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2:00 PM
@gunr2171 Np.
 
sd f - Meh, close the question
 
@Kyll Answer upvoted in < 20s... voting ring?
 
"meh", the grandest of reactions!
 
@Mogsdad Possibly
 
there should be a meh. programming language
 
2:01 PM
@gunr2171 Woah, esolangs failed me!
 
NATO is abandoned. Reinforcements needed.
 
No meh programming language
 
: (
 
@PetterFriberg Do you have a idea what unicode character we could use for a NAA post on metasmoke?
 
2:03 PM
@Ferrybig The poop one?
 
I will think : )..
 
@AndrasDeak you win
 
@Kyll great minds and spearrels think alike
 
Is this spam? (deleted now)
 
2:05 PM
@AndrasDeak So what makes you think that great minds and spearrels are two separate categories?
 
@Gothdo VLQ at the very least.
 
Ian
@Gothdo looks promotional, but may not be spam
 
@Tunaki Nah m8 thats spam
 
any of the ROs around?
 
Tuna, gunr, Sam, Mogs
 
2:06 PM
The whole answer is nothing but a very very very low quality "INSTALL MAH APP"
2
 
Ian
wow that's quick
 
@SmokeDispenser \o
 
@SmokeDispenser Hiya o/ What's up?
 
@Ferrybig /o
 
@SmokeDispenser yep
 
Ian
2:06 PM
@SmokeDispenser hi o/
 
@Ferrybig I vote for Andreas as well, good and fun rappresentation...
 
@Tunaki, would you consider adding a site-specific/sec.SE/ folder and markdown to the auto-comment repo?
 
@Undo, I actually like the poo as well
 
@PetterFriberg it was Kyll first
but thanks:P
 
@SmokeDispenser You can do that with a PR I think, although I'm not sure if placing that in SOCVR is a very good idea considering we don't moderate other sites
 
2:08 PM
there has been meta over there about educating users instead of downvote/closing, which might work great in the small scale
 
Well, I did make a meta one...
 
@Kyll that's excactly why I ask instead of just forking.
@Kyll I know, I already had a PR approved;)
 
Maybe add that to the list of things we discuss on Monday
 
@SmokeDispenser I'll get back to you on that, not sure about it though since we focus on SO.
 
We are the close vote in the shadow, the spam destroyers, we strike, as one.
Dont post that
:p
 
2:10 PM
@NathanOliver I put a c++11 batch in the hive. Pretty sure cv3,4 is in the queue
 
Plop @Drew!
 
Plop @Drew
 
looking at whatever other tags you guys are working on
 
@Tunaki that's why I'm asking. thanks. Just give me a ping, maybe on the sec.se channel or in the ministry, whereever is low trafic.
 
Plop @drew
 
2:11 PM
Drew you're back
 
plop
 
:)
 
Welcome back
 
thx
 
@SmokeDispenser Noted, thanks
 
2:12 PM
@Tunaki, basicly, I'm about to found this channel over there with some slight modifications to match the different environment:)
 
@SmokeDispenser Sounds like a great challenge ahead!
 
@SmokeDispenser Hah! Not getting your SOCVR fix over there heh?
 
might me a good idea to have some sort of link, I thought.
@Kyll o pls
 
@Kyll int activate_kyll (void)
on error GoTo error_kyll
error_kyll:
 
@Tunaki I have a month of spare time ahead;)
 
2:17 PM
debug.print( "You must construct additional kyll! (No seriously, Array out of bounds)")
 
@Drew You will have to walk me through how to get there. I have not used your beehive yet.
 
^ further actual production code
bonus points: guess the language
 
Why there are spam answers audits in LQP review queue (like this one)? Shouldn't spam be flagged as spam instead of VLQ/NAA?
 
0
Q: Should we Un-"LoadImage"?

Tom HartI've just come across a question tagged loadimage. Is this a useful tag? Can anybody be an "expert" in loading image?

 
@Magisch VBA?
 
