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3:00 PM
Misread of the day: "one does not simply walk into moderator"
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JAL
@kayess Well, we shouldn't walk into mods. They're people too!
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad did you see the edit reason? the Op had just spammed the site with 6 links to the blog and many were link only posts
 
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
 
@MrsEd Makes no difference. Each post needs to be edited on its own merits.
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver and one rule to bind them
 
user3956566
3:01 PM
@Mogsdad not necessarily, if a user is coming close to an account deletion for spamming the site. It is within a context.
 
@MrsEd Remember, we don't target users. We deal with posts. Flag for spamming, and let the moderators deal with whatever stick they want to wield. But editing out the link for self promotion on that particular post is not supportable. (by that I mean it's outside the mandate of SOCVR)
 
Moving, bye!
 
Sam
Bye!
 
Later
 
user3956566
@Mogsdad sorry don't agree, self promotion is not encouraged in Q and A only on profile.. I'll get you a link
 
user3956566
3:05 PM
bye!
 
Cya!
 
@MrsEd I don't need the link.
 
@MrsEd That is true but if the but if the user has a lot they should stay so the mod can decide if the user needs some sort of punishment or if they just need to be edited.
 
@Mogsdad Is a custom flag in place when every answer a user posts contains a link to his personal site?
 
@Thaillie NO.
FAQ trumps.
 
3:08 PM
@Mogsdad Then what about this meta.stackoverflow.com/a/294124/4099593 ?
> It was deleted because the user has a lot of posts that are just posts that link to their own website. This is one of those.
Soo confusing
 
@BhargavRao The FAQ trumps that.
 
Perhaps if there are 50+ answers, then we can alert.
 
My point is just this: flag spamming - leave that to the mods. But when you edit a post, edit just that post.
 
Or... flag the user for mod attn, and don't do any editing :)
Less is more :)
 
Yep. That's the best.
 
3:11 PM
@LynnCrumbling Flag user for mod attention?
 
user3956566
Avoid overt self-promotion.

The community tends to vote down overt self-promotion and flag it as spam. Post good, relevant answers, and if some (but not all) happen to be about your product or website, that’s okay. However, you must disclose your affiliation in your answers.

If a large percentage of your posts include a mention of your product or website, you're probably here for the wrong reasons. Our advertising rates are quite reasonable; contact our ad sales team for details. We also offer free community promotion ads for open source projects and non-profit organizations. http://stack
 
@Thaillie Yep, just find any of the user's posts, and do a custom flag explaining what you're seeing.
 
@MrsEd But that doesn't say you should edit it out.
 
@MadaraUchiha Much appreciated
 
^^^^ That. (What Nathan said.)
 
3:13 PM
laugh
@Mogsdad Thanks :) We were all wondering which "that" you meant :)
 
Not that I don't appreciate Madara...
 
user3956566
6 posts in less than a hour, I stand by my actions. I flagged the mod, and I seriously think we've discussed it enough, if you have such an issue with it, roll it back. We're all here making an earnest effort to help the site and the user spammed their blog into 6 posts and I removed it from three of them. The other three were deleted.
 
Wait what happened here? Are we talking about the 6 posts I linked to earlier?
 
Ok, well let's settle this. I think a comment with a link to the help center would have been the best call. I can see how editing out the link might prevent the post being deleted if a mod decides it is over the top. So if you're in preserve content camp you'll edit, if you're in the this is all wrong camp you flag. I would have chosen for the comment route and keep an eye on the user.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yes I edited out the links in the three posts that were likely to stay. I thought it was too much. and I gave the reason in the edit reason thingy
 
user3956566
3:19 PM
@rene the user's been here a while and I think got over exuberant, so I commented on one post and then removed the links, as the rest of the answers in those posts were not bad and the user has been here for 3 years, so I'm sure the OP will be mindful (that's my read on it)
 
@MrsEd Please don't take this personally. We're here to discuss how we improve the site. I have rolled back the edit, and done a more complete edit of the post, including spelling mistakes and adding attribution. I've been on the receiving end of feedback as well (had one of my edits simply called "crap" yesterday, in fact). I would have appreciated open feedback instead - such as I have been providing here. No malice intended.
 
We can agree to disagree ...
 
inb4 I disagree
 
Sam
Or die trying.
 
user3956566
the OP actually included the link in 7 answers
 
3:26 PM
I only looked at the recent posts yes.
 
