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1:00 PM
@rlemon thank you for mentioning web sockets 29 messages ago
I didnt even know about this.
 
yea they are pretty neat
 
Just did some researching
 
I use em all the time
 
But, since your messages are being loaded in my network as shown in the developer tools
Why are mine being shown every time i send?
 
@user3783598 Except the color choice and content and horizontal scroll (probably because of static width, don't care to inspect) it's better
 
1:01 PM
the chat (afaik) uses long polling as a fallback if websockets fail
Caprica uses websockets
my chat monitor sniffs the websockets.
 
Ohhhh
 
OUCH
 
ouch
 
@user3783598 well, did you want honesty or a free stroke?
 
Sweet, so basically I can make online canvas games using sockets
 
1:02 PM
OMFG
 
@Matthcw you can, but it doesn't offer any more inherent security
 
I SOLVED IT!
 
so you will still have to manage that
 
and I wouldnt use ajax then. VERY interesting... definitely have to look into this later
 
@AdanRamirez \o/
 
1:02 PM
T_T how the hell did i fix it? wow im so shocked
okay so rlemon u were right, the issue was in the canvas image call
 
@Matthcw those are your two viable options, really
 
Well if that's what you think..then i'll accept it
 
I'd hate to see the game that relied on page refreshes
 
so what i did
was scrap the whole thing and start new
i used canvas code that renders images (png) very well, then i put slideshow code
 
"After you've moved pong paddle, press F5 to refresh the page"
 
1:03 PM
@rlemon you mentioned security, how would a hacker manage to "hack" the connection perse' and what COULD they do ?
 
@Matthcw check out socket.io or primus.io
 
and somehow it works! now i need a fade effect and some buttons and MAGIC!
 
and node.js?
 
@Matthcw if it is on the client, I can control it.
 
@rlemon thx for the help
 
1:04 PM
@Matthcw You could write a javascript that would send any data you want to the server
 
meaning I can send bogus scores, movements, etc.
 
Ahh, so like php it's better to keep it on the server side
I love how this stuff is all related
 
I wouldn't use php :P
 
If you were implenting a pong game and the client slows the paddle, you could change the script to jump the paddle where you want it to be
 
use node :D
 
1:05 PM
Yeah but any server side scripting language
and Node seems interesting, is it complex?
 
Because I know javascript so...
 
@Matthcw module system can take a day or so to grasp. also throwing your hands up in the air and embracing that you'll HAVE to use libraries (and a lot of them) to get anything real done,.
 
haha, when you put it like that, it sounds like quite a steep hill
compared to learning old school PHP
:D
 
1:07 PM
!!hi
 
@user3783598 Hello
 
!!user, is your aim to be a professional front end web developer?
 
@Matthcw I'm not so sure anymore. It can go either way
 
@Matthcw nahh. php has all of the voodoo built in
which is why it is bloated and there is a fuck tonne of apis that still exist that we 'shouldn't use'
 
@rlemon by voodoo, do you mean security vulnerabilities and bugs and inconsistent behavior? :p
 
1:10 PM
@cimmanon ;)
 
@rlemon you have now made me remember that I don't know sht yet lol
and I have been doing this for almost 2 years now
Im a beginner :)
I was wondering, do you feel the same way?
or do you feel you know a lot
 
I feel you don't know anything
 
hey guys
 
i've been asked to add "annotations" (like colored circles, arrows and random texts) to an existing video. to be more specific it's a 3d presentation of new apartments, so for example there's the camera that enters the kitchen and a circle around the sink must appear, with the text "class A+ garbage disposal unit" or something. how would you do that? i don't have premiere anymore and i can't afford it :P also the circles, arrows etc, must move with the scene
 
For a php site using one header file for the entire site would changing the metadata dynamically based on the page improve its SEO?
 
