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8:01 PM
@BhargavRao Meanwhile on meta... meta.stackoverflow.com/q/313204/1677912
@TylerH Thanks!
 
@Mogsdad Not a bug! It was always like that :P
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad, I cannot reproduce the error you mentioned there using the current version.
 
@TinyGiant ?
 
user4639281
The comment you left on the dark theme. (see the link I just pinged drew with)
 
8:05 PM
I like. TG has been officially added to my xmas card mailing list new image: i.imgur.com/iuUkrKg.jpg
 
hope it isn't just a bunch of dickbutt images printed out
 
@TinyGiant That was a while back. Probably got fixed with one of the other tweaks. no longer an issue.
 
user4639281
Cool
 
@TinyGiant do you have a screenshot of that btw?
we've done a couple dark themes for chat over in room 29074
 
user4639281
 
8:08 PM
thanks
 
user4639281
This one works for all of stack overflow. It breaks on some other SE sites, I haven't gotten around to fixing that yet.
 
what OS is that btw
I mean, distro
 
user4639281
Fedora 22 with Gnome
 
oh, fedora has its own magazine
 
user4639281
I only use Fedora 22 because it is the only distro that fully supports the latest Gnome
 
8:10 PM
Is Gnome the Windows driver support package thing
 
user4639281
It's the desktop environment.
 
wut
so how do other distros have a desktop if they don't have Gnome, then?
or you just mean they support old versions of Gnome but not the latest
 
they have a non-Gnome desktop
 
user4639281
KDE, XFCE, Unity, LXDE, Enlightenment, OpenBox
 
user4639281
Or an older "stable" version of Gnome, which I find... lacking.
 
user4639281
8:12 PM
Gnome completely changed the way that they did things, and the current stable versions are stable, but lacking in a lot of usefullness
 
note to self: buy win98 upgrade for TG xmas gift
 
user4639281
lulz
 
@TinyGiant less tabs please
 
user4639281
Lulz, inorite?
 
8:14 PM
I once had 60 tabs open and I pasted the answer to the wrong question ....
Embarrassing moments of life
 
Linux... sigh
I remember when I tried Ubuntu
@gunr2171 if you don't have at least 20 tabs open on your web browser are you really a power user?
 
@TylerH Lol, what's the prob with Ubu?
 
user4639281
@TylerH Ubuntu is garbage.
 
user4639281
It's like the windows version of linux.
 
@Drew I offered up a WinME machine a while back, he wasn't interested in the upgrade.
 
8:17 PM
@TinyGiant Minix is the best... What'd ya say?
 
user4639281
Minix is alright, I never spent much time on it. I look at what I'm going to be using the computer for and I have a set of distros I used based on that.
 
user4639281
Server -> CentOS
Desktop -> Fedora
Going to be used by other people -> Debian
 
I've used Ubu from 10.04 to 15.04 ... :P
 
Was it correct to reject the following edit on an answer, if the question is not about SSL at all? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/10655725
I ask, because there were also two approvals...
 
user4639281
I haven't used ubuntu in years, it's just wayyyyy too much bloat. Plus when they dropped support for wayland and decided to make their own wayland completely separate and proprietary, I swore I would never use it again.
 
8:19 PM
@honk I'd reject it too. It is a comment to the OP.
 
^ agree
 
user4639281
^ agree
 
Ok, thank you all!
 
user4639281
np
 
user4639281
Anyways, yeah Linux is about Open Source. It pretty well always has been. Ubuntu is moving farther and farther away from Open Source, because Open Source isn't profitable.
 
8:22 PM
@TinyGiant yeah, screw that company for trying to stay in business!
 
user4639281
Exactly.
 
red hat and ibm found it quite profitable
 
Ubu should have struck to it's principles ... sigh
 
service revenue
 
user4639281
RedHat isn't closed source though, they just charge for support, so you can actually talk to someone knowledgeable on the subject.
 
