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12:50 AM
@PaulRoub the latest answer in the component topic is simply a spam
 
@PaulRoub complete with a useless non-answer that will block the roomba when that gets closed
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
1:25 AM
@cimmanon I don't think the answer will be the problem - it's NAA anyway, and has been flagged. That question won't get roomba'd because it has a +6 score. It will need delete votes.
 
@Mogsdad yeah, i missed that part :-(
 
Figured that was it.
 
@cimmanon wtf are those tags?
 
a little of this and a little of that? government surprised me
government looks like it has quite a bit of off-topic garbage ><
 
I need a shovel, found egoverment and the governance things
 
1:39 AM
self q&a for a question that should probably be closed under "we are not customer support for your favorite company": stackoverflow.com/questions/35861741/…
 
2:03 AM
Félix Gagnon-Grenier has started reviewing!
 
3:00 AM
@Braiam Why?
 
@Mogsdad boggus dupe
 
@Braiam That underlines that their question is too broad; most of their concerns are addressed in the chosen target.
 
so, you are going to close a question that got lots of attention against another that got almost nil?
 
@Braiam I didn't close it... but I wouldn't reopen it to dup it to the other, either. The OP got their answer - and given that there were already meta posts, help pages, and privilege pages covering all their concerns, I don't think splitting hairs about the popularity of the target matters... pretty sure the next version of this user isn't going to look for it.
 
@Mogsdad the thing is... that dupes are meant to redirect people towards the most common/general discussion, not just because some points coincide, since everything on meta is permeated by the thousand shades of gray. Context matters.
btw, if you see how that got closed, the close voters on meta tend of the worst kind of bandwagon rubberstampers
 
3:16 AM
To that point... you do realize that we chose not to moderate Meta here, right? It is a different swamp than the one we normally muck about in.
@Braiam Would that not be served by duping the target dup as well? (The "chain" I was referring to in my comment.)
... at which point the "bandwagon rubberstampers" would be dancing to your music! There's some nice irony in that.
 
3:45 AM
@cimmanon cv-pls'd ^^^
 
what is that even
 
4:09 AM
Ok, it's not just me then. I was afraid it was some new prose-parsing programming tech that I was too stupid to understand.
And that tag, ? Government is a group of people with the authority to govern a country or a political state. You just know that's going to be full of poo.
 
@Tushar I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
4:34 AM
Plop!
 
popple
 
plopee
 
And with that, I've overthrown the !
 
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because It is obviously spam
Meh ^
 
4:56 AM
Their heart was in the right place!
@Kev @Tush - Did you guys see the Teams Page pinned message? Over there --->
 
@Mogsdad Oh, see that.
 
@Mogsdad Sent request
 
And that's awesome! Let me check if I can join.
 
@KevinGuan stackoverflow.com/teams/11/socvr Click on join
 
@cimmanon A few more to close, a few to delete, and it's done!
@KevinGuan Do you really want to join a club that would accept you as a member? ;^)
 
5:02 AM
@Mogsdad Sure sure sure! I want to join the team since so many days ago!
Anyway, I have 14.2k message posted in SOCVR. But have I been around for at least 3 months?
Nov 10 '15 at 3:46, by NathanOliver
And welcome to the room.
Seems so =D
 
I was going with:
Nov 17 '15 at 11:55, by Kevin Guan
@Kyll Plop!
 
lol, let's plop everything.
 
Hey, who's one-boxing! Watch out, or one of the ROs will catch you!
Wait.
 
Sent the request.
 
And then they learn that it's no big deal.
 
Rob
5:28 AM
Has anyone noticed recently a ton of rubbish posts get upvoted within minutes?
 
^^^ yack
 
Tushar passed an audit!
 
5:59 AM
Good morning
How can I see how many messages I have in here?
 
Rob
Yep - go to 'info' and then filter to current people
Then in the bottom right of your box, it shows total messages
You have 6.4k
 
And how do I find out when I joined?
I know I was briefly in here for a day or so when I was at 900 rep, but I only really got into here at 3k
 
@Magisch Hmm...search for your first message here.
@Rob Well, it's too broad anyway.
 
How would I go about doing that
 
Rob
@KevinGuan Yeah, too broad. But I mean I've noticed a recent trend that brand new rubbish questions are immediately upvoted to +1
 
6:04 AM
Probably a guy trying to cheese electorate
@kevin
 
Rob
@KevinGuan The question is now +2, barely legible and has two questions which tell them how to extract files, even though they explicitly say they don't want to extract
Bleh
 
@Magisch Well, try to remeber what's your first message posted here, and use the SE chat search feature like this: chat.stackoverflow.com/…
@Rob Err...let's just close and delete it as well.
 
