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user4639281
12:00 AM
(Kyll doesn't like my dark theme because it is too mechanical)
 
(I think it was because it was too flashy)
 
@TinyGiant (I think you mean )
 
user4639281
It's not really all that flashy...
 
i think it is rather subdued
 
user4639281
It happens to contain hints of Tiny Giant yellow.
 
12:02 AM
Batman would like it
 
user4639281
yup
 
user4639281
Alright, any other improvement suggestions for the request script before I push the next update?
 
tags
 
user4639281
You want to see the tags for the question?
 
maybe rev 1.5.0.0
 
12:04 AM
@Drew Wait, no
That should be an improvement for the [cv-pls] request maker
 
user4639281
@Kyll I think that would just be too much noise, and tags change.
 
a drew-fork in the source code
 
@TinyGiant Just the best tag, and why not only if it's among some k most popular tags
 
define best
 
user4639281
So... never then?
 
12:06 AM
Most popular among all tags. Similar to the way tags are ordered below a question
 
user4639281
Just the first tag then?
 
update request: only python questions-user <time>
 
@TinyGiant is the best tag for PHP questions. Says a lot about them.
^ Yes, thanks Kevin
Something like so.
 
If the question doesn't have any popular tag, just don't put it
 
12:07 AM
good ideas guys
 
user4639281
That would be relatively easy. But the next version of the cv-pls script is going to be a little while yet. I'm still completely rewriting it.
 
Ah, okay
 
user4639281
The next incarnation of it won't be just for close votes.
 
Is that the hype train I'm hearing?
 
user4639281
lol
 
12:13 AM
Well, I'm off to bed. Good night!
 
user4639281
Night
 
Night
Fan-hat-ic hat looks so strange.
 
user4639281
@Drew updated, links open in a new tab.
 
thx
 
user4639281
Off for a bit.
 
12:19 AM
@KevinGuan You mean... absolutely beautiful.
 
@approxiblue Wow, new avatar :P
 
1:13 AM
morning'
 
Morning
@Tiny Why does '123'.match(/\d/g) gives ["1", "2", "3"] but /\d/g.exec('123') only gives ["1"]?
 
Oh wait, the first result is the full match. The rest of the results for exec are the parenthesized matches, of which /\d/g has none (docs)
 
I have no idea about JavaScript Regex functions...But seems there's no difference between JS regex and PY regex.
Oh, good doc :P
 
user3956566
1:34 AM
Just curious there were 4 split votes on this stackoverflow.com/questions/34420489/… too broad and one other, I think voted POB (not votes on POB) and it was closed as POB.. how does that work?
 
Perfectly split votes go to the last choice
 
user3956566
even if it doesn't agree with any of the previous votes?
 
Except that one wasn't perfectly split
 
> "Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam. Instead, describe the problem and what has been done so far to solve it." – That1Guy, furas
Closed as recommend or find a book, to...
 
Two people picked that option
 
user3956566
1:36 AM
@KevinBrown where can you see that the break down?
 
@MsYvette There are two names at the end of that message, only reason why I know
 
user3956566
@KevinBrown oh never mind, I can't read
 
Back, was eating breakfast.
@MsYvette Well...what is that question asking?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan there's a bunch of posts from with 4 close votes if you want to have a look at them with TGs script. I can't vote, already voted on them
 
Rob
Seems to be a 'fix my code for me' question
 
1:48 AM
@MsYvette Oh, I forgot that script. However about that , isn't unclear?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan @Rob look at the answer to it
 
Rob
@MsYvette Yeah, that's what I mean. They got a syntax error and were too lazy so figure out the language they're programming in, so they came to SO to get free work done
 
user3956566
@Rob oh k yeh I know :/
 
@MsYvette Oh, checked, voted, edited.
 
user3956566
tthanks guys :)
 
1:53 AM
@MsYvette Well, where's that script? I can't find it now...
 
@KevinGuan It's the very first pinned message I believe
 
Nah, not that one.
 
user3956566
looking for it. I've installed it, so am not sure if I can provide it for you.
 
Oh, I think I can find it from Tiny's github page, searching...
 