8:23 PM
a Freemium model
 
What to do with a question with an MCVE but the OP has messed up his thought and got the basic understanding wrong?
 
user4639281
Instead of my questions about fedora either going unanswered, or getting nonsense replies.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Is it XY?
 
msft is free too. try bizspark
 
@TinyGiant Nah, The primary concept that he is trying to achieve is wrong... (deleted btw)
 
user4639281
8:25 PM
@BhargavRao Uhm, without an example I don't really know what you're saying. (Voting to close your question as too broad)
 
Lol... I guess I need to wait quite long to find that typical example
 
user4639281
If what the OP is trying to do is impossible, post an answer saying it is impossible.
 
Ah! That is a possible way to get it correct. Tell it is impossible and then suggest alternatives.
 
user4639281
Yep
 
Nice. The semantic web and rdf related questions have a lot of these type problems.
 
8:28 PM
@BhargavRao I don't have a problem with it
 
user4639281
Anyone want to take a run though the unclosed requests? There are a bunch that only need one or two more votes to close.
 
link
I still have full CVs for the day
 
19 hours ago, by Tiny Giant
Recent Unclosed Request Review Script v1.0.0.0 released. It adds a button to the chat buttons controls; clicking on the button takes you to the recent unclosed close vote request query, then it scans the results for closed or deleted requests, or false positives and hides them.
 
oh, is it that pinned message over there?
 
tyler do you have the new handy dandy tampermonkey userscript
 
user4639281
8:34 PM
Yeah, that one.
 
oh
I don't use userscripts
I seem to recall it linked to an actual SO page
or SEDE page, at least
 
user4639281
Yeah there is a page, chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
don't call me a ho! :-(
 
@TinyGiant I'd do but started to watch a movie :(
 
newest first?
 
user4639281
8:35 PM
Yep
 
user4639281
But the userscript removes any closed or deleted requests (or false positives) and appends the info to each message
 
user4639281
It also adds a fancy button to make it easier to get to that page.
 
edits deserve an edit :) ah too late
 
user4639281
Alright, if you're running through it, let me know and then tell me when you're done so I can clear out all the closed ones.
 
I'm doing a few now
 
user4639281
8:37 PM
k
 
user4639281
btw, there's nothing past page 4 with close votes on it, so don't feel overwhelmed.
 
user4639281
I'm going for a smoke, I'll be back in a bit.
 
if they get jacked up to a 4 they become prominent on 10K tool pages
 
I guess Tiny picked a bad week to stop smoking.
 
perhaps the aged ones with few CV counts ought to be banished out of view
 
8:40 PM
So people smoke more in Winter to keep warm .... :/
 
I guess Tiny picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.
 
user4639281
lol
 
attracting
 
user4639281
No more close votes.
 
> Possible dublicate of
 
user4639281
8:44 PM
@Drew I posed an idea about that to the rest of the RO's.
 
and those posters lashed publicly with large wet spaghetti
 
Btw @TinyGiant this one chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=27632420#27632420 can be removed from the list because it was reopened and the MCVE added
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Done
 
I remember asking for this functionality. Now we have it. Be careful for what you ask for :P
 
8:56 PM
okay, I'm done
 
what to do with them if mcve is barked upon, and they seem to supply it later
cuz if you are not a domain expert on some of this stuff, ya know
 
user4639281
Ask the requester if it is acceptable.
 
user4639281
@gunr are you still running through them?
 
I'm done
 
user4639281
k, and you @drew?
 
9:01 PM
give me 10 min
unless ya wanna re-scan
 
user4639281
No, I'll wait until you're done. Get as many in one go as I can.
 
Wait, for dupe cv's shouldn't the cv-er supply the dupe?
 
yes
you literally have to if you want to close it as a dupe
 
oh, you don't have to post the dupe here
the duplicate will be listed in the question comments
 
9:03 PM
It's not there anywhere!
 
@TinyGiant I've done 3
 
@alirezasafian are you around ?
 
user4639281
You hammered it closed, then hammered it open again.
 
