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12:23 AM
@Raju meh, don't waste close votes, it will be deleted in 10 days
which is just 1 day more than if we got it closed today
 
1:17 AM
 
Plop!
 
Rob
1:31 AM
@KevinGuan Ni Hao! :)
 
@Rob 你好 o/
or 早上好 :P
 
Rob
:D
So is 'Hao' good?
 
Yeah, like "Good morning" (but we say something like "Morning good").
 
Rob
Ah okay
 
Oh wait, breakfast time. Later \o
 
Rob
1:35 AM
Ni Hao is the only phrase I know.. plus swears - all taught to me by friends at highschool haha
Alright, see ya
 
@PaulRoub Sweet! Not entirely sure about the key selections, wonder if pgup/pgdn would make more sense. Would you mind if I merged that into the NATO Enhancements script?
 
@Rob You have Chinese friends at highschool? :P
Yeah I'm back
 
Rob
Sure :) One of my best friends is Chinese (though born here)
There is a large Chinese community in Melbourne
 
So you're from Australia?
 
Rob
Yep
 
1:49 AM
Oh I didn't know that :)
 
Rob
Yep - so pretty close time zone to you :)
 
@PaulRoub Problem with the keys? When typing a comment, j and k cause the display to scroll.
 
2:17 AM
Ian has started reviewing!
 
@Mogsdad hadn't hit that, but it's not a shock. Like I said, it was a quick hack. PgUp/PgDn would ease that pain (as would a more careful approach to event capture). Feel free to merge, slice, dice in any way you like.
@Mogsdad and the key choices were for the benefit of my muscle memory - courtesy of Gmail shortcuts, etc.
 
2:41 AM
Ian passed a audit!
 
2:51 AM
Ian passed a audit!
Ian reviewed 60 posts today (of which 2 were audits)! The time between Ian's first and last review today was 40 minutes and 11 seconds, averaging to a review every 40 seconds.
 
3:20 AM
Do 0 scored deleted questions count against the user who asked it?
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig hi, yeh you pinged me, but that's cool, always happy to hear from you.
 
user3956566
@Kyll @BhargavRao hi from the other day, I haven't been around much
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Tushar I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Tushar passed an audit!
Tushar passed a audit!
 
3:49 AM
Tushar passed a audit!
@AlexanderO'Mara I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
sd wins
 
4:05 AM
Alexander O'Mara passed a audit!
Alexander O'Mara passed a audit!
 
Hi all, is this an answer or another fell-through-the-cracks? stackoverflow.com/a/36299237
 
Rob
NAA
 
@Rob Thought so as well, when I flagged it. Some-one please reflag it if you see fit.
 
Rob
and cleared the flag
 
@Rob Guessed it was something like that (but that's why we have this fell-through-the-cracks phrase for this room :P)
 
Rob
4:10 AM
Yeah, I've reflagged and left the editor a message
 
Thanks!
 
Rob
Nope
 
@Tushar A .gov domain? Nah, just really unclear.
 
@Tushar Doesn't seem like it, more as an example of what they want.
 
Ok
 
4:14 AM
Now, what about this one: stackoverflow.com/a/36306250 Is it NAA (warning, I flagged it as such but it was declined, which I don't get: I interpret: I do not know how to get it solved after adding following:) How can that be an answer?
 
Rob
I suppose they meant to say "I don't know why it worked, but it did"
 
@Closey You have no more close votes today; come back in 19 hours.
@Closey reviews today
 
@Rob Sigh.. that could actually be it.. Non-english is so difficult for me
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 57 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 26 minutes and 13 seconds, averaging to a review every 27 seconds.
 
Rob
@GitaarLAB Yeah, sometimes it's a bit iffy. Unless I see it as absolutely not an answer (ie new question, gibberish, thanks, etc) - I either skip it or ask here as you did
 
4:18 AM
@Rob To bad I already flagged it. Now I'm at 6 declined but only have 5248 helpfull, now I must continue to 6000 to maintain my 1 in 1000. Thanks for helping me clarify that one though!
 
I sort of feel that if you're accurate to 1 in 1000, you're being too conservative, especially for flags that get handled by the community in LQP.
 
@JeffreyBosboom I'm only hunting/janitoring NAA's (because I have never been able to find a solid explanation/guide/rule to VLQ (other than loads of reasons when it would seem one should use it but really shouldn't)).
I kind of agree with Tunaki's proposal, VLQ should be gone (if no one can define it like shog9's castle philosophy)
@SmokeDetector flagged spam and downvoted
 
4:41 AM
I'm off to do some work. Thanks @Rob and have a great day all!
 
