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2:00 PM
no script can break that
 
@Neoares Hmm?
 
can anyone help me with client side prection
prediction*
 
prect your client side any time
 
My client side is prect
 
@MadaraUchiha that you realize about the important bits in the video
like the man dropping his glasses
 
2:01 PM
ur mom is prect
8
 
kek
 
for the record: this behaviour is not encouraged
but it's hilarious
 
thanks dad
 
^
 
dude was just welcomed a minute ago now he's already got 5 stars under his belt
 
2:02 PM
no, please don't ping people
 
we're witnessing a legend
 
yer a legend 'arry
 
Hey just wondering if there was a short hand to adding a single property of the same name to another object. food = {type:'pizza'}; topping = {type:'cheese'}; newObject = { [food.type] = { [topping.type] } } which would equal {pizza: {type: 'cheese'}}
 
Scott Sterling in da house
 
Jemiloii posted and I immediately thought it was ikari
 
2:03 PM
wat do those stars do?
 
@badboy24 pro tip: don't do that in any other room
specially in the python one
 
@jemiloii like destructuring? can you use es6?
 
@badboy24 For now nothing, but you'll wake up just for getting them someday.
 
@badboy24 they give you discounts for PC components
 
@ssube yeah i can use es6
 
2:03 PM
@ssube well, reverse destructuring
structuring.
 
^
 
Object.assign({}, { [foo]: { [bar] : baz }});
maybe
 
although what you have might be the shortest way
dynamic keys always make things a bit ugly
 
@Wietlol Why are you using a language with fundamental design decisions you don't agree with?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was hanging with Shai Reznik and Elad Bezalel and Uri Shakes in Vegas this week!
 
2:04 PM
@Neoares :P
 
@MadaraUchiha i am not
 
i need to finish my game before 26th
 
Then why do you hate it so much?
 
ok, I am
 
so ples help me with precdiction
 
2:04 PM
then stop being such a bad boy
 
but I am not using JavaScript
 
Welcome to javascript chatroom, where the lines are made up and the stars don't matter.
 
Well, it's my two weeks are officially in folks.
 
ples help him with prects
 
@badboy24 what prediction? where's the code?
 
2:05 PM
@Trasiva Congrats
 
github?
 
and where's ssube's money?
 
@Trasiva start planning your exit prank
 
@badboy24 are we supposed to prect your repository URL also?
 
@ssube Oh, I've already got that planned, lol.
 
2:05 PM
quitting is like graduating, you gotta prank em
 
like burning the place down. Always a good prank.
 
the best prank
 
The server monitor is set up to send 150 emails at 2am saturday morning to the owners.
 
Oh ho ho
 
2:06 PM
eh, what
 
nobody will get hurt, mountain rules baby
 
best prank, drop out of high school, still manage to become more successful than the people who hated you in high school
got em
 
@Trasiva You should send exactly 3 e-mails to the systems administrator
 
@ssube well atm i need to do food = {type:'pizza'}; topping = {type:'cheese'}; newObj = {[food.type]: {type: topping.type}} I guess no short haha. thanks though :)
 
2:06 PM
my high school senior class pranks were quite good, imo
 
@Neil Nope, shotgun blast of 150 emails saying "I love you."
 
First one will show "PRODUCTION SERVER SHUTDOWN IN 3 MINUTES", second one "PRODUCTION SERVER SHUTDOWN IN 2 MINUTES", the third one "PRODUCTION SERVER SHUTDOWN IN 1 MINUTE."
 
@Neil but all sent at once, like they got backed up
 
way to give a systems administrator a heartattack I suppose
 
send bitcoins to ....
 
2:08 PM
0xA7140BA830F812E92A7140BA830F812E92
 
depends on the quality of your ops
 
mi dps is high
 
average quality
 
ideally if a box goes missing, a new one shows up about the same time things start beeping
 
ples
 
2:08 PM
but realistically...
 
@MadaraUchiha my issue with JavaScript is mainly that I dislike the loose typed design.
next to that, javascript was originally designed to be ~5 lines long at max, but grew to a language where you put your entire application in (SPA) This results in really cranky code being pasted all over the place, without any system to normalize functionality or standardize the apis, we make write-only applications that you can never touch again and you (as developer) think it is the right way because you got it from stackoverflow
 
@badboy24 If you ask a more specific question someone may be able to help or give you some search terms.
 
