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2:00 PM
@Matthcw how many of them were built with the intent of being bought by google?
 
Ok Google didnt buy whatsapp
facbeook did.
Same concept though
0%
 
and i am pretty sure google maps was developed internally?
 
No it was bought
It was developed internally
buy initially bought
 
All I can say is good luck lol
You're gonna need it.
 
way back in maybe 2005
 
2:01 PM
If that's your business model.
 
Haha it's a very bad business model
 
@PraxisAshelin ty, will try getting after effects
 
You don't start off to build a wall, you just choose to lay a brick as carefully and as perfectly as possibly
and you will eventually have a wall
 
if there is no design, there is no concept of perfect
 
The reality is that to do that, you either need a vast amount of capital to begin with in order to pay people to develop your dream, or your need the ability to do it yourself and a lot of capital and time to build it, or you need to be an extremely capable developer who is capable of building both their own dream and the dreams of others side by side until yours is realised.
For most people, the last option is the most viable, but most people aren't extremely capable developers.
 
2:02 PM
 
The latter is what I am to do
And I will do whatever it takes to achieve my goal
 
Great, you better get started, cos you're late.
 
And of course my aim is not to get bought by google, but to make an excellent product(s)
 
posted on July 27, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by 360km */

 
Yeah I agree, thanks for the help guys see the survivors at the top!
peaceeeeeeee
 
2:04 PM
Later o/
 
GL HF
 
how do we feel about placeholders?
 
I love placeholders
 
<label> Contact Name <input type="text" id="contact-name" placeholder="Joe Smith" /></label>
yea but when used like this?
 
@Feeds I don't really get this one ..
@rlemon no.
 
2:08 PM
@Sippy so no placeholders?
wait. maybe I'll ask a real designer. :P
 
si senior
 
@mikedidthis how do you feel about my placeholders?
 
keep them
 
@rlemon jelly
My go to gal would be @cimmanon for placeholder(s), but they seem correct.
 
also, I've decided I'm not writing any HTML today and use as many 'builders' as possible.
 
2:10 PM
@mikedidthis huh?
 
builders?
 
@cimmanon you seem to have strong feelings on placeholder content, I am 1/10 on them.
 
/vomit
 
no, fuck writing HTML
 
2:11 PM
@mikedidthis oh, just that they shouldnt be used instead of a proper label, which a lot of people seem to do
 
that shit is the worst
 
because the spec says you shouldnt ;p
 
@rlemon Good idea
 
@Sippy don't be crabby
 
I see nothing wrong with it.
Placeholder to me means example content.
If it's not obvious that it's example content, it's wrong
 
2:13 PM
@Sippy right, but what i am saying is <label>Name <input type="text" name="name" /></label> is correct, but <input type="text" name="name" placeholder="Name" /> is wrong
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson ping me if u need help with it later
 
@cimmanon /agree
 
@PraxisAshelin ty :D
 
a lot of people do the later :-(
 
@cimmanon cus they n00bz
The one that I think people get confused with is search placeholders
I would argue that it should be an example search
Rather than "Search ... "
vOv
 
2:16 PM
sounds like placeholder as a label to me :p
 
mhm
really wish my eye would stop twitching.
 
poke it
 
ow.
 
haha @Sippy one more question xD How come people cannot be "Masters of learning"?
 
you mean input where the label is the placeholder?
 
2:18 PM
@Matthcw I don't believe it works like that.
 
Search is even a different case as far as you have the icon with it
 
Learning one thing is not the same as learning another.
 
But wouldn't you agree that skills are transferable
 
Some are.
 
So the same skills you used to learn how to ride a bike or drive a car
 
2:19 PM
No.
 
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are the same skills you would use to learn Swift
 
And I want a pet unicorn
 
Nope
 
you can be a master of learning
by training your brain to learn better
 
2:20 PM
Ohh
Alright, just wondered
 
why do you think those 'brain age' games exist. children learn better than adults.
 
