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2:37 AM
@Olaf Yeah, I'm aware that the multitude of different storage media have both physical longevity and technological obsolescence concerns. I appreciate you mentioning it. For backups which you really care about, it's necessary to have a plan for maintaining the data over the years. I usually point people at this graphic, which does an OK job of visualizing some different physical lifespans.
The numbers used in that graphic are decent ballparks, but the expected lifespans for each media type depends on the research study which is used as primary source of data for that type. Ironically, that graphic was created to push that company's cloud storage product, which is now discontinued for consumers, showing the obvious lie that any particular cloud storage product is forever.
 
@Makyen Interesting, but it looks overly optimistic to me (and it seems to be quite outdated. It also seems to concentrate on media actually used. Media which is just stored (backup/archive) has much different problems. For instance HDDs are likely better than (NAND-Flash based) SSDs. The problem with head-crashes does not arise here as the heads are normally retracted from the platters.
But as you seem to have cared about this problem (way too many people just don't): do you have any idea how the 10+TB Helium HDDs can be expected to perform? (I know the manufacturer information, but I wonder if there is some more independent material). I'm just interested for my local RAID, I never trusted clouds for my data anyway (they might be fine for second backup, though).
 
@Olaf Yeah, it's not the end-all-be-all for information. I use the graphic mostly to get people to start thinking about the issue. It's a complex issue that should be examined to the extent needed for the particular application (personal/business/enterprise/etc.).
 
Hmm, according to that graphic, I could try to read my old VIC64 and Apple ][ Floppies. Problem is where I get a drive for them, though. Maybe I could get a PC drive and use an MCUs to read the data analog. … nah, too much hassle for what I wrote that time.
 
@Olaf You could probably get the drives/computer from eBay :-).
 
2:52 AM
@Makyen Interestingly, I have thought about that stuff for the last months from time to time. I have to set up a new RAID and am worried about corription. What do you think: ZFS and ECC RAM: is the latter really necessary? And if, would a Pentium sufice or should I really use a Xeon? I'd consider a Ryzen, but there are no Mini-ITX mainboards with more than 4 SATA ports available.
@Makyen Sure, but that was not really what I understand of "fun with classical electronics". I have various MCUs boards (and MCUs) here which would be pretty interesting. The analog-approach would allow for very advanced recovery strategies. But it is not a bad idea to get a floppy-driver there. Anyway, That is project #4711 on my list of interesting things to do after the apocalypse.
 
@Olaf Let's take this to the The Ministry of Silly Hats (or some other room), as we're a bit off-topic for SOCVR.
 
^Also, "do my work for me"
 
 
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4:54 AM
^ I made a mess there; the last nominated duplicate should be used as the target, not the one which it's currently flagged as possibly a duplicate of
 
 
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6:38 AM
@user2357112 Please refrain from asking for downvotes, or implying that people should downvote, specific posts here.
 
7:30 AM
@PetterFriberg Thanks, I answered it...Its not a complicated problem
 
@SurajRao Great yeah that question was a lot this xkcd.com/979 ;)
4 NAA posting that :D
 
I wonder if I found a question 'the future of X' (X is any existing & available tech like Java), which close reason apply?
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto POB (Primary opinion based)
 
7:57 AM
@FireAlarm unclear
 
 
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@Adriaan there is no context.. offensive how?
 
9:38 AM
@SurajRao that's often the question with chat offensive flags, you have no way to tell unless you visit the room and look around (and even then often not)
 
@Adriaan approve approve, to test if Mod can be chat banned :D, just for science!
 
Plop
 
9:58 AM
@SurajRao that's what you never see on chatflags
 
@Adriaan yeah.. have to click on date and see transcripts... harder when the flag is from language specific site
 
 
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12:41 PM
^vietnamese apparently
 
 
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1:54 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels wow I wonder if he know how repaint works... you should not make code like that in Swing..
next question will be why does repaint not repaint
 
2:17 PM
@PetterFriberg: Looks like he's just starting / stumbling.
 
 
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ohai
 
4:36 PM
both of them
 
 
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@Mogsdad He is asking about some legal stuff and purely based on assumptions. How does he know the material has not been licensed to youtube? Flush and away.
 