@KevinGuan is there a wildcard in that UI to search for all messages I posted here?
 
@Magisch Hmm...I don't know.
searching on meta...
Oops, maybe not.
 
Rob
Not spam
just a bad question
 
6:11 AM
afk for lunch
 
Rob
个饱! :)
 
@Rob Sorry but I don't understand that.
 
Rob
Google translate has betrayed me :(
 
Hmm...what's the English version of it?
 
Rob
 
6:14 AM
@KevinGuan Kernel® is a Registered Trademarks of Lepide Software Private Limited
@KevinGuan "Web master at Lepide "
I started here some time in February
so I haven't been here long enough to qualify for the Teams page
 
@Rob Ah, translate.google.com.au/#fr/zh-CN/Bon%20app%C3%A9tit. If you use e instead of é then it doesn't make any sense. However, 祝您好胃口 means "Have a good lunch" which I can understand =p.
@Magisch So it's spam, not link-only?
 
@KevinGuan At the very least undisclosed self promotion
Brock adams also dug up this: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
 
@Magisch Hmm...you really don't remember what's your first message posted here?
 
apparently this guy has spammed and gotten his account deleted before.
Not really @kevin
 
@Magisch Ah, how about a mod flag?
 
6:25 AM
@KevinGuan Already did
@KevinGuan The poster is a webmaster at the company that makes the product he just recommended. He has done this before (and got his posts deleted before) on SO and SU: (metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…) Maybe its time for further steps against the user. – Magisch 8 mins ago pending
 
Move on then \o/
@Magisch Let me try if I can find an earlier message.
@Magisch Ah, yeah. I can only find this one:
Feb 1 at 13:56, by Magisch
I hope I got it right this time
Feb 1, means you still have to wait 2 weeks.
@gunr2171 Then we better change the How do I join this team page? part of our team page huh?
 
6:43 AM
 
6:59 AM
I fixed it
 
Morning all
I also want to join the team page
 
Post 300 more messages :P
 
@Magisch Ah, I agree with TLM.
 
The 2k messages limit is new
 
299 messages left
 
7:02 AM
@Ferrybig Huh? I remember that you're already in it.
 
I have to wait 2 more weeks
:(
 
@KevinGuan Ow I see, I submitted a request to join the teams a week ago, before gunr2171 updated the requirements
 
@Ferrybig Fine.
 
Go go Guano!
:D
I am the lord of irrelevant half-joke failed-to-be-funny postings
witness!
 
!!/blame
 
7:04 AM
@KevinGuan It's Undo's fault.
 
Out of all Kevin's messages in SOCVR, 50% will be !!/blame
 
@Magisch lol
 
@SmokeDetector This is the moment a bot turns against its owner
 
Kevin should get the award as sole user who uses blame command
 
@Tushar Cool, can I also get a badge?
 
7:06 AM
!!/blame
 
@Magisch It's T J's fault.
 
@Magisch - It won't work
 
@Tushar And another 50% will Plop.
 
@TheLostMind Idk, I see only positives in giving more information out
 
!!/blame Plop
 
7:07 AM
@KevinGuan It's Mogsdad's fault.
 
What would be my role in the team? PHP bomber?
 
@KevinGuan right, how did I forgot that
@Rizier123 PHP hammer
 
An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
0: The request timed out
----
at SOCVRDotNet.UserDataFetcher.GetLastestCVReviewIDs (System.String fkey, Int32 userID, Int32 reviewCount, System.Action throttler) <0x4132e000 + 0x005db> in <filename unknown>:0
at SOCVRDotNet.User.ScrapeData () <0x4132a3d0 + 0x00263> in <filename unknown>:0
 
Not feasible..
Too many "assumptions" and "unknown factors" will be involved.
 
for the company in example, you could go to their website and find the contact email there
It'd be a very informal and manual process, but potentially very useful...
 
7:10 AM
You do it twice (and if they find out that its fake), they won't care from the third time around
 
@KevinGuan Note: I mean "will be Plop".
 
SmokeDispenser has joined the room, :D
 
@Magisch, did I just spot you on Sec.SE?
 
@SmokeDispenser Maybe...
 
@Ferrybig, that's right.
someone is commenting in my turf;)
... as I saw in the review queue :)
 
7:15 AM
hey hey, Jan is back from never really being gone
 
that's because @Kyll keeps pinging me :)
 
good lad
 
And I ping him when he is again on the HNQ
 
There is always @kyll. Kyll is eternal
 
@Ferrybig, I'm not yet sure about the challenge though.
what'd I win?
 