Yeah i agree @rlemon
 
:)
 
Some people may learn faster than others aswell
 
alcohol makes me learn stupider
 
2:21 PM
I learn by making mistakes, I wouldn't want to learn how to drive that way.
 
But if you did
Surely you'd be an even better driver than you are now right?
 
Not really.
 
lol you guys still at bachelors and learning? go code plz
 
@easwee I am codingz
 
@easwee I'm writing HTML and CSS
I wish I was coding
:(
 
2:22 PM
lal
 
rip
 
no soup for you
anyone tried fabric.js before?
 
not i
 
@rlemon neigh
Hahahaha
You missed a trick mate
 
@Sippy that's Jackie Chan in Drunken Master... probably referencing coming in on Monday and having to code again, possibly hungover
 
2:24 PM
@TylerH vOv
 
or someone who refactors every week
> "that code is so last week!"
 
How to mark a contenteditable td as a password field? So it simply shows asterix (*) while typing?
 
@icecub whats wrong with a password input field, you know, like youre supposed to use?
 
@icecub type=password?
 
contenteditable td sounds dirty
 
2:27 PM
ctd?
 
@cimmanon It's for an internal administration system. The idea is to show a table with all employees where the manager can simply click / edit a user
 
@icecub Use JS to augment it
 
no
use a fucking input type="password"
don't make work harder for yourself
 
that's what I meant
 
ohh
 
2:29 PM
If he can't add that server side, add it when the page loads.
Don't see why that can't be server side.
 
I thought you meant replace the keystrokes with * using js
mah bad
 
Fuck that xD
I'm too lazy for that.
 
Of course passwords are encrypted and can't be "edited". But if passwords need to be changed I rather not have it show on the screen, that's all. I'll see if I can use type=password. Thanks guys
 
@icecub type=password only works on <input> tags
 
@icecub HOOOOOOOOOOLD UP
 
2:30 PM
when the user focuses on the TD you replace the content with an input \
set the focus
 
You're displaying the passwords of all users in a table with editable content cells?
 
done and done
 
Are you fucking insane
 
@Sippy just let it blow up on him
sounds like someone else requested this (i.e. the boss)
 
k goes back under rock
 
2:31 PM
Admin should be able to change current password (without seeing old), at best
 
@Sippy he says they are encrypted, but still, you shouldnt even display the encrypted values
 
@Sippy lol no ofc not! I'm simply displaying 5 asterixes (literal)
 
@Neil no, at best admins should ONLY be able to make a password as 'needs recovery'
then you email a link to a change password form
 
@icecub If you wire it up so that you can change the password you're just gonna break shit
Password change should be difficult enough to do so you can't do it by accident
 
password changes should only be done by the end user - at the very most an admin should be able to delete the password hash so the user is forced to enter a new one.
 
2:32 PM
at no point should a user be able to determine existing password of another user
 
He's not saying that
 
changing another user's password is bad enough, because you essentially have the power to keep them from entering
 
Whoever flagged that, piss off. listing passwords is fucking insane.
 
why are we flagging the f-word?
 
What he's saying is that he's got a content editable table, he's gonna display the encrypted password for every user, but even if it cannot be read, it can be changed.
That's a horrendous idea.
 
2:33 PM
I agree. But my envirement is different. 1) Users can't change their password at all. Only the manager can. 2) It's an internal system. Can't be reached through the internet.
 
@Sippy Yep
 
@cimmanon 'cause is spamy / offensive ?
 
@EugenZaharia how is that spam? how on earth is that spam?
 
@icecub Fine, but do not do that in a table. Have a reset password link for each user in that table instead, which requires confirmation.
 
@icecub Just show "*******" where the password should be
 
2:33 PM
The fuck is "spamy" about fuck
 
@Neil No!
 
Fuck that shit
 
YOU BADDIE
 
And I don't mean asterisks for each password character.. I mean literally "*******"
 
Even if you would like to show the encrypted passwords with *, you could get them in the value of the input no?
 
