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2:01 PM
oh god lmao
> you're welcome, bro
 
@Luggage Maybe. I'm not very good at VMware, fair warning.
 
I d/led a VMDK (vmware) image and realized I forgot to add a new admin account. I would prefer not having to d/l it again for a few reasons. I can convert it to virtualbox VDI (it won't mount as-is) and then make the account, but I don't know if that'll screw up anythign in linux to be started with differnt hardware (not sure how different the environment between vmware and virtualbox are)
 
I'm just over here copying and trying to start a prod replica of a sql dump. It's... slow.
@Luggage that converter usually fails :(
 
that converter worked for me. it boots
I only get errors about expectd things (like remote mounts not being available)
 
that is what it uses - Sammy.Template: Extracted from Sammy’s core, this is a wrapper around John Resig’s simple templating engine and Greg Borenstein’s $.srender
 
2:03 PM
Why does it make a difference what format the container is, when you want to create a user account?
 
The only part linux really remembers and cares about are the network devices and disks.
 
yea. network device is the likely issue all around. I also want to fix the fact that it's a static ip
 
If you gave it devices with the same addresses (MAC or otherwise), it shouldn't notice at all.
@OliverSalzburg can't create an account unless you can boot the machine
 
i didn't check that but maybe the vmx has the mac address..
 
@Luggage ifconfig on the box you imaged?
 
2:04 PM
yup
 
or that
 
@ssube I'm clearly misunderstanding the problem here :P
Why not just start it in VMWare though?
 
i'd have to buy a vmware license
which i did, but vmware are assholes and charge you for upgrades
 
lol
 
I refuse to pay $80 / year
 
2:05 PM
IIRC VMWare is free
 
I got rid of my MSDN license a few years ago and have been paying for Workstation ever since
 
Or, let's say, there are free versions
 
Player should still have a free one
 
the player is free
vmware fusion, what I need, is not
 
I was thinking of ESXi
 
2:06 PM
there goes apple, breakin stuff :P
ooh, yeah, you could install vbox and put esxi in that
 
Or vSphere? I actually don't know which one is the one to use. But this perfectly illustrates the issue now that I think about it :D
 
but that will take as long as shipping the image again
@OliverSalzburg vSphere is the console and intelligence for ESXi.
 
Ah, thanks
 
Xen == KVM == ESXi == Hyper-V. AWS == OpenStack == vSphere == Azure
 
AWS uses xen, right?
 
2:08 PM
I think so
 
ohh, you mean the front end
 
for completeness
 
o.O they're not equal
 
although technically you can run OpenStack on ESXi, and AWS can take over machines, and all the other hybrid cloud stuff.
 
or are they ?
 
2:09 PM
@KarelG equivalent :)
 
whta's not equal?
 
@SomeGuy noice! thanks man
 
tbf, never heard of OpenStack and Xen <.<
 
OpenStack is a pretty cool piece of software, it's just a huge pain to run at scale. You can install devstack on your laptop and get most of the features.
 
this data center reset my password (at my requst) to "change me" (with a few characters swapped) and they have a policy that you can't change the password again for 24 hours
I made them choose a new password.
wtf.
 
2:12 PM
haha
sorry but couldn't resist
 
man, i can't wait to get away from this ticking bomb
 
> We have barbwire fences, 24/7 surveillance, 3 power supplies, and 9 character passwords.
one of those things is not right
 
where did you took that quote from ?
 
those first 3 are standard issue datacenter features, the last one is ^^^^^
I'm making fun of their security, which I assume is otherwise decent
 
@rlemon the wife scare, it shouldn't be so funny...
 
2:15 PM
this time they did it right and it forced me to change the password when i signed into the vpn
 
@KendallFrey lol
 
the fact that that is inconsistent it not good, though
 
@ssube non IT savy people and passwords ....
123456 is still in top 3
:|
So they just get another number: 654321
(which is in top 10 last year >.> )
 
maybe i should pay for vmware. It doesn't run at constant 100% cpu like virtualbox does
 
virtualbox at 100% ? o.O
never got that
 
2:17 PM
with a windows guest, at least.
 
vbox is the slowest of the bunch, by far
 
true. but 5 years ago, VMWare was crap :P
 
Is there some chrome extension that injects javascript and lets me code on top of a live page?
 
vmware is good, it occasionally struggles for my purposes, but I should really be on a xeon
parallels is pretty fast on macs, all our devs use that
 
I need a windows VM just because i need the windows client to d/l images from vSphere.
everything is more complicated than it needs to be.
 