@jemiloii We have a very common helper function for that in our codebase :P
More than 1 actually
	__envelope( entity, name ) {
		const wrap = {};
		wrap[ name ] = entity;

		return wrap;
	}
 
@Luggage do u know anything about client side prediction. if u do then please mail me
 
Something like that usually
 
2:10 PM
does putting something like that (with a dynamic key name) in a function prevent that function from being optimized?
at least for return type opts
 
@badboy24 What's your postal address?
 
how clever is the hidden type system when it comes to string-key-differentiated types?
 
@jemiloii If there is a shorter way, I'd like to know as well :D Mostly out of curiosity though
 
i dontt have a postal address
 
then how do you get mail
 
2:11 PM
but i do have email. its is gmail.com
 
It’s 9:11
 
in the wrong part of the world
 
its 16:11
 
it's 10:12
 
no, its 16:12
 
2:12 PM
I read somewhere that in Japan, they don't name streets
I thought how strange that was
 
yo @OliverSalzburg
 
in japan they go off of landmarks relative to where the bombs dropped
 
Im using it
 
@rlemon i have pruuf
 
@Neil don't need street signs when they can walk to the corner and ask your mom
 
2:12 PM
 
@KamilSolecki it?
 
@KamilSolecki lol stole it, no DRM get rekt nerd
 
@ssube ;_;
 
@OliverSalzburg use that as avatar now
 
2:13 PM
my picture is larger.
case closed
 
would be a nice circle jerk
 
@KamilSolecki That is a counterfeit seal and you know it!
 
...
 
@badboy24 uhm...
 
when you yawn and it cramps your jaw, those are the moments I realize that God is dead.
 
2:13 PM
waiting for Oliver to oracle the shit out of Kamil
 
badboy, best to not do it anymore. Please keep it civil.
 
@badboy24 if you return, try acting like a normal person.
 
it's 16:13, you idiot @Wietlol
 
we got a real badboy here
(where does that quote come from?)
 
@rlemon they won't for 30 minutes
 
2:14 PM
neoares... do not star him lol
 
@Luggage yea I saw.
 
@hilli_micha I thought I was the only one to have that happen to me
 
@Wietlol The real quote is "Look out, we got a badass over here".
 
ow damnit
 
@OliverSalzburg so will I get an extension update today? :P
 
2:14 PM
except that wasn't his name...
 
Also, poor spelling, amirite?
 
please star me so I can feel important because my wife left me and my dog stole my chicken dinner
 
@badboy24 can you please rename to "badass24"?
 
@KendallFrey Yeah, I'll build it at home
 
@ndugger stars have carbs, choose wisely
 
2:15 PM
oh, sorry
 
his dog stole his chicken dinner.. he needs the carbs
 
@rlemon he got kicked?
 
I kicked him
 
ow
 
then he got flag banned
 
2:15 PM
ow x2
 
but I suspect a mod validated it
because it was a super fast flag ban
 
your banner appeared exactly as I hit the button :(
 
Whoa, ouch, I didn't even see the flag worthy comment, I thought he was just being slightly goofy
 
and then it added my rejection banner
 
Error: Luser too slow
 
2:17 PM
@hilli_micha that would insult Goofy D;
 
@OliverSalzburg are you sure its counterfeit? Cause it clearly says it isnt
 
can you put SecuROM on there? thanks
 
it says it twice, so it must be true
 
> not not counterfeit counterfeit
!!true = true
 
l2column
 
2:18 PM
also please make sure that picture has a constant connection to Ubisoft's UPlay service for functionality
 
@KamilSolecki try to align the green text better
 
if you ever go offline, a modal with a backdrop should appear
 
@Wietlol ReferenceError: Invalid left-hand side in assignment
 
!true == false
!false == true
!!true == true
!!>true == true
@rlemon -_-
unban me!
 
true
true
true
I am a teapot.
 