2:34 PM
"Can't be reached through the internet" <- lol
 
@EugenZaharia how is "fuck" offensive in that context?
how is emphasis offensive?
 
Guys what are you on about?!?! I'm not displaying the password at all!!! I'm simply displaying 5 asterixes as LITERAL. The passwords aren't even pulled from the database?!
 
please explain
 
@icecub That is not the point mate
 
@RedBreast depends. if they have a rainbow lookup table and their encryption method was weak, you could
 
2:34 PM
@icecub okay.
that makes more sense
still. managers shouldn't know the passwords :/ that is a flawed system
 
The point is that you're using a content editable cell which will SAVE whatever gets entered in it presumably?
 
We were under the understanding that you wanted to show encrypted passwords
 
So if your moron manager enters something and presses Enter, your user now has a new password and no one knows what it is
Correct?
 
Ofc not. I'm not idiot. I simply want to mask the typing if a new password must be issued. That's all
 
@icecub Too late ;-)
 
2:35 PM
Exactly Sippy
 
If that's the case why display anything for the password at all?
 
GET HIM! :P
But yeah ^
 
Oh god
 
Why not just a button change password?
 
How about this.. every user has e-mail associated with it. Manager can click a button that sends to that e-mail address a message saying that password has expired
 
2:36 PM
@icecub ignore the content editable. just use a form input
 
Just use a "Change Password" link instead
 
@icecub <input type="password /> already does that
 
Next time that user enters, it will force them to change it
 
@Neil this would be the optimal solution @icecub
 
@Neil As said before: Internal system. It has no internet. Can't mail
 
2:36 PM
see if you can get your manager to sign off on that.
 
@icecub Frig
 
don't email then
 
@icecub Define internal
Because we have internal systems that have access to our mail servers
 
Aw, damn, missed an opportunity to scold someone for lame flagging :P
 
on next login prompt for old password and a mandatory password change.
 
2:37 PM
Internal as only available localhost
 
If it is just an internal thing. Can't you just appoint somebody to handle password resets manually?
 
Erm
 
You can still force them to change password page
 
I mean as within local network
 
Intranet?
 
2:37 PM
we have an internal email server
 
local networks can have mail servers
 
Exactly
 
setting up a pop/smtp isn't THAT difficult
 
Do you have an internal mail server?
 
@icecub short answer: use a form input. long answer: your idea is flawed (maybe not YOUR idea, but the one you are presenting) so we're offering alternatives. take them or leave them :P
 
2:38 PM
Yes but it's a distribution centre. There are like 3 computers in here and 1 server. Perhaps a total of 5 users will be using it. Possible even less
 
(just so you don't think we're just being anal assholes about this)
 
@Sippy isn't that basically how mysql does everything
 
@TylerH Do you mean PhpMyAdmin?
 
ok, so back to the original problem, why cant you just, you know... use normal form input elements?
 
Or does MySql have a front end now? O_o
 
2:39 PM
@cimmanon I don't think that is a restriction here
 
input type="password" is just begging "hey coach, put me in!"
 
he was just wanting to do it with contentEditable
 
Can't have one password field without a 2nd to validate it
 
@icecub Right, right
 
@Sippy WHen using mysql you can only take in from / in the backend
 
2:39 PM
Either way you should make a more concrete method of changing passwords.
 
Not saying I couldn't. It was simply a way of doing it. In the beginning I said I was gonna use input password instead as advised, but all the raging started xD
 
@PeeHaa ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
@icecub Lol sorry
Content Editable to change passwords is awful as an idea that's all I'll say :D
Even if you can't read them, it's so prone to errors.
 
@icecub yea that is why I just explained why. :P
we like helping. we LOVE pointing out when people are wrong.
 
content editable in place of an actual form is pretty bad >.>
 
THIS IS THE INTERNET DAMMIT!
YOU CANNOT BE WRONG HERE!
 
2:40 PM
@Sippy yes
 
@Sippy Can too!
 