2:18 PM
@Kyll close, not quite
 
@Feeds Auto-commented
 
@Gothdo Its an audit, so its not real..... "Recommend delete"
Probably was flagged as spam
 
damn out of flags
this is spam
 
2:23 PM
@pp_ No, could be edited
 
@Tunaki You sure?
 
It did look really fishy
 
@Tunaki What is spam, you removed the smoke detector message
 
Spammers may try to add some programming jargon to fool flaggers
 
@Ian can't really consider it spam when the question itself is closed as an off-topic tool request, right?
 
Ian
2:25 PM
@Gimby OK, then probably NAA/VLQ
 
@Ferrybig No he removed my why message post was deleted use meta smoke
 
Ian
@Gimby user just join today and post the first post... but unregistered...
 
@Undo Was it restored? I thought it got deleted
 
Yes
 
Ian
2:26 PM
Looks fishy...
 
Given his other question here, it looks like not-spam
 
@ian oh wait, the thing I missed is that the question was closed 4 minutes ago
 
@Undo Is low quality for me, but not spam
 
I feel its those fishy things where you can not be 100% sure... I did not flag it.
 
It really looks fishy
 
2:27 PM
 
ty
 
@PetterFriberg Your feature has been deployed, as shown on this post: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/23258
 
@Ferrybig Great, I real enjoy Kyll / Andreas feature it makes you smile...
 
Benefit of the doubt indeed. Not spam.
 
(its deleted now anyway)
 
2:30 PM
@Ferrybig is there a smiling poopface that says @Magisch when hovering?
 
it is?
 
I love it when a comment works: stackoverflow.com/questions/36336101/…
 
@Tunaki hmm, crossed wires?
 
I'm lost. I'll go back to whatever I was doing :)
 
@Gimby, what's my name again, before I go?;)
 
2:32 PM
Sorry but this is spam-like... All this user is posting is links to his publications. Behind the links in stackoverflow.com/questions/36336134/… there's OP's blog advertising OP's book. VLQ at least, definitely "spammy" for me.
 
@SmokeDispenser Awesome Jan
 
just checking;)
see you guys
 
a brother of Dangerous Dave and Halloween Harry. If you know those names, you deserve the awesome label.
 
@SmokeDispenser Magish marked the post as Not an Answer, we choose the pile of poo by a process of democratic voting in this chat
 
Ian
@PraveenKumar OK, that was my last vote
 
2:33 PM
@EricD No mcve - the code to repro should be in the question, not their site.
 
@Ian Ah.
 
@Rizier123 How you close unclear with a duplicate : )
 
@PetterFriberg Question prediction :P I already guess that what ever error he gets is in the dupe.
 
@Rizier123 Super.
 
2:36 PM
We should run you as a bot...
 
@PetterFriberg mysql_select_db($db) <- See missing semicolon, covered by the dupe
 
aah now I see some code also..., did not see that before...
gone...
I still think Tuna's gut feeling is probably right, please consider @Mogsdad request
 
Just from the title: stackoverflow.com/revisions/36336400/1 I knew this wasn't a cat walking over the keyboard. Because the characters don't go from right to left on the keyboard.
 
Ian
Seems to be false positive
 
@Drew I figured it out. Did what I could/felt was right.
 
2:41 PM
@Ian Yeah go for it
@Ian There was a message in the middle
 
2 remove 4 me
 
Ian
@PetterFriberg ah yes, no wonder
 
hmm not even my command work... lets try again
 
JAL
I'm voting to close this question as "Primarily Opinion-Based" because only Apple's Swift engineers can answer this question, and the definition of "basic" in itself is based on opinion, not fact. — JAL 21 secs ago
 
@Ferry help
 
2:44 PM
@PetterFriberg Whats wrong?
 
Can't see the sd f message marked on meta smoke metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/23272
Directed a direct command to sd, see above...
 
Is the issue that it didn't get removed?
 
