this stuff.
 
ok, great, sorry for asking in chat, I just hate to pile flags.
 
11:42 AM
interseting. I wonder what happened last year to start the time to close to start dropping so much. That is a bi change from ~130 hours to ~20 hours
 
@CodyGray hold on, let me run him through the sock puppet detector
wait @PetterFriberg Do you still have his name?
 
Less interested in sock puppetry than plagiarism at the moment. I can check sock puppetry fairly easy on my side.
 
@CodyGray I have signed the user but not run checks, we found only that for now
 
@CodyGray I'll do a plagiarism check pass for a sec too
 
11:45 AM
:)
 
The policy is eminently sensible, of course.
I am new here. :-)
 
D:
 
I'll say one thing about that user, he loves to use bold grumble grumble grumble
 
Welcome here, please enjoy your stay
 
So, you have a bot that detects plagiarism? Does it scan against the entire web (e.g., Google), or does it just look at the SO data dumps?
 
11:49 AM
Also be aware the the Hotel California Effect is active. You can check out any time but you can never leave ;)
I'm not sure if someone has made a bot. I try to google every answer I see to see if it was plagiarixed.
 
I know there are plagiarism detectors that exist for academic use, but I don't know of any that are free or open source.
 
If the answers seem uncharacteristically well-put together just moments after a question has been posted, I quite often check for plagiarism.
 
If you don't reply, you'll get an inbox message. If you ignore the inbox message, you'll get an email. If you ignore the email, you'll get a notification on your phone. If you ignore the notification on your phone ... well, we're out of luck.
 
@CodyGray we scan only towards related questions from api, we don't have the cash to use google api on all SE posts ;)
 
@CodyGray Looks clean. I checked his top 10 best voted answers and they're all clean at least of code and phrase copying
Looks like an outlier
 
11:53 AM
Cool. The reason I asked is I thought you had a bot for this. Everyone's got bots running around all over the place. I still do old-school moderation.
 
Nah
I usually have a hunch and then go on a google spree
 
@CodyGray this is the bot we are running stackapps.com/questions/7197/…, we would like to sue google/bing to find related posts on SO, but they have limited calls, anyway the one I gave you we found through the comment.
 
For most plagiarism people don't bother to change variable names so it'll show up very quickly in google. Plus you can usually feel if someone's sentence structure in a paragraph doesn't line up with their usual writing.
 
Posts that have the structure "u can tri dis" followed by masterful English prose are usually a good indication.
 
@Magisch Yeah, I know how to detect it the old-fashioned way. Found it in many student submissions back in the teaching days, and plenty of other SO answers in these more recent years.
 
11:55 AM
I would love to have a bot for that
 
@Magisch come up with an algorithm that only use SE api and let it roll ;)
 
Maybe I'll give similarity classifier a go some day
And run it on a data dump to bypass call limits
 
Well a lot of plagiarism comes from SO posts so you could scan new posts against all existing posts
The last case I worked on about half the plagiarism came from SO.
 
It's bad practice, but I kinda like it when they use magic numbers, especially longer ones, masks and the like. Google really likes finding those.
 
@NathanOliver Sure lets just scan all new posts against 10m or so exsisting posts each :p
 
11:57 AM
"all existing posts..." that's a few... ;)
 
user3956566
anybody here interested in the suggested edit review queue rejection reasons? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/355280/…
 
Well you could use the data dump to make it easier. That way you only need API calls to get the new post and then you run it through the DB
 
I reckon with the amount of new answers on SO doing that in real time would be quite a chore
As in I'd probably need a pretty beefy dedicated box for this
 
@NathanOliver how big of a hard drive do I need?
 
I would love to see plagiarism detection integrated into the Q&A engine, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
 
12:00 PM
thing is
 
But that's like a way bigger deal to me than something that can automatically flag comments, as cool as that might be.
 
these academic plagiarism detectors have minutes of runtime
You can't afford that kind of delay in a Q/A engine
 
You can let them pass, then smack them later
 
Even if it only ran retroactively, it could raise flags.
 
it would be enough if we could use google or SE had a nice search api, we would find more posts
 
12:02 PM
Maybe we could just fix the SE search...
 
@JohnDvorak Looks like the dump is ~30GB so 300GB should be OK
If you just want post history that is ~20GB
 
You really don't even need the full history. You could just compare against the current revision.
I don't know if that's easily extractable.
 
