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11:00 PM
lol!.. You promise to not RickRoll Cody?!?
 
@Slate Ah, that's useful! I was just being judgy based on your lack of imaginary SO points.
 
I feel like this is one of those emphasis puzzles.
_I_ promise not to rickroll you.
I _promise_ not to rickroll you.
I promise _not_ to rickroll you.
I promise not to _rickroll_ you.
I promise not to rickroll _you_.
 
Zoe
I said not not though
 
...wow, how did I miss that?
 
Zoe
Did none of you see that? Lmao
 
11:04 PM
Haha, wow.
 
Zoe
Should've stayed quiet and caught you lot off-guard :p
 
I... can't believe I missed that.
 
Everyone missed that.. oh, that is clever. I feel cheated and abused :)
 
@Scratte So what's new?
 
Zoe
This almost feels better than getting a rickroll through :p
 
11:05 PM
See how good it feels to actually be clever and innovative?
 
@Slate So.. you didn't copy'n'paste it?.. tsk tsk. I can't believe that you do not have The Key™ :O
 
Not yet! I need to get one. Will receive one at some point.
 
Zoe
Speaking of: youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8JexGCZEo (a guy made a rickroll ad on YouTube that received over 5 million impressions)
 
I have one in my cart, just deciding what else I want to buy from Drop along with it. And hoping that the adorable cat-paw keycap I want gets restocked...
 
So.. now you're saying you're going to RickRoll us.. and we're still clicking the links?!?
 
11:07 PM
Cat paw keycap?
 
I want the black/pink, but they have every one but that...
 
Is that for the Stack Overflow keyboard, or for your regular keyboard?
Hmm, I don't know, Black on Black looks pretty rad.
 
Regular. I'd probably put it in my Esc key.
 
I currently have a red Esc key because red keycaps came free with my last keyboard.
Oh, Drop actually sells mechanical keyboards. Unfortunately, they don't have any good switches.
 
Zoe
@Scratte it's not a rickroll on its own though. It's actually a hilarious video ^^" goes like 500$ over budget too
 
11:10 PM
I'm also debating buying an entire second keycap set...mine is currently very hard to read with the backlighting off, or in enough sunlight.
 
But... who reads the letters on the keycaps?!
 
@CodyGray me, when using the number row
 
Huh.
 
my touchtyping there is somewhat less than perfect
otherwise, I entirely touch type. Otherwise this keyboard would be nigh unusable.
 
@RyanM I need one of those..
 
Zoe
11:12 PM
I low-key expected programmers to be familiar with their keyboard(s) ^^"
 
@Scratte This is a solvable problem, with the wonders of e-commerce and global logistics.
 
@Zoe Drop? They don't have any good keyswitches!
 
@Zoe Yes, I'm watching it. I've paused the other one at 8 hours and 30 minutes left ;)
@RyanM Naah.. not really. I'd have to pay more than 3 times the price to get it where I'm at.
 
@Zoe I can touch-type on a numpad! But I switched to a tenkeyless recently.
 
The Cherry MX Blues are just too soft
 
Zoe
11:13 PM
@CodyGray did you reply to the wrong message, or am I just far too sleepy to parse context?
 
@RyanM Oooh, I've been wanting to do this. It feels like I'm leaving a lot behind by not having the numeric keypad, but objectively, I don't use it much (despite being able to touch-type with it), and it would be much more ergonomic to have the mouse closer.
 
I'm a fan of the Cherry MX Browns. They feel nice and they won't make everyone around hate you. But if you think Blues are too soft, you'll probably hate them.
 
@Zoe Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant by "their keyboards".
@RyanM I like for everyone around me to hate me.
 
@CodyGray I have a cheapo standalone numpad to solve this problem, but I intend to upgrade to a mechanical one at some point.
 
@RyanM Well, there's your other Drop item.
 
11:14 PM
@CodyGray So this is why you keep hanging around chat?
 
@CodyGray They don't have any good ones! I want a dark one to fit the rest of the aesthetic, and the only one they have is light!
(I was genuinely surprised by the lack of these)
 
You don't like the koi one?
(Yeah, me neither.)
 
It's out of stock even if I did :-p
 
Buy the kit, fill it with cat-paw keyswitches, call it a day.
 
Zoe
@CodyGray meant in terms of the layout, and what goes where
 
11:17 PM
@Zoe So, you mean, be able to touchtype? Or something else?
 
Oh, that's new... tempting. Feb 2022 ship date though...
 
Zoe
What characters* are* where
 
All these radioactive keyboards and keypad...
 
Zoe
@CodyGray I'm reasonably certain I don't touchtype to spec, but I can often type with 100% accuracy without looking at my keyboard or screen, because I know where everything is
 
I don't need mine to light up.
 
Zoe
11:18 PM
And that's a consequence of lots and lots (and lots) of typing
 
@Zoe I'm picturing you with the keyboard upside down, fingers in all sorts of random places...
 
@Zoe touchtyping is just typing without looking as in..... Typing by touch
 
Also the software being a random Google Drive link to an EXE file...yeaaaahhh no.
 
Hah, oof.
Next question: why does a keyboard require software?
 
Zoe
@Nick sure, but there's still a spec on what fingers should press what keys
 
11:20 PM
I have never once installed software for a keyboard.
 
@Zoe that's just a specific style of touchtyping, it's not mandatory
 
@Zoe Yeah: the ones closest to it.
 
Zoe
@CodyGray fun things do happen when my fingers shift though
 
You know there are little raised lines on the keys meant to solve that problem?
 
