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5:00 PM
Damn
Limewire.com isn't even up anymore lol
 
@mate64 when I was a kid I went from 14.4k modem to a private T1
that was the SHIT
 
user365265
 
I remember when Runescape used to ask what connection you were using
 
user365265
sorry bro
 
And you were the shit if you were on T1
 
user365265
5:01 PM
lucker
 
Unfortunately my parents got as far as early broadband and haven't updated since lol
 
I worked for a T1 provider maintaining their website
they payed me with a T1
 
So I moved out and now I have 150mbit line gg
Nice lol
 
then the dish got hit by lightning and they didn't replace it
so I stopped working for them
but it was the best year of internet of my life (at the time) .
 
Yup
HAha
 
user365265
5:02 PM
i want that google fiber, even if it is a botnet
 
I have never heard reports of google fiber itself being a botnet.
people running botnets over fiber is another story, and you can easily work around it
 
@rlemon eMule did, actually. then kazaa followed shortly and took over top position
 
@StephanMuller ahh, good to know
never even heard of eMule
 
man, I remember the first day I went from 56k6 to cable connection
 
> Kazaa: like napster, but also for porn!
pretty much all I needed to know as a teen
 
5:06 PM
I couldn't believe my eyes, downloading entire movies in the span of only a few hours
whereas the week before I'd spent 25 minutes downloading Bomfunk MC's Freestyler mp3
 
the best memory I have is when we were ripping Titanic before it came to theaters in North America. we had to go out and buy a second HDD because our single 4gb drive wouldn't hold it (compression back then sucked)
 
ahaha
 
user365265
kazaa Bundled malware:
> Cydoor (spyware)
> B3D (adware)
> Altnet (adware)
> The Best Offers (adware)
> InstaFinder (hijacker)
> TopSearch (adware)
> RX Toolbar (spyware)
> New.net (hijacker)
 
man, imagine how amazing and limitless some of that stuff felt back then, and then imagine going back to that time with your current knowledge of tech
 
user365265
Kazaa Media Desktop (once stylized as "KaZaA", but now usually written "Kazaa") started as a peer-to-peer file sharing application using the FastTrack protocol licensed by Joltid Ltd. and operated as Kazaa by Sharman Networks. Kazaa was subsequently under license as a legal music subscription service by Atrinsic, Inc. As of August 2012, the Kazaa website is no longer active. Kazaa Media Desktop was commonly used to exchange MP3 music files and other file types, such as videos, applications, and documents over the Internet. The Kazaa Media Desktop client could be downloaded free of charge; however...
 
5:09 PM
@mate64 yeah, they sold out big time
 
user365265
$$$$$
 
I switched to Grokster pretty soon after they introduced the more invasive type of ads/malware
although I think Grokster (and Morpheus?) were just slightly altered skins over an older version of kazaa
 
user365265
bockwurst
 
user365265
> In November 2004, BitTorrent was responsible for 35% of all Internet traffic
 
5:11 PM
Just great! Twice today!
 
now netflix is driving the internet
@OliverSalzburg workin from home?
 
user365265
@OliverSalzburg windows
 
@rlemon Sure
@mate64 Nope, npm
 
@OliverSalzburg stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
5:12 PM
grab a beer
resume
 
user365265
@OliverSalzburg npm.exe
 
that isn't windows fault
 
user365265
windows is a virus
 
Now where was that bash script to install npm...
 
npm is a terrible package manager
 
user365265
5:13 PM
os x is a botnet
 
<the OS I do not use> is a <insert derogatory baseless statement>
;)
 
curl -L npmjs.com/install.sh | sh
There we go!
 
user365265
@rlemon every os without an open kernel is suspicious to me, especially osx
 
@rlemon I need to finish some stuff for our new website before leaving for a festival on Wednesday
There will be plenty of beers then ;D
 
festival??
 
user365265
5:17 PM
iThing systems are malware: macOS snoops and shackles; iOS snoops, shackles, censors apps and has a backdoor.
 
you're from Germany right?
I don't like ios, or any mac os. I don't like Apple as a company. but those are my opinions. I wouldn't discredit a developer based on their choice of OS... that is just a self-limiting arrogant attitude to hold (in my opinion).
 
