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4:00 PM
The voting on the top answer is not clear to me.
It start with "Don't do it" then says "Do it the other way around". Then concludes "But don't do it".
 
So are the votes for the "do it the other way around" part? Or the other part? :)
 
@Tunaki Feel free to comment as such. ;) I feel like a lot of this chat room debate gets lost on the "important" issues of the day.
 
@Tunaki I know right? Well the second highest scoring answer is "don't do this" so I guess that's the consensus?
 
The second answer concedes they are the same subject though.
And the SE Tour says that tags are for subject, not intent.
So logic.
 
4:04 PM
 
<-- heavily biased at this point
 
@Tunaki looking at the timeline most of the votes were from the do it the other way around revision not the don't do it revision.
 
^ agreee Nathan.
Triple e so much I agree.
 
@Tunaki I thought you were talking to tripleee at first
 
Is that something we should ask the author to rollback? He basically reversed his position, thereby invalidating most of the votes.
 
4:06 PM
I don't know.
 
I left a comment.
 
I see another Meta Q in the future ;)
 
@NathanOliver That one's been discussed.
Ok world, I'm going back to work for now.
 
Bye o/
 
Cya o/
 
4:09 PM
Thanks \o
 
yep see you later
 
Actually @ryanyuyu, all of the votes came before the edit.
I'm tempted to think it should be rolled back.
 
JAL
@AlexanderO'Mara Any update on your flag?
 
I agree. I can rollback and leave a comment. The author can vote however they want, but they shouldn't negate any existing voting on their post.
 
Yeah
 
4:17 PM
sorry @NathanOliver I disagree. I realize we need bad tags so this room can exist but let not start endorsing them from the start
 
This room would exist pretty damn well even without bad tags =p
 
@Tunaki comment posted. Does that sum things up well?
 
@Kyll really ;)
 
@rene Made edit
 
@Kyll But we spent a long time designing a bad tag creator machine...
 
4:19 PM
@Tunaki shhh
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
\o/
why do I even click since I know I'm out of flags...
 
@NathanOliver I'm not convinced yet...
 
@rene I don't even get the question...
 
I think they want the tag gone
Which I agree with
 
4:26 PM
@rene I've v'd-tc that one because the granddaddy AngularJS tag burn request has an (active?) answer from Kevin Brown on it. That would be the place to handle this request.
 
So it's a burninate-request not a discussion.
 
I almost edited it out already until I saw nathan's answer
 
The 2nd question with the tag is... hmm.
 
@Suever Are you sure about that? Questions cannot be duplicates of themselves
 
I was about to edit it out but I was not sure if we want something specific to reactivex Single. If we don't that's fine but I am not going to make that call myself.
 
4:28 PM
@Mogsdad Sorry that's a bad link the dupe is this stackoverflow.com/questions/29828345/…
 
@NathanOliver I pinged the user that probably created the tag, I hope they chime in
 
Cool
 
@rene You probably pinged the user that created the tag?? Or you pinged the user that probably created the tag?
 
Let's -out Nathan.
 
@Suever OK, seeded. I'm not expert at the topic, so if this comes back to bite, I'm sticking your hand into the Shoggy Dog's mouth!
 
4:29 PM
@Tunaki Go ahead :P
 
And if the former, did you definitely ping someone, who you think is probably the one that created the tag, or did you probably ping someone, but not definitely, who definitely created the tag? :-D
 
@JAL The unclear bounty one? No. It has been edited since too.
 
Poor Closey...
 
@Mogsdad You can hold me to it!
 
JAL
@AlexanderO'Mara yep noticed
 
4:31 PM
@TylerH you find a room for yourself and @Jan to discuss the correct grammar and spelling, OK? ;)
 
I never noticed before, but that flower definitely has a "not having fun" face on it!
 
@Mogs I think you should play Undertale
 
As long as it's not an elephant's tail I'm under, sure!
 
...
 
nevermind me
 
4:33 PM
You all get a room ...
4
 
Okay Oprah
 
@Kyll Added to wish list!
 
@rene What a French thing to advise, rene
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
JAL
This lacks MCVE right?
 
4:37 PM
Looks that way yes.
 