Lol ^
 
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
 
JAL
wtf was that
also added a comment about linking to other so posts as an answer
 
Sam
afk
 
user3956566
@Closey end session
 
3:30 PM
@MrsEd I have forcefully ended your last session. To see more details use the command last session stats. In addition, the number of review items is most likely not set, use the command last session edit count <new count> to fix that.
 
user3956566
@Closey last session stats
 
@MrsEd Your last completed review session ended 13 seconds ago and lasted 11 hours, 26 minutes and 33 seconds. However, the number of reviewed items has not been set. Use the command last session edit count <new count> to set the new value.
 
user3956566
@Sam last time I tried to do this, closey ended up on life support
 
Sam
3:46 PM
@MrsEd lol
 
user3956566
;)
 
user3956566
it's cos I told closey I loved smokey more
 
Sam
Yes, I remember that.
 
4:07 PM
Some spanish-speaking people here? stackoverflow.com/a/34227767/1743880
 
> Good news, the drive has been deleted 'and backups will not work again'.
An email I just sent to IT about IT removing a drive on me
 
Sam
Lol
 
I'm super frusterated right now
 
Oops!
 
the good news is that everything that I needed was moved off, but we can't delete the Filestream group in SQL now
bottom line: don't trust IT with your computer stuff
 
4:10 PM
If it helps gunr, I've just found out I'm going to see Stephen Hawking on 7th Jan!
 
Sam
Makes sense.
 
@DavidG sweet! what for?
 
JAL
rough translation: The solution is:

Settings -> Applications -> Memory Usage

In Memory Usage select the "Google Play Store" option and select delete data. After you that select "Google Services Frameworks", select delete data and restart your phone
should i edit?
 
@Tunaki NAA above that
 
@Tunaki Basically instructions to delete Service Frameworks data. But the question itself seems wildly off topic.
 
4:11 PM
Looks like its "unreproducible" anyway: stackoverflow.com/a/27146751/1743880
 
@gunr2171 He's giving a lecture on black holes at the Royal Institution in London
 
cool
 
Sam
@DavidG Strap a camera to your forehead so we can live stream it.
 
@Sam I'm gonna try get some pics, but I suspect photography of any sort will be banned!
 
Sam
Go incognito!
 
4:14 PM
@Sam subtle
 
Sam
;)
 
@rene @TinyGiant Does the cv request archiver handle post that were not closed but instead deleted?
 
Night
 
Rob
Anyone know why the cv-pls script sometimes doesn't have the checkbox when voting to close (and has the text box empty when manually doing it)? Is it a bug, or am I missing something?
 
@NathanOliver The normal flow of things is that a Q has to be closed before it's deleted...
 
4:23 PM
@Rob it does that when you refresh the post if there was an edit
 
@JonClements The OP self deleted before the Q was closed.
 
Rob
@Tunaki Ah, thanks :)
 
but it's still a bug I guess
 
@NathanOliver ahh yes of course...
 
Rob
Yeah, I might take a look when I get a chance
 
4:25 PM
@NathanOliver I recall that Tiny worked on a bug with regard to deleted questions but I'm not sure if that covers your case.
Do you have a link of a question that didn't get moved?
 
@rene I am gong to try it now. hold on a sec
@rene This one did not get moved
 
Thats a deleted question
 
user4639281
4:47 PM
@NathanOliver It should, but it might miss some.
 
Sam
Hey Tiny
 
user4639281
Hi
 
@TinyGiant Okay.
 
user3956566
hi
 
user3956566
I'm not sure if I made a mistake answering a question.. when it leads to so many questions, I am not a magician
 
4:52 PM
@TinyGiant... Shall we not make that meta post personal?
Sheesh
 
user3956566
another meta post? :)
 
Sam
user image
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My one-box for the day
 
user3956566
yum
 
user4639281
 
user3956566
I think it's easy to lose sight of what we're here for and arguing over such minor differences when you both do such a good job on the site is a shame. I had a disagreement in here earlier and you know what, I think I was right and the other party thinks they're right and it really doesn't matter, as a whole what we're doing here is pulling together as a team and some of these arguments, particularly between highly analytical thinkers can become like splitting hairs
 
user3956566
5:03 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm
 
@MrsEd They're miniature tangents; the RO's do a pretty good job a curtailing them before they become an all-day event :)
"And now for something completely different :)"
 