Not sure.
Funny story, last week we filled out DB. We had it set at 12GB and we hit that. Not bad considering it had been running since 2003. I just doubled it (command was easier that way) and now we should have another 10 years before we have to worry.
 
Does any one else see a "show 1 more comment" under my answer here meta.stackoverflow.com/a/355241/4099593, but the comment just disappears when you click it? (FULL DISCLOSURE: MY ANSWER)
 
@BhargavRao Yes
It is a bug, I'll try and find the meta
 
12:07 PM
@CodyGray I've had to pop code into Beli to grab the latest revision. From the revision API it pulls out all revisions so I've a quick method that checks for the latest revision. It's certainly doable.
 
@BhargavRao Yep
 
Hmmm, weird AF.
 
@NathanOliver The cv queue is 12GB+ ?
 
@BhargavRao Well, there is this open report but this is the one I was remembering.
@MartinJames Sorry, we filled our DB at work.
 
@NathanOliver Oh.. LOL
 
12:10 PM
:)
 
@NathanOliver danke, purged all the comments and the issue was gone
 
bitte
 
@NathanOliver 24 GB should be enough for anyone
 
@Bugs there is however a bug which I've reported
 
I'm trying to be the good Samaritan and give someone a chance and to be patient. Then someone goes and downvotes and votes to delete a question.
 
12:13 PM
@CodyGray Yeah. It is for our ERP system. We have the ability to purge old data but we never have before (they really like to have history). Next time we get close I'm going to do a purge though as we don't need ~20 years of history for inventory transactions.
 
Are you sure you don't? ;-)
 
some were just too quick on the gun for a valid question
 
YES. I wanted to purge already but was overruled since we had "the space"
@Fred-ii- If you think it needs to be reversed feel free to drop a request. I'd hate to see a salvageable question get stomped on.
@PowerStar Welcome. What can we help you with?
 
@NathanOliver yeah. If I see the question deleted, I'll flag for undeletion. There's already 2 votes to delete one.
 
sounds good
 
12:19 PM
@NathanOliver this question is very old one. Since I have answered and OP also got answer. so that just posted here to close it.
 
Why would you answer something that you want closed?
Those are polar opposites
 
We also have a few guidelines on how to post a close vote request, which you can helpfully find at socvr.org. =)
 
@VadimKotov your edits are giving more work to smokey :P for eg stackoverflow.com/a/31858263/4826457
 
@PowerStar We don't close questions once they have been answered. Either the question is "good" and should be answered or it is "bad" and it should be closed.
 
@suraj :P
 
12:22 PM
@NathanOliver Ok thanks!
 
no problem.
 
@NathanOliver I guess that if a valid question has 2 delete votes in already with 3 downvotes, that it may not be worth salvaging or worth to vote to reopen; thoughts?
 
I think the most important rule is that we stay away from bringing posts that we have stake in
 
@Fred-ii- There are times when you should just cut your loses and post a new and improved question instead of trying to salvage a train wreck. Often times voters don't come back so it is hard to remove the "stank". Maybe suggest that to the OP
 
hey experts!
can you please advise should specific version questions be tagged only with version tag, or with general one also?
For example, it is recommended to tag Swift 3 questions with [swift-3]. Should we also tag it with [swift] ?
 
12:25 PM
@NathanOliver Oh well, Lord as my witness knows I tried; thanks.
 
@PowerStar If you haven't I would suggest you check out our FAQ to see how the room is supposed to function.
 
@VadimKotov I think it's both. Let me see if I can find the meta post
 
@VadimKotov I use the main tag and the version tag. That gives you visibility and constraints.
 
@VadimKotov Yes, if a version-specific tag is warranted, a general tag is also appropriate. In most cases, though, version-specific tags are not warranted. Only use them if the question is specifically about that version. Don't just use them because the asker happens to be using that version.
 
yeah, I think too, but I'm not sure. Also, there is a limit of tags :)
 
12:26 PM
 
Yes, only 5 tags
 
thanks guys!
 
@PetterFriberg yep, figured there would be a faq. didn't see it in the google search. thanks
 
"Don't use your username for a tag." Sage advice. Now curious as to the history that made Joel think such an explicit statement was necessary.
 
12:31 PM
@CodyGray You mods already have the ability to find exact duplicate answers, yeah?
 
and now time for morning meetings, afk
 
@Magisch Um, sorta. Why?
 