Rob
Alright, see ya later
 
oh, look at this, tons of crap waiting for delete votes on the reopen queue (hint: filter by POB first, that's where the shovel was born to be used)
 
Rob
So I heard Shog dumped 600 questions into the queue, but not sure why?
Or on what criteria?
 
he's bored and we are bored, so he solved two problems
 
Rob
4:51 AM
Cheers
 
I was almost reopening this one, out of pity for the people that has to use xcode stackoverflow.com/questions/803366/…
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Braiam Going through it, you can literally close your eyes and keep clicking Leave Closed
 
Rob
5:40 AM
@CindyMeister Please use [tag: cv-pls] (no space after the ':')- so that it automatically get's filtered to here: chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
@CindyMeister There are also scripts that will do it for you, if you would like. That's how those other comments are made.
 
6:11 AM
Heya. o/
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed a audit!
Magisch passed a audit!
 
Known good reopen audit with a downvote and only 4 upvotes?
why?
btw plop o/
 
Ian
6:29 AM
plop \o
 
@Magisch You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 20 minutes and 53 seconds, averaging to a review every 20 seconds.
 
tim \o
 
6:47 AM
Morning
 
I dont even know what to type as reason
no idea why someone would suggest that
 
How can an anonymous user even do that
 
because, backwash
 
Can't even spell backwash right
what a disgrace
 
Any [asp.net] expert here that think its worth editing this? The poster has made the mistake of not using code blocks for xml, so nothing shows up
 
6:56 AM
Has 1 approve already too
@ferry
the one reviewer who approved this bad edit has not rejected a single edit in the last 60 days
all approves
 
@Tunaki hey your post is "featured" in the hot section, maybe something will happen now
 
Actually
 
@Magisch Make a custom mod flag on the post, and include a link to this review, so moderators can handle it
 
that guy has never rejected an edit within his more then 140 SE reviews
 
@Magisch but how is he supposed to tell right from wrong? He's only been a member for 5 years....
 
7:01 AM
@Magisch He does it for the badges, if I look at his actions, this is good material for a mod flag
 
Flag text: "The user who reviewed this spammy edit to this answer (stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11838298) (user: stackoverflow.com/users/964741/rajareddy-polamreddy) has never rejected a single edit within his hundreds of suggested edit reviews (see here: stackoverflow.com/users/964741/…) I have reason to believe this is a robo-reviewer."
I know I shouldn't harp on users history
but 0 helpful flags in 5 years
ouch
 
Consider the possibility that he never raised one
 
7:18 AM
Morning
 
@kayess \o
 
@Mag \o @Tim
 
7:36 AM
Hiya
 
hi bossman
 
Ian
this user has the same profile picture as @TheLostMind --except for the arrows.
 
It's not an uncommon image
 
There are lots of sources for that image
 
Ian
7:44 AM
Maybe so, still it is the first time I see "duplicate" profile picture image with people in this room. :D
 
ios folks, this is highly suspicious stackoverflow.com/a/36324694/1743880 bounty question +2 link-only answer - worthy of a mod-flag?
 
Looks perfectly suspicious.
Threat neutralised. :)
 
@PraveenKumar don't do that
 
7:59 AM
@TimCastelijns Don't do what?
@TimCastelijns 1. The answerer targeted bounty question that was ending exactly at the time. 2. Posting a answer, with an immediate two votes is perfect time for suspicion. 3. My favourite reason: Even I have attempted such stuff in the past. ;) So I know who are culprits! :)
Did you see the link in the answer? It is really simple and it is of course, not helping the OP.
 
@Mogsdad two e? is it a typo? i.stack.imgur.com/HeW3p.png
 
Yeah guys, no talk about votes please. I was just asking for confirmation.
 
@Tunaki A custom modflag might be worth
 
8:23 AM
@KevinGuan What's this?
 
Unsolicited recommending of a commercial product, but still related
 
I would say this applies Exists only to promote a product or service
 
The link is dead, apparently.
 
The thing is 6 years old
so mind that
If its spam, its spam that has survived 6 years
 
The site he refers to is still up
Well, I flagged it
 
8:34 AM
Plop!
 
It is VLQ for me.
 
Is there another purpose besides promoting the service to it though
 
@Kyll Morning
 
@Magisch I would say no
 
@Kyll Hiya
 
8:36 AM
It was deleted
not sure by whom
 
Tunaki, community
@Kyll hey, I have a Q for you later, if you have time. Maybe discuss elsewhere
 
Plop : )
 
@KevinGuan Meta post on a question where you voted POB meta.stackoverflow.com/q/320126/1743880 (as last but maybe you can give insight)
 
@PetterFriberg plop
 
@PetterFriberg Hiya
 
8:42 AM
@Tunaki Yeah seems like a clear case and no cvs, there is already a good answer @KevinGuan
 
@PetterFriberg Hiya
 
@TimCastelijns Sure. There's the Ministry for off-topic discussions, or we can get a room
 
@Kyll I would like to get a room with you
 
Let's do that then
 
Kyll will turn you into a function @tim
 
8:43 AM
That sounded weird.
 