7:22 AM
@SmokeDispenser a SOCVR hall pass, indefinite free lurking?
 
I already got one of those.
 
well use it!
 
you're even looking up my given name every time I lurk.
 
I guess its already beyond old. SD it is from now on.
 
Plop
Urgh, that spammer is here again? How're ya doing on the cucumber thing?
 
7:31 AM
this answer is weird, seems like a half-attempt to spam that failed: Apache Tomcat 404 Error
 
@Kyll Plop
@Gimby seems more naa to me
 
@Kyll Plop!
 
Hahaha. And it's from a cool Meteor guy!
 
Is it morning in France already?
 
It's 9:30 here
 
7:37 AM
Oh, fine.
Huh, 6 hours different.
 
@Kyll Plop
Kyll has arrived, the day begins
 
@KevinGuan Only 6? Great
 
I don't know, it could also be 18.
 
It's 15:30 where you are right?
 
sure.
 
7:39 AM
So yep, 6
 
Hmm...why do we have timezones anyway? Isn't the Earth flat?
 
> Burn the [government]
 
+ 1 for the formatting, -100 because its spam
 
Nope
Handling it
 
Mostly not
 
7:46 AM
@Kyll Just wait until rene weaks up...
 
what happened after I flagging a post(question/answer/comment)? Is it disappear immediately or stay where is it until moderator approve it?
 
@KevinGuan almost, just one more edit will do it
 
@Wuaner Questions or Answers get auto-destroyed if 6 people raise spam or abusive flags on them. Otherwise the flag will wait for review by either community or moderators
 
@Gimby lol
 
I dont often use chat flags, but you're enticing me to do so
 
7:49 AM
@KevinGuan Did you run for RO last time?
 
Err...
 
He did
 
lol whats going on
???
 
@Magisch thx. So post I flagged will still there is I was the first and only one flagging it?
 
@Ferrybig Oh, but I failed the election.
 
7:50 AM
A user is requesting votes, no RO around, someone seems to have raised a flag
 
@Wuaner Yes, but your flag will be dealt with shortly
 
@NitinGohel People are using flags for things a RO should solve
 
@Ferrybig for just kidding ??
errrr
 
@Kyll Not only one...
 
@Magisch dealt with by who? moderator?
 
7:51 AM
So just to round it up and make it clear:
1) You vote on the content on SO and not for a user
2) You don't beg and ask other users to upvote your posts.
3) Joking about this not really funny nor really intelligent, because who knows if this maybe isn't a joke?!
This isn't like instagram or twitter with "Follow me I follow back". If you vote on a user and not on his content you can get suspended for it.
 
@Wuaner Depending on the type of flag either moderator or the community via review queues
 
@Magisch I still dont know what community is until now... lol. a example, pls?
 
@Wuaner When you flag a question as off topic
It gets put in a queue, the close vote queue
users with higher reputation, like me, can review and vote to close on those questions
So a bad question flagged as off topic will eventually get closed, and with its closure (or stay open verdict) your flag will either be marked helpful or disputed
 
@KevinGuan I read some of links you posted before. But never flag a post or comment, so im not familiar with the entire flows.
@KevinGuan Many thanks for post those helpful links here.
 
8:01 AM
It takes time to get used to
 
This site works in a very particular non obvious way
 
I don't know about "non-obvious" -- it's certainly different from many forums, but if that's not your background, some things here are more obvious
 
@Wuaner Well, a short answer: When you're flagging a post, it'll be put into a queue and it'll be handled by the other users who has more rep and the mods. Once you have enough rep, you can also review other's flags.
 
Want more rage, that has image as code.
 
If you unsure with flagging, don't use the "required moderation attention" option, its usually not what you want
 
8:04 AM
afk
 
@Magisch :29962662 I get it. Post will put into a review queue immediately, even though I was the only and first one that flagged it? anyone have review privilege will notice this flag. After 6 votes received from reviewers, flag been marked as helpful, and the original post close immediately.
 
@Wuaner 5 close votes but yeah =D
 
@Wuaner Hmm...actually:
If your flag is a red flag (spam/offensive), after 6 same type flags, the post will be locked, deleted.
The owner will also lost 100 rep.
If your flag is a question flag, it'll put into Close Vote Queue. If 5 reviewers voted to close the question, it'll be closed.
 
