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8:00 PM
@MadaraUchiha I know, but I mean how it is viewed now
by the masses
of "good programers"
 
jQuery still pushes the interent years ahead
today
 
L33T
 
jQuery is outdated, just like IE6 and framesets.
 
@forresthopkinsa I've worked with Java for more than 2 years, and I dislike it for a lot of reasons. But it all stems from the fact that you work for the compiler/language/vm, instead of those tools working for you.
 
just minor bugs(well defacto) design standars
 
8:01 PM
all of them made the web a more rich place
they all deserve some respect
 
it's got a similar design philosophy to Go
 
It's only very recently started to change, with inferred types, lambdas, etc. But that's too little, and waaaaaay too late.
 
I agree. I love jQuery to an extent but not for anything major
 
prohibit developers from doing implicitly stupid things so that teams can work with idiots
 
@forresthopkinsa You can do great and terrible things with Java
 
8:02 PM
actually I wouldn't use it at all anymore, but I still maintain some
 
sure but it's a lot easier to do something really stupid without even having a clue with JS
 
Or have you never seen code with sun.misc.unsafe before?
I will give you that though
When Java code looks bad, you want to kill someone. When JS code looks bad, you mostly want to kill yourself.
 
I've mostly been able to avoid Java until this job
 
@MadaraUchiha genius code... They just wrote genius code...
 
@rlemon Clojure: Deliver a JAR, no one has to know.
 
8:03 PM
@MadaraUchiha it's not real java code, just syntax
PLC 'languages' are just java
 
@DavidKamer Whenever I hear that word, I get freaking shivers. "The guy you're replacing, he was a genius"
 
@MadaraUchiha If you write geniu$ code than no one can copy it anyway
 
@MadaraUchiha "we don't know how he got it to work, but man was he a genius"
 
Okay I have no screen what is the best way to select a wifi network to connect to?
I am using Synergy
with a computer with out a screen
 
8:05 PM
I've written a few lines of G3niu$ c0d3 in my day lmao
 
Objective-C is worse then Java IMO
 
@William You need to find a cable that has HDMI written on it
 
@William By far.
 
@MadaraUchiha only because of Microsoft
(flame war begins)
 
@DavidKamer my computer doesn't have an HDMI, or VGA. Only a display port
mini display port*
 
8:07 PM
@William well just get an hdmi cable and a display port adapter
just add another adapter
 
Every problem in computer science can be solved by adding another layer of indirection.
 
hdmi -> hdmi/displayport => displayport/minidisplayport
 
@DavidKamer yeah that doesn't exactly work for my use case
its kinda hard to explain
 
@MadaraUchiha You took g3n1u$ c0d3 101 too?
 
I mean yes once it does but doing that everytime is annoying
my best idea is to maybe
list the wifi networks alphanumerically
 
8:09 PM
@William I would suggest programming a custom AI that will sense your brain waves to automatically know with 0 input when to connect to a wifi network..
 
and then I can use the number with out a screen to select the wifi network
and then type in a password
 
@William what os?
 
Ubuntu
 
You have a terminal?
How can you even use a computer without a display? I'm lost...
 
@DavidKamer do you know what Synergy is?
 
8:11 PM
let me google
a KVM?
 
its a rather weird use case of synergy but does wel work
synergy lets you control multiple computers over wifi/etherent using one main computer
in this case that main computer doesnt' have a display
 
@William you should probably just make a bash script and run it at startup
 
yes I can but the problem is the wifi networks change
so I need a way to insure it is on the same one as my other computers
 
have it pull from somewhere
 
pull from somewhere prior to be on the wifi?
 
8:13 PM
check for password updates with a .env file or maybe an encrypted database
You don't get a warning?
 
the better solution IMO is to figure out a way to enter the wifi needed information through keyboard only
 
Whoever changes the wifi probablly also works in IT so just have them push the password before hand
 
I have other computers that I can connect to the wifi
 
Synergy just lets use your mouse and keyboard with multiple machines
 
I just connect those first make sure the password is right
that's correct
 
8:14 PM
It doesn't make one big computer from other computers
 
@ex080 so weird imaging?
 
@david idk what that is
 
why wouldn't you just make an image?
 
Basically forwards your mouse and keyboard input across diff computers
image of what?
 
Imaging is the process of building a computer image
 
8:16 PM
I meant it doesnt aggregate memory, storage, and cpu
 
you then flash that image onto multiple computers
 
Yes
i think there is a miscommunication
 
i understand images, iso etc.. but i thought we were talking about synergy
 
Does the mouse do the same thing on all the computers in a weird attempt to make them all behave the same?
 
8:17 PM
no
 
I guess I just don't get the point then lol
 
it's like extended display
Say u have two computers
 
So it is a way to remote into a computer
 
hey guys. after I do throw "error message", no code below is executed in the try block, right?
new to js
 
but less versitile
 
8:17 PM
pretty much
 
@good_evening correct
the catch block will continue execution
 
okay my next idea is to ssh into the machine using bluetooth
 
@William what are you trying to do?
 
thanks @DavidKamer
 
8:19 PM
@good_evening you're welcome!
 
@ex080 I have a computer essentially think a laptop with no screen that I am trying to insure connects to the same wifi as my other computers so Synergy works correctly.
 