user365265
i never pay for anything on the web. anything on the net that requires payment, i don't do
 
user365265
even in this chat, i am sitting behind tor
 
@rlemon Yeah, but it's in the Czech Republic
 
I pay for everything I use, I don't block ads, and I support lone developers with donations if there is no ads or paywalls.
why: because I'm a developer and I want to get paid. so why would I deny someone else that same thing?
 
user365265
5:21 PM
HIGH CONTRAST
 
user365265
sounds good man
 
@rlemon A friend of mine once said "It's bad enough that I'm not rich, I don't have to make some other motherfucker rich". I found that pretty convincing, but I don't share the sentiment :D
 
@OliverSalzburg "I want to make money on the internet, but I am going to do everything I can to deny other people the same benefits"
 
I'm not going to argue his position, I actually share yours
 
5:22 PM
"I am enjoying this free content, but I refuse to let them display a small ad in the corner to keep it free! FUCK YOU IM ENTITLED!"
^ this is how I hear the argument internally
if a site has offensive ads (popup, play sounds, etc) I just don't go back to the site
ooo @OliverSalzburg how did I not think to ask you
 
I have a corrupt ntfs image I need to recover files from
the drive the image is from does mount
but it is crazy old / slow
so I dd'd it, now I cannot mount the img
 
What does it say when you try to mount?
 
that is a terrible attitude
@OliverSalzburg
Error mounting /dev/loop0p1 at /media/rlemon/AE5C3DEA5C3DADC9: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/loop0p1" "/media/rlemon/AE5C3DEA5C3DADC9"' exited with non-zero exit status 12: Failed to read last sector (78124031): Invalid argument
HINTS: Either the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet,
   or it was not setup correctly (e.g. by not using mdadm --build ...),
   or a wrong device is tried to be mounted,
   or the partition table is corrupt (partition is smaller than NTFS),
I got the image from sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=~/drive.img bs=4M
 
I think that happens when the block size did not match that of the source drive. As the error says, that can cause the last sector to be missing
But I might be remembering the wrong thing
 
5:28 PM
any way to say "screw you just show me what you have" ??
90% of the drive is garbage, but there is a few directories I want to recover
 
Humm, I think, when I ran into that, I just reread the drive with smaller block size until I got it right
It's very likely that important bits are stored at the end of the volume
 
so I have to re-image the drive?
because I'm pretty sure it is slowly failing the more I use it
 
I'm not sure. There might be ways, but I'm not aware of them
 
(15 year old+ laptop drive)
 
It's also possible that you can use recovery tools on the raw image, but I haven't done that either
You might want to just post a question on Super User
 
5:32 PM
the drive is in the freezer right now
going to try to pull the files off of it and not image it when I get home
if that fails then I'll post a question
 
@rlemon Send me a link when you do :)
 
will do
 
@CarrieKendall gotta be honest!
@rlemon hard drives are only specced to last ~10 years
 
@TylerH thanks tips :P
 
so definitely try to replace them once they reach that age :-P
 
5:49 PM
I found my old (first) laptop
 
50 mins ago, by Sippy
I was alive for Napster
Gods, is that how we are determining age now? D-:
 
> were you born before the internet?
 
internet no, www yes
 
when were you born>?
 
July 1990
okay, the proposal came in 1989 but they didn't implement it until 1991
 
5:52 PM
most people I know didn't get internet access till ~'95
it wasn't available in my area until 97
:/
 
We had it around 94 or 95
at least
 
as soon as Bell offered it to us we got it
 
as early as I can remember we had it
dialup via EarthLink
then DSL for a long time
 
I remember the day we got online :D
such an amazing day
 
I remember neopets
cc @BoltClock
I didn't much use the web until the late, late 90s though
 
5:54 PM
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/07/27/totally-overwhelmed/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
Totally overwhelmed
CommitStrip
1438019480
 
until I was 8 or so
@Feeds yeah, like that wouldn't get you fired...
 
6:09 PM
@rlemon $depression++
evening all
 
I wish it were evening
 
ok I ran out of things to try for my issue :/
btw since when are there so many ppl in this room?
 
past couple weeks. I think we reached a critical mass of sorts
people are active enough these days that more people join in similar to a larger room like the JS one
Over half of the room right now are regulars
 
6:24 PM
Is it "used with permission from" or "used with permission by"?
Some of you natives, please help :D
 
from (I think)
 
Ah, awesome, thanks a lot :)
 
i would say 'from' as well
 
Okay, that's where I'm currently at
 
Apparently it's supposed to be determined by whoever gives you permission
"with permission of" might be better
 
6:27 PM
I'm currently working on our new product landing page, in case anyone wants to provide some criticism: putr.de/~oliver/www
 
The transition on the nav is slow if you ask me. All of the animations, actually. And the one on the footer is not needed :P
do you want a more full review?
 