Rob
Is it just me or is SO extremely slow today?
 
user3956566
1:57 AM
not for me
 
Rob
Must by the work network then
Frustrating
I can't even procrastinate at work properly
 
@MsYvette Nevermind, I found that.
@Rob It's normal for me.
 
user3956566
@Rob I'm really having trouble focusing.. think it's that time of year
 
@KevinGuan Which script, Kevin? MsY was talking about the Recent Unclosed Request Review Script, I believe. Which is pinned over there --->
 
@Mogsdad Well, @MsYvette I think not that right?
 
user3956566
2:01 AM
No the one that shows posts with 4 closed votes using one tag
 
Yeah, that one.
 
TG's public userscripts are in the SOCVR repository and his own repository, MagicCloseVoteReview sounds like what you are looking for
 
Yep, already found it.
@Pham alive
 
@KevinGuan Still here you guys!
 
@Closey alive
 
2:05 AM
@KevinGuan I think I'll go for a walk...
 
you better work with me before go
@Closey starting
 
@KevinGuan Happy reviewing!
 
@KevinGuan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan it's like querying the user and then some strange suggestion (strange due to the :( face)
 
2:13 AM
@MsYvette Seems so, voted to delete.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan yeh it was borderline, but that fact we couldn't really understand it gives it reason for deletion as low quality.
 
@MsYvette Yeah, that one. Unclear what you're answering ;)
 
@KevinBrown Oh - cool!
 
user3956566
ok I'm outta votes so I'll see you all tomorrow
 
Cya
 
2:26 AM
what version number is at the top of your script
 
2:42 AM
Kevin passed a audit!
 
passed java audit
 
2:55 AM
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Mogsdad passed a audit!
 
Answered another tumbleweed question today... let's see if this op accepts it!
Hey, @Tiny
 
user4639281
Hello :)
 
How do I use the custom review script? (note: out of cvs currently.)
 
Hi everyone.
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
3:05 AM
It queries the api for low scoring questions in a given tag in pages of 100, then it filters by a given minimum number of close votes per question.
 
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my answer here? It's at -2 but I have no idea what's wrong or unhelpful about it, and I can't fix the problem until I identify it.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad You'll want to head over to stackapps.com/apps/oauth/register and get an api key. that way you can query 10000 pages per day instead of only 300.
 
it's been out there for a while tiger. when did it start taking on water
 
@TinyGiant I'm getting nothing for 1 / javascript / 1. Why would that be?
 
I posted it over a month and a half ago. It got -1 after being up for several hours, and then another -1 today. I'm confused.
 
3:09 AM
i get nothing either. never did
it's not like it is on anyone else's radar, Tiger
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 (timeline) You received one downvote the day it was posted, and one downvote yesterday. I'm guessing the votes are a comparison against the two answers.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Probably wasn't anything in the first 100 questions with a close vote.
 
That's the thing; I don't know how my answer is so much worse in comparison to the other one.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Also, you'll want to watch the console. It will print information as it goes.
 
user4639281
With an api key, I usually do 100 / tag / 4
 
user4639281
3:11 AM
Without the API key, you would be out of your quota in 3 queries.
 
user4639281
Also, it builds upon the last query, unless you change the tag or the minimum.
 
I'm considering asking on Meta.
 
@TinyGiant What? Do you think I'm a noob to userscripts? You think I forgot to check the console? Oh, wait. I forgot to check the console.
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 I think the first answer succinctly answers the question, whereas your answer corrects a bunch of other stuff about the code in the question. I've noticed that people tend not to vote up the latter, sometimes even downvoting it.
 
what benefit is meta except sympathy votes
 
3:14 AM
@TinyGiant I don't get it.
 
user4639281
I wouldn't raise a question about it on meta, unless you're ok with the possibility of receiving another 10 downvotes on it.
 
you won't find a smarter python guy on meta than the one sitting in your seat
 
@Drew :3
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 A lot of people want answers that just answer the question asked, that's it. I don't like that, but that is what a lot of people think.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad lulz
 
