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00:00
@Mosho pushups
5 sets of 20
go
done
watch this
found two channels recently of guys from ontario who record themselves camping and doing shit in the bush
all local
I could make a channel with videos of me shitting in a bush
@Mosho That's something I'd expect to find in the dark corners of xhamster, not YouTube
00:15
@KendallFrey you were making a game right
how is that going
I have no idea which you're referring to
I've played with many game ideas over the years
The answer I guess is "not well"
something similar to civ I think it was
ah right
I moved onto more instantly gratifying things
I see
I actually pulled up some of the code for it the other day
00:17
I wonder if I'll ever be able to sit down and make a shitty game before I die
I made plenty of shitty games when I was young
it seems highly unlikely without finding someone to pay me for it
I'll pay you
@KendallFrey thanks, I wasn't feeling old enough already
Cash on delivery
00:19
delivery of what
1 triple-A title for $60
original
@Luggage Aardvarks Against Alligators
invoice is in the mail
shit
if you insist
for towc's plant
1 year prediction, we are watching him try to change the diaper of his kid and starting a fire on twitch tv.
00:23
is baby poo flammable?
maybe
babies are
ok I have an idea for a game
do go on
a shitty platformer
nevermind
00:34
with a twist
it kills you
what should I write it with
perl
rebel
might use the opportunity to learn something new
rather than just use canvas
00:35
opengl with... go.
processing
I almost wanted to learn it yesterday
learn what
but it just looks like canvas easymode
@Mosho processing
will I get far by googling "processing"
processing lang
00:37
ohh, we thought that was just you debug logging yourself
it didn't feel strange from you.
well... ok
@david I had no idea rescuties was a sequel
@Mosho BTW, check this out: beesandbombs.tumblr.com This guys writes these in Processing
so, it's logo
00:40
hmm
@Luggage But canvas instead of turtle
cool, but where's the source
hmm...
@Luggage That makes me slightly excited
00:43
I played around with a cpp to JS compiler
maybe I could try that
hmm I'll give this processing thing a try
p5 (cough d3 cough)
d3 uses that?
no, I am just suggesting the name is apeing d3
@phenomnomnominal Call for proposals? yeah, they do em every year. I can ask if they're still accepting applications?
@Luggage why do you assume that
00:47
morn
I just do. I have nothing to back it up.
that's what I thought
@monners please do!
What are you going to do about it?
@monners did it work?
00:49
@Luggage I'm going to disregard what you said
that's what I thought
@SterlingArcher Yes! Thanks!
Almost as exciting as anthrax
Good 😃 I wanted to get you lifting gloves, but they wouldn't ship so I said fuck it lol
hopefully everybody else pays up too, otherwise that'd be lame
for the challenge?
I promise to only spend it on morally questionable products
00:51
chyeah
So did you get him the "red bull" or nah?
@monners lifting gloves or buttplugs tbh
right
I can do a gift card
I have lifting gloves, so...
@monners is amazon.com ok
00:51
@Mosho Perfect
give email
> Aussie mate sets record for most lube purchased in a single day
s/purchased/consumed/
@monners then how will I get it to you
paste a bitcoin in here
fuck I can't use my gift card balance
@Mosho I legit am going to do that tomorrow morning
do what
00:59
Your morning ritual
The Terminator
ah
good luck
@phenomnomnominal Call for speakers is November 1st
> How I Survived a Toxic Chatroom with Three Simple Tricks
Sweet :)
Ima submit my Harry Potter ASTs talk
@Luggage why
01:04
buy in bulk and save
Just dunk and go
01:20
Lube wrestling
01:48
In statistics, the Kendall rank correlation coefficient, commonly referred to as Kendall's tau coefficient (after the Greek letter τ), is a statistic used to measure the ordinal association between two measured quantities. A tau test is a non-parametric hypothesis test for statistical dependence based on the tau coefficient. It is a measure of rank correlation: the similarity of the orderings of the data when ranked by each of the quantities. It is named after Maurice Kendall, who developed it in 1938, though Gustav Fechner had proposed a similar measure in the context of time series in 189...
...huh.
I understand none of that
That makes two of us
lol my computer crashed and the processing IDE doesn't have auto save
and it doesn't save when you run your code
:|
02:20
That sucks. I have a habit of pressing ctrl s every minute.
and it also doesn't seem to have autocomplete
... Why are you using it then?
02:37
Why do I do these things
that doesn't look too bad
because you have no life
@david I haven't derived β₃ or β₄ yet
Look at how much funner it got from 1 to 2
02:55
Morning
I used to make few ajax post requests, but now server expects recaptcha which is invisible
is there anyway I can still automate ajax post requests without going to web pages itself
@Mathematics You know what captchas are for, right?
03:24
even after all this time
I still have to do a double take when dealing with webpack hot reload
import render from './app';