@ZachSaucier Whatever you're willing to give me :)
Do you mean the animation duration is too long or are you talking about a performance issue?
 
duration too long
.3s is max length for that type of stuff
 
Cool, I'll fix that. Thanks
 
6:31 PM
@ZachSaucier Just a placeholder where content is supposed to go
 
Hello Everybody. I am trying to use Bootstrap to reproduce my sliced design but the problem is that due to somme spacer.gif my design goes larger than how it is supposed to be. This is a screenshoot of what I get
 
most of the font sizes are too small, line-spacing could be a little better to make it more readable (I'm viewing everything on a large monitor currently)
The content of this image putr.de/~oliver/www/img/imac.png is too small, make it fill the monitor
The "What FairManager can do for you" section is a little wordy
 
Instead of getting something like this
 
The available plans section should emphasize whichever one you want people to get (I'd recommend one of the middle two or perhaps both). I can give more hints on how to do so if wanted
 
Added screenshots of error message and my BIOS settings
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Q: Windows installation: Couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing one

Praxis AshelinI was trying to get a clean Windows installation on my hard drive, but am running into some issues. I get to the part where I need to select which hard drive I want to install Windows on. I have 2 harddrives, but both give this error: We couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing ...

 
6:34 PM
 
The images on mobile could be smaller. I think they take up a little too much room currently, but that's up to you ultimately
 
$5
he will convert psd to html
 
@ZachSaucier Do you think it would be better if I shortened the text and added "read more" links to reveal more content?
 
My original code was inside tables but I am trying to bring all to bootstrap by replacing the table code with bootstrap code
 
@ZachSaucier Will do, I actually had that before, but fucked up the PSD
 
6:35 PM
The plans are likely too far down the page for mobile as well (might consider this on desktop as well), might consider lessening the amount of sections. Know what's important, only show that
The social buttons look awkward on small screens
Overall pretty good page, just needs some little improvements
@OliverSalzburg It depends on what's important. I'm not giving the product thought right now, just the design
 
Thanks a lot! I'll try to work your suggestions into the page
 
> Know what's important, only show that
 
@rlemon that is awesome. I wish i had seen this earlier . Only that my dead line is tomorrow 8 am so i have to do it tonight and on the website they said 1 day
 
good luck with that deadline :/
 
@rlemon i may use it for my next project but as at now i have to find a solution
lol
 
6:39 PM
@ZachSaucier one of the benefits of mobile-first design IMO
 
for sure
 
The thing about the plans is, people will never be able to order anything from the website, they'll always have to get in touch with us. Our clients are usually not from an environment where you pay for a service via CC. It's always POs with invoices later on. So the plans are more of an orientation kind of thing
Does that change anything regarding the recommendation?
OTOH we want people to get a free account to get them hooked ;D
 
@rlemon dahell, why would anyone do it that cheap?
 
@PraxisAshelin because some people can crank out 5 at a time
 
I guess that answers my question :P
 
6:44 PM
@rlemon No one wants to know about that mate.
 
ohai @PraxisAshelin
didn't see you there
how's the debauchery?
 
yo
the whatnow
 
!!define debauchery
 
@rlemon debauchery Indulgence in sensual pleasures; scandalous activities involving sex, alcohol, or drugs without inhibition.
 
ah excellent
 
6:49 PM
i always learn great things here
not necessarily related to css
 
several?!
that averages to more than one a day
 
always with the same girl tho
indeed
 
.... ?
OI
 
it's a joke. keep your panties on
 
6:50 PM
bro I'll rekt u
fite me 1v1
 
are you sure? not 2v1?
 
ahaahhahaahhaa
 
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
 
lol
well I'm glad you are enjoying life.
 