@gunr2171 What? It says it's almost over!
 
I need to fix that logic
 
@CodyGray Was thinking of doing some SEDE fu to find duplicated code blocks
 
12:32 PM
@CodyGray Some guy called cody gray added a tag. We had to burninate it.
 
Hey @gunr2171 did you see my Ping?
 
@Magisch yep, will get to it soon
 
@Magisch That would still be useful, I'd say. What we have now only considers the entire post, so I'm pretty sure a stupid "try this :-" will mess it up.
Seems like something that would belong in the Gutenberg bot I was previously linked to.
 
Guttenberg does find out many such ones, which I've asked the users to flag as "repost of <link>, custom flagging as an auto flag wouldn't be raised here"
in SOBotics, 2 hours ago, by Guttenberg
[ Guttenberg ] 45754015 is possible repost of 45753247; Reasons: String similarity 0.84; 0.84;
The latest example where the code block was just formatted a bit more.
 
An auto flag will be raised though if the same user post 100% the same answer
 
12:38 PM
Yep. But even a small space at the end would not raise an autoflag.
 
The person(answered) keep doing such things.
 
@Redo 100% sure?
 
Hello guys !
 
@Fred-ii- That's the reason of the error. Also the answer states that
 
12:40 PM
\o @NathanOliver
I'm trying to hammer something I have already voted to close as dupe
 
you can't. if retracted, you can't cv again until the Q is closed and reopened
 
what can I do ?
 
Dat dupe though...
 
@Redo when a possible duplicate is flagged, I wonder why it isn't showing in the comments area; did you remove it from there?
 
yeah
 
12:41 PM
closed
 
@eliasah Unfortunately, nothing. You only get one close vote per post (unless it ages away)
 
@Redo I'm not entirely sure if removing it from the comment area was a good idea though, TBH.
 
ok thanks @NathanOliver
 
Congrats on getting a hammber btw. I love mine :)
 
@Fred-ii- I won't remove it normally but I have a list of some people and when interacting in the posts those people interacted, I'll try to keep anonymity. (A self made list of revenge downvoters)
 
12:44 PM
To be honest? I'd have closed them the other way around.
 
Hehehe thanks @NathanOliver
 
But that might be just me. =)
 
there is just 4 of us on
so it's a nice :)
 
I am targetting a JS dupe hammer but it's very hard to get on JS
 
@Redo ;-)
 
12:46 PM
@Fred also the person made irrelevant edit to the Q stackoverflow.com/posts/45756307/revisions abusing code blocks (2nd rev)
 
@Redo I've no idea why he did. Best you ask him and see what his reason was.
 
@Fred-ii- I think he's targetting the edit and answer badges
 
@AshwiniChaudhary there's a funny comment on the answer. [closed]
 
@Redo I'd just let it go; let him have his fun lol
 
12:49 PM
Aw shucks
It doesn't like two nested selects on the entire posts table
not even for the last 30d
 
Would this roomba? stackoverflow.com/questions/45757045/… 3 answers there.
 
@BhargavRao yep, 10 days
As long as everything is a 0 or lower it can have as many answers as SO will allow
 
Awesome, thanks!
 
Anyone have a "gimme teh codez" question for me to VTC? Still recovering from running out of close votes early yesterday.
 
12:54 PM
@EJoshuaS fp
 
@Redo I know :D. Answer was copy-pasted from here and the questioner forgot to ask a question.
 
"gimme teh codez" is technically a downvote reason, "too broad" would be a close reason.
 
@BhargavRao can you remove the second revision stackoverflow.com/posts/45756307/revisions
 
@BhargavRao Several of the answers are VLQ.
 
@Redo You don't need a moderator. Look for the "rollback" link.
 
12:57 PM
I mean remove the revision. It's irrelevant. Also closed question. rollbacking will push to ROQ
 
We don't remove revisions because they are "irrelevant". Only when they leak sensitive information.
 
@Redo Nopes, you can't remove the revision. You can only rollback, but I'd advise not to as it's got closed now. Rolling back will push it to the Reopen queue
 
@BhargavRao yeah. That's why I didn't rollbacked
 
@EJoshuaS meh, I'd move on. The question itself will go in 10 days, no need to add more posts in the LQP Queue.
 
@BhargavRao don't worry. It won't show the count now :p
 

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