@TylerH Probably
 
Hello Everybody. With css, Please how to make the html content of a page start on the top of the page without any space between the first table and the top ?
 
!!xkcd wrong on the internet
 
2:41 PM
@Sippy clearly you haven't seen Donald Trump's tweets
 
@TylerH I actively avoid his tweets.
 
@ManOfGod body has inherent padding
remove it
body { padding:0; margin:0; }
 
lol. Anyway thanks a lot guys. Will be back for some more rage if I need it again, ghehe :P
 
@icecub You're welcome lol
 
@rlemon
 
2:42 PM
@ManOfGod
 
@rlemon I did that but it did not work html {
font-family: sans-serif;



-ms-text-size-adjust: 100%;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;

}
body {
margin:0px;
margin-top:0px;
padding:0; margin:0;

}
 
why do you have so many margin declarations?
 
then you're padding it out in other places (unless html also has padding, which I don't think it does)
@ZachSaucier confused
 
I have a load of javascript functions in my header reference of my website, I have moved them into a .js file and then referenced that .js file in the header where the script block used to be, however they are no longer getting called on page load now, I have tried moving the reference down to the bottom of the page howver this still doesnt work, what else can I try>?
 
@Ebikeneser jsfiddle or we can't help
 
2:43 PM
@Ebikeneser bottom of the body will wait for the body to be parsed.
so if that doesn't work we'll need more information
 
is there a way of making my table start from the top of the page ?
 
AHHHH FUCKING TWITCHY EEEEEEEEEEEEYEEEEEEEE
 
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@FitPeople how the hell do I get motivated to run. Since I can't weight train anymore I've been gaining the bad weight. so I need to actually do cardio now. :/
 
@rlemon get a dog
 
2:45 PM
I can't seem to get motivated to run :/
 
@rlemon Row
It's easier
And better.
 
but I have a treadmill
 
a dog that is active and likes to run :p
 
not a row machine
 
Sell it
 
2:45 PM
and I can't row dude
my wrist is fucked.
 
Don't need
 
I need a workout that requires nothing in my hands.
 
sex
gg
 
@rlemon like permanently fucked?
 
no, but I won't be able to lift again till at the very least, the new year
probably march-ish
 
2:46 PM
damn
as for running, you just gotta push yourself for the first few runs
 
@rlemon even after creating a table .notre_tableau {
padding:0; margin:0;
}

My table

<table class="notre_tableau" style="display: inline-table;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="1280"> still start after the top of the page and I would like it to start at the top of the page with no space on top
 
2MuchWristExercise();
 
basically my left wrist is still injured, but has lost ALL strength. so I need to let it heal, then SLOWLY regain the strength in it
 
I actually started enjoying it after I saw some good progress in stamina after a few runs
 
I hate running
 
2:47 PM
getting motivated to do it gets a whole lot easier then
 
fuck running
 
@ManOfGod that isn't all of the code
 
A guy found a service online guaranteed to help you lose weight. He decided to try the base plan guaranteed to lose 5 pounds each week. The next morning he was greeted by a lovely woman with a sign on her back that reads "If you can catch me, you can have me." The plan worked like a charm, and he decided to look at the other plans.
He finds one that promised 10 pounds each week. The next morning he was greeted by what he could tell, a model, with again a sign on her back that read "If you can catch me, you can have me." Best money he ever spent. He takes a look at their advance weight
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@ManOfGod jsfiddle.net
 
@Neil Lololol
 
2:48 PM
a good playlist helped me out a lot, and, if you're into that kind of stuff, Zombies Run! is a pretty fun way to make it a whole lot more interesting and "rewarding" I think. I like it
 
an oldie but goodie
 
I would just rather go garden or work on something else than run
when I was lifting I would rather lift than do other shit
 
you could get an exercise bike, you could at least read a book or something while you do that
 
biking hurts my knees.
:/
 
that's what I do to lose weight
 
2:50 PM
bad joints.
 