2:21 PM
No
 
!!s/n/r/
 
@Neoares urban me! (source)
 
!!urban wietlol
 
@KamilSolecki No definition found for wietlol
 
womp womp
 
2:22 PM
indeed, he need to get urban
 
@rlemon but I had a legitimate use for cap
 
I mean, to be fair, if someone just told me "unban me!" in that fashion, I'd probably say no too.
 
@Wietlol so? you were told last time you asked. I didn't ban you
why would I unban you?
 
it was ssube
 
what is this chrome "software reporting tool"
eating my CPU
 
2:24 PM
 
stop spying google
 
take it up with one of them
 
wait
mine was to check if he was banned
 
yeah take it up with @Wietlol, @Wietlol
 
I made a strawpoll for this occasion
 
2:25 PM
@Neoares nope, all responsibility is on you now
 
eh rlemon, then wietlol should talk with himself too
 
@Mosho freezes due to circular reference
 
my point is that I'm not going to unban people just because I host the bot account. the person who banned you had their reason, and its upto them to unban you
pinging me won't do anything
 
!!giphy fuck fuck fuck
!!undo
 
I thought that giphy was gonna go way worse.
 
2:27 PM
!!undo x2
 
@hilli_micha I think it can't
so, I have a gif in mind
 
rlemon, why is the undo RO exclusive?
 
but cap doesn't agree with me
 
could be useful for me eg
 
@rlemon do you have to do x"number"? I thought it was just undo number
 
2:27 PM
or me
 
@KamilSolecki xCount or ~Skip
 
they want a RO to know if you fucked it up
 
eh neoares, you could start by not doing that quickly. That undo command came too quick after that :P
 
@KarelG didn't waht that gif
I wanted this but as a gif
you know the video
 
2:28 PM
that is a bad taste
 
as a response to ssube
@KarelG not really :(
 
Undo being RO exclusive seems like one of those things that was available to everyone at one point, but then someone fucked the pooch and they had to take the toy away.
 
@KamilSolecki Weird...
 
@hilli_micha it makes sense
 
@rlemon iDunno, @ssube you banned me?
 
2:29 PM
no pooh for me? :(
 
@Zirak make this work plx
skip AND count in one
 
user1596138
Oh my god lol
 
or specify which ones to skip and which ones to hammer
 
@Wietlol we went over this yesterday, didn't we? it was for telling Cap to forget forget
 
2:30 PM
like: ooxoxxxoox
 
@KamilSolecki kek
 
and you can be unbanned when you promise not to anymore
 
user1596138
user image
3
 
but then you tried again
 
I did primisi
 
user1596138
2:31 PM
I got a square when I was like 14 so Idk apparently that was my name
 
user1596138
I have no idea
 
@Jhawins lol
 
user1596138
But I'm dying
 
@ssube i tried again before you told me not to do it
to see if cap was still ignoring me
 
@ssube if a RO ran forget forget would it get rekt? Is it stored in memory?
 
2:31 PM
@Jhawins You were a paragon of good decision making when you were a 14 year old I see.
 
you could do that with something else ....
like !!> 1+1
 
@KamilSolecki it's implemented in cap's hardwares
 
user1596138
I didn't want the account just the free hardware so yea I prob jus put bogus garbage
 
@KamilSolecki i suppose it would only work for commands learned by !!learn
i mean... that is how it should work
 
@Wietlol yeah I know
 
2:32 PM
it should also work if I tell it to... @ssube <.<
 
@Jhawins we agree you were under 16... yahoo.com lol
 
@Jhawins pretty golden
 
that's a proof
 
You'd think that, at some point, they may've pulled back the curtain and cleaned house a little on that.
 
user1596138
Everybody needs a Yahoo so you can be reminded every 3 days that Gmail doesn't have constant outages
 
2:34 PM
my yahoo email address was blitz_2234@yahoo.com
I was a cool kid
 
gonna send you an e-card
 
the only email I've had that wasn't my name was beans38
 
heh, I used to add a bunch of 69s
 
nice
 
@Neoares xXx_69Neoares42069_xXx
 
2:36 PM
Shit like xx_Alucard_xx is the stuff my 13 year old mind came up with
 
@KamilSolecki password: pussydestroyer69
 
one of my friends older brothers used to call me raw-beans instead of robbie when we played street hockey.
it quickly because my nick name (beans)
 
typical, trying to be a pussydestroyer but playing Magic The Gathering in playground time
 
I recall having two yahoo mail addresses but cannot enter it anymore
 
Beantastic!
 