Seems this chat room does not support reply to multi users ... Anyway, thanks guys! You all are awesome! :)
 
8:17 AM
If your flag is a answer flag (VLQ or NAA), it'll put into VLQ Queue. If 5 reviewers clicked the Recommend Dletion button or 3 reviewers who has > 20k clicked the Delete button, it'll be deleted.
A mod can immediately deletes/closes a post and makes any type of flags as helpful or decline them.
If some users don't think that your flag is correct, your flag will be declined and the post will stay there.
If some users think your flag is correct, but some users don't think it is, it'll be disputed.
> The End
@Wuaner Oh, and as Ferrybig said, don't touch the mod flag until you really know what it does.
 
@KevinGuan Got it! and big thanks for this detailed and informative explanation!
 
Mar 28 at 8:25, by Kevin Guan
@AnynameDonotcare No need say thanks, that's our job :)
 
@AwesomeGuysHere "Our job"? it that means you guys working at SO?
"Our job"? is that means you guys working at SO?
 
Mar 28 at 8:28, by Kevin Guan
@JeffreyBosboom No but I work for SOCVR.
 
8:32 AM
@Wuaner Can't speak for occasional SE employees passing through here, but Im not working for SO
 
@Wuaner It does feel like that sometimes lol
 
And feels good, LOL
Any potential flag-worth post you found? let me do it for you, lol
 
Hmm...ask Smokey then.
!!/help
 
@KevinGuan I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
8:44 AM
Hi guys
 
Plop Eric
 
Plop Eric
 
A bot? that's awesome!
!!/amiprivileged
 
It doesn't work if you do the command and a normal text in the same message
 
@Wuaner Hmm...1. We have a lot of bots here. 2. You can only run the command in another message. 3. No, you're not privileged and I think you don't need to be privileged now.
 
8:54 AM
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Kyll Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
!!/coffee
 
@KevinGuan brews coffee for @KevinGuan
 
!!/amicoffee
2
 
@TheLostMind Too mercy to flag it.Is it really a flag-worth post...:(
 
8:55 AM
@TimCastelijns Yes, you are a coffee.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Wuaner No, you are not a privileged user.
 
@Wuaner Check it out now, it's a duplicate
 
@Wuaner About "you don't need to be a privileged now", I mean, how about try to understand how does the SO system work, before try to help others? drinking Tim coffee.
And if you'd like to learn and help more, welcome to SOCVR =D
 
Should it be rmblu?
 
9:01 AM
Waffle...
 
The first post was pretty awful. Let's not.
 
Huh, but that's some trash, no spam stuff. I think maybe just because that he doesn't know how StackOverflow works? And if he posts awful posts again, we can still get a report. So I think we better do.
And I remember that we should only make trash posts as tp-, without blacklist.
 
The only reason you should blacklist people with smokey is that if you are sure the next post will be rude, abusive or spam
 
Sam
Morning peoples
 
Plop
 
9:09 AM
@Sam Morning
 
popple
 
@Sam Morning
 
stackoverflow.com/q/36642467/3933332 A new PHP disease. So many bugs there.
 
one more drop in the PHP-bugs Ocean
 
@Ferrybig Mh, yeah
 
9:16 AM
@Kyll User removed from blacklist (5934998 on stackoverflow.com).
 
Its really horrible that the "blacklisted user" reason only has a 67.73 % true positive rate, even though this check is only fed by humans, in contrast to the "link at the end of body" has a 98.79 % true positive rate, even though it is a really simple check
 
@Rizier123 PHP is the disease.
3
 
@Ferrybig Which means: Bots are better than people.
 
@DavidG Every language has some weird flaws. PHP is just the flaw magnet for it
 
@Ferrybig Well, most spammers only post one message then the account is trashed. Multiple messages often indicate a (very) misguided user
 
9:23 AM
Is this a typo/no repro question? stackoverflow.com/questions/36642782/…
 
@KevinGuan Meh. Not proficient in that.
 
Huh, it could be a dupe then...
Is this an answer? Or a comment? stackoverflow.com/a/36643289/5299236
This is a garbage post. Flag as "Rude or abusive" to destroy it quickly without poorly seeding the spam detector (see this Meta answer). — Kyll 1 min ago
@Kyll Flag it as rude to seed the spam detector? =p
 
9:39 AM
@KevinGuan without
 
Oops...
 
What does this page looks like? do not have sufficient privileges to view it. :( awesomescreenshot.com/image/1169496/…
 
... Maybe give the actual review link =p
Or do you want to see the general case?
 
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 14 hours to continue reviewing.
@Closey my stats
 
@Tushar 4 members (4% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 54 review items today, which accounts for 7.84% of all CV reviews today.
@Tushar You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit). The time between your first and last review today was 5 hours, 38 minutes, and 32 seconds, averaging to a review every 8 minutes and 27 seconds.
 