@PetterFriberg Weird, it works from the charcoal, it probably failed because smokey thought the message was deleted
 
@Ferrybig Yeah I see you have marked it now... ma.. normally replying to sd work, to jump other messages correct?
 
2:50 PM
@PetterFriberg Oh never mind. now I see what you are talking about
 
@PetterFriberg I am not sure what exactly happened, lets see if the next message goes without problems. The post was in a kind of bugged state on metasmoke, metasmoke thought it had feedback, but didn't display the feedback
 
Thanks..
@NathanOliver Yeah its mostly to feed meta smoke correctly, for statistics etc... and you never know if Undo like to do automatic flagging
@Kyll and @AndrasDeak the meta smoke page is really nice now with pooh all over it : ) metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/posts
 
I decline all responsibility for the smell
 
He was reffering Winnie the pooh.
 
@kayess Do you have any idea what bears smell like?
 
2:58 PM
@Kyll Bear that is drawn on a piece of paper?
 
@PetterFriberg A nice pattern to see is that the rate of false positive and the poo rates stays around the same average number, while the true positive rates fluctuate according to the american working hours
 
As usual its Americas fault....
 
They say it was not spam, only example links.
 
That means that Undo was right
 
3:01 PM
@Ferrybig This would be where I'd use the dancing banana emoticon, if available...
 
@Ferrybig Well I don't regret flagging as spam since for me it was spam. :p But now that OP has clarified, yes, I believe them and I changed my mind, Undo was right.
 
@kayess Bye!
 
@Kyll cyas!
@room too \o
 
Did you get spam flag approved?
 
@PetterFriberg disputed
 
3:03 PM
@PetterFriberg Community deleted so yes
@EricD Oh?
 
@Kyll yep
 
I thought deletion by Community always meant helpful flags
 
@EricD I gave that an edit
 
I did not flag but I also think OP could take some care, its not hard to immagine that you spam some like that... and then how the link was constructed for me it still was an attempt from op to get referral (even if he don't know that SO have no-follow)
 
"disputed" doesn't bother me, though, it just means that it wasn't a clear case for the mod handling the flag
 
3:08 PM
@Kyll I believe the mod clearing them makes them disputed.
 
@NathanOliver Oh, okay
 
@Tunaki where was your timeline script (I have changed pc)... you should push into SOCVR scripts...
 
Thanks
 
@Ian look like you need a waffle
 
Ian
3:21 PM
@Tunaki added... Ah yes, will be good for supper...
 
Why do I get "Failed retrieving fkey from chat." when sending cvs request?
 
Flags are flying in the JS room.
 
Flags are flying in the JS room.
 
Ian
What on earth is happening there...
 
Olo
 
3:29 PM
Hi o/
 
@TheLostMind o/
 
Plop TLM!
 
hello
 
do... not... succumb... to the plop tentation...
 
@Tunaki Resistance is futile. Plop is love. Plop is life. Plop is everything, infinity and beyond.
 
3:33 PM
^^.. Plop!
 
@Kyll The Little Mermaid? :P
 
@DavidG I am now going to silently judge you on your references.
 
@SmokeDispenser Excuse you?!
 
The Ladies Man - nice
 
3:37 PM
@Kyll Third Leg Material...
 
@DavidG cough
 
awkward silence is awkward
 
breaking the awkward silence with an awkward message is awkward
 
I was flagging a bounty question =|
I have no idea what this question is about but it looks very broad / POB
 
@Kyll Very very broad indeed.
I had a whole class on Support Vector Machines
 
3:45 PM
Those sound scary.
Cast a request then?
 
It's basically machines that are attacking you with pointy vectors and you need to make them learn not to do that.
 
Almost looks like a homework question there
 
@Tunaki ... Did you speak with @gunr recently?
 
Does interconnected brains through the Cloud count as talking?
 
@Tunaki As far as this room is concerned, yes
afk
 
@Kyll good news, my SO connection problems have spread to meta.SO
 
@Mogsdad Fine for me.
 