Sam
:)
 
user3956566
@LynnCrumbling I agree, that's what I'm trying to say, I'm just exceptionally long winded, you really must feel sorry for my children :D
 
HAHAHAHA
No worries.
 
user3956566
5:05 PM
@LynnCrumbling :D
 
I think we may have closed this question about MKMapView incorrectly a while back when cleaning up questions
 
JAL
^ Either way that question is too broad (asking two questions), and is a legal question "Can I put the user position in the map and update it (real-time)"
 
@KevinBrown Why? #1 is about terms of use. #2 isn't a question.
 
that ^
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant can you please trash my comment chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/27479816#27479816 it's redundant with the other stuff in trash also
 
user4639281
5:12 PM
Meh, it's fine IMO.
 
user3956566
oky doky
 
user4639281
@Rob gone
 
@Nathan Wait, Is it 12th Dec already?
 
Rob
Cheers. Though I have to ask, how is it that you're able to delete-hammer questions without being a mod?
 
5:22 PM
@Rob gold tag badge
 
@BhargavRao Welcome To the Future
I fixed it
 
Rob
Isn't that just for dupe hammers?
 
@NisseEngström Good point. It could probably be reworked into a decent question, but the current non-deleted answers are pretty bad as well
 
Rob
Well yeah, but the question was deleted, not closed as duplicate :)
 
@NathanOliver Lol. I was confused as I have a test on 13th :D
 
5:23 PM
Link?
 
user4639281
I didn't.
 
@Rob Also self dupe hammers
 
user4639281
I just reported that it was deleted.
 
Rob
It's the link I posted just above
 
Err. Late reply
 
Rob
5:23 PM
Ah, okay - makes sense
 
Offensive flags
 
user4639281
^^^ That, most likely.
 
Sam
Well that's annoying
They're back again
 
They test if Smokey is alive
 
Yeah?
 
Sam
5:26 PM
Yeah, we've had similar spam before just last year.
 
error happened!
0: The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found.
 
Do you think this question is off-topic?
 
JAL
^ That is not a programming question, if the question is in fact "why is this comment in the php docs downvoted?"
 
no wait, it might have some merit
"why is this line of thinking incorrect"
might be POB, but I don't agree with the current close reasons
 
Sam
Disagree with all teh tings!
 
5:31 PM
lol. I feel it should stay closed
 
@vaultah I've seen similar questions, but they're usually worded in a way that is basically fact-checking the comment/source
 
@JAL I read it like "Downvotes give me impression that this statement is wrong. Is it?"
 
JAL
if you feel that the question can be edited back into shape you're more than welcome to do so
 
What about if you edit out the off-site comment altogether and "own" the position? Then ask if that's a feasible position
 
user4639281
I'd say that the close reason on that question is laughable, but I would close it as POB
 
5:33 PM
@gunr2171 That could work
 
Thank you for your input. FWIW, I noticed it because of the meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312177/…
 
OK, it's time to party boys and girls, have a good weekend all!
 
u 2 DG
 
bye David!
 
Bye
 
Sam
5:34 PM
Cya!
 
Later. Have a good one.
 
@Sam: I hope you finished your popcorn
 
Sam
@Cerbrus Nah, I saved some for you guys.
For when you finish. ;)
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus Least amount of drama ever for a meta dispute.
 
@TinyGiant I... Can't say I've seen less, indeed... o.O
So, yay? :P
 
user4639281
5:38 PM
\o/
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/ \
 
JAL
LOL
almost
 
Lol
 
Sam
Lol
 
Text art fail
 
Sam
5:39 PM
Got there in the end
 
JAL
is stickman the "noobs can't triforce" of the SOCVR?
 
user4639281
Total ascii fail.
 
@TinyGiant You've tried asciiflow.com any time?
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Sam
@BhargavRao Insta-bookmarked.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Looks like a cool waste of time. :)
 
5:43 PM
Lol :D
 
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@vaultah - I edited the question and voted for reopening. If I saw a (set of) programming facts I believed to be true, downvoted to oblivion by some community, I would question my premises and look for my error. After verifying each of the points as this user did, I'd seek help. I don't see why SO can't be that place to seek help. He just worded things terribly. Maybe there's a bigger perspective I'm missing though.
 