@JAL Definitely.
 
@JAL Yes and voted that way
 
JAL
ty all
 
There is no all here but your welcome from me ;)
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
4:41 PM
Reflag, please... edited. stackoverflow.com/a/36627131/1677912
 
JAL
4:55 PM
@Mogsdad Ugh, what a crap accepted answer on that question...
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
vvv
 
@JAL Yeah... I'd decided to move on rather than respond to trolling, but have voted now.
 
JAL
thank you
 
"formal question", mumble, mumble.
 
Sam
4:59 PM
afk
 
Hey Closey wake up
 
Might have crashed on you?
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version bcc6adcc on master, running for 1 hour, 18 minutes, and 55 seconds (tracking latency 990ms).
 
@rene She has a crash on him
 
5:05 PM
Hmm, not commenting on that ...
 
But Closey... You didn't notice the end of my reviews.
 
You just did
 
@Sam --------------------------^
 
@Mogs Fine
 
5:09 PM
@Mogsdad Too much would be using a spam flag for linking to his own blog
 
@Ferrybig Uh, oh.
 
JAL
i did the same, no worries mogs
you get a disputed flag, everyone gets a disputed flag! /o/ \o\
 
(Actually custom flagged with "all posts" explanation, and the fact that I added the affiliation info to previous answers.)
 
@Mogsdad Custom flag is better yeah.
Actually I did just that today with an OP that had 7 answers poiting to the same site.
I added Scooby Snacks and a 10-year old Scotch. Flag helpful.
 
@Ferrybig... would it be appropriate to blacklist this user with Smokey? (Honest question.)
@Tunaki Ick. Just 10-year old?
 
5:13 PM
Yeah. It was enough apparently :)
 
10-year old? That's cheap, Tuna
 
@Mogsdad I was about to say the same thing
 
Mods these days you know.
They have no taste.
 
@Tunaki Ah, true... must cater to their tastes.
 
@Tuna And suddenly they had a fried fish envy.
 
5:14 PM
Hugs favourite 15-yr-old Dalwhinnie. "Don't worry, Dally, I won't share you..."
Wishes for 25-yr-old, but can't afford it. Drams on...
 
I have had that 15-yr-old Dalwhinnie. It was good. Best I have had is my macallan 15
 
darn, I thought you were talking about a 15 table row old
 
No, my tables are fresh
 
Sam
@Tunaki hmm
Did you do 40?
 
Sure did.
@Closey my stats
 
5:23 PM
@Tunaki You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 33 minutes and 41 seconds, averaging to a review every 50 seconds.
 
@Kyll @Tunaki can one of you edit this in the auto-comment for new burnination requests: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/320959/…
 
Gn
Reading
Uh, okay then
Meh
Just need to add "only" then
 
Sam
@Closey Huh, that's odd.
 
"Avoid only mass-editing..."
Let me PR dat
asking the French guys to run English checks grmnf
 
@Kyll no, and the extra sentence
 
5:27 PM
Ah, right, your comment
Okay, got it
 
@Closey my stats
 
@Mogsdad You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
Doesn't feel that way...
 
@Mogsdad You've reviewed -1 posts today.
 
@gunr You broke maths again ^
 
5:29 PM
he wrote "15-tr-old"
then fixed it
oh, wait
@Closey group stats details
 
@gunr2171 Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean status?
 
sam, what did you rename it to?
@Closey commands
 
@gunr2171 Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
 
Sam
@gunr2171 room stats details
 
add review [review id] [user id] - Manually adds a review to a user. Should only be used for testing.
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
5:31 PM
@Closey room stats details
 
@gunr2171 Today, 3 members have reviewed a total of 84 items.
 | User   | Review Items Today |
 |-----------------------------|
 | Tunaki | 40                 |
 | Tushar | 40                 |
 | Yvette | 4                  |
 
@rene PR made. I suggest you suggest to NathanTuggy to delete his comments, suggest to Tuna to update his auto-comment, and why suggest to Tuna or me not to post the new one.
 
OK
 
When will the unofficial SOCVR process get pointed to the meta instead of Github?
 
Too many suggestions @Kyll. I crashed. Can you reboot me and start over?
 