1:14 PM
maybe @PraxisAshelin knows the answer?
 
instead of having a single metadata on all pages
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson after effects
and arrrrrr
 
Ronald, why not after effect it
 
@Matthcw the more I learn the less I know
 
I know a guy named black beard you could speak to
 
1:15 PM
same @Kitler i can't afford premiere nor after effects :P
 
cpt. black beard that is
 
36 secs ago, by Kitler
and arrrrrr
 
lol
 
you mean whitebeard..lol
 
you could always get it done in the 30 day trial
 
1:16 PM
Lol "I know JavaScript so Node should be easy right?"
RIP
 
although maybe with the creative cloud i can buy it for 1 month
@Kitler the fuck is that
you mean ahrrr
ahhhhhhhh
you forgot the h
 
bullshit, it's ahr
 
pretty sure it's ar
 
"Cars and ships have steering wheels, and I can drive a car, so a ship should be easy right?"
 
1:18 PM
I know HTML which is a programming language, so C++ should be easy
?
 
As you'r supposed to be a nazi cat, "ach" would be even better.
Actually
 
@Matthcw HTML is a markup language.
Not a programming language.
 
I know i know lol
Just reciting something a noob programmer would think
Sippy since you seem to have good critique, what do you think of my website matthcw.com
 
!!youtube forget you
 
1:20 PM
Someone in here was talking about an interview they did where the interviewee said something along the lines of "CSS is my favorite programming language" recently.
 
That's even worse
 
Too much stuff.
 
@Sippy i think that was the coding love
 
But @user3783598 see that? a clean URL
 
@cimmanon Ah might have been
 
1:20 PM
and i am pretty sure it was something an intern said :p
 
Sippy, so I should remove some items then
 
Are you using isotope for that?
 
wat?
 
1:22 PM
No, for my website I coded it from scratch
 
@Matthcw Whole website in canvas has been done for perf reasons before, but it's mixed opinions/results
 
I definitely should spend less time on this.
 
Computer Programming To Be Officially Renamed "Googling Stackoverflow" - http://buff.ly/1Lp6XEd http://t.co/SYOwTTNR5c
 
@RedBreast That one :D
@Matthcw How old are you?
 
18 Years old
 
1:23 PM
When you say "I've been doing this for 2 years" you mean as a hobbyist right?
:P
 
Yeah haha
 
Main problems with your site: too much information in your face straight away and I have no idea how to move from item to item or how to get to important information
Do the boxes lead to articles or what
 
Yeah someone said that, I guess I should fix it up
 
I clicked one and it filtered and I don't get why.
 
which site are we talking about?
 
1:24 PM
matthcw.com - my site
 
looks like a website for games
 
They are meant to be links to the pages
 
> You tried to access the address matthcw.com, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
 
ddos
4 people accessing it at once :P
@Matthcw where is the site hosted?
 
It SHOULD work, it's been hosted by namecheap
and goes through cloudFlare as a DNS
 
1:25 PM
@Matthcw I open your site and think TLDR
 
^
 
!!define TLDR
 
@user3783598 TLDR (Internet) too long; didn't read. Used to indicate that one didn't read the whole text.
 
Ok, I definately got's to fix that then
 
You have no design :P
 
1:25 PM
One major gripe I have is "Jack of all trades, master of one."
What are you a master of
 
hahaha FIRST person to ask me that
 
I open your site and think about my gas chambers
 
right now I am the master of learning
 
@Matthcw its configured wrong or something. i cant view it at all in opera.
 
@Matthcw lol
 
1:26 PM
No one is a master of learning lol
 
Jack of all trades, master of learning
 
master of ba...
 
What degree have you applied for btw~?
 
Sippy, are you saying you havent mastered learning?
Computer Science
 
You definitely haven't, matthew. No one has
 
1:27 PM
I was considering going for masters so i can say I am master of computer science
 
You got a career in mind?
No point
Waste of time and money
 
^^ unless you go into teaching
 
Agree there, but when you're forced to
Not forced to but
 
Forced to by who?
For what?
 
You know, how everyone is told "You better go to college/university and get a good education"
 
1:28 PM
heck, you don't even need a degree for most things in programming
 
@Matthcw jokes aside you're doing good
 
Important point number 1: university isn't gonna teach you anything near what you need to know to get by in the real world.
So have fun while you're there.
 