I want to get started with calligraphy. Does anyone have any tips on how to get started?
 
user4639281
@Drew use a pen
 
@Drew Use asciiflow.com Use pen itself.
 
user4639281
5:48 PM
@BhargavRao I believe that was a reference to a comment on meta.
 
@Drew use a real pen and ink. dont get a fountain pen with calligraphy nibs, those things are pretty sketchy
 
user4639281
@AndrewCheong Looks very much better to me, voted to reopen and upvoted.
 
user4639281
Needs one more
 
@TinyGiant - Thanks, and I forgot to edit the title but looks like someone jumped on board.
 
user4639281
Saw that.
 
@Drew calligraphy and I do not get along. Being left handed turns it into a giant smudge.
 
> fresh walk in
 
user4639281
Now reopened.
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Broken link in the answer.
 
That was an inspirational swing from -11.
 
5:52 PM
@Sam The formatting is screwed. Else it is correct
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Yeah, ik
But yeah
Smells spamy
 
user4639281
It's a link to a job site.
 
Spam?
 
Sam
Unreg'd user
@BhargavRao I flagged as such
 
user4639281
5:53 PM
But... it does say that it is his site
 
Too late. Deleted
 
But it is also 100% percent of his post advertising that.
 
user4639281
But yeah, it's only there to link to the service, provides no other information.
 
Sam
> Full disclosure, this is my site: http://kjhgdkjghdksj.sdfgjhsd
BUY NOW, FREE WORKING FLOATING-POINT NUMBERS FOR ANY LANGUAGE!!!!
 
user4639281
Lulz
 
Sam
5:55 PM
You get the point though? ;)
 
JAL
@Sam sounds like how VeriSign makes money, lol
 
user4639281
@Sam Yeah, I get the idea.
 
@Sam Do you have reasonable rates?
 
a free-mium model. Payment occurs thru nefarious xss
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Of course, but you'll need to contact our sales team, in fact let me connect you to the head of sales, The Nigerian Prince we call him.
 
6:00 PM
@Sam I have to give him my back account information so he can "verify" I have the funds right?
 
Hi! I'm Troy McClure. You may know me from such shows as "Coders" and "Coders 2". I used to write programs containing only integers. Those were dark days, friends. But then I heard of kjhgdkjghdksj.sdfgjhsd, and it changed my life! Since then, I've become a floating-point pro, whether it's in Cobol, Pascal or Prolog. Don't just sit there, CALL NOW!
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Sam
Lol
 
user4639281
 
JAL
@Mogsdad needs more haskell
 
Darn, too late to edit.
 
6:12 PM
Possible spam: 1 2
Possible spam again: 1 2
 
@Tunaki on-topic blog posts, so NAA.
Also dup answers.
If you're into flagging those.
 
Well I'm out of flags so... :)
 
Delv them
 
@Tunaki Same.
 
@BhargavRao out of delete votes also
 
6:16 PM
I got lots of flags... 96 left today. Who wants em?
 
Basically, I'm out of everything moderation-related
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad I've got 96 too! Can we start a club?
 
Sam
More possible ham: 1 2
 
@TinyGiant With jackets!
 
user4639281
ofc
 
Sam
6:17 PM
@Mogsdad And snacks!
 
Looks like ham to me. Flagged
 
@Sam report
 
@Sam I've been ham-rolled!
 
user4639281
@AndrewCheong -4 now, what a turn around.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver I tried flagging too! But the mod didn't agree.
 
6:18 PM
@TinyGiant - Hah
 
No vegans here? :(
 
Sam
looks around
 
user4639281
crickets
 
I don't think I could ever give up meat.
 
6:19 PM
Crickets are vegans.
What you mean, you no eat meat? I know - I make a lamb!
 
user4639281
I don't eat if there isn't meat in my meal.
 
if there isn't meal in my meat*
hmm
 
even my salads have meat in them
 
user4639281
^^ True dat
 
Sam
Self removed.
 
user4639281
6:27 PM
derp.
 
@BhargavRao - I was for about 6 months.
Got too expensive, and I hate cooking.
 
Sam
Waffles.
 
@AndrewCheong I am for 21 years. :D
 
user4639281
@Sam I see what you did there.
 
@Sam Waffles don't have meat, do they?
 