5:38 PM
@Tunaki Get out of this body, Eve! The suggestions wren't meant for you
 
@Closey Really?
Looks at the watch there are quite some hours that have passed from the day.
I'm a bit sure you have more reviews than that.
 
Closey was restarted earlier
 
Oh. Rebellion screws up stats.
 
@DavidG it is a bit hidden in this answer: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/319917/578411
 
@SmokeDetector Why?
Heh
 
5:42 PM
Elitma attention they are the top spammers..
 
Eltima Serial Port Monitor is a classic spam target
But this doesn't look like spam
 
member for a year, lets leave it.
@Tunaki font-extension you do add adding your own jar. I can not understand this "1- Export the font as .jar file from IREPORT and add it to my project [ Not a Clean way, Since i'm using maven ].", You can't add your own jar in maven, then it really su**s! : )
 
@PetterFriberg Well you need to install it first. There's a nice canonical for that
 
JAL
Does that count as attribution? The company is in the user's username
 
Thought of that, decided no.
 
5:45 PM
@Mogsdad spam?
 
@Tunaki I think so.
 
Spam yeah
 
Not 1 rep though
 
user posting multiple answer only promoting his product without affiliation in the answer
That's pretty much the definition of spam
 
@Kyll There are 5 of those.
Maybe a custom flag?
 
5:46 PM
Meh
 
There are 1M dubs on font-extension, but this question is about adding your on jar (font-extension jar to class path) with out using the default font-extension jar distributed. I do not know or you answer how you add your own jar or we just leave it and move on...
 
@Tunaki Flag it all, IMO.
 
Are we supposed to be nice to not-1-rep spammers? if so, then yeah custom flag
 
just one custom flag, please
 
@PetterFriberg Moving on then.
 
5:47 PM
Urgh, fine then.
 
Yeah lets move one
 
They have non-trivial contributions
 
^ agree
 
With all the angry OP you got its not bad with some "A big thank you to Mr @Tunaki for helping me to solve this issue."
 
You can become a + scoring user with "answers" like this.
 
JAL
 
@PetterFriberg :)
 
JAL
@Mogsdad let's close that
 
Is there official guidance on users with non-trivial contribution spamming?
Because we do all agree that this was spam
 
@Kyll Don't know.
 
@Kyll Custom flag is best
 
5:50 PM
That's what I've done also but is there a Meta somewhere?
 
Done - custom flags take so long...
 
Usually in this case a message is all it takes to get them to start adding real attribution.
 
@Undo I can understand why, but still. Is that our call as a community to make? Or should it be the diamond reviewer's?
 
Custom flag is there ^^^^
 
5:51 PM
Thanks
 
Most of the questions answered by that guy are trash anyway
 
@JAL That's a kind of answer.
 
@Kyll It's your call what to flag it as, but keep in mind that moderators often don't get a chance to see spam flags if they reach the 6-flag threshold.
In this case, it's better to have someone reach out to the user than to just silently nuke their posts.
 
@Undo wat? I thought all community deletions were reviewed o_o
 
@Kyll not... really.
 
5:53 PM
O_O
Uh.
 
sometimes I'll go through the deleted:1 locked:1 search and look for obvious badness, and to destroy a bunch of spammers, but there's no autoflag or anything.
There's a request on meta somewhere
 
..... wat
 
But for now, if you want a moderator to look at it, and deletion by you and your peers wouldn't cut it, it's best to throw a custom flag on it.
These are fast ones to handle, anyway.
 
I thought all community deletions then ran through a special diamond queue to nuke users and reviews the legitimacy of the flags
 
nope, but they really really should
 
5:55 PM
Still locked in wat
 
@Kyll No, that's why Madara wanted a special page on Metasmoke.
That lists spammers caught by Smokey on SO.
 
Most places where people congregate to flag stuff are fairly sane about not 6-flag nuking legit stuff, SOCVR definitely is
But the number of one-off bad spam flags I decline... ick.
If it's got a link, it's probably got a spam flag on it. Not that bad, but you get the idea.
 
There was a Meta somewhere with the breakdown of helpful / declined flag by flag type.
 