2:20 PM
are you not making it complicated ? 😀
 
part of it.. but right now i'm just trying to go back into vSphere to check some things
which means a vpn on my mac, then boot windows in a vM, then start vsphere shitty client
This is the ONLY thing I use a windows VM for.
i haven't booted it in a year as I'vebeen able to do most of what i need through the web interface
but that stopped working since it needs flash
in the time of AWS and google could, this is too much hassle
or I'm just a needy little bitch. Not sure which
 
@rlemon when did you do this one >_< i.stack.imgur.com/eMpwN.jpg ?
 
when you got old and bald
 
THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HOW I LOOK NOW
except the skin looks older
 
why do you look old and bald?
 
2:33 PM
because he's old and bald
 
oh great new instagram trend: "hipdips"
 
Is it a sexy trend?
 
depends of how you see at females
 
Generally, in favor
 
it's same as "embracethesquish" or that saturday cellulite thing
 
2:38 PM
@ssube probably the pollution here, almost everyone I know looks older than their age
 
females should be happy with their own body. If they feel good in the current state of their own body, then it's OK. They don't have to be that skinny like those fitnessers or that you see in the advertisements
 
@KendallFrey you see the new mun landing pics? someone found them in an archive, they're from like 1972 i.redd.it/v39e0csxd26z.jpg
 
@rlemon should I buy ksp
 
of course
 
@KamilSolecki do you like rockets?
 
2:40 PM
This looks like it was doctored by NASA. Look at all the artifacts
FAKE
 
@Loktar ive spent >600h on gmod spacebuild server
 
@Loktar it's so much more than just rockets now
 
@KamilSolecki you should
 
@rlemon that's still the core of it though right?
Creating space faring vehicles
 
rockets and planes yea
 
2:41 PM
@rlemon so, with all of SpaceX's launches, I've been playing with my own satellite launch design: imgur.com/a/gbMzh
 
KSP has I guess 3 main concepts
 
simple rockets is also pretty cool when you're bored
 
modders went stupid crazy, the game is like 1000 different games now
 
I've got a third version now, with monoprop on the satellites to change course after deploying
 
@ssube I do that as well.
 
2:42 PM
hmm, its on sale
 
I stack them and release
 
Building rockets, flying rockets, and navigating the system. Some people might not like all three.
 
@KendallFrey crashing rockets
 
That said, I absolutely recommend it
 
2:42 PM
planes, space stations, resource management
 
@ssube subcategory of flying rockets
 
I'd get it just to support the devs since they are pretty great
 
USI mods make it pretty hardcore
 
I built a helicarrier the other day, with a pair of large fuel tanks and 4 corner-mounted engines
 
ohh and you can make boats too
 
2:43 PM
and trucks
 
ok bought it
 
so planes, cars, boats, rockets, stations, etc.
 
@Loktar Except it supports Squad, which is generally a shitty company
 
helicopters, robots, yadda yadda
 
@KendallFrey huh?
 
2:43 PM
Ya know, i don't like adding those vehicles
 
nothing was added
 
@KarelG well, you're building the vehicles
 
by mods ...
 
people figured out how to work with the mechanics they gave you
 
so you can attach whatever bits you want
 
2:44 PM
@Loktar You never heard about all the issues they had with the KSP team?
 
@KarelG mods add more parts
 
I regularly go science farming by building a huge science truck with a bunch of labs and a rocket engine
 
@KendallFrey no actually, I don't follow them too closely though
 
which mods should I grab?
 
Squad just bled KSP till they figured it was time to sell
@KamilSolecki mech jeb to start
get a handle on the vanilla game
 
2:45 PM
I play vanilla
 
What do you call the area on your face b/w the eyes and hair?
 
