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5:00 PM
@Queen f no mcve
 
@Yvette Yeah I can't understand why it did start working... I still have a feeling the the calls one after another with no SLEEP in between makes a mess (random behavior)
meeh no..
they are defined at top of class...
anyway use asynch : )
 
lemme see. Wait
 
I'm a firm proponent that some code is literally magic.
 
lol
 
Well, I did not start the app lol I am still stuck with "something"
I think I will go with asynch @PetterFriberg
 
user3956566
5:04 PM
@PetterFriberg have a look at my edit also.
 
to me the fact that send and write is one after another (with no sleep in between) is the main problem to that code snippet... but you better check asynch it's really nice... and IMHO the best way to handle serial ports...
 
@PetterFriberg the code works on any machine once we set those parameters.
 
user3956566
just remember async is actually threads that are managed within the language.
 
user3956566
It's not magic
 
user3956566
I like async tasking
 
user3956566
5:05 PM
or you can use a delegate to handle the event
 
user3956566
a timer is also useful
 
And since I used the app to test my wire, it set them for me. Then when I used my code (without setting them) right after I tested my wire. It worked. Why? becayse the values are determined by the last app that used them and not a default value.. Maybe a default when I create the objects.
 
asynch and AutoRestEvent that's the way to rock!
 
user3956566
You can test what they are set at, but logging the values and that will totally demonstrate what is happening
 
^ exactly. Right
 
5:07 PM
the source code is fairly clear it sets to default values...
 
don't forget that you're at least three layers away from the actual hardware, if not more.
 
so no difference if you call like you did or if you add the parameters you did.
 
ehm.. I see
 
if you added different parameters I could have understood why... but setting default parameter as in source code why is it different buhhh?
 
then why the code did not work first, but when I tested the wires with another app, "it suddenly worked"?
@JarrodRoberson flag as not an answer?
 
5:10 PM
private const Parity defaultParity = Parity.None;
private const int defaultDataBits = 8;
private const StopBits defaultStopBits = StopBits.One;
@FirstStep this is what it uses if not specified
 
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@PetterFriberg I know, that's why I chose not to answer it, though I was concerned with the way it was initialized. I didn't like the addition of the values through the constructor and was going to comment on that. You can do that, though I wonder what it does to the other default values @rene Ideas?
 
Then it should have worked from the first attempt
because these are the values that I assigned, for it to then work... (after it worked without them I went to another machine and set them and tried - it worked)
 
I wouldn't rule out magic in the driver
 
@FirstStep meeeh you alwyas have the mess of send then directly read....
 
we're only looking at the managed stuff
 
5:13 PM
@FirstStep go back to original code and just try to set a sleep between
then switch to asynch : )
 
Hans often debugs into the kernel. He might have seen things there that don't like sunlight
 
okay , let me grab a third machine. And use my very original code with a sleep
 
No..... not a Sleep .....
 
Yeah I hope he answer...
 
What then @rene
 
5:14 PM
@rene Don't worry we will switch to asynch later
 
I will just give it a try
 
Ok, nvm then
 
give it a try sleep for 100 ms (just set com port not the other settings)
 
okay here is the code
 
5:17 PM
@FirstStep, you did not change the HandSake correct (in the code you told worked, I can't see this change)
 
brand new com numbers
fire in the whole - ops - excited :P
 
it's "hole" not "whole"
 
PASSED
 
I'll hole your wholes.
 
Worked.
with sleep
now, if I add the parameters and remove sleep.
 
5:18 PM
meeh then you have random behaviour what ever you do... the solution is not to set those 3 params
 
let me get brand new random ports first.
 
why are you changing ports?
 
I wanted to hit the default values
well, I did not need that you are right
 
no but it's not true, see source code only the HandShack can be different, but we never changed that...
 
5:21 PM
and try to not set it will pass as well, and lets close as no repro...
it's random behavior since you have send then read (1 row after the other), so depending on the middle ware... crap happens..
 
where's the meta post about "downvotes being so damn personal"?
 
: ) no repro....
 
@PetterFriberg ehm.. Why I did not see the console window at first?
looks like no repro.. dafuq !
 
you should not do code send next line read on serial port...
 
5:23 PM
maybe at the very first try, it happens. But then never happens anymore
 
I think it's fairly random, depends on all the drivers in the middle... what state they are in...
 
race conditions!
 
certainly passing stopbits etc does not change anything (and Hans edited is answer)
 
F* it, I will use async and make sure it does not happen anymore
 
YEAAHHHH!
 
5:25 PM
@Yvette <3 Happy? Beating 650k+ rep users and stuff
:D
 
haha
 
holy smoke I made him edit the answer... a diamond badge for me
 
Okay off to a ciqarette. Houf !
Thanks @PetterFriberg again and @rene
 
user3956566
I seriously need help with this title @rene @PetterFriberg @FirstStep stackoverflow.com/questions/39297839/…
 
@Yvette note Hans has removed it from his answer.
 
5:27 PM
@Yvette This format is better I guess: When initializing a serialport with a constructor, Are uninitialized attributes given default values other than the default constructor?
 
@Yvette it's a crazy question, naturally it does not... we can see the source code
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg yeh! cos they are given default values
 
brb I need that ciqarette
 
@Yvette well there is HandShake!!!
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg that defaults to none
 
5:30 PM
I read it better, but this is not FirstStep problem since he never changed it....
@Yvette hmm true...
even if not set in constructor
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
Mind you, I always have set it.
 
@Yvette I would change title to something like are there params / attributes that are not set to default values
 
@Queen k
 
user3956566
Nah, I'm interested in what happens to the attributes that are usually given default values
 
user3956566
5:33 PM
@Tunaki ideas?
 
lol
 
@Yvette isn't that answered in the docs for each constructor?
 
Yeah it is...
 
user3956566
> Are uninitialised attributes given default values as they are when using the default constructor?
 
They would normally repeat every time that "invoking this constructor is the same as invoking that constructor with ..."
 
user3956566
5:34 PM
@PetterFriberg care to answer?
 
thats the code : )
 
If they don't, I guess it is unspecified and you can't rely on anything
 
@Yvette no, I would just do a stupid answer showing the constructors...
 
user3956566
@Tunaki doesn't specifically say, hence the question ;)
 
and maybe I would even got it wrong with the Handshake issue..
 
user3956566
5:36 PM
there is someone with the source code
 
Well the source code is online..., that's what I commented to Hans...
 
I'm not a particular fan of answers that are "take a look at the source code"
 
user3956566
this means hans answer is bunk!
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg yeh I know, I didn't go through it. soz
 
Source code can change. Between versions, between implementations of a spec...
 
5:39 PM
@Yvette Don't argue with Hans, he already changed his answer...
 
To me, it is brittle.
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg yeh you've been helpful, I value your assistance and you are a good programmer from what I can see
 
haha
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg no I won't
 
5:39 PM
@Yvette
 
user3956566
yes? cheeky smile
 
well well well
 
well it was a haha for your comment
 
@Tunaki meeh as question is stated, I guess only way, it will be hard to find documentation...
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg checking for reference where I saw default handshake is none
 
user3956566
5:42 PM
> private Handshake handshake = defaultHandshake;
 
meeh need to run cya guys have fun keep a low BaudRate never Handshake and do not eat to many StopBits
 
user3956566
yeh and there was somewhere else actually that I read it was none
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg bye \o
 
Let me re-iterate: that is only the thin wrapper. the real thing is in the private SerialStream and that does a call to CreateFile in the winapi and then fiddles with the DCB block where it seems to eat some WinIOErrors
 
@PetterFriberg o/
 
5:46 PM
o/
 
mind blowing
 
user3956566
@rene thanks rene! this has been interesting
 
user3956566
@FirstStep did you see my updated profile, like right down to the end?
 
@Yvette I went with your answer :)
and I commented my reason why to go with it
Mr SO ;)
 
user3956566
@FirstStep yes I saw that. I cannot ever tell you or anyone to accept an answer, mine or someone else's. You understand?
 
user3956566
5:57 PM
I am gorgeous and handsome. What I am most happy about is, my thinking was right, except I should edit my answer to be technically correct
 
I wanted to warm up and learn about this technology. I think it is enough. Now I need to implement the API the best way possible, with multiple threads for read and write.
It was a cool journey to debug this
I have an interview in c# at 5:30 btw (3 hours from now) lol Allowed to use the internet. I asked if I can contact friends and it is fine they said.
 
I swear we were done with godaddy!
 
i thought the tag was burninated
why are there still 600 questions
 
try with closed:0
 
No
 
user3956566
6:03 PM
@FirstStep I honestly think projects are the best way to learn to program. You're doing the write thing (writing code- did you see what I did there? ;) )
 
@Braiam this was closed and deleted and reopened and undeleted by a moderator
 
Ughh
 
@Tunaki exactly, for no reason whatsoever!
 
retag?
 
no, it's still off topic
 
6:04 PM
@Braiam Ok, but now with this history, a cv-pls is not that appropriate.
 
user3956566
I reckon we shouldn't do burninations, the community wants them, but not the consequences
 
user3956566
meh, serial ports are way more interesting
 
people shouldn't second guess community decisions without a very good motive
 
I have a GoDaddy question.. Since @Yvette was active in burninating that tag, I think she will answer it for me :P
 
Tag it godaddy, we'll close and delete it for you :p
 
6:07 PM
^ - Why do you think I am here :P
I know how your evil fish mind works :P
 
@Yvette lol well, "be patient much more to come" ;)
do me a favor? resize the images in your profile then put them back
 
user3956566
@Braiam what one of the highest voted questions for burning it and you think I'm second guessing? raises eyebrows
 
user3956566
@FirstStep yeh good idea
 
user3956566
sure I have two things to say about godaddy,
1. It's only good for purchasing domain names (it hikes up the prices for renewal)
2. or hosing the simplest of websites
 
@Yvette no Braiam was continuing the discussion with me I think
 
user3956566
6:10 PM
@Tunaki ah k
 
user3956566
You're adding questions back into the godaddy tag. I thought you were at least removing the tag. If you are going to undo, disagree with the communities work, at least assist with the burnination. not make it harder. — Yvette 2 mins ago
 
user3956566
Seriously, we need to go on strike for a month, all of us, in charcoal also and see if everyone still hates us
 
user3956566
:32636644 grabs lostmind and yanks him back lol
 
user3956566
oh it worked! lol
 
and gone
 
6:12 PM
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind grabs him back by whisps of clothing puff he's vanished mod magic
 
well, not yet
 
lol
 
but soon™
btw, is the title alright? It sounds weird
 
"sounds"
 
user3956566
6:15 PM
I like it, I'm out of votes everywhere or I would've voted it up
 
I don't mind breaking some parts of the Internet if it helps the whole.
 
me neither... but I feel we are minority
 
@Yvette Thread readThread = new Thread(Read); What is Read? Please provide a MCVE :P
 
user3956566
@FirstStep another method, scroll down
 
^ ops. "overwhelmed"
 
user3956566
6:18 PM
> public static void Read()
 
user3956566
;)
 
user3956566
how is this still on the site? stackoverflow.com/questions/1225103/…
 
@Yvette _continue is not declared anywhere on there site
 
user3956566
> _continue = true;
 
user3956566
it's a bool value
 
user3956566
6:25 PM
to loop
 
ok, this baffles me, do anyone has any idea why would someone downvote the stats request?
the only answer I could came up is "we don't want to know"
 
I know, I don't want global variables. I will declare it in "main" and pass it to Read
 
user3956566
@FirstStep you can declare it anywhere
 
user3956566
and no it shouldn't be global
 
@Braiam your wording is passive aggresive
 
6:26 PM
^ lol
 
user3956566
@FirstStep how you choose to loop and all that is up to you
 
user3956566
 
yeah, that is where we have moderators for
 
@rene err, what is passive aggressive about it?
 
@Queen k
Hi everyone
 
6:30 PM
@Braiam breaking the internet the first comment from Animuson is in the same direction.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ o/
 
user3956566
@rene you agree?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ hey
 
@FirstStep Why did you mention me in the early afternoon? Something needed to call me by? (I'm not chatting at work)
 
@rene AFAIK that is the go to phrase used when a link goes dead, isn't it?
"don't break the intertet" -> "don't delete content that it's linked elsewhere"
 
6:36 PM
@Yvette if a mod thinks we delete value that is serious business, yes. Now I'm not thrilled that this should stay, but hey without the tag, if that is what is needed, sure.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ i needed some help and i pinged you too
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sorry. Was it by mistake I think ..
 
user3956566
this burnination has been a waste of time
 
yeah agree Yvette
 
Question: Why is a site visit count considers UTC Time instead of user's timezone? It is not that critical in the forum but curious to know the reason behind this consideration. I'm in UTC-6, which makes my day ends before 7 PM now; But, practically my day still have 5 hours left
 
6:38 PM
@Braiam sure, you ask for the down votes, I explain. You have the convince the voters that your question is not yet another SE sucks MSO post.
 
@rene actually, I think SE is awesome
the users on the other hand....
 
@techspider What do you mean by site visit?
 
@techspider What forum do you mean? SO is not a forum.
 
@Tunaki When we go to our profile, there is "visited xx days, xxx consecutive"
@JanDvorak yeah, my bad!!
 
@techspider Ah. Everything is UTC based on the site, so days are UTC days yeah.
 
6:41 PM
@Braiam I don't get that initial impression from your post ... I'm one of those other hand users
 
@Tunaki Is n't it unfair to those with big difference to UTC? They will definitely lose considerable hours in their actual day :)
 
@techspider If my day and your day were different and we were having a discussion related to times of the day, we'd've ended up confused.
 
@rene well, maybe different culture. And the "other hand users" are those that for the sake of not breaking a single link prefer to leave rotting content on the site
 
@DEAD UTC time for logging purposes is good; but I'm only asking about "site visit"
 
@techspider I prefer to be in your timezone.
 
6:43 PM
I agree with animuson's comment, you see?
 
@techspider If you only visited the site at 8 p.m. UTC, you'd still have everyday. I don't understand your complaint.
 
@ColdFire Seen that ping as well. You can invite me for a private chat.
 
@DEAD Not complaint; I have recently noticed a funny badge for site :) Usually, I don't login on weekends; so this time I thought of doing so and only last Saturday I figured out that SO considers activity on UTC time but not my time; Though I logged in on Sunday, it didn't treat me as if I logged-in :)
 
@techspider Oh well, now you know how things are, so silently earn your lunatic fanatic badge and have fun.
I remember how I considered a lunatic badge on Chem a big deal.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ yeah my company just gave me some server side .Net Code so i am trying to understand it i will ping you when I dont understand something is that fine?
 
6:48 PM
lol... yeah :)
 
Yahoo, on the other hand, keeps deleted questions in results for ages. — Shog9 ♦ 29 secs ago
remember, Yahoo sucks guys. kthksbye!
 
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@FirstStep cheers bud I will edit this and then go to bed
 
@ColdFire My c#/.net knowledge is a bit rusty right now, but I wouldn't feel bothered if you contact me (don't expect too much though ;) )
 
@πάνταῥεῖ well i have 0 knowledge on D.net code so anything you do will be better than mine :)
 
6:53 PM
@ColdFire You are confident dude :D LOL
 
haha yeah i have confidence in my 0 knowledge of .NET
 
I have confidence in your zero knowledge.
How cool am I.
 
@ColdFire I've been at least working with that s__t roundabout 10 yrs ago, and it's frequently changing. But well, as mentioned I won't feel bothered.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ well i never even wrote a demo .net program ever it is just that i have to understand that code and write the same in android
 
@ColdFire Uhh, I even have zero knowledge regarding android on top. But may be there are basic design things I could try to clarify for you.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ no no you misunderstood i know about android , so you just need to tell that what a method does in .NET i will figure out the rest
 
@DEAD Don't whip them that hard :)
 
prepares some nukes dubbed "spam flags"
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@dorukayhan You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
7:06 PM
when did this plop get unpinned?
 
@dorukayhan When sense prevailed
 
@dorukayhan Somebody fixed the leak.
 
yeah that should have been pinned
 
I have a counter idea
don't
 
7:09 PM
@dorukayhan I'm a moderationist and I delete all teh things
 
> This chat message is locked for its historal significance but is not considered a good, on-topic chat message.
3
 
@Tunaki lol
 
@Tunaki needed more jQuery probably.
 
@Yvette Cheers. You were unstoppable today ;)
Good night (morning) invincible
@ColdFire I have been learning c# and SOreadyToHelp. let me know if you need anything
 
@FirstStep thanks
 
7:20 PM
@ColdFire I am learning Android :D
 
@FirstStep nice well i am an android expert
 
@ColdFire Sorry I missed your message earlier about "the nice tag". It was a "heated discussion" right there
 
yeah i can see that
 
7:51 PM
is there a way to not hear the ping when an event is near (other than turning the volume down)?
 
@dorukayhan only the ping sound in general - there's a little speaker icon top right next to the "all rooms" button...
 
!!/coffee
 
@dorukayhan brews coffee for @dorukayhan
 
Evening \o
 
@kayess o/
 
8:03 PM
@dorukayhan Hiya \o
 
@Serlite isn't it more off-topic than unclear?
 
@Queen k
 
@dorukayhan It likely is off-topic as well if he clarified his question, more than one close reason applies here. It's just generally...not suitable for SO.
 
a bit late
@Clo start event
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
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@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:32 PM
Tunaki passed a audit!
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 23 minutes and 18 seconds, averaging to a review every 34 seconds.
 
@Queen f
 
gn guys
 
@ColdFire N8
 
@FirstStep I had to answer it, even if told my self to not answer questions in c# and java anymore : )
 
8:55 PM
@PetterFriberg why not?
 
Meeh FGTIW, already to many... I like the low traffic stuff
 
You like to leave the too broad, unclear stuff for me : )
 
@PetterFriberg lol that Q gave you Nostalgia :p I saw it. I have a q in my head still. But driving now. Will comment on your answer
 
is "Chief Fooxecutive Officer at Bar" a unique title?
 
9:04 PM
rene passed a audit!
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 30 minutes and 29 seconds, averaging to a review every 45 seconds.
 
@FirstStep : ) while @Yvette answers works providing a good solution, it does not really answer why (no offense), Hans answer is fairly vague... I could not leave it like that...
 
@queen test Get your laptop and a motorcycle, let it run faster.
 
9:20 PM
@Queen Well done sweetie ;)
 
user4639281
Just got my second monitor in, so happy, wanted to share my happiness. imgur.com/a/SaIkx
 
She dun goofed
 
@Queen test Online training in NodeJS
 
She's meant to detect rudeness, not spam, IIUC
 
9:22 PM
This question was locked by a puppy but its owner will never return. When will it be roomba-ed in its current state?
 
@TinyGiant where nice setup, with a nice credit card reader, veriphone?
 
@Queen test I loaded my belongings on the ass, my black cock crow, and my golden pussy cat meowed.
Hehe
 
Congrats, you hit 10/10.
 
@JanDvorak Inviting someone for a motorcycle tour isn't rude actually :P
 
@Tunaki With a non-offensive sentence too :D
 
9:23 PM
TIL the Queen bee secretely hates animals
 
hmm, have fun in SOCVFinder before rene force me disable the command in here : )
 
Reminds me of the blonde chick with a nice pussy picture.
2
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg yep
 
user4639281
@MadaraUchiha hilarious
 
@TinyGiant Similar pictures include "blonde chick and a big black cock" and "Asian girls eating pussy"
 
user4639281
9:26 PM
lol
 
Although, I wouldn't search for those if you're at work, as they're less famous :D
 
user4639281
Yeah, no searching for that at work
 
Eating cats, really?
 
@JanDvorak Just putting them in their mouth, not actually eating them.
 
The pussy does look unhappy
So does the girl, though
 
9:28 PM
That's not the one I remember
But close enough
 
Pumped more heat actually:
@CaptainObvlious We're clueless what to hammer in 1st place so far :P I have a hammer, I can only handle nails actually. — πάντα ῥεῖ 2 mins ago
 
and then there's this famous quote
That's a onebox, BTW, that @πάνταῥεῖ just posted.
 
@JanDvorak A small one. yes
@JanDvorak How weird is that??
 
9:50 PM
hOi @Ed.
 
Status: delurked
 
@JanDvorak Essence left
It's a pity. I can't hold on getting snarky :/
 
@MadaraUchiha Do you still do that 500 bounty thing?
 
@Rizier123 Yup.
 
Okay. Just wanted to know.
 

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