@TinyGiant Loooll!!! facepalm
 
user4639281
9:08 PM
 
That was the controversial close question. :D
@TinyGiant I am done.
 
user4639281
K
 
user4639281
@rene Thanks.
 
I will start the movie now.
 
is this Q adequately NOT mcve anymore stackoverflow.com/questions/34367302/…
thank you @MaximillianLaumeister related to a diff Q that is
 
user4639281
@Drew Definitely not MCVE enough.
 
meaning keep it as mcve or it is resolved
 
user4639281
It should be closed.
 
@NisseEngström what do you mean with that comment about deleted posts? It shows your deleted posts, right?
There was a bug report last week but that is fixed: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/271062/…
 
can this request be made as considered resolved stackoverflow.com/q/34233462/1816093
 
user4639281
9:22 PM
@BhargavRao ^^
 
The OP has reduced the code to an MCVE...
So I wouldn't consider not an MCVE ... Searching for dupes.
 
is this JS / ng request resolved stackoverflow.com/q/34084235/1816093
 
user4639281
@Drew No MCVE. That's only a snippet of the full code.
 
right, it was zero code on rev1
 
user4639281
commented.
 
9:28 PM
@Closey starting
 
@rene Good luck!
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Sam
Good, the bots are fine.
@gunr2171 +1 for airplane ref.
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 24. Posts pending review: 0.
 
attracting
 
9:36 PM
@Sam you forgot to put @Yam a hat
 
Sam
Eh
 
Lol... They're twins aren't they?
 
Sam
Last time I did that for Pham, I kept getting all his notifs on my phone.
 
rene passed an audit!
@rene You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 13 minutes, averaging to a review every 20 seconds.
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
 
9:43 PM
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 12 seconds ago and lasted 14 minutes and 45 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 22 seconds.
 
user4639281
Alright here we go, clearing all requests older than three days (the request date, not the post date) with 0 close votes from the whole transcript.
 
user4639281
Lets see how this works.
 
Winterbash over? Can no longer see the snowflake and any hats...
 
9:45 PM
@honk refresh
 
user4639281
I'm not seeing hats either.
 
same here
 
@BhargavRao Did already several times...
 
We're done
 
user4639281
damn it didn't work.
 
9:46 PM
Asking on meta
 
It's too warm anyway. Here we go to Summerbash...
 
hats seem gone to me, too. i thought they usually lasted past new year's
 
user4639281
Forgot to multiply by 1000
 
user4639281
Running it again.
 
9:47 PM
Damn
I sooo thought I could get the Field work for that
 
@BhargavRao fixed
 
Yep. They are back
 
For me as well...
 
We're having a few technical issues, basically you took too many hats and there is a backlog... — bluefeet ♦ 15 secs ago
 
someone pushed the wrong button
 
9:54 PM
aging cv=4 i went cannot repro stackoverflow.com/q/33550485/1816093
aging cv=4 i went too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/34199620
 
user4639281
Alright, the logic should be correct now. Trying it again.
 
there are 2 dupe targets which one: stackoverflow.com/questions/34192723 it is aging has 3 cv
 
user4639281
dammit.
 
@Drew too bad i dont have css3 badge :-(
 
i figured you had all the badged :P
 
10:01 PM
nah. too bad i already voted on it. if someone had edited in the css tag, i could have hammered it :p
 
@Drew closed
 
css3 gold badge is actually kinda rare
 
user4639281
forgot a [i]
 
user4639281
Alright, so this should work.
 
@cimmanon kinda? Only one user has it!
oh, 6
I have a bronze badge in it :-D
 
10:04 PM
I see css3 I remember BoltClock :P
 
interestingly, 4 of the 6 holders earned the badge this year
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
err... fail
 
agreed ^
 
10:08 PM
@TylerH 1 per year Python3 stackoverflow.com/help/badges/3067
 
i agree 2
 
user4639281
 
i agree 3
 
actually maybe i dont agree
 
Oops, it's 4 am and I have forgotten to go and sleep.
Bye all...
 
user4639281
10:12 PM
Bye
 
user4639281
Alright, it should all be fixed now.
 