@Mogsdad My only ding is that from what mods have told me that is not a link only answer. If if the hyperlink broke there is enough information in the link text and answer to try and find a valid link to the library. see: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/306765/…
 
@Mogsdad gone
 
3:57 PM
Yeah but there's "Use library X", which means you import it and it just works and "Use library X" where you have no docs and absolutely no idea what to do.
 
@NathanOliver The mods need to read the help, then. (Linked in my comment.) Just having terms you can throw at a search engine isn't an answer... because the question would also meet that measure.
 
this is like pulling teeth
@Mogsdad I guess they figure it should be handled with down votes and delete votes, not flags.
 
afk for lunch
 
@NathanOliver ...without the joy of inflicting pain on the patient!
 
Bon appétit!
 
3:59 PM
@NathanOliver I didn't flag it, btw. Just commented + downvoted.
 
@Mogsdad I know. I just threw that in there
well I didn't really know but I assumed correctly for once :)
 
@NathanOliver I assumed you knew, but didn't know you'd assumed, but now I know, so will assume so in future, you know?
 
Yes? I mean no. um that's not right. maybe. unhandle exeception: parse error in brain.recognize
 
the-answer-is-in-another-castle
 
This is all crystal clear. So clear that my crystal broke. Any idea how to get a new one?
 
4:05 PM
lol. I know a guy but you have to pay him in pointers.
 
@NathanOliver ohhh. That kind of crystal.
 
I know a 5-star hotel. Is it enough?
 
On another note, this is NAA right? @Nathan I mean it's an entire different feature-request
 
@Tunaki I would say so. It should either be it's own FR or a comment.
 
4:08 PM
"Failed retrieving room name. Is it a valid room?"
 
@Tunaki but it looks like an answer. How good is meta moderation?
 
Dam it.... you are all invalid.... I will need to hand type the cvs .....
 
especially the opening paragraph which (kinda?) disagrees with your feature-request.
 
@PetterFriberg the cv-pls script?
 
Yeah, re-installed, installed manually, re-installed. closed browser.... in while I will just use alt+f4
 
4:09 PM
@ryanyuyu It would seem so.
Meh.
 
@PetterFriberg does it look like this? i.stack.imgur.com/n1JET.jpg
 
well that is offensive all right
 
yep. It was impressive how many blacklisted terms it used.
 
We sd k those?
 
4:12 PM
I don't know.
 
@NathanOliver No it seems to be ok, some times I get the invalid room on load, but mostly "Failed retrieving fkey from chat." when sending cvs.
 
Still alive!!
 
Sam
@clo room effectiveness
 
@Sam 14 members (12% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 525 review items today, which accounts for 31.14% of all CV reviews today.
 
@PetterFriberg hmm. maybe there is an issue between your chat and so logins. Did you try clearing your cache?
 
4:14 PM
@Tunaki You should know its abusive....
 
I know you're abusing the dots.....
 
Yeah Ferry already told me...
 
Oh... did he...?
 
Yeah he was suspicious of what I was trying to say. but I really mean nothing with dots, its pure abuse
@NathanOliver Ok, thanks I will try that
 
@PetterFriberg I remember that.
 
JAL
4:25 PM
This worth closure again? Identical to the question we just closed
 
@JAL So the OP deleted and re-posted the same question. That's got to raise some flags no?
 
JAL
@Tunaki It's not identical, I thought flags were only raised for identical reposts
I should say that the code is identical, the question word-for-word is not
It's basically asking the same thing again though
@Kyll want to throw your auto-comment on there again?
 
Well I went with no MCVE. Again.
 
JAL
same
 
@NathanOliver No same problem, I will give it up for now... probably some cross domain security issue in chroome.... time to commute home but thanks for help.
 
4:28 PM
np
 
Oh they're selling to France. I might buy one.
 
JAL
save your money for a baguette
 
and most important wine.... (with some dots) going home cya.
 
cya
 
Holy crap, Xamarin just went free with Visual Studio!
 
4:42 PM
It's at -6 why is it not dead?
 