3:16 AM
If it makes you feel any better, I couldn't answer a question in a certain tag without it starting out at -1. That dv came from a certain personality type shall we say
 
Is more explanation bad then? I thought it was good. From my (admittedly subjective) view, my answer has a more thorough explanation, more useful information, and a more direct algorithm that omits an unnecessary function. But it's gotten not one, but two DVs. And the other one is at +5. I'm just so confused here.
 
user4639281
brb
 
Object {has_more: true, quota_max: 300, quota_remaining: 237, page: 1, page_size: 100…}
has_more: true
page: 1
page_size: 100
quota_max: 300
quota_remaining: 237
total: 1011108
type: "question"
 
you are reading into it way too much. just keep doing what you are doing. You must be doing something right. The 2nd guy could have been pounding highballs as far as you know
 
@TinyGiant But blank.
 
3:19 AM
I guess. It just feels like I haven't been able to help programmers much in the past couple days; getting nothing but DVs and arguments.
 
My last run at trying to answer questions, I thought, was good content. Then again they are lost on the subject matter. And they are the ones that get to decide good content. Go figure. So I took a few days off. Sometimes, I just wiki answer
 
Rob
@TigerhawkT3 Forget about it. From what I've seen most people vote based on previous votes. An answer (even a good one) with a negative score is far more likely to be downvoted again by people skimming through the post (don't know why)
Same goes with upvoted answers too
 
They are confused. You went insightful. They are like, well this must be bad (like Rob said)
 
But I have lots of rep and gold badges! That's supposed to guarantee rep! :P
 
Put on some headphones and some fun music
 
Rob
3:24 AM
Usually it does :P
 
remember, they didn't get here on a winning streak, and you can't buy cheeseburgers with the points
I just looked at your answer again. I think the problem is this. They are looking for a lollipop put in their mouth (the answer with +5). You gave them a densely packed answer with TMI that they don't understand. So, think Dr. Seuss Coloring Book, and not something scientific.
 
Rob
His answer is actually more copy+pastable than the other, though. The other one doesn't print
 
There are times when I answer a question like that (the way you did), and I realize there is no chance someone willing to upvote (noobs) are going to understand the answer. So I dummy it way down. The domain experts (your answer quality) are NEVER going to upvote anyway
 
Rob
Not to mention it appears OP went with Tigerhawks' answer, but didn't upvote or accept the answer
 
Right so at the time the op was like rep 5 or so, and it was doomed, and the op hasn't been back for 20 days
 
user4639281
3:34 AM
@Mogsdad Hmm, have you tried doing more pages? I've never gotten anything with just one page in any tag.
 
And the op has asked 5 questions total, and has never Accepted any
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad That's what it is supposed to output.
 
user4639281
one of those for every page.
 
user4639281
To make sure that it is doing something.
 
@Drew I'm sorry to replay late. How can I help you?
 
3:38 AM
@alirezasafian ah that one I think TG said it lacked the mcve so I think we are all set on that one. That one meaning we were trying to clean up some pending close requests
 
You mean this question, NO MVC is correct.
 
@alirezasafian but if you don't have TG's userscript that shows the last 3 days of requests, perhaps you should get it. Because a number of them were yours
 
user4639281
@Drew The userscript omits your own requests.
 
yeah that was the one. I was the 5th vote hold-out on the cv on that one
yes TG. I realize now how dumb my comment was !
It might be good if it wasn't omitting your own tho
 
@Drew I think I can see the last 3 day of request.
 
@Drew I see @TinyGiant How can I get userscript?
 
user4639281
yesterday, by Tiny Giant
Recent Unclosed Request Review Script v1.0.0.0 released. It adds a button to the chat buttons controls; clicking on the button takes you to the recent unclosed close vote request query, then it scans the results for closed or deleted requests, or false positives and hides them.
 
@TinyGiant Done. Thank you.
 
user4639281
Np, now you have a new button in your chat controls named requests, click on that.
 
3:56 AM
but as Tiny said, you won't see your own requests
 
@Drew It is true.
 
user4639281
@Drew It's designed to slim the list down to only what you can act on as much as possible, with the exclusion of filtering out questions you've already voted to close because that just takes too much time. Viewing your own requests is not useful information because you can't vote on them.
 