The marked dupe is asking whether one should use malloc
this question is asking how to use malloc
 
i did reopen
 
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10:14 PM
 
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good, gooooood puts lightsaber away
 
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10:14 PM
 
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Need to go to sleep as well. Bye!
 
10:15 PM
ha i deserved a swipe by one
 
user4639281
There, 1381 old requests with 0 close votes moved.
 
yeehaw
 
user4639281
From now on, any request older than 3 days with 0 close votes will be moved.
 
And I thought Shog's CV aging was strict...
 
how about the current view tho
 
user4639281
10:16 PM
@Drew That will update in ~15 minutes
 
user4639281
@TylerH If it doesn't have any close votes after three days in the room, we obviously did not agree with the closure.
 
ya know what is good about the current view: if it is old, and it has a few CV's on it, it suggest a problem !
^^^^ @KevinGuan good use of italics
 
user4639281
@Drew We'll still keep any unclosed requests that have more than 0 close votes, no matter how old they are.
 
right, so if we are talkin about hats and get distracted, the view keeps it there
 
user4639281
Yup.
 
user4639281
10:21 PM
@Drew That definitely does not have an MCVE.
 
ok now u told me twice consider it gone
 
:27709977 i have no idea why anyone would reopen that in the first place
 
user4639281
@cimmanon 36.7k user advocated for it's reopening.
 
i see that. thats very strange
 
@Drew Casting or no casting makes no difference at all in this case
 
10:23 PM
right
 
does someone editing automatically nominate it for reopening?
 
@TinyGiant oooor nobody with CVs left saw it before it scrolled out of view :-)
 
user4639281
@cimmanon no
 
it appears so cimm
really, then it must be a flag or something no
 
@cimmanon it doesn't give it a Reopen vote but edits to closed posts for certain reasons will put it in the Reopen Queue
 
10:24 PM
I thought I have seen things in the reopen queue with 0 reopen votes
 
aka Unclear what you're asking, etc.
 
user4639281
@TylerH Well, we actually close around 90% of the requests that come into the room, plus with that query and the userscript we get a lot of eyes on these requests. It is extremely uncommon for a request to have zero close votes after three days unless it was a bad request (I scanned through a whole lot of the 0 close voted recent requests and most of them just didn't deserve closure).
 
@TinyGiant I'm just giving you a hard time :-)
 
user4639281
@TylerH Yeah, but the user who edited cast the first reopen vote. She was wondering if editing automatically submitted a reopen vote, which it does not.
 
Plop!
@Mogsdad Ah...yep. Also thanks Tiny.
 
user4639281
10:28 PM
Editing within five days of closure will put a question in the reopen queue, if it hasn't already been through the reopen queue.
 
user4639281
But in no way will editing ever automatically submit a reopen vote.
 
@TinyGiant Does that mean if you edit a closed question after 5 days it doesn't go into the reopen queue anymore?
 
user4639281
@Rizier123 Not according to the help center, but that information may be stale.
 
user4639281
The unclosed requests query is down to 193 messages including false positives.
 
user4639281
Nothing on page 4 or 3 (all false positives)
 
Sam
10:33 PM
@TinyGiant wth
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 59. Posts pending review: 0.
 
user4639281
17 mins ago, by Tiny Giant
From now on, any request older than 3 days with 0 close votes will be moved.
 
Sam
Ah
 
user4639281
1381 unclosed requests older than 3 days with 0 close votes (- the closed / deleted ones since the last run)
 
Should this be closed as typo? stackoverflow.com/questions/34425523/…
 
Sam
10:35 PM
And that would explain why there's only 59 posts on the list.
 
user4639281
Yup :)
 
Sam
So it didn't break \o/
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Not a typo if someone forgot to call a function. Just not really useful.
 
user4639281
@Sam Nope :) He's not borked.
 