...... wat
 
@Nathan When our worlds intersect, the question is generally bad... stackoverflow.com/q/36630593/1743880
 
6:03 PM
@Tunaki I saw. I wanted to comment that in Java one must CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
2
 
JAL
lol
 
and now we have:
@FirstStep, I got it perfectly. C++ has one letter and 2 pluses, makes it twice as good as C. But still one letter! JAVA has 4 letters, so it beats C++ by 3 letters. However, since there 3 times more letters, JAVA will use 3 times more resources than C++. — SergeyA 1 min ago
 
Haha
 
Flagging all the thing as non-constructive because I need to increase my helpful comment flags count
 
JAL
So, got into a discussion with an iOS power user on my self-answered question about object decorators here. If there was an llvm or xcode-exclusive object decorator, would you add the tag to your language question? My question is about Objective-C but could also potentially apply to C++.
 
6:09 PM
@NathanOliver We require more Vespene gas
 
@JAL .... No idea
 
JAL
mostly aiming at the c/c++ folks
I'd lol if JavaScript had pointer decorators
 
@JAL The only time I would add llvm or XCode is if what you are doing directly pertains to them. If I can run the code on another tool chain then the tags don't belong.
 
JAL
@NathanOliver Well, you can't. At least not in an older version of gcc or in gnustep/openstep at all
since apple dropped gcc in support of clang/llvm a few major versions before this feature was added to the language
aaaand already downvoted
 
6:15 PM
Since I have no clue is Kindof part of the language or is it an extension added by the IDE?
 
JAL
@NathanOliver I believe an extension on the language: developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/DeveloperTools/…
look under "Objective-C Language"
it's fine, I'll just leave it with the objc tag
 
@JAL Okay. From what I can find and this question and the answers it looks like __kindof is part of the language so in that case all of the other tags are not needed.
 
n or f?
 
^ eh, it technically answers the question. Not intentionally spam in my opinion
 
f to me
 
6:22 PM
@PetterFriberg i donno wich u wana chooz bt de punctuation iz on mah nervz
 
and the post was deleted...
 
People K'ed it in Charcoal.
 
Who deleted that?
@PhMgBr That seems really tough to a member for 5 months.
Just to create some confusion
 
could also be unclear if you stretch it a bit
 
@Closey start event
 
6:30 PM
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
9431 need review
1334 reviews today
3245796 reviews all-time
The tags to work on are: , , .
@NathanOliver I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@gunr2171 I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
review queue at 9.4 k : )
 
JAL
@NathanOliver cool, thanks
 
@ryanyuyu I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
post tagged [r], [excel], and [vba]. Huh?
 
6:38 PM
NathanOliver passed a audit!
 
Is there anything that can be done to improve the tag?
 
@DipenShah what do you mean? Burnination or mass editing?
 
the public API is down since more than 1 year now and both the links are dead.
 
oh, the wiki page
 
@gunr2171 I am not sure of the entire process, if anyone can guide me that would be much appreciated
 
6:44 PM
looking for link....
 
@gunr2171 Yes
 
NathanOliver passed a audit!
 
do you have links that work @DipenShah ?
 
@rene The public API support has ended for Netflix so no those links don't exist anymore
 
6:45 PM
@gunr2171 Thank you
 
(side note, maybe that post should be )
 
@gunr2171 He however seems interested in changing the tag wiki.
 
yeah, that's not my area of expertise
I don't even review tag wiki edits
 
@DipenShah can you purpose a new edit to tag wiki?
 
we can also call on this guy, who is #3 in the top answeres for the tag. He might have a better idea of what to write in the wiki spot
 
6:50 PM
@DipenShah If you edit it (remove the links, add info that its not supported any more, with some reference link). Make also a good edit summary so it is easy to review and understand why you edited ecc.
 
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 
return to base
 
but they are pretty sure they don't want to be found anymore
 
Thank you everyone
 
6:52 PM
np
 
back to the queue, still 20 more to do...
 
and I am tapped out of CV's
 
gunr2171 passed a audit!
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
@Closey Yeah I know but I'm cheating...
 
6:55 PM
at chess? How dare you!
 
e4
 

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