@Olaf So many reasons to close that, right?
 
@Mogsdad There can hardly be more reasons for a single question. I wonder what they think even caring about that. Well, probably he has some illegal stuff to share on YT …
How about a fundraising campaign for brain to the people?
 
@Olaf Meh, let's wait for Musk to develop a brain-computer interface, and let an AI take over all stupid people ;)
 
6:40 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth If we really need an AI to solve mankind's problems, we are truely lost.
Who guarantees an AI has the same ethical system humans have (well, at least those who don't want to kill people just because they have different believes)?
How does one see an AI is really intelligent? It will hide its existence from humans.
 
@Olaf Luckily, I'm far from serious, as your proposal for a fundraising campaign was, and it's far from a reality. Good material for sci-fi movies though
 
@Olaf So you mean after all our turing tests? =8O ...
 
@user0042 Whatever. The most clever ones will even not raise suspicion they do exist. All a matter of self-protection.
@ErikvonAsmuth A lot of good books are way ahead of that. Isaak Asimov has started with that even before 1950. I really recommend to read the extended Foundation Cycle (there is a special edition with 10 books). The movie "I Robot" gave some idea, although it had the (nowadays) usual action-CGI bloat. Another good one is, of course Blade Runner (the 1980ies version!), althought he original book by Philip K. Dick is much more interesting, too.
 
7:12 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre not deleteable yet
 
Ron
o/
"Humanity is just a midwife for AI." - excerpt from a show I watched.
 
8:02 PM
@rene: I'll get it deleted by roomba now. Thx
 
8:12 PM
"Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog." ~ Doug Larson (Noted on a user profile.)
 
Computers help us solve problems we would not have without them. - Unknown
 
Like it!
 
In my defense, I never realized that dog starvation was going to be an issue when I was choosing courses and careers. I should have studied veterinary medicine instead.
 
(I'm asking for rejections because others have incorrectly approved, and we can't let the dummies win!)
 
@genpfault a bit old... but ok I guess it needs to go...
@Mogsdad user have edited stackoverflow.com/a/47479848/5292302, maybe still VLQ I just wanted to alert you.
@Mogsdad just FYI I have rasied a mod flag on that user... since all latest answer are the same...
 
Ah! I was in the process of doing that myself.
If they actually do make their 11 copied answers into useful ones, fair play to them. I'll invest a bit more effort that way. In the end - if the answers don't improve, the flag should get a mod to clean them out.
 
They should all be deleted ... you can't pass identical answer, they are link only and it's overt-self promotion..
 
9:15 PM
@Olaf It looks like my masquerade is working well :-D ...
 
@PetterFriberg or maybe I should recuse myself from this request since the poster made a personal attack on me
 
baah, you have not answered it, I don't think you are breaking any SOCVR rules, but for sure it has no sense to continue with OP since he is not happy at this moment ;)
 
@PetterFriberg: yes, he's a bit angry.
 
He looks at his own problem and can not see the overall importance of different Q/A's on SO, hence he can't understand your comments and just feel that you are trolling him
 
9:37 PM
@PetterFriberg Try to find any serious documentation (including the official ones) about Delphi or the Win API. You're feeling trolled by seemingly experts all the time :-P ....
 
ooh well as long as they give hints... I'm ok with some trolling ;)
 
@PetterFriberg Hmm, I've had a black friday today. More work waiting for mo(a)ndays.
 
week-end now don't worry about Monday...
@user0042 I'm learning angular and for now I have manage to stay away from SO... it's better to ask question if you know what you are asking about :D
 
@PetterFriberg I'm not worried actually. Read in between the parens. That's what saves my job, no?
 
Ron
9:57 PM
@user0042 Well said.
@user0042 So I guess now you see what I mean by "Ten years wasted with that language".
 
10:20 PM
@user0042 @NathanOliver looks like a post you are involved in got tweeted: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6510846#6510846
 
10:53 PM
^Not in English
 
Why are my tags and links not working?
 
 
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Some and items in the queue as well
 

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