Sam
:)
Well I'll be off now.
 
10:36 PM
@TinyGiant Huh, so downvote instead.
 
Sam
See you guys tomorrow.
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Yup
 
user4639281
@Sam Cya
 
@Sam Cya
 
This is a fight that I'm not going to pick. One user posts a question tagged . Another user changes the tag to to fit his answer, and a third user edits the question to fix one of the bugs.
 
10:39 PM
stellar. Good news is that fight was 15 months ago
 
user4639281
There is 7647 messages in the close vote request graveyard.
 
user4639281
I'm off for a bit. I'll be back soon.
 
This is related, by the way.
There is some disagreement about it.
Powering off for 4 hours of scheduled downtime. G'night.
 
nite.
 
Night
 
11:05 PM
@KevinGuan did you see the latest and greatest userscript
 
@Drew Which one?
 
TG made a tweak, it puts a "requests" button to the right of send and update buttons
 
Yep, I know and using it.
 
cool, you were away for a bit
 
Ah, yep :)
 
11:13 PM
@Unihedron it is resolved, can we remove this request (tho it has 3 cv) chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=27359252#27359252
 
@Drew indifferent
 
one more for this and it leaves our queue script stackoverflow.com/q/34081212/1816093
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan There have been a few updates since you were last on, now it changes the colors of links you've visited.
 
@TinyGiant Oh cool, that's what I want, updating!
 
notice how I say "our" since it is working great
@TinyGiant can the script be made to have a click do an open target to new tab. That way once reviewed that UX is quickly dispatched, prior screen left alone, plus it probably saves on API allotment 10K thing
... just a thought, nothing earth shattering
 
user4639281
11:23 PM
@Drew So you want the question links to automatically open in a new tab? I usually just hold ctrl while clicking them.
 
ok will do. was thinking like the way this screen we are on does links
are we still on 1.0.0.3 ?
 
user4639281
No, it's 1.0.0.6 now.
 
user4639281
But, yeah I can make them open in new tabs automatically like this page.
 
sweet i like the orange blue history coloring on links
 
@TinyGiant <base target="_blank"> :P
 
11:31 PM
now TG has to tell Kev some python stuff he already knows
 
^ upvoted
@Tiny Can we request move a to trash can if it's a wrong request or OP edited his question?
 
user4639281
lulz
 
So what's the answer?
 
11:46 PM
could it be agreed that the following is not closable: stackoverflow.com/q/34230902/1816093 it was edited after rev1
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan It depends.
 
@TinyGiant Huh? Depends what?
 
@KevinGuan I'd say no. If it's a wrong request it probably spawned discussion, so leave it around for context and future reference. If OP edited... Meh. That's a job for manual reviews and Yam.
Also plop =D
 
Plop!
 
user4639281
On the example request. I'm not going to move every wrong request because it will be removed automatically once the votes age away.
 
11:50 PM
@Drew Needs quite some editing, but I'm not familiar with the technology.
 
@Yam Did you hear that? :P.
@TinyGiant Okay that's fine.
 
user4639281
@Drew I'm not familiar enough with the technology to say.
 
I guess it comes down to who wants to endure the cleanup, and unless it is harmful just let it age away
 
user4639281
If someone wants to revoke their own request after the grace period is over, I might consider it.
 
maybe we should just vtc or not talk about it then
 
user4639281
11:52 PM
Yup
 
user4639281
@Kyll Plop :P
 
and from the angle of your inbox, that inbox is happier
 
user4639281
There were a bunch of updates to the recent unclosed userscript, which includes changing the color of visited links. @Kyll
 
Yay
Let me try it!
 
user4639281
Plus we made the size of the query smaller.
 
user4639281
11:54 PM
There is only a page and a half of requests now.
 
Nice. No colour change here though, could it conflict with my dark style?
 
user4639281
Possibly. It should change them blue once they are visited.
 
user4639281
Works with my dark theme.
 
works on mine (which is problably TG's)
 
Dangit.
 

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