I know. Takes longer to find your own list. That is all
 
user4639281
Just disable the userscript temporarily and look for yellow.
 
k
@tiny wasn't this the Q you liked last night: stackoverflow.com/q/34409831/1816093
 
user4639281
4:16 AM
@Drew I didn't like it, it just doesn't need an mcve and it isn't too broad. It is most likely a dupe though.
 
user4639281
If you know what height your toolbar is going to be, just add that much padding-top to the body. @CloseVoters: This question does not require an MCVE, is not Too Broad without code, and is otherwise clear an on-topic. — Tiny Giant 13 secs ago
 
4:34 AM
spam or not spam (see my comments below Q) stackoverflow.com/q/18024103/1816093
 
@Drew Generally I don't consider questions asked by spammers to improve their spamming to be spam. I don't approve of them (usually), but they are still valid questions.
 
Not that he is a spammer in the desire to improve their code, but that they are able to leave content that is never deleted.
And he won
 
user4639281
@Drew It's his actual code, sales pitch and all. And it's a question about a sales api, so.... I'd say no.
 
that previous smokedetector guy needs to write a code block :P
 
Note that the question will probably be roomba'd at some point in the near future because of where the votes are sitting, so this specific case isn't going to be an issue for much longer
 
Rob
4:44 AM
That really doesn't look like spam, though..
 
back in 2013 or before with electric power de-regulation, peeps were hot to market swapping out your so called electric provider
it was a frothy internet scheme
 
Rob
Maybe so, but his application appears to be providing an interface to their store - so it's not unheard of to have some marketing/sales pitch in it
Even so, if it were spam directed at SO it'd probably not require a keen eye to spot and dial a number :)
 
who would dial the number but someone that wanted to save money on electric
Are mod's dialing numbers ?
Anyway, roomba cleans it up now
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
^^ See the answer by the editor
 
Rob
5:30 AM
Why does this question indicate that Shaik Raffi initially asked the question, when it was infact Jeff Atwood
Shaik made an edit that was rolled back, in the middle of the history
 
I didnt read it. People were confused
 
user4639281
5:56 AM
@Rob I'd say that has to be a bug, it's saying that 41% of the edits were done by that users, which doesn't make sense.
 
6:11 AM
can we close this Q. Look at the answer that just trickled in or any of them stackoverflow.com/q/1055387
 
user4639281
Primarily Opinion Based.
 
6:32 AM
@TinyGiant Ah, got it.
@MsYvette Well, I've just figured out that your advises are so useful. However, thanks again.
And afk again.
 
user4639281
@Drew Too Broad.
 
thx
 
user4639281
 
user3956566
6:49 AM
@KevinGuan what about love?
 
user3956566
Does this happen to anyone else? I post an answer, there are two others. The Op comments on both others, and keeps chatting with one answerer and totally ignores mine. That answerer even edits their post to include what I have written in mine. It's like being invisible and it's happened numerous times.. and generally I provide more code than the other answers. Is it too hard for the OP to read the code?
 
user4639281
Yeah, that happens, nothing much can be done.
 
That actually happened to me recently. I raised a flag that I knew would get declined, and it did. /shrug
 
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 sorry to whinge, it just calms me down when I know it's not just me.. And I saw your downvoted answer the other day on Eng and I'm like why?
 
Because.
 
user3956566
6:53 AM
so how is everyone?
 
Meh.
 
user4639281
Wonderful and Magical.
 
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 I'm with you.. trying to finish a job and will be working over xmas
 
user3956566
slightly ooping myself
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant nice :D
 
6:55 AM
If you have a job, you're not exactly with me. :P
 
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 I get work in bits and pieces. Working fulltime atm
 
Well, I sort of have a job, but it's only 5-10 hours a month.
 
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 She's working with wordpress, 'nuff said
 
Is that bad?
 
user4639281
I'd say it is worse than not working.
 
user3956566
6:57 AM
@TinyGiant and PHP and database and android.
 