@William Do you have physical access to the machine?
 
of course. I am trying to do this without wires though
 
Yeah, I have this problem with my PI all the time
all u have to do is scan ur local network
ssh into machine
install vnc
and assign static ip
problem solved
 
chicken and egg though
 
8:21 PM
@ex080 no the wifi networks change
once it is connected you can deterimen the computer based on mac address
 
Ok identify by mac then ssh in
then steps 2-7
 
@William I don't think it is secure to ssh through bluetooth imho
 
@ex080 how do you ssh into a machine that isn't connected to anything?
you seem to misunderstand
the wifi networks change
meaning I can't preselect/autoconfig it
 
damn
ethernet?
 
script that looks for a file on a usb with a certain signature and then copies a value into network manager for that wifi network and connects
 
8:23 PM
Purchase a NIC and set it to station mode
 
I am trying to avoid cables but of coruse
 
just plug in the usb and it will update your wifi
or connect your phone hotspot as the second network
it will switch over to that automatically when the wifi resets or when the wifi is off and yoru hotspot is on
then ssh through the interent or through your phone to it
 
Yeah david is right u need another network
a NIC will do
 
or a magic script and usb to update the wifi password
 
I'm not messing with wifi when that is the goal to connect to something else
It's kinda backwards to do it that way
 
8:25 PM
what connect to a fallback network to reconfigure?
 
either I enter everything through the keyboard blind
or use bluetooth
 
ok bl it is
blind has too many variables
 
It's a one time setup to have a fall back network
 
blind could work
just like them in alphabetacial order
press 1-9
type in password if needed
 
I don't htink it is possible to ssh over bluetooth
 
but like. why?
you put your configs on the pi then boot it
 
oh it was just an example of bluetooth
Not my specific situation
 
yeah that is totally less work than just connecting a second wifi network and using that to type in a password with something like teamviewer
 
well for a pi, you can't
you have to put the ssh file and wifi config on the card then boot
 
lol david
open up a serial terminal
 
8:31 PM
are there any laptops that have 2 operating systems?
like so you can switch between windows and linux without a virtual machine?
 
@William mine
lol
 
like 2 cpus,
 
Ubuntu and Windows 10
oh, i don't think so
 
not WSL
WSL is like having all the bugs/features of linux/windows rolled into 1
 
@William not mine
 
8:33 PM
david mine, not mine, your statements aren't clear
 
I have two seperate hard drives and the hard drives don't mount for each other
 
do you have 2 cpus?
 
@William no one does
It is less real than a unicorn
 
what is your software that you are running?
 
I have a kvm switch, basically the same thing :D
 
8:35 PM
@William for what? Running two OS's? I just dual boot but I don't have bugs from it
 
dual booting is what I have done
 
@William I just boot into two separate SSD's and have disabled mounting for the windows drive in Ubuntu and put my ubuntu drive offline in Windows. I use the bios loader to boot and I used to leave secure boot enabled when I booted windows, but I don't care anymore so I leave it off. I have two spereate boot loaders on two sperate drives and I actually had to remake the windows bootloader by hand because windows hates you
Yeah, I had a problem where I couldn't update with windows because of moving to an ssd. I ended up having to manually create bootloader for windows and maybe that is why it works so well for dual boot lol
 
dual booting should work well
its native
someone should create an ubuntu distro where everything is basically an electron app
well all the config options anyways
so you can run it decently compared to X11
 
@William Did you hear about Steam play/Proton?
 
@DavidKamer yes I don't play video games
so kinda irrelevant to me
 
8:44 PM
It's sort of relevant to anyone who has to dual boot. Just one step closer to no need for windows
 
unless there is something more to know
@DavidKamer windows will never die
no need for windows will never happen
 
@William I didn't say it won't be wanted or used, just not needed
 
my schools work system only allows you to connect to the wifi with windows for security issues
I have tried to work around it
it is polling the server constantly and would be a pain to reverse engineer
 
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@William Be a good boy. Use services in the manner you agreed to.
 
@LuckyKleinschmidt thats the kicker there is no user agreement page being the work network
 
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8:46 PM
Connecting to the network is the agreement
 
the IT staff told me they don't care but don't know know how to get around it
 
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It's implicit
 
okay don't do that then
okay
 
@William wow that sentence just blows my mind
"Let's make our network less diverse, with Windows, so that it won't get viruses"
wow
not like a vm with a special ip route couldn't be vector
 
meh
 
9:08 PM
Does anyone else use a git cheat sheet or am I just a noob
 
i mean... i do occationally use git help
kinda the same thing?
 
Maybe lol
mine is definitely worse... using a pdf
 
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@LuckyKleinschmidt That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: test, greet
 
wait, do I own that?
I kinda recall talking about it
 
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9:44 PM
Idek
 
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Update on the amazon problem: Seller says Amazon won't contact them back either
Seller personally went and found the box I needed and paid to put it on a truck for Monday
 
feedback for amazon: YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!
 
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Now I jst hope he sent me the "smart" speaker and I don't end up with 2 "dumb" ones.
 
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@rlemon fr
 
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1 job, 3 chances
 
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11:46 PM
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