Like IIRC you're meant to touch C with your middle finger if you're a "good" typist, but ew
 
Zoe
11:21 PM
I've written short chat messages (but >50 characters) with a bad finger offset, without noticing xd
 
Middle finger? No. Left index for C.
@Zoe Does anyone else notice?
 
Zoe
Oh well, if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment with my bed :p
@CodyGray I notice right after pressing enter
 
I may be thinking X, in which case, still ew, I think? I'm in bed, not in front of a real keyboard
 
Yes, X is pressed with the middle finger. What do you press it with? Your toe?
Actually, no. It's pressed with the ring finger, I think.
I have no idea. My fingers know, but I don't.
 
Left index, probably, I'd need to get up and check
@CodyGray yeah, this
 
11:23 PM
You didn't answer the "toe" question.
I am suspect...
 
The middle finger would be an odd choice. I use my ring finger, based on some cursory testing.
 
I said left index!
That's not toe
 
Yeah, I guess left middle finger doesn't do any bottom row keys?
 
@CodyGray I don't C how you use a keyboard...
 
It's meant to do C
 
11:24 PM
Huh. Maybe I do it wrong.
I'm 99% sure I press C with my left index.
 
Everyone does, because ew
 
Honestly, I'm pretty sure most people are sloppy about how you're "supposed" to do it. I am, too.
 
I do M with the right index, too
I did not previously consider myself a sloppy typist!
 
@RyanM The "H" in this sentence was typed with my left index finger, for instance.
 
Oh dear. That's weird.
I'm at least consistent.
 
11:26 PM
I use my indexes (indices? Even with fingers?) a lot more than I "should"
 
Would be so much cooler if you were saying that you use your middle fingers a lot more than you should.
 
No, I tend to swear with my mouth rather than my hands
Oh you meant on the keyboard :p
 
Anywhere appropriate!
 
This is odd.. I use the left middle finger for c..
 
Wait, that picture is titled as "USA", why does it have two keys above right shift, don't you guys have a fat return key there?
 
11:31 PM
@Scratte Apparently, that's normal/correct. You just don't type like a pumpkin.
@Nick Yeah, that's not a US layout.
We don't have a shift key next to the z, either.
 
@CodyGray ...what keyboard are you using?
 
Oops.
I meant to say slash.
 
Yeah, cause you do have a shift next to Z :p
 
Right
This looks correct.
 
@CodyGray No the left one
 
11:33 PM
Other than the fingers, which look super weird and stubby.
 
This looks like a very serious disease and they should seek treatment
 
@Nick :newspaper:
 
@CodyGray But that's the odd thing. I type so much slower than you do.
 
@CodyGray oh come on
It wasn't that bad
 
It was that good
 
11:34 PM
:D
 
But yes, I confirm that that looks like a US keyboard (minus the surrounding F-keys, arrow keys, etc.)
It looks almost like a 65% keyboard
 
Actually, does anyone else have a completely unstructured typing style? My hands 'float' above the keyboard and move in advance of words. Like in typing "This test", the first T in "this" goes to the left pointer and the right pointer gets the H, but in "test" the right pointer gets the T while the left pointer gets the "e".
 
I think that is counter-indicated because it is inefficient to move your hands/wrists so much
 
Very likely is. I just don't really think about it anymore.
 
My typing might be mostly correct, but the way I hold a pen is completely f-ed.
I "taught" myself how to write as a small child holding a crayon, and I held that in a very strange way, apparently.
 
11:39 PM
@CodyGray I went to school with someone who just held it in their fist, like a preschooler with a crayon
Oh
 
I don't fist it.
But my fingers do all sorts of weird things
Which leads to a very tight grip and lots of cramping nonetheless
 
Ah, could be worse then
 
My index finger literally hikes up the shaft of the pen and kind of curls around uselessly.
 
I'm trying to do this and can't figure it out
 
You don't want to replicate it
 
11:41 PM
How do you write without three roughly colocated points of contact?
 
@Undo Type like a pro?
 
I have two other fingers + a thumb
 
I always use my index finger to touch the pen and also provide spacing calibration to the paper (just barely touching). Seems to help my brain know where everything is.
 
You hold a pen with only your index finger?
 
I just push it down extremely hard. Guarantees contact with the paper.
 
This is my skeptical face.
 
@Scratte Fake. News.
 
 
Seems like your middle finger is providing the paper-spacing calibration?
 
That's your middle finger no?
 
11:46 PM
oh
I don't know my fingers apparently
 
That is also how I hold a pen
 
That is, I believe, how one is supposed to hold a pen.
 
I just don't do it anywhere near a mac
 
Undo knows his fingers like the back of his hand.
 
... not at all, apparently
 
11:47 PM
Paws are more difficult
 
I have found this on the internet and will refer to fingers this way from now on
it's the naanyeka that does the paper-spacing calibration
 
Yep, I went to high school with someone in the age 1-2 group
 
Old enough to know that's a pen, not a pencil like they're claiming. That's the true test.
also, they are neglecting that a pen is a passable dagger and may be used by a 1-2 year old as such
Unfortunately, there is no information on grip type in loweringthebar.net/2011/11/…, though I assume it to be the first panel
 
"Writing tool" is a new one to me
 
11:51 PM
@Scratte Maybe 3-4 years
Except not exactly like that
 
@Undo glad to see another Lowering the Bar fan :D
 
I got sucked into it a month or two ago and it's been a huge time suck
 
I've probably read most of it at this point, and I get new posts via RSS. Always a delight.
 
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