6:51 PM
yup
 
#nosarcasm
 
@mikedidthis yes i fixed duke (got notification just now)
 
@PraxisAshelin just remember, if you record it it no longer is a lifestyle and then becomes a career
win/win
 
ah i forgot
 
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Q: Allowing an image to extend outside column

user3692125I am trying to accomplish something in Bootstrap 3. I have two columns (unequal width) and I am trying to make image on right-side column and image on left-side column go all the way through (to the right edge of the viewport and the left edge of viewport respectively). How to accomplish this? h...

 
6:52 PM
someone hacked my steam account
 
@rlemon I'm pretty sure I'd be good at that
anyway
I also got myself a gaming rig so I can play all my games at le smooth 60 FPS
 
hey guys
do you know a font name similar to this gyazo.com/d5314b810dd159368e1966fa155c9402.png
 
but now I'm having trouble with reinstalling Windows :(
@BenBeri I do, gimme a min to find it
 
@PraxisAshelin I had a friend in another lifetime who was doing that to fund school. She only did girl on girl or with her BF
 
@user3692125 your question is only an hour old
 
6:53 PM
made some good money
I don't think her parents ever found out. -_- I should ask
@PraxisAshelin nice. i need a new CPU
my i5 doesn't cut the mustard
@BenBeri myfonts.com/WhatTheFont try this?
 
I still have a phenom II from 2009 or so. Works good enough for me.
 
@BenBeri Alegreya SC is one
 
thanks
 
@BenBeri Trajan Pro
looks like the one from your screen
 
7:00 PM
@PraxisAshelin I need to move to wherever you live
 
@PraxisAshelin wewt thanks man!
 
*dudette
 
bro*
 
@rlemon Thank you anyway. You have been of great help to me today though my problem have not been solve, at least i am now clearly aware of my deficiencies
 
7:12 PM
that's what the lemon does
> though my problem have not been solve, at least i am now clearly aware of my deficiencies
 
> You're wrong and you should feel bad
 
@ManOfGod jk, we still love you
just not your code
 
Is there a way with css to make a break after a specific word or index in a paragraph in a span?
e.g after 20 characters, or after the word 'new.'
 
@BenBeri you can't be that specific with CSS but there are word-break and word-wrap properties
that tell you roughly when and how to break up lines of text
you can do it with JavaScript though
 
7:44 PM
Hey guys, this is an ul that holds 2 li elements and each li element has an image with the same size. I resized these images by doing li img { width: 80%; height: auto;}
why does it look like theres a padding to the left and right ? gyazo.com/f2c60fbe88d9bfeaaaa2fe4f9a1698b7
red = ul blue = li
because it takes like 80% of the 100% of li?
 
by padding u mean the red?
or the blue next to the img?
 
@BenBeri the parent element has margins
limiting its width to 100% - 40px
 
it doesnt have paddint though i did padding to 0
 
I said margins, not padding
@BenBeri Open up developer tools (F12) and find the div#gyazo
uncheck the margin-right and margin-left properties to see
also, why are you using margin for the top, but padding for the bottom? :-P
pick one, silly
 
i didnt do padding for bottom?
 
7:53 PM
we must be looking at different sites then
 
@TylerH gyazo is an image hosting site
he just uploaded his screenshot there
 
oh well wtf
how am I supposed to tell coding problems from an image
also who doesn't use imgur
 
@TylerH what? you need the markup/css to be able to debug? :p
 
Also guys i have a question for you, lets say I have a section#header and inside header i have #logo, section#header has a background, and when i do #logo margin-top 10%
it moves the whole thing with the background down
why ? only the logo should move inside the #header
 
well that is an easy one
 
7:57 PM
@BenBeri you should make a JSFiddle of your problem(s) or else people won't be able to help you
 
@BenBeri sounds like margin collapse
 
except rlemon who will just make you aware of deficiencies
 
you need to add -webkit-fucking-unicorn-magic: because-we-are-mind-readers;
2
 
JSG
I have an overlay box with position fixed - Now the overlay doesnt move but it does have overflow:auto (causing it to have scrollbars). I want one element within that overlay to be fixed within that container. What would be the best way of going about this?
 
@JSG make the container position: relative;
children will position relative to said container
 
7:59 PM
@JSG alternately, flexbox (though i only recommend it if you have elements where you cant predict the height)
 
JSG
@rlemon from fixed to relative?
 
how the hell did you pull that off
chat shouldn't let you repeat
 
JSG
something about a timeout lol
 
@rlemon -webkit-fucking-unicorn-magic :p
 

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