Sam
9:46 AM
We have 100 able reviewers?
wat
 
@Closey membership
 
@Tushar Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
my audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
 
@Sam can you review my Teams application?
 
Sam
@TimCastelijns Sure
 
@Tushar Current users in permission groups:
Reviewer
    Adriaan (5211833)
    Alexander O'Mara (3155639)
    Andras Deak (5067311)
    Andrew Cheong (925913)
    Bhargav Rao (4099593)
    bluefeet (426671)
    Brad Larson (19679)
    Braiam (792066)
    ChrisF (59303)
    Cindy Meister (3077495)
    DavidG (1663001)
    Drew (1816093)
    Dukeling (1711796)
    durron597 (1768232)
    Félix Gagnon-Grenier (576767)
    Ferrybig (1542723)
    gunr2171 (1043380)
    Ian (5666987)
    JAL (2415822)
    Jan Dvorak (499214)
    JNat (1328704)
 
9:48 AM
@Sam ikr. That sounds hardcoded.
 
Sam
...
That's one heck of a list.
 
@Sam 70
 
Sam
@Tushar To Closey, "able reviewers" are basically people who are pingable and with +3k rep.
 
Oh, then that's great! Finally reached 100
 
Sam
Though we only have 20-30 regulars.
 
9:51 AM
Just curious, what was your first programming language you learned?
 
Sam
Who?
 
Does php count?
 
BASIC!
 
C. I had a tough infancy.
 
Sam
SmallBasic here.
 
9:52 AM
GFA-Basic
 
Pascal
 
@Sam everyone in this room.
 
Could maybe count Logo as my first language
 
Sam
@Rizier123 k
 
afk
 
9:53 AM
C for me as well, no wait C# first then C then C++
 
I see what your favorite character in the alphabet is :P
Now I almost feel modern when I started with C, seeing others started with pascal or basic :P
 
@DavidG I took the "Aspiring poet" title in the Team :p
@Rizier123 maybe it was my uni's favourite :P I don't like any of those 3 languages
 
@TimCastelijns Haha. I didn't even know my app had been processed, there appears to be no notification
 
Yes chief
 
@TimCastelijns Wut, really? Well I can't say anything about C++ since I never learned it, but C and C# are pretty good I think.
 
9:56 AM
My uni's language of choice was Ada
 
stackoverflow.com/teams/11/socvr tried to use a role, which represents what I do here.
 
@Rizier123 maybe C was too hard for me back then with only a couple weeks of experience, and the assignments we got were boring as hell. Never really caught my interest. Same with C# but at least that was easy. C++ is somewhere in between
 
@TimCastelijns When I started with C our teacher let us write code on paper! And at the start that was a pain in the ass, you literally had no way to really debug your code. But it really helped that I now pretty much see every little hidden error when I look at code.
 
Hah yeah we had an exam on paper once. It was not fun
 
You shouldn't do code on paper, unless its as basic as html or javascript
 
Sam
10:06 AM
@Rizier123 D:
 
@Ferrybig Nope, full basic C programs 10-100 code lines.
 
Refactoring made hard
 
Sam
life*
 
Well it just got a real mess on the paper :P At the end it was the problem from the teacher to understand it
 
Bad answer?
sd remove- editing
 
10:11 AM
seems naa to me
 
Guys could you please look at what's just been done to the post before clicking on "rollback"? I already had rollbacked this one, so it went to far back when someone else did rollback after me. Thanks.
 
@EricD yea, sorry. I didn't get the "Someone else edited" dialogue
 
And we should probably comment here with "on it" or something like this anyway.
@Adriaan No problem. I should have left a comment here saying I was on it. :)
 
I used a mod flag on that post
 
@EricD I did leave a comment on the post telling him not to deface though
 
10:20 AM
Yep, I just upvoted your comment.
 
10:35 AM
G'day \o
 
@ʞaʎess o/
 
@ʞaʎess Hi!
 
@Ferry @Eric Hi \o
 
@Adriaan ChrisF has locked the post and our comments have been deleted. Not sure why. Maybe the multiple rollbacks triggered a mod alert.
 
@EricD probably. Oh well, that's for the best I guess
 
10:43 AM
@Adriaan I think so :)
 
@EricD "Content dispute" indeed. I did flag one of the comments as well though, so he might have seen my comment below that
 
Oh, ok. Makes sense, then.
 
I wonder why my comment was deleted as well though
seemed like a sensible comment, asking the OP not to deface his own post
 
I find this surprising too.
 
might be that I didn't word the ownership issue correctly
 
10:50 AM
from what I've seen, in case of moderator intervention in these cases there is just a complete purge. I wouldn't read more into it
 

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