Some one must have dved
 
Ian
@NathanOliver not enough spam flag?
 
-7 now. I guess people just downvote and leave.
 
first post review
 
@Ian most likely. it was mainly rhetorical to get people to kill it.
 
4:43 PM
Hehe, everytime a take a break from studying .. I find something to !!/report :P
 
Ian
@BhargavRao lol
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@Ian 14 members (12% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 525 review items today, which accounts for 30.51% of all CV reviews today.
 
Ian
@Closey total reviews today
 
@Ian Today, 7 members have reviewed a total of 313 items.
 | User                | Review Items Today |
 |------------------------------------------|
 | Ian                 | 60                 |
 | Wai Ha Lee          | 59                 |
 | Magisch             | 58                 |
 | Alexander O'Mara    | 57                 |
 | Tushar              | 57                 |
 | Braiam              | 18                 |
 | Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW | 4                  |
 
Ian
The CVQ rocketing again, around 9k now...
 
4:45 PM
I haven't reviewed since 2 days
 
Ian
Despite we have been working hard to reduce it... :'(
 
@JAL On what?
 
JAL
22 mins ago, by JAL
This worth closure again? Identical to the question we just closed
 
Bye, will bbl with more reports
 
take care
 
Ian
4:48 PM
@BhargavRao real report this time, I suppose? ;) all the best!
 
Lol, Thanks :)
 
@JAL Do I have an auto-comment for that..? I think Tuna has
 
I do?
 
I don't know, do you?
 
JAL
@Kyll you commented on the deleted question, thought you might want to add your comment again
 
4:49 PM
@Kyll Nah I don't.
 
JAL
lol this is going nowhere
 
@JAL Oh, all right. What did I comment again?
 
JAL
 
Oooh that one. Everyone has it, it's on the repo
 
JAL
ah
 
4:51 PM
Well, OP saw it already. No need to repost it I guess
 
I hate these people who get absolutely clear error messages from her compiler 'method XXXX does not exist' or the like, and then decide it warrants an SO post:( What are you supposed to do with such people? The class has no method, find another one or write one. Go away, please:(
 
@MartinJames Well without them you wouldn't get to use all of your down votes and close votes ;)
 
Or you leave a helpful comment: The "ERR_METH_NOT_FOUND" message does not say that your computer has a severe drug addiction issue, only that it didn't find the method you are referring to Please provide a full [mcve] / Simply correct the typo.
 
@Kyll I've tried that - I get suspended for a month:(
 
@MartinJames You may have forgotten the "helpful" part
Or not resisted your urge to barf on the specific question / user
 
5:01 PM
@Kyll It's difficult to be helpful when I want to bludgeon the OP to death with a user manual.
 
@MartinJames "Why don't you JUST R hits in the face T hits again F hits harder GODDAMN M throws manual" - I know the feeling
 
@Kyll It's the sheer helplessness. It's obvious that the OP is totally clueless and has just copied the code with no idea of how it works, but we are supposed to somehow help them without firearms or blunt-force trauma.
 
@MartinJames IIRC Shog9 mentioned that ignoring people is the best way to have them lose interest...
 
it is the number two remedy for help vampires.
 
Number one being a stake?
 
5:15 PM
^ mainly for my own reference
do you mean the deleted answer that has the word Duh! in it?
@Closey next 4 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Drew The next 4 tags are: 41, 28, 26, 21
 
5:39 PM
@Gothdo could you leave a reason also?
 
@Tunaki It have been closed as POB, probably because it contained a phrase What's the best way. I reworded it so it's now rather clear that it's not POB.
 
@Gothdo Yeah I know but for the future ;)
 
5:53 PM
Thanks @cricket_007 and @rob - I saw it didn't come out quite right and wondered afterwards if it needed the "tag:" part in front of it. Still trying to figure things out on the site... Scripts: I looked into those a while back and from what I could see they don't run in IE?
 
I'm not aware of any alternative to GreaseMonkey or TamperMonkey for IE.
 