then running will probably do too
 
true
 
running does. not as much as biking tho
 
(excessive) running is really horrible for your joints
 
squats help
 
2:50 PM
Biking should be better because less impact?
 
heavy impact means you're running wrong
 
@rlemon really? I was under the impression that biking has a lot less impact on your joints
 
I never land on my heels
 
Meh. I simply got diabetes type 1. No matter how much fat I eat, it's gone within a day or 2. Pretty much 1 of the very few benefits if this disease
 
@GNi33 it isn't impact, repetitive movement does
 
2:51 PM
oh, okay
 
i can't stand running
 
I can't run more than 15 minutes before I need to stop and stretch and do a few weightless squats for my knees
 
scenery doesn't change, no wind in your face, and you feel like you should be doing something else with your time
 
Go swimming. Much more effective than running
 
at least biking could be confused with wanting to go somewhere
 
2:53 PM
I would love to swim (good for my back as well) but I live in Canada, and public pools are disgusting
 
@Neil how does the scenery not change when running?
 
@rlemon do interval training
 
@GNi33 well it changes less quickly then
 
You can see that there is a space at the top
 
2:53 PM
@Neil well, yeah. probably depends on where you run too
 
@ManOfGod my god
did you seriously use the align property?!
 
@ManOfGod i am impressed by how much code it took to reproduce the problem >.>
 
you realize it is 2015 not 2005 right?
 
why are there 15 lines of space
 
ManOfGod, not ManOfCSS :|
 
2:54 PM
Seems like Dreamweaver stuff. :D
 
and spacer gifs!
 
Lol. Can you please help me out ? Lol lol
 
the whitespace is the spacer gifs
 
@GNi33 you could conceivably bike at 35 kilometers per hour if you pushed yourself hard enough
 
@cimmanon NO WAY
 
2:55 PM
something that you can't say with running
 
i havent seen spacer gifs in 10 years ><
 
Oh my god it does
That's beautiful
 
@ManOfGod Change display: inline-table; to display: table;
 
  <tr>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="684" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="97" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="31" height="1" alt="" /></td>
   <td><img src="images/decoupes/spacer.gif" width="61" height="1" alt="" /></td>
this is your whitespace at the top
 
@Neil yep. I just really hate biking :D
 
2:55 PM
YOU PUT IT THERE
:P
 
yeah, why is the table set to inline-table?
 
<div align="center">
don't ever do this
please and thankyou
easy way to horizontally align something is to give it a defined with then auto margins
.foo {
  width: 200px;
  margin: 0 auto;
}
 
@rlemon Tks a lot BUT the problem is that when i remove the spacer.gif, row, it disrupt my design
 
@ManOfGod no shit xD
 
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2:57 PM
@ManOfGod tables are NOT made for DESIGNING
they are for listing tabular data only
 
tables are for tabular data (you know, like spreadsheets)
would you use excel to design your resume?
 
@cimmanon Tks I will now become also a ManOfCss Lol
 
@ManOfGod You've literally taken every single HTML and CSS antipattern from the last 15 years and implemented all of it in one page.
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That's just fucking impressive.
 
^
 
I applaud you.
 
2:58 PM
Table websites are fairly obsolete now, we don't build pages like this anymore.
 
he could be working on a 15 year old page
we never know
 
dont you still have to use tables for html email?
 
Yes ^
 
(i dont do html email)
 
you don't HAVE too, but it is the easiest
 
2:59 PM
Really?
 
also, i hate html email
 
@Sippy you can have ugly emails.
 
 
@rlemon Ah.
 
why does my email need to have a banner ??
 
2:59 PM
I prefer css email
 
So now i had a photoshop design sent that I have slice with fireworks and fireworks gave me only table. I would love to learn how to convert these into a responsive thing without table. If there is a link you know I will appreciate it
 
Reminds me the html generating system of Photoshop
 
Outlook still uses MS Word to render HTML
Take from that what you will.
 

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