2:37 PM
pw and sec keys lost :P
 
message to 15yo Neoares: you don't destroy pussies like that
 
@Neoares best gamertag ever: hymenbuster
 
@KamilSolecki we were also pretty into wrestling and did backyard wrestling. I was "Bean Bomb Jr"
 
@KendallFrey lol
 
2:37 PM
I also quite enjoyed James Bond Jr. on TV at the time
 
@rlemon that does sound cool :D
 
@rlemon a bean bomb sounds bad
 
the bean bomb was my finisher
 
like the outcome of too many tacos
 
didn't steve-o get bean bombed on an episode of jackass and then start vomitting uncontrollably?
 
2:38 PM
@ssube less exciting. I stood on a chair and cannon balled into your chest
 
s/too many/the correct amount of/
 
@rlemon "Turn the rear, and leave them smeared!"
 
@Wietlol disregarding loose typing, which is a completely valid design decision that served JavaScript well over the years (I refuse to see it as a language weakness despite how much I like having types with TypeScript)
The notion that JavaScript applications are write only is just plain false
 
what about perl?
 
but many people's JS code is.
 
2:39 PM
Perl is write only, Regex is write only, Bash is write only.
 
bash doesn't have to be
 
applescript is write-only
 
and many people's JS code is on stackoverflow
 
feels like "write only" means "I suck at reading code"
 
so you accept many people's JS code as "the way to do it"
 
2:39 PM
perl, regex, and ruby are write-only
 
@Wietlol stackoverflow is full of newbs that learned how to program 4.2 minutes ago.
 
so many JS developers have this shitty way of programming
 
!!s/JS//
 
@ssube so many developers have this shitty way of programming (source)
 
2:40 PM
that too
 
@rlemon that must smell a bit
 
The language has lots of misgivings, this sucks, the older parts suck,
 
Its not about the language, its about its popularity
 
but most of them are JS developers since most of the new plebs start at JS
 
You can argue about Promise semantics (automatic unwrapping, etc)
 
2:40 PM
I still remember myself showing to some HS chicks the 20€ Magic card I luckily got in a pack
 
But saying that people can't write is just plain false
 
@Wietlol or, you see what you surround yourself with.
 
@MadaraUchiha what is this?
 
I thought I was going to fuck so hard that night
 
The bar is very low and there are a lot of newbs
 
2:40 PM
Is LEGB the scoping rule in JavaScript & TypeScript?
 
the more popular it is, the more shitty devs there are
 
@overexchange I have no idea what LEGB is.
 
@Neoares not serious, are you
or are you
 
@rlemon like what?
 
@Neoares cool story towc, but lay off with the flag bait
5
 
2:41 PM
@Wietlol this is dynamically bound, as opposed to everything else in JS which is lexically bound.
 
I'm not sure how I can make than any more clear.
 
well, TBH I wasn't expecting anything
 
Which is why it is so confusing.
 
you surround yourself with people and languages. of course you get a bias that they make up a majority
 
Local-Enclosing-Global-Builtin
 
2:42 PM
which flag bait :/
 
@overexchange Close
 
why would I bait for a flag lol
 
@Neoares any sexual words
 
@overexchange so... lexical scoping
 
which is like your last 20 messages
 
2:42 PM
^
 
what Kamil said
you're like a bird, always talking about sum fuk
 
@KamilSolecki oh, well
 
he is trying to get some stars it seems
\o/ the despair of having no attention
 
Its generally ok to say VaGiNa in a while, but try not to stretch it ;)
 
it's more likely to bring flags, and we won't invalidate them :)
 
2:43 PM
test message, do not star.
19
 
ha
 
that was so much bait
 
!!giphy just as planned
 
@Neoares and that's how its done.
 