Like, Sharepoint bad?
 
user4639281
Worse. Wordpress seems to be able to convince people its good, even though it is really really bad.
 
Good Lord.
 
user3956566
Customised wp site and a db with no FK
 
user3956566
not one
 
user3956566
6:58 AM
I ehat wp
 
user4639281
MySQL?
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
and deprecated android code
 
user4639281
I pity you.
 
user3956566
thank you kind sir
 
user3956566
6:59 AM
can you imagine a db with no FKs?
 
I can't imagine a db with no FKs, but I can't imagine a db with FKs either, because I don't know what a foreign key is or does and I've never messed with dbs. :)
 
user4639281
I'm off for tonight. Bye
 
user3956566
It's assists in preserving data integrity
 
user3956566
night @TinyGiant
 
user3956566
what's wrong with Kevin?
 
7:03 AM
Night TG.
 
idk kinda busy with stuff
nite tg
 
user3956566
he pinged me and has disappeared.. that's why I came here
 
user3956566
hm
 
user3956566
Ok I better get back to it too
 
user3956566
talk soon guys :D
 
7:04 AM
over and out
 
user3956566
;)
 
be good
 
user3956566
I'll try :D
 
but not that good
 
Heya, morning.
 
7:44 AM
Back, was busy on cooking. It's 3:41 PM but I still didn't eat lunch!
And will go to eat soon.
 
Morning o/
 
Morning \o
sd k but I think I don't need tell you that since it's spam, spam, spam, spam spam :P
Wait, I didn't flag it...
 
ctrl-H
oh too late
 
See, lost a free flag.
@Closey current session
 
@KevinGuan Your current review session started 5 hours, 48 minutes and 52 seconds ago at 2015-12-23 02:05:45 UTC
 
7:54 AM
Dammit, forgot end it before go outside.
 
8:30 AM
meow
 
do we agree that this MSE oAuth question would be too broad for SO?
 
@rene I'm ok with #2 at the bottom, the rest is too broad
 
OK
 
there are more than 2 questions there
 
8:34 AM
Is this question on-topic? Looks nothing to do with programming. stackoverflow.com/review/close/10661189
 
@rene you could share the following with the guy stackoverflow.com/a/34429311/1816093
my comments at the bottom at least
@KevinGuan to me it is off topic, and it is not an audit question
 
@Drew No, it's not an audit.
 
9:00 AM
\o
 
Morning!
 
Morning David o/
 
9:20 AM
sp tpu-
 
user3956566
some advice.. three answers on a question. It turns out none of them work. The OP then adds more to the question which totally changes the question, but the answers cannot answer the question without this.. What to do? roll back and just ask for a new question or scrap the work in the answers?
 
Probably depends on the question and what info was added
 
user3956566
the answers aren't bad for the original quetion
 
without seeing it, rollback, ask em to ask a new question for tack on stuff or whatever
 
9:23 AM
I don't know enough Android-y stuff to help really.
 
user3956566
thanks guys, yeh I did and told the OP why, we were in a discussion
 
user3956566
I didn't want to make that call on my own
 
9:40 AM
Just failed (a very bad) audit. The funny part is I should realized that it's an audit because: Asking a question about and but tagged ??
 
...
 
...
 
...
 
...
 
9:59 AM
sd ...
 
Smokey is a combo breaker :(
 
/me eating chocolate, looking at Smokey.
 
10:26 AM
It's just so bad how much crap gets upvoted in the PHP tag and not just 1 vote..
 
Makes sense, since everything in the PHP tag is crap
 
It gets upvoted, not downvoted
 
It know it was just a desperate attempt at a joke
 
@TimCastelijns Rizier123: A PHP guy who has gold PHP tag badge.
 
10:46 AM
And plop!
 
Plop! =D
 
@Tim Why?
 
Sorry my bad, it was not to me
 
@alirezasafian Meh, there's almost all needed data. A small edit from OP could fix the question and make it great.
 
10:51 AM
@Kyll Right.
 
@Tushar Voted unclear, I don't understand the requirements and the provided code is invalid JS.
Oh, should I post another for a different, unrelated reason (no MCVE before, Dupe now) or just reply to the previous one?
@Yam refresh
 
Yam
Forcing refresh, one moment...
Refresh complete.
 