Really.
 
Oh @kayess o/
 
Oh @Tuna \o
 
Just kidding, ministry is fine
 
Let me cancel the booking then...
 
8:44 AM
What kind of services do you perform : )
 
Haskell will turn you into curry
 
9:08 AM
@JeffreyBosboom Not spam, I'm afraid: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/23190. It's borderline, I can see your reasoning, but I don't believe it's done as spam.
 
9:18 AM
deleted by owner
 
Feel bad for the guy
 
@Tunaki What happened?
 
He got smoke blacklisted and 4 offensive flags into his account less then a minute after posting it
oh well
 
The apocalypse.
The world has just ended. We're in the grace period right now.
 
@Tunaki /me clicks edit fanctically
 
9:21 AM
 
@rene \o
 
o/
 
\o
 
\o
 
9:22 AM
so apparently edits automatically remove redundant stuff in posts now like 'Hey' at the beginning..
 
Is it just me or since the 60/60 CV change alot less get made and resolved?
 
P\op rene!
 
^on that one I only fixed the dead link, I didn't touch the 'Hey,' bit at the top
 
@Magisch Its because we have less close votes to close them
 
@Magisch I'm not sure, but it's sure that my closure flags gets handled way faster than before the 60, hence the less number of cv-pls flood from me :p
 
9:23 AM
@Magisch I've been focusing more on burnination effort and the queue lately
 
@cybermonkey I think we covered that topic before but I would prefer if you didn't link to your own suggested edit for approval. It might be seen as collusion.
 
@Magisch I was asked to spend more votes on the cv-pls here and I have just done so
 
It would be best to leave that to the reviewers (and trust the queue to do its job right).
 
@Tunaki ah yes, forgot about that. apologies
anyhow.. when did the 'automatically remove redundant content' feature come into effect?
 
Im almost inclined to flag that as spam
 
9:25 AM
@cybermonkey Unless, y'know, you did what you think is a good edit suggestion but it still gets rejected. In that case you could ask people to look at it to confirm
 
@Braiam Yeah, how cool is that?
 
@Magisch Voting to close on Meta is so weird
 
@Tunaki o_O
Dear SE Team, This is not a spam question. I am researcher working in india. — Sangeeta 53 secs ago
 
Ninja'ed by the cultist
 
... and it's gone.
 
9:29 AM
@Magisch I knew I had seen that user before: meta.stackexchange.com/a/226891/158100
 
:29662501 tpu
 
@cybermonkey Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive.
 
Smokey spam handling has been really fast lately
 
Yah
 
@Kyll Not smokey, but the users responses.
 
9:30 AM
Smokey is like a death laser
get smokey reported, you're gone, often in less then a minute
 
@Magisch More like the lens of the laser - The light's emitted from the flaggers
 
Its depends on the users present in this and other chat's ...
 
yay, now got a nice screenshot of that question for sentimental purposes (jk)
 
Yes. Smokey is a laser blaster. Hence the extra caution needed when interacting with it.
 
I moved most of my smokey activity over to Charcoal HQ
 
9:32 AM
The winner is @Tushar ...
 
Must be frustrating for spammers to finally get past SO's automatic spam mechanisms to get account destroyed, IP limited and have their spam deleted in less then a minute and less then 10 views
 
It probably only has to work 1 times out of 10000 to have a positive net-gain.
 
Given how quickly Google crawls SE (or did, Google seems to rank SE sites lower recently), the posts don't necessarily need to live a long time to have an impact.
 
@Magisch 10 views is large for spam, most spam is actually put in a local for that ip page when its caught automatically for the content, it only gets 1 view there, themselfs
 
@SmokeDetector f on it
damn didnt even get to flag the second one
 
9:39 AM
Is my 1024 rep looks nerdish enough ?
 
@Magisch Flag first. Edit next.
@kayess Ha ha ha.
 
Mhm
 
@kayess I'd prefer you have 4096 :p
 
@Tunaki On it!
 
I see what @Tunaki means. SD getting >30s deletion times is a immense amount of power to wield for a normal user
 
9:40 AM
@kayess No, but those 4 shiny gold badges help a lot :)
 
@Gimby :)
 
Like
if someone failed a //!report
they could get a guy a spam deletion, -6 and -100 rep within a minute
 
I'm more and more thinking of a FR to provide an alternative privilege gain route via moderation...
 