2:43 PM
@Wietlol All you did so far is make vague claims about "all JavaScript code is bad an unreadable" but have not made any concrete claims
 
iseewhatudidthere
 
@MadaraUchiha not everything is bad
 
@rlemon I thought no one will star that lol
 
@CapricaSix wtf cap?
 
so cheap
also, you pinned it
 
2:44 PM
I did no such thing
 
oh lol
 
I did
he said not to star it
 
Whenever I rant about Java, I give concrete reasons why I believe Java sucks
 
so he mega starred it
 
but since the majority of js developers are new plebs, the majority sucks at it.
the majority defines the standard since there is no by default
the standard sucks
 
2:44 PM
resistance if futile
 
@Wietlol What do you care about the majority for?
 
@Wietlol that isn't limited to JS
 
@MadaraUchiha 1) type erasure, 2) FactoryProviderStrategies, 3) type erasure
 
Or you can go learn from @SterlingArcher
he is like a village idiot
 
Find a workplace which values their talents, and work with people who are better than you at it.
 
2:45 PM
@Wietlol well, tc-39 sets the standard
 
odd and weird but funny. That is why we would love him
 
@Wietlol uh, no. You just said you limit your views to those of majority, and in many cases that doesnt really work out well.
 
@MadaraUchiha work with/talk to
 
If people want to wallow in their jQuery 0.9 WordPress feces-esque website, let them
 
@Wietlol That's the same everywhere. Most company's internal app are written by newbs. Think about how many new people come into development every day and how the field grows. Most software is going to be written by people with low experience.
 
2:46 PM
Stop looking at the lowest common denominator and look at the shiny parts that allow for truly beautiful things
 
discussing design patterns and monads and promises here is still super helpful
 
when I can replace "JS" with like a dozen other languages and your complaints still ring true, the point about JS being abhorrent on its own is kinda lost.
 
@Luggage at larger companies, i find that not so often
 
I feel like the argument that "The majority of people are garbage at using a tool, therefore the tool itself sucks" is flawed in its base premise.
 
@Wietlol since Java is your main, be aware that it is used as introduction language to programming. Still there are developers that writes ugly java code. So they suck with it too. That phenomenon is independent of any platform
 
2:46 PM
JS is shit, PHP is shit, Java is shit, Python is shit, all software is shit
 
You purchase an intern online for cheap and assign them to some projects. You get cheap code, maybe not the best, but it works
 
It is your job as a developer to find the gems in the sea of shit
Because welcome to the internet
 
I poop diamonds.
 
@hilli_micha you can write bad code in any language, but a bad language does encourage it
 
Find those gems.
 
2:47 PM
good tools are good
 
@MadaraUchiha i never said Java was different
 
but you still take responsibility
 
I just say PHP and JS do a better job at getting on my nerve
 
I hate taking responsibility.
 
Oh, and in case you haven't yet
 
2:49 PM
@badboy24 stop begging
post a code related question.
or give it a rest
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@Trasiva you don't need to make it worse.
 
We heard you need help with "prediciton", but that's a whole topic. Please be specific about the problem you have.
 
This is a need vs want case though, right?
 
you have to explain what your problem is and what you want to achieve
and ... next time, do not make this kind of fun with names
"peepee"...
 
5 messages moved to Trash can
 
that looks more like a sausage than a "peepee"
 
2:52 PM
Seems that you have an assignment that you are struggling with
do not get frustrated of that
 
@ssube I need to update bulk trash to list users who have messages on screen
 
@KarelG it literally is surviv.io
 
It's some Agar.io derivative for those who didn't want to navigate to a site that says peepee
 
@MadaraUchiha i said that most of my hate was personal, didnt I?
 
@hilli_micha not at work
 
2:53 PM
@Wietlol There's a difference between personal and unbased
 
@Wietlol this is the internet, you're not allowed to dislike things I like.
 
I have a personal deep hate for Microsoft
 
@KamilSolecki lol. Is he trying to cheat it?
 
It's based on years and years of strife
And they had changed
But I still hate them
 
@KarelG idk
 
2:54 PM
:-/
 
@KarelG I doubt it, looks like he just made a clone.
 
I base my hate on loose typing
 
@Wietlol So don't use languages with loose typing
 
I dont
 
This isn't something to hate JS for
 
2:54 PM
(except SQL)
 
use a script with types
 
jakartaQuery
 
ndugger, how was your experiment with that java 10 api ?
 

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