@MsYvette how familiar are you with dialogs in android?
 
11:12 AM
I don't get why spam gets to -9 or -10 without being destroyed. Don't people realise? Should we add a "PLEASE FLAG AS SPAM" comment?
 
Does SO have an auto delete below a certain score?
 
Not that I know
I've seen posts -30
181
A: How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion?

jjnguyHow can a post be deleted? By a user: You can typically delete your own posts at will; for exceptions, see When can’t I delete my own post? below. To delete a post, just use the delete link below it. Moderators can delete any post instantly. Users with reputation ≥ 2k (more precisely, the edit...

 
Is it a bug that it says "unknow"? i.stack.imgur.com/0kKpZ.png
 
@Kyll I have started some guidance here
 
@Thaillie maybe it's the username ;)
 
11:27 AM
@TimCastelijns I can't find it in the revisions :p
 
Is this question still should be deleted after edited or not? stackoverflow.com/review/close/10663388
 
it doesn't seem unreasonable
 
@KevinGuan OP used this post to make an entirely unrelated question. It does not have any answer so it does not invalidate them... I'm not familiar with the tech involved, but it looks OK
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns pretty good why?
 
@Kyll Also don't know anything about android. @Tim You've edited it, what about it?
 
11:34 AM
@MsYvette I had an activity with dialog theme that would show a tiny box with the app name behind the actual dialog, but fixed it now
 
sd ...
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns ah k transparency issue?
 
@KevinGuan I have no opinion
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan what Q?
 
@MsYvette something to do with the title, because <item name="windowNoTitle">true</item> fixed it
 
11:35 AM
never knew we had guidelines for reviewing: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/155538/…
2
 
@Kyll I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
What? No. Wait. Argh.
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns hm interesting. I should give you my email
 
Damn stalking.
2
 
11:37 AM
@Kyll Oh, I know what happened :P
@Closey current session
 
@KevinGuan Your current review session started 9 hours, 31 minutes and 39 seconds ago at 2015-12-23 02:05:45 UTC
 
@rene So I'm not supposed to click on random buttons?
 
user3956566
@Kyll there's no answers on it, so it doesn't really matter if it's transformed
 
@Closey Okay now it's 9 hours, I should go to sleep and end the session at 11:59:59 PM UTC.
 
@KevinGuan Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
11:38 AM
@Kyll That is one way to look at it
 
@MsYvette Nope, but it's confusing for search engines and reviewers. It's not too bad, but still meh.
@rene Well reviewing just got a lot less fun =p
 
user3956566
@Kyll well if they're editing it to improve it, even if it does changes, I save bravo :D
 
@MsYvette Meh. In that case OP would also be better off asking a new question and keep his 4 rep.
 
Kevin passed an audit!
 
passed android audit
 
user3956566
11:41 AM
@KevinGuan ttytt I would have to look up the smack libraries. It may be a simple error, or there may not be enough info. At this stage I would leave it. I can go and have a look if you like?
 
@MsYvette Wait me check that question's quality before waste your time :P
@Sam Just found that we have a tag called .
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan no it's ok, I can do it quickly, I'm just reading a meta question
 
@MsYvette Oh, that's fine. :)
Error is the same...don't ask me about it, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan good find it's a dup
 
@MsYvette But is the solution there correct? Seems 1 upvote and 1 downvote, also didn't accpet.
 
user3956566
11:52 AM
@KevinGuan hm, well I have posted the links for the potential dupe. I think it would be ok to vote to close as a dupe, and if it doesn't have the right answer, the OP can ask for it to be reopened and add the info in the Question that makes it different
 
^ Agreed, voted.
 
user3956566
Also with questions like that. I like to try and keep them on the site, as it's hard for developers searching for answers and there's so many new apis being released all the time.. Good to have some posts mapped to these on the site, even one dupe.
 
@MsYvette There's no reason to downvote or delete a question just because it's a dupe. Also we always roomba closed question, but except dupe questions.
 
Sam
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