Thanks @Kitler
 
@ZachSaucier you do if you want to get your resume past HR :p
 
@Matthcw but you need to learn to wrap your js :P
 
1:28 PM
@Matthcw You don't need a masters.
 
@cimmanon depends 100% on the company
 
Kiter what do you mean?
Kitler*
 
@Kitler
 
is it certification that matters?
 
@Matthcw you know how everyone is you better jump of that bridge...
 
1:29 PM
@Sippy I just want to go to network, and get more exposure
 
@Sippy -.-
 
@Kitler now now dumbledore
 
best masters you can do is code code code - and think about the code while you code
 
@Matthcw (what?)
 
I write code to write code for my code.
 
1:30 PM
@Kitler beautifully executed
 
What job do you want long term, @Matthcw?
 
@Sippy collage/University is good to network, build your exposure and learn from others
also make friends
 
@ZachSaucier I don't want a job, I am very ambitions I want to be a creator and create
 
1:31 PM
@Neil \m/
 
@GNi33 I take pride in my work :D
 
@Matthcw no, exposure and networking is better done at meetups, open source projects, and community building sites like this one
 
Games, Apps, websites, Animations
 
@Matthcw create what? You need money
 
1:31 PM
start contributing a lot on GitHub
that will get you exposure
 
My main aim is game development though
however I love web development, software and app development
 
@Matthcw only of your mama pays you
 
from an artistic perspective
 
At least you have your head on straight and took Compsci over Games Dev
 
No, for money I will have to be an entrepreneur make money online
 
1:32 PM
People who do Games Dev degrees work in McDonalds :)
 
@Matthcw then dive into C and Unreal Engine
 
@Sippy exactly
game dev industry is the worst
 
@ZachSaucier isn't UE mostly c++
 
^
 
Whats wrong with the games industry
 
1:33 PM
probably
 
@Matthcw want a code review on that js?
 
@Matthcw it's make or break a lot of the time
 
How about the rap industry, thats corrupt
 
@Kitler He doesn't deserve it yet :P
 
@Kitler definately!
 
1:33 PM
@Matthcw spend three years working hard on something you think is amazing. get overshadowed and eventually buried by some kids making flappy bird in his basement in a weekend.
 
@ZachSaucier I must, can't stand crappy js, reminds me of my past self :P
 
hahaha deep
 
@Matthcw 1% chance of your game making it - even if it makes it you will barelly cover the costs of producing it and even after you will get the money and cover it all you will run short in a year or two and fail on the next game development
 
@Kitler What about your current self? :///////
 
1:34 PM
@easwee 1%? that is high
 
All critique, no matter how brutal is helpful Kitler
 
@rlemon yeah - I was optimistic
0.01%
 
still high.
 
@Sippy get on my level scrub :O
 
:)
 
1:34 PM
everyone and their dog now wants to be a game dev
 
No way, everyone wants to be an app developer
 
it is an over crowded industry of crappy developers
 
The mainstream hear apps = millions
hear*
 
The only people who make money out of game development are the people who own the companies anyway
 
twitter #indieDev
:P
 
1:35 PM
I hate indie devs.
I really really hate them :/
I don't even know why.
 
@Sippy indeed I want to eventually own my own studio
but I will have to start off indie
@Sippy how about notch?
 
Why can't you start off with a career?
 
life isn't as easy as GameDev Tycoon
 
Lol
 
@Matthcw well don't wanna crash your dreams - go for it :P
 
1:36 PM
you can point out 1 guy who made it, but you ignore the 1 million who crashed and burned.
 
@rlemon is that by the same people who made Rollercoaster Tycoon?
 
No I really enjoy different perspectives easewee
 
@cimmanon nope
 
@Matthcw I just tell what I see from IRL exp
 
Guys when I make it, I want you to remember my username
I will be proof
 
1:37 PM
@Matthcw You have a lot to learn and grow in
 
end of the day the best advice to success is to just make everything. every fucking idea you have make. Don't get discouraged when most of them flop. Just keep coding.
 