Yeah, I know what I use isn't "cool", just never felt strongly enough about it to bother learning a new interface for a different browser...
 
People still use IE?
 
@CindyMeister I would do yourself a favor an retire IE for one of its younger counter parts. I run chrome and it in way more places than IE.
 
@Tunaki IEScripts, if you're willing to go back to IE7.
where should i insert that code? — pckolog 7 mins ago
Must. Refrain. From. Snide. Response.
2
 
5:57 PM
@Mogsdad Nope, need IE10/11 for the Office-JS APIs.
 
@DavidG yes
 
Undo has started reviewing!
Undo passed a audit!
 
6:16 PM
Regarding IE scripts. Looks like @TylerH has an answer for that stackoverflow.com/a/30647229/2308683
 
@Drew disagree with SF here. It seems too broad / POB / tool-request (I'm looking for references to best practices, instructions, or guidelines either for or against the need to restart)
 
the jdk chg and the symlink ? To me it belongs on like unix.se
 
@Tunaki gone
 
@Tunaki its been undone ;)
 
Bargh, it's impressive the amount of NAA that are edited through that queue.
 
6:30 PM
@Tunaki They probably don't know how the queue actually works.
 
Oh no! unikong, Will it be a lag feast again :P?
 
there should be a big warning that says "if you edit this post from the queue, it will remove the post from the queue and invalidate any NAA flags on it"
 
@KevinGuan A question you closed is on meta. it looks good just wanted to let you know in case you wanted to put up an answer.
 
I expect at least 42 levels from it.
 
6:35 PM
@NathanOliver I already pinged him on that. He commented here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29663606#29663606
 
@Rizier123 Ah it must be April first in some part of the world. I see banners for "unikong".
 
@cybermonkey Why "general HW" for that? They're asking about using Android fastboot to control which kernel is booting on a Sony device. That's the sort of thing we need to do all the time for low-level work.
 
@Tunaki oops. ty
 
@Tunaki would you migrate this or not? stackoverflow.com/q/36283544
 
@Drew I have no idea. It looks detailed.
 
6:39 PM
@ryanyuyu Yup, I already expect some meta post about it that it isn't 1. April, like last year :P I'm already on lvl 9
 
@Tunaki yes it is written well
 
@Rizier123 I have to wait until I'm off-the-clock. Is it basically old arcade Donkey Kong?
But unicorn flavored?
 
... and 3 4 Meta questions about it now.
 
Are there more on MSE? There are just 2 on MSO. nvm
 
what is this unikong thing
 
6:44 PM
@TylerH this year's April Fool's thing probably.
 
ah
 
omg, the unikong questions are flowing in like crazy!
 
@Mogsdad I know, but the scope's confusing. I should've said 'possibly better fit for Android.SE'
 
@cybermonkey I went migrate on that one. SU
 
@Mogsdad also, where did I say 'general HW'?
 
6:49 PM
WHo is playing the aprils fools joke now?
 
@cybermonkey All close votes so far are "General HW / SW"
 
@Ferrybig 16k rep you will never get me.
 
@Mogsdad I didn't vote as I can't, general hw/sw is incorrect though
 
@Mogsdad SU will get and redirect. A good thing.
 
6:52 PM
Oh, UniKong, SE April fool's joke this year
 
Stackoverflow introduces a new minigame: the speed in with abusive posts are deleted is decreased
 
wondering if they'll make the same mistake as they did with StackEgg last year
(they basically DDoS'ed themselves last year because they didn't balance the load properly)
 
pp_
@cybermonkey There is DDoS prevention built in apparently: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/320190/5865420
 
@pp_ lol, good to know they reference previous April fool's jokes
 
@cybermonkey Fair enough - maybe Too Broad (as you requests) due to appearing to be a "how do I debug" question, although I expect that people with expertise in the area would have a shot at guessing what the particular speed bump is.
I've added a comment to help the OP improve the question. There are 3 votes for "General SW", so if someone could revert their vote, that would help us close the question for the right reason.
 

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