6:28 PM
I know a lot of Indian food is already vegetarian, right? What extra do they remove to make it vegan? Because I don't think cheese or egg is used in Indian vegetarian dishes anyway?
 
Sam
@Tunaki Erm, no?
@TinyGiant xD
 
@AndrewCheong Butter and Cheese is present. That's it.
Also there's not much vegan/vegetarian difference here
 
@BhargavRao - Ah, butter makes sense. I didn't know about cheese.
@BhargavRao - Yeah, in the states, it's tough to be vegan if you don't cook.
@BhargavRao - Unless you're near a vegan-friendly city like many cities in California, Chicago, New York, then it's easy.
 
@Andrew You're a math student rite? Do you know Srinivasan Ramanujam?
He died because he did not get veg food.
 
@BhargavRao I know he's a very good Indian mathematician
 
6:32 PM
@BhargavRao - Haha, of course. Yes, I read many articles and a book about him.
 
that derived a lot of incredible equations
 
@BhargavRao - I think he also refused Western medicine and care, however.
 
It was in WW2 I guess WW1
 
@Tunaki - Yes, that man should not even be considered a "mathematician." He saw everything in a totally different way, incomparable to the way we've been taught—instead of numbers on a number line it's as if he saw entire colors and structures for every entity. In my studies sometimes I saw a glimpse of what he derived and my mind was almost blown, except I couldn't fully understand.
Sorry, ::fans self:: I need to calm down.
 
I mean, he proved identities involving pi and others that are simply amazingly complex
something noone would have never imagined
 
6:35 PM
Giorgio Tsoukalos once did a documentary about him :P
 
Ahaha
Aliens.
 
^ Yeah
 
In this case I believe Giorgio.
 
5k reputation, and you call this an edit...?
 
6:37 PM
Great men die young - Old saying that came true :'(
 
@NisseEngström - Eh, at least it doesn't go through the queue and waste anyone's time. ...Does it?
 
@NisseEngström Please refrain from calling out users that "should know better"
 
@AndrewCheong It goes to the reopen queue.
I edited it coz it was in the review queue anyway.
 
@NathanOliver Ok, sorry. You can delete that if you like.
 
Not needed. Just something to remember.
 
6:40 PM
@NisseEngström - Ah, I just saw what you meant, nvm.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Just found it, completed as leave closed.
 
Is it safe to say that a deleted comment on its own gets a little more exposure than silently getting buried in a transcript? Meaning, a solo comment sitting in a trash bin is visible to others scouring the public trash bin, if you know what I mean
 
Are you Oscar the Grouch?
 
@TinyGiant Do you have some tool or userscript that searches the review queue for a post? (or did you by chance catch that ques?)
 
JAL
Getting let out early woo
anyone up for TF2?
 
6:43 PM
is who Oscar the Grouch
 
JAL
Have a good weekend all!
 
ninja'd
 
I know who Oscar is
 
6:44 PM
@JAL yes, later though
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Just went to the reopen queue, it was the first up.
 
I am just wondering who you are talking to
 
user4639281
But rene has a userscript for finding posts in the queue.
 
@Drew this comment is what I'm talking about
 
I am clueless, no reference
 
6:45 PM
@TinyGiant rene is the Stack API specialist :P He should get hired by them.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao it doesn't use the API, it scans the queue history.
 
@Drew nevermind
 
user4639281
You have to be 10k to use it, as such I couldn't write it.
 
Ah then I'll hafta ask him when he is around.
 
rene is always around
watching for one-boxes
 
6:47 PM
but what if he's a square?
 
atriangle
 
</back to work>
 
user4639281
@Drew There's so much trash in the trash can, no one is going to notice usually.
 
disputed flag after 350 helpful flags :/ day's not ending well.
 
I would dispute the dispution ;)
 
user4639281
6:52 PM
@BhargavRao disputed just means that someone in a queue didn't agree with you.
 
user4639281
I have two disputed spam flags.... on deleted spam.
 
Yep. Same case.
 
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@NathanOliver Body - Position 796-803: fucking
 
user4639281
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
 
6:58 PM
> You have reached the maximum of 13 deletion votes per day; come back in 5 hours
Now @KevinBrown will give stats? :P
 
user4639281
> Damn daily vote limit reached; wait again for 5 hours.
 

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