Agreed, I am willing to work day and night
 
@Matthcw you can always drop by and drop a "hi"
I'll be here years to come
@Matthcw you sound like Ash Ketchum
 
make a game with my tree
 
Who's that lol
 
1:38 PM
and you wanna be a game dev?????
omg
 
@rlemon looks like an xmas themed but plug
 
hehe
 
If you guys want to sht on my dreams any more you can check my newgrounds page where I made some of my first games
 
@Kitler maybe it is
 
1:38 PM
after a few months of learning flash lol
 
!!/ meow
 
@Matthcw We're not shitting on them lol
 
@Matthcw no one is shitting on your dreams. We are preparing you so you don't fail once and say "fuckit"
 
^
 
1:39 PM
I definately won't give up ever
 
easier said than done
 
Because I have experienced the power of perseverance
 
but good luck!
 
1:40 PM
I really appreciate you guys' input though
What do you guys want to be, any high aims?
 
president
 
rlemon, surely you'd like to be a CEO
 
An exploiter of other idiots who will code for peanuts.
 
of one of your companies
teaminindia
 
@Sippy management*
 
@mikedidthis Exactly.
 
meh I just want 600€ a month and leave me alone
 
@Matthcw I'd bet that at least 95% of the people giving you advice here were actually thinking the same at 18
 
My "dream" is to build a business that works for me.
 
@Matthcw I want to be a farmer
 
1:41 PM
Then I can siphon profits off the top while the muppets do my work for me.
 
If game development doesnt work I willl just become a poet
 
@RedBreast I almost went for a game dev degree.
I took computing instead and now I'm a web developer.
 
haha
 
@Matthcw you will earn the same lol
:P
 
lol
 
1:42 PM
gamedev is easy if you're slutty
#protip
 
What do you guys think of the app industry
 
And female
 
Your saying games are WORSE than apps?
 
@rlemon Careful or you'll get banned by SO management
 
You're*
 
1:42 PM
@Sippy I didn't call anyone a slut
 
(I'm new here I keep forgetting the edit function)
 
just pointing out some hard facts
 
App industry is about the same as game industry.
 
"app" is meaningless to me
everything is an application today
 
Mobile app
nerd
context
 
1:43 PM
If when girls wear makeup
they are app'ing makeup
 
..
You're a weird guy.
 
@Sippy Same, every dude that I know who actually went to game dev works the double of my hours to earn the half of my salary.
 
@RedBreast yup
 
@RedBreast THAT
 
All the game devs I know work in fast food (y)
 
1:44 PM
what's your job?
 
Really Sippy?
 
Yeah lol
 
every website I use is a "web app". I develop a mobile app for work. I have desktop apps. There are cloud apps.. everything is a fucking app. App is the stupidest buzz term. It is like PC vs Mac. Are Macs not Personal Computers (not to mention Apple actually coined the term PC)... I mean shit. They are all PC's
 
So they work in Mc D's and go home and make games?
 
that is kinda the sad reality
 
1:45 PM
@rlemon Mac supremacy confirmed
 
They have game dev degrees and enough ability to code games, but there are no game dev jobs.
 
@Matthcw and then they have to put up with parents who come in and say to their kids, "see, if you dont go to college, you end up like this poor slob here"
 
@Kitler no, Mac supremacy could have happened had Apple not dropped the fucking ball in the 80's and 90's
 
@user3783598 "UI Engineer", monkey job, less than 2y of experience.
 
wow nice
 
1:46 PM
Ohhhhh
 
Apple is two clicks from Microsoft as far as I'm concerned
 
!!afk stuff
 
I think they've forgotten their original vision
 
So they WENT and GOT game dev degrees but there was NO jobs
So the AREN'T indie devs?
 
I'm an embedded software designer / engineer. #noDegree.
 
1:46 PM
Stop capitalising ..
Are you a hipster?
 
my title is a lie. I just browse reddit all day.
 