console.log('huh');

if (__DEVELOPMENT__ && module.hot) {
  module.hot.accept(['./app'], () => {
    console.log(render.toString())
    render();
  });
}
//app.ts
    const render = () => {
        console.log('wat');
    };

    export default render;
huh gets logged only once, ever
but every time I update render in app.ts, the new function is logged
too much magic
03:45
I got a smart phone :)
finally I can do the stuff cool kidz doo
Such as?
that thing with the flapping birds that attack pigs
Snapchat
and javascript benchmark
tinder
No, just no.
03:54
but think of how much nicer the swamp would be with a nice lass around
Javascript Benchmarks by pros are more fun than tinder.
04:08
Hey Kevin
@KendallFrey yes, but when getting to webpage takes ages and your internet is slow
you are not left with much choice
there must be a way around
however captcha doesn't always appears
maybe I can generate one myself in code for post request
but I got no clue how it actually validates token
what kind of captcha?
@KevinB how would I find that out
go to the page
on there web page it's this on the bottom
it automatically submits with form
04:20
heh, you won't be cracking that one
cracking :/
they're meant to stop bots from posting directly to the endpoint with spam
which is essentially what you're doing (even if you're not posting spam)
totally understand that, if I use selenium, it would most work as I only received image verification once in 10 attempts
To bypass it, you would have to send the correct data from the captcha forward to the server, and the server would need to be able to validate it with the ccaptcha server
why it not always asks for verification
04:22
only when it suspects you
somehow though that captcha doesn't keep spam out of my forums. i suspect it's just being bypassed by hand
can't really beat that without also catching legitimate users from time to time
if I get site key, I can get a valid token though
is it your server?
because, if not, i don't think that'l help
I am more trying to understand how it works, and one I am looking at atm is 3rd party
when form submits, it uses site key to generate a token, which I can do as well
yeah, recaptcha by google is one of if not the most popular
04:27
Oh look, it's on GitHub: github.com/google/recaptcha
oh yeah, it's from google I am looking at
I would like to make 3 - 5 post requests with delay of 3 seconds per day, so I hope it won't suspect me I guess
if i am using react-router to do routing once my page has loaded, how can i access the current user's session? I have a page that can only be accessed by a select few roles.
not sure how to get my current user's roles when in the client code
never used react-router 😬 or 😀 pending on if it's bad or not :p
but usually that's just an ajax requst away to get the user's roles, then you show/hide content based on role, or force redirect the user if they access a route they don't have access to
that simple, eh
How do I move Google authenticator from one device to another
04:31
the same technique you'd use if you were doing it serverside
168
Q: Has reCaptcha been cracked / hacked / OCR'd / defeated / broken?

Dave RutledgeHave any programming methods have been used to defeat reCAPTCHA? I'm interested in seeing evidence and potentially demonstrations that reCAPTCHA in particular has been made obsolete by completely automated, humanless methods. To clarify, not looking for reCAPTCHA-cheating solutions that involve...

good question (re google auth)
there's nothing in the app that would facilitate that,
My chrome is really fucked up :|
note the age of that question
all the answers saying they're broken are talking about the image versions, which aren't used by this captcha.
@KevinB maybe I am too optimistic but something inside me says there must be a crack
04:39
the most effective anti-spam tool i've ever used was written in coldfusion
i think it's vulnerable if you know that formprotect is in use... but with it being so old, that hasn't mattered yet.
hmmm I will need to think differently now
it uses a combination of things, including a honey pot, mouse tracking, keyboard tracking, number of links in submission, injection-looking submissions, etc and generates an overall score that can be used to determine how likely the submission is legitimate
i'm fairly certain recaptcha is now using a similar combination of techinques
oh, even form timing. so if the form is submitted in .01 seconds it's obviously spam
:p
I agree
5
Q: How to solve a reCaptcha in advance using a web scraper?

user3259472I'm currently in the process of trying to solve a reCaptcha. One of the suggestions received was a method called token farming. For example, it's possible to farm for reCaptcha tokens from another site, and within 2 minutes, apply one of the farmed tokens to the site I'm trying to solve by chang...