I'm not good enough yet to do mods
 
I use texture mods, USI mods, and a few other parts mods
 
@Shrek 4head
 
@ssube forehead
 
2:45 PM
@Shrek depends on how tall it is, but anything from a 1 to 9-head
 
Are the original devs Squad?
 
No not that way
 
Or did they find some different publisher?
 
towards the direction of the ears
 
@Loktar Basically, there were hints about terrible working environment for quite a while, and one day like half (idk how many) of the dev team left all at once. Obviously couldn't say why, but... yeah.
 
2:45 PM
sideburns?
 
Is there any way in react to bind to componentWillUnmount so that I can abort ajax calls without having to create a componentWillUnmount?
 
temple?
 
temple
 
@KendallFrey why the hell did they go under a publisher?
 
@Shrek temple
 
2:46 PM
Also there was an anonymous "incriminating" AmA from a former KSP dev I think
@Loktar I don't get what you mean
 
Squad is the dev/publisher right?
 
Ok thanks
 
but iirc they've always been indie
 
they're a marketing company
 
and the devs were also the publishers
 
2:46 PM
You realize Squad is not a game developer, right?
 
so they sold themselves or what?
 
Squad made KSP as a side project
 
it was a free demo thing originally
 
@ssube not always
I bought it from their site before it was on steam
 
it was a project of one of the devs they picked up iirc
 
2:47 PM
HarvesteR/Felipe came up with the idea and convinced Squad to let him build it, and it blew up on them
 
or that ^
 
and did they work for Squad?
 
Yeah
 
but yea, always struck me as odd that the best space sim game (imo) was made and maintained by a marketing company
 
... idk I need to read up on this, this is confusing since it's marketed as an indie game and always has been
 
2:48 PM
yeah. If I was the devs, I would be super excited to sign with a real game publisher.
 
@Loktar if you're not a game publisher, but your company does other things, wouldn't it still be indie?
 
It's an indie game in the sense that it wasn't produced by an established game studio, but it wasn't produced by a game development company at all
 
@rlemon thus muddying what indie is
> An independent video game (commonly referred to as an indie game) is a video game that is created without the financial support of a publisher. Indie games often focus on innovation and rely on digital distribution.
 
The problem pretty much comes down to Squad being woefully unable to manage development of an explosively viral game.
 
in my day Indie games were made by a few people who put it out on their own without any backing from any financial institution
 
2:51 PM
@Loktar see the SNES mini release announcement?
 
yeah sounds shitty
 
I'm saddened they didn't make it more realistic
 
@KendallFrey now they just get to fade back into being a shitty marketing company and Take Two can run with Kerbals
 
the games on it aren't bad, but the small list is stupid for the price
 
2:51 PM
also, I'd like someone to make a movie Runs With Kerbals
 
eh idk people leave companies I don't feel bad for the devs in this case
there is just a ton of speculation it looks like everywhere
nothing concrete
 
would you want to work for a marketing company?
 
@ssube if it was my job, I guess
 
plenty of woman there
 
but i wouldn't ask to work on my game there :p
 
2:52 PM
so maybe :)
 
and wouldn't want them to take it over either lol
sounds like Squad owns it fair and square which sucks for the original devs
 
they sold it to Take Two recently
 
@Loktar Don't forget the slanderous AmA/expose. I can't recall if it was verified, but if true it's pretty bad.
 
which is a good thing
 
@KendallFrey yeah anonymous stuff though really hard to take it seriously
 
2:54 PM
@KendallFrey I've seen like 3-4 ex squad devs come out complaining about squad
not all were fired, some just left.
one of the guys made mechjeb or one of the other popular mods
maybe it was USI
 
Felipe should have done it on his own
big mistake giving it to his company :/
 
@Loktar He may not have had the resources
 
that whole thing is why I'm very careful not to touch my game project during work hours
no commits, pause the VM, totally hands off so they can never claim ownership
 
@ssube yeah, smart
same here with anything private
 
maybe it wouldn't have happened at all if he hadn't?
 
2:55 PM
so we should thank Squad for the game :p
 
I'll happily work on an npm library on company time or something
 
I try to do that as well, even though I highly doubt they have any ownership
 
The game was made, the game is great, everyone loved the devs and used it as a gold standard for Early Access
I do have some empathