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9:02 AM
great way to start a new day with a flag:P
morning
 
Guten tag herr Andras \o
 
Plop Andras
 
@kayess Another german?
 
@Seth another Hungarian:P
 
@AndrasDeak Ahh :P
 
9:11 AM
@Kyll plop
 
9:30 AM
What to do with this.... ? As we know fun isn't allowed
 
I think something like that might go to programmers or whatever, but definitely off-topic here
Well, not definitely, but in my opinion.
and the question should probably be rewritten to better shape
 
@kayess it is opinion based if not broad, maybe even asking for an offsite resource
 
@rene I thought about that picture...
 
T J
First time seeing a queen bee doing work
Should be named worker instead
 
no, she's instructing the workers and the drones
"work, maggots!"
 
T J
9:42 AM
Oh so tuna is a worker bee... I get it lol
 
Sam
@Ferrybig Funny thing about that, there isn't a timeout.
 
@Sam Could you restart the bot / add a timeout, so @QPaysTaxes can add himself to the reviewers?
 
@Kyll please don't pile on
 
@rene Wasn't there some kind of exception for Praveen as his feedback was ignored unless someone else did one too?
I may have misread the thing though
 
yesterday, by ArtOfCode
@PraveenKumar welcome back to the land of the unignored.
read that ^ ?
 
9:48 AM
Nope.
 
then there you go;)
 
Don't mind me then, I'm going to be in this corner over there
 
@Kyll I'm told that pilling on should be prevented. If we now have to take into account the fact that some users are ignored by Smokey I'm kind of lost and can't possible moderate that.
 
I thought it was a good thing to have multiple feedback, in edge cases or something
 
@rene Ignored by Smokey unless piling on occurs, yes, but apparently it's changed yesterday.
 
9:50 AM
@rene well you can always look at metasmoke to see the feedbacks, but I wouldn't want to do that in your place either
the necessity of such a workaround would be the hallmark of a system that doesn't work right
 
@AndrasDeak Maybe the medicine is worse then the disease?
 
well, I wouldn't go that far, since the disease should be treated stat
but doing so shouldn't cost an arm and a leg for the doctor;)
 
Sam
@Ferrybig Sure.
@Clo shutdown
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
Hello everyone! (Sam's Backup Server)
 
@Louis Commented to OP
@QPaysTaxes You may want to try again with Closey
 
Yam
9:58 AM
GraveRobber started 2.0.0 (debug).
 
Sam
@Kyll He'll need to wait a couple of mins.
 
@Kyll Thanks. I was about to do that but did not know how quite to put it (I wanted to explain the prompt the OP gets to confirm the duplicate) and then got distracted. (Oh... shiny.... brb.)
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 43 posts.
 
ffk
 
10:02 AM
@rene Honestly, if it's difficult to police then don't worry about it - we can watch from metasmoke. But yeah, the system currently works so that ignored users have to have their feedback confirmed by a second feedback.
 
Sam
@QPaysTaxes If you need any help, feel free to ping me.
@QPaysTaxes Congrats!
 
@ArtOfCode wait, you guys call out SOCVR and even have @Undo ping me while you all seem to agree that something needs to be done and now in my first push-back you walk away? I hope you understand I find that highly confusing at best, not only for me but also for the regulars I address here. Can CharCoal first get their own act together please?
 
@rene woah-kay. I'm not aware of anything that's gone on in this room about feedback duplication, who's pinged who or said what. I'm not walking away; I'm saying if you think this is too much for you guys to effectively moderate then don't moderate it, and the Charcoal team can moderate it instead.
 
OKay, I can live with that
 
We can keep you guys updated with who's currently ignored and needs confirmation, if that helps. (Nobody, right now.)
 
10:13 AM
@ArtOfCode Why change of DP?
 
What else can we do that would help you?
@PraveenKumar DP?
 
Display Pic
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oh
 
@ArtOfCode there seems to be something about multiple feedbacks being bad. Is that right? (I'm not involved, just a curious bystander)
 
@PraveenKumar It's June 23, EU referendum day.
 
10:14 AM
because if multiple feedbacks are bad, then there shouldn't be multiple feedbacks, unless the previous user is ignored, and this is the complication/administrative overhead @rene is talking about
 
Oh yea! :D
 
@ArtOfCode I personally find it really confusing but if that helps in deciding to pile or not and be in the clear about it, sure, let's try that
 
@AndrasDeak yeah, I get that. We're looking into systems on the tech side to help us with this, rather than relying totally on social moderation
It's just a case of getting the implementation right.
 
@ArtOfCode so regarding my previous question: are really multiple feedbacks bad?
It seemed to me that of old there were multiple feedbacks happily, and multiple checkmarks in metasmoke, etc.
 
@AndrasDeak Personally? I don't mind 'em. But it seems to be the Charcoal stance that we should try to avoid them.
They don't do any harm, no, but they are unnecessary. One feedback marks the post as necessary in metasmoke.
 
10:17 AM
@ArtOfCode well now what matters is the official stance:)
but thanks, I get it
 
@PraveenKumar and I'm flying the red because I feel like it
 
@ArtOfCode :D
 
I could, technically, fly white, but this is a civilian environment not a warship.
and I don't have a blue warrant so I can't fly that
 
@AndrasDeak I consider them bad if there is a train on feedbacks and or late feedbacks but that is just because it is also needless noise in the transcript and gaming of the QA of metasmoke. Given the fact I want/expect/try to be this room to be on a higher standard I need to address both issues
 
10:21 AM
okay
As a simple solution I suggest informing ignored users about their ignored state (I believe this is already the case), and asking them to provide pseudo-feedback to Smokey
such as "that's a k" or something
then unignored users clearly see that a proper feedback is pending
that sort of pushes most of the overhead to ignored users, who possibly shouldn't be feeding back to begin with
 
@AndrasDeak I was thinking have Smokey post a message asking for confirmation, actually
 
as in "I noticed you are currently being ignored [how ironic], will someone please give proper feedback"?
Well, most messages like this could get self-deleted, I guess. But it is a bit of additional noise, even if temporary
(but again, I'm just curious, I have no practical interest in the matter from either side)
 
Yeah, it is quite noisy
 
10:45 AM
afk
 
11:00 AM
What close reason for this?
It's awful
 
migrate to MSO, let Hans Passant deal with it
 
rofl, poor guy
 
unclear/tool rec? too broad?
@Kyll I was joking
 
@AndrasDeak I know, but it's actually sound
 
no, it's not
it's about programming SO, and it's crap
 
11:04 AM
It's asking whether or not SO provides a way to display a bunch of specific questions
 
"can you tell me how the api works", probably, or "tell me how to do what I want to do", probably
anyway, we need 5 votes for a reason:)
 
Otherwise, yep, Unclear
 
@Kyll doesn't "that meta answer" say that both spam and rude/offensive go to spamram?
 
@AndrasDeak Does it?
 
Last time I read it that's what it seemed to me, the one by Undo
do take a look, I got very unsure last time
 
11:07 AM
Oh yeah, but not the same way I guess?
 
My realization is around here
 
Dont think that that's spam, it's an ugly question though.
 
I think that's just a crappy question
 
Oh, I hazn't privileges in here.
 
11:24 AM
Good morning!
 
@Floern Golly, that's an ugly question :/
@JacobGray Morning! :)
 
foxy avatar, hey @Ashish
 
@AshishAhujaツ Anti-Plop, what's up with your avatar? :o
 
Nothing. I just wanted to change from my old boring cartoon avatar
 
11:29 AM
Plop Ashish
 
@Kyll Reverse-Plop
I don't understand how this edit was approved.
 
woooow that's bad
hmm...accepted answerer rewrote the question to avoid getting it closed
no, to reopen it!
 
Morning
 
Plop Nathan
 
well, it conflicts with author's original intent, but if the answer is accepted and works...
I don't know @Ashish
hey @Nathan
 
11:38 AM
Morning @nathan!
@AndrasDeak I would strictly go against that edit. I've rolled it back. It introduces code, and what not which the OP might have never meant. I'm okay with edits which help to reopen a post. But if they change the meaning of a post, or add their own content, I reject
 
@AshishAhujaツ I would've rejected to, but once approved...I don't know. Maybe I would've asked the OP to roll back if they disagree with the edit
it's a fairly new post after all
link-only, crap question to begin with
 
Wooo, 400 rep to 10k (thanks to Madara)! It will be hard to not repwhore myself out the rest of the way
 
@AndrasDeak I agree that it would be better to ask the OP, but well. I would still go against it. It's not an edit which changes some part of the post, it changes it's completed meaning
 
@AshishAhujaツ yes, but in my personal, subjective opinion rolling back an approved borderline edit and rejecting it before aproval are different
but it doesn't really matter:)
 
11:46 AM
Agree :)
 
@AshishAhujaツ Yes. It is give me links or tell me I need to make my own.
 
@NathanOliver thanks. I'll then flag it as that
Should we add queen to the list of bots in the FAQ Bots section in the blog?
 
12:04 PM
only if she doesn't murder all the drones after they have played their part
 
Yay I cast the last flag
 
rub it in
 
you got an error pop-up didn't you
 
no, didn't even see the report, just the ping:(
work has an adverse effect on my activity on SO:P
Sooo... question about courtesy/proper actions. I wrote a Q&A about a narrower field. It still needs some improvements, but I think it can be used to hammer several questions. Is it OK if I (after sufficient discussion with the smaller, language-related community) find unanswered posts which are applicable, and have them hammered with a gold badger (after sufficient discussion with said gold badger)?
 
12:14 PM
@AndrasDeak If the Q&A is well received I don't see why not.
 
it seems to be, it's been over a almost a week and I have no downvotes
final version of the previous message, now makes sense:D
 
@AndrasDeak How many up votes?
 
twenty-something
 
The seems well received to me.
 