I thought it generates a new token each time..
hehe
not sure how long it will be valid for though
04:47
if you want an interesting test, load up the page that has the recaptcha in a fresh incognito mode window
\o
morning
1
Q: Do Google reCAPTCHA V2 tokens expire?

Ewald StiegerI am using Google reCAPTCHA V2 and verify the token on the server side as described in https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/verify Do these tokens automatically expire? How long before they do?

it will give you a far more involved captcha, because it hasn't determined if you're legitimate or not.
give up for today
will look into it later on
just tested, tokens are different
spot on lol
sometime it works :L
A user has posted the (same)[https://stackoverflow.com/a/46454371/4826457] (answer)[https://stackoverflow.com/a/46454751/4826457] twice. both old questions.
You guys think one should be dupe target of the other?
a mod will take care of it
ok mod flag
i put one in
:)
04:58
ok thanks
they can better handle the situation as far as the user goes. but for the questions...
they are duplicates, but
which one do you choose? or is there yet another that's better?
both of them are dupe targets
was hoping someone with mjolnir in JS would know
so pinged here
hehe
stackoverflow.com/questions/572897/… is the most popular, but... it's not quite the same question
i'd just leave it be
fine I will let it be
05:42
im still not quite working out how the my client code can know the details of the logged in user.
05:57
I'm an idiot it comes with the request
yo
🌮
sup :d
for me that's easy, when i log the user in, i follow it up with another request that pulls down the user's profile, and one for roles/permissions. i persist it throughout the request. if page reloads, the process repeats
i could save a little bit of client bandwidth and time if i stored it in localstorage too.
but... i'd rather just pull it down each time
06:14
Kevin, you got a minute so I can pick your brain? Choosing a technology stack for an app
a minute, yea
was just about to shut down!
ok ill be quick
I'm looking to build a system that consumes incoming alerts. likely in a couchdb. I want the UI to refresh the moment a new alert comes in. need to choose my tech stack for it
I'm thinking vuejs + ?
maybe express or socket.io?
I've written a socket.io chat app before
personally, i'd use express even if using socket.io
just a good tool to have available :p
sorry not sure socket.io and express fill the same gap
is socket.io still the best for things like that
past that, websockets would allow for the realtime updates pretty easily
06:16
websockets would be browser based?
so I'd need a lib to make sure I do it right probably?
my last app that used websockets was quite a while ago, but i used express with socket.io to do it
not my area...
they can both run from the same node app
I also saw this pubkey.github.io/rxdb
but socket.io isnt the only tool in the shed that implements websockets now
06:17
but i don't need the app offline, so seems like itd be pointless
yeah i was wondering if anything better than socket.io came along. ill probably just use it
okay thank you sir
have a good night
goodnight
Looks like theres a few options. Might look into it more
06:37
Hellow.
\o
oi
what's the male equivalent of twat for genitalia insults?
Has anyone here ever used Matlab?
thinking about keeping twatter to just 2 insults, rather than the variety I had before. Brand awareness or whatever
then I'll slowly roll out more insults?
06:45
@towc Hmm, how about empty balls?
lol
@taco vuejs + express + socket works quite well! Consider using native WebSockets btw
@Shrek too long :P
"dick" would be ok, but for some reason I want this to be somewhat kid-safe
I have been using Native WS
@towc thanks, your input makes me feel better
and most kids don't know what twat means, but they'll sitll giggle at dick
@taco ouch
06:46
They are extremely good, i did opt-in to using a service to take the hosting though.
wut
I assume that was sarcastic
no
oh
ok then
@towc it's "tunk"
06:47
Though now I've lowered my opinion of your input :d
@JennaSloan I have never heard of that 0.o which might be a good thing
@taco definitely should
j/k
@towc nah, don't let impostor syndrome fool ya :p
> twatter
> insults about genitalia
> children safe
XD
either way, I have some experience with that, so if you encounter any problems you have some support back here in room 17 ;)
@KamilSolecki it makes sense if you think long and hard about it
my reasoning is, if it gains any traction at all, I kinda want it to reach current media. And they'll try to get as wide an audience as possible, so if the story isn't really safe for children, there's a higher chance they'll ditch it
and twat is great for that
git is popular
completely different mechanic, but works
note the little things like git blame instead of more friendly things
well, that might be the only unfriendly naming in git, other than the name itself
and by unfriendly I mean aggressive
@Loktar Happy Birthday! ✨🎈🎊🇺🇸🎂🎂🎂🦅🥂✨
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