@Magisch I look before flagging.
 
@Magisch This is why we should always be careful and deal with that kind of mistake quickly
 
9:43 AM
rep for moderation is never going to happen
 
@Magisch Please no! This would be awful
There's already some light privilege gains via moderation - amount of flags
It would be great if, say with random numbers, after close-flagging more than two thousand questions and with more than 95% helpful over declined/disputed you'd get close votes even before 3k
 
(remove last comment, misread the intent)
 
@Gimby You can also ---strike--- it with an edit =p
 
@kyll so noted, although I'll have to experiment with that to see how it really works :)
 
uses RO-powers to reveal what @gimby was up to...
 
9:46 AM
Tbh the only rep privilege I want that I dont already have is 10k
 
@Gimby You can run wacky experiments in the Testing Room or in the Ministry
 
everything else in the privs doesn'T interest me
 
@Magisch Same for me, but I am to lazy to get rep now
 
@Magisch I'd enjoy the 10k tools and seeing deleted posts, but I only answer when I can provide well-researched original content, which is rare
 
I'd run for mod sometime, but im afraid I lack the politician skills and rep for that
 
Rob
9:49 AM
Although, answer delete votes (and instant question delete votes) is nice
 
As a moderator, you cant afford to make mistakes without getting a metapost about the mistake
 
Well
A meta post is ok if it brings up an actual mistake
chat would be better but your own mistake beeing brought to your attention is always good
cant correct any without knowing about them
 
true enough, but the meta posts tend to do a lot of piling up in my opinion
 
And if its a legit smear attempt meta tends to react unkindly to that (see that smear attempt vs madara that almost resulted in the lounge getting deleted)
Its true, mods get more scrutiny on their actions, but I think thats good
I've been on the flipside of this coin as a moderator in minecraftforums.net, where mods have no accountability, there is nowhere to complain about a wrong decision, and public disagreement with a mod/admin is cause for permanent suspension
and that was not a nice environment
 
Yeah okay, but I used to read minecraftforums.net just to cringe at the quality of content ;) There ain't no moderating the product of kids conspiring together.
 
9:56 AM
I used to be a mod for the mapping and modding section
We had something like the mod flag queue
Other mods and admins would laugh at and ridicule the (mostly kids) stupid user posts in the mod only irc
 
Rob
@Sam Been playing around with the ChatExchange library - I've found that it sometimes takes ~5 minutes for _chatClient.JoinRoom(roomURL) to finish.. has this happened to you? (happens on 3 separate environments for me)
 
Some of the mods even used the PII's to dox people they got annoyed by
 
@Rob I'm waiting for someone to spin up a bot in here using the new Microsoft Bot Framework they announced last night :)
 
Rob
@DavidG Didn't hear about that - will take a look
 
@SmokeDetector that is spam translated...
 
10:01 AM
Woops, people already did that
 
You're late ...
 
Only had one coffee today
 
!!/coffee
 
@Ferrybig brews coffee for @Ferrybig
 
@Ferrybig passes the coffee to @kyll
 
10:03 AM
@Kyll drinks and thanks @Ferrybig at the same time
 
I already voted too broad ^
 
@Tunaki Agree with that answer and thanks for the link.
 
@kayess Unclear for me.
 
@kayess Lacks too much context. TB or Unclear fits
 
10:08 AM
Ok thanks
homework Q ?? ---^
 
@kayess More like a test one
 
10:33 AM
 
Sam
@Rob It varies with the room you join. The more (pingabe) people in the room, the longer it'll take to load.
 
Rob
Ah that makes sense.. is it looking up each person in the room?
 
Sam
Yeah
 
Rob
Cool, thanks :)
 
Sam
I'll see if I can come up with a fix today.
np :)
I've actually just pushed v5 last night (finally overhauled the ugly RequestManager).
 
Rob
10:42 AM
Yeah, I think I'm on 5.0.0.0
 
Sam
Also, hiya.
@Lafexlos Without defining "better" it could be pretty subjective.
But I don't know Python.
 
hey o/
 
Sam
\o
 
\o
 
10:53 AM
Is this unclear?
 
Rob
It looks like a tutorial
not a question
 
So it's closeworthy, but for what reason? It's not fit for DBA either.
 
May even be spam for his own blog, but I am unsure
 
Rob
Custom? It's not a question
 
I vote for unclear because its unclear what his question is
 
10:55 AM
Its perfectly clear to me
just not a question
 
Yes, but it is unclear what he is asking...
But yeah, it's advertising for his own blog too.
 
That the text is more or less copypasta and from OPs own blog (undisclosed in the Q itself) makes me want to spamflag this
 

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