Roflmao
 
!!define hipster
 
@user3783598 hipster A person who is keenly interested in the latest trends or fashions. [from earlier 20th c.]
 
Lol
 
1:47 PM
@rlemon 350k chat messages speak for themselves
 
rip
 
1/5 found a good job in a great company, rest went web dev because no job or restart studies for something else
 
You say that like you can't make money out of web apps lol
 
@easwee sorry, can't hear you behind my wall of money
 
1:48 PM
crymoneygifplz
 
for real. And those guys are not lazy, working like shit for nothing. There is a point where you need $, that's it.
 
there is a shitload of online contract work that can make you a good living
peoples prides get in the way sometimes. "If i'm going to code it has to be a game! I will not lower myself to coding a fucking captcha system.... Welcome to McDonalds, how can I take your order"
 
Pretty much that.
I'd love to be a games developer
 
Guys what was YOUR dream where you were about 16-18?
 
I just prefer having a life
 
1:50 PM
Guys*
Damn it...
 
@Matthcw I wanted to be a salesman lol
how wrong I was
 
@easwee wat
LOL
 
@easwee did you NOT because you wanted a securer job?
or becuase you were like NOPE.
 
@Matthcw when i graduated from high school, i thought i was going into fashion design. probably would have been a patternmaker if i had pursued it.
 
I have completed secondary school of economics actually
 
1:51 PM
Can you please start using italics instead of capitals
 
weird people
 
then I realized economics is a lie
and went to do multimedia
 
I've always wanted to be a programmer
 
video editing and stuff
now I do mostly frontend work
 
How do I do that? @Sippy
 
1:51 PM
my brother was into it, and i idoled him, so
 
@Matthcw *italics*
 
@easwee this sorta sounds like me
 
This is written in italics
Sweet, goodbye Caps-Lock.
 
Multimedia (3D animation, video, audio) -> Frontend -> "full stack" as of now
 
if I could I would want to be a professional jsfiddle creator lol
 
1:52 PM
Rofl
 
@GNi33 that's what i did :O
 
so you never have to finish and deliver a project
 
I wanted to be a helicopter pilot when I was 16 :)
 
just fiddle with code all day lol
 
My eyesight degraded and now I'm a programmer.
 
1:53 PM
lol
 
got a BA in interactive multimedia :P
 
so you will eventually go blind
 
hehe, yeah, me too
 
I'd hope not
Lol
I have like 19-17 vision or something
 
@Sippy lazors
 
1:53 PM
well, it's a BSc in Media Technology
 
@Sippy do you like your current Job in the programming field?
 
@Kitler Don't you have to use eye drops for your whole life?
 
nope
 
@Sippy 19-17 what measure is that? 7 is almost blind here
I have 1.2 on left eye
 
just the first 2 weeks
 
1:53 PM
@easwee What normal people see at 19 feet, I see at 17 feet.
 
-1.2
 
I used to be an adventurer, but then I took an arrow to my knee. Now I'm a programmer.
2
 
@Sippy ah
 
20 20
 
1:55 PM
@Matthcw It's not very challenging, but I am building my career.
So working in a team is good at this point.
 
Yeah Team work is an essential skill also
 
It's a lot more than that in programming
 
It's also about being on the same page right?
 
@Kitler I'll have to check that out later :P
 
No.
 
1:56 PM
4pm -> I'm out - catch ya later
 
Using version management, communication skills, code practices, development methodologies, etc, etc, etc
 
Catch later m8r
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson I know how to do that in After Effects
 
@Sippy why don't you take the simpler easy route which is:
 
Look up "movement tracking AE"
I used to do it with a small tool called Mocha, came with Master CS5 pack iirc
 
1:58 PM
Program something cool whether it's an app/game/website and then get bought by google
for millions
 
@Matthcw I love that you think that's simple.
 
Disclaimer: If i further develop my point, it will seem like I am trolling
Well, if you look at the companies bought by google
Like how they bought google maps and whatsapp etc.
 

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