@AndrasDeak And how many puppets?
 
12:16 PM
 
@Tunaki just the two
but they can vote both on Q and A:P
I still want to discuss with the python guys too, I'm just working from the broader group to the narrower one:)
thanks
 
that is canonical material - sure go ahead and find a hammer
 
@AndrasDeak Oh well. You got a 500 rep Madara bounty from tha q & a. Great
 
thak you:)
 
12:18 PM
@AndrasDeak You even have the blessing of one user already: stackoverflow.com/questions/37872171/…
 
@NathanOliver well I need more than the blessing of one user for group hammering, I need community support:P
(and thanks, all)
 
@AndrasDeak The person holding the hammer still has to agree ;)
 
psh. Go rogue. That is what I do ;)
 
@Tunaki yeah, Bhargav will be my final step:D
 
Rats, the api quota for my bot doesn't reset for another 6 hours... Guess I have to go start working now
 
12:19 PM
:)
 
@JacobGray you used all the quota?
Do you have an API key?
 
@Tunaki My bot isn't registered yet
 
Ok, consider register for one :)
 
@Tunaki Yeah, I'm gonna once I get a little further along in development
 
12:37 PM
morning!
 
hey
 
@gunr2171 Morning!
 
'fternoon
 
Plop @gunr!
Plop @Adriaan!
 
Hello
I hate life
 
12:40 PM
Plop @Magisch!
 
don't hate life!
 
I hafe lite!
 
@Magisch what did life do to you?
 
Its 37,5C Outside and 35C in our office and we're not allowed to use the AC
 
you can't start hating life until life actually delivers lemons to your place.
 
12:40 PM
@Magisch why not?:O
 
They did an analysis of it last year and determined AC to be too expensive so now it is not allowed to be used.
 
morning
 
Plop @ryan!
 
Plot twist, Magisch is at a sauna right now
 
Hiya gunr
 
12:41 PM
@AshishAhujaツ I so happy you went with a fennekin as an avatar.
 
Also
 
@ryanyuyu welcome
 
Open Source is a relegion that requires to make your work public. There are other possibiliies to provide source code to the customer. Defining the version in the header is a more sensible option. — harper 2 hours ago
On an answer of mine
why <_<
 
We've been under heat advisory for the past week or so.
 
@Magisch Convert to Farenheit. 35F is much cooler
 
12:44 PM
@Machavity 37,5C = 99,5F
35C = 95F
 
Lol, didn't mean literally
shoulda been clearer
 
Wow I just got an accept and an up vote on an answer from over a year ago.
 
Its way too warm for me to get subtle irony
3
 
@Magisch RPi + Sensor = Taking every 1 minute data => imgur.com/ryigYN9
 
Yeah that's about what it's been here, with 50% humidity
 
12:45 PM
@Machavity stop writing your jokes in double quotes, then it won't be a literal.
 
clap clap
 
:D
 
Imagine a compiler that requires floating point literal inside double quotes.
 
like javascript?
 
javascript doesn't do that
 
12:50 PM
I heard Arizona is going to hit 48C this week. That's why Celsius is so depressing. You realize you're halfway to boiling to death. Meanwhile, in Farenheit land, most people are having to stop and think "What was the boiling point again?"
 
@Machavity yes, but then we need to deal with this
 
JAL
hi all
 
hey
 
JAL
@QPaysTaxes congrats on 3k!
 
Hi @gunr!
 
12:51 PM
^ yay
 
hi
 
JAL
morning gunr, did you get any further with the phishing executable?
 
no :( I gave up
 
@JAL phishing exe?
 
@Machavity 48c jesus christ I can't even function properly above 30
 
12:52 PM
@Machavity I actually do prefer Fahrenheit for temperature measurement. Everything else, I'd rather use metric if other Americans would just make the switch.
@Magisch At least it's a dry heat.
 
@ArtOfCode read from here down a bit
 
@ryanyuyu Yah here we don't dip below 90% humidity
 
@queen too broad
 
JAL
Literally was about to VTC this but noooope, bounty added 1 minute ago
 
sounds a bit broad
 
JAL
12:57 PM
yeah it is, debating writing up an answer. not worth a bounty flag
but you know me, i love playing with bounty fire
 
I didn't actually know that
 
You know that that's illegal, eh?
Quoting your own answer like a boss.
 
thanks google translate for epicly failing on that one
 
@Seth I know
 
JAL
@ryanyuyu Yeah I flag a lot of bounties. I post a lot on meta about declined mod flags when trying to close bounty questions
 
12:58 PM
But you know whats also not a good idea
 
@gunr2171 oh cool
 
to sue or report the company who is responsible for most of your grade
 
@ArtOfCode I still have the file, just haven't done any more work on it
(though happy to try again with help)
 
@JAL Oh I remember the most recent one. The bounty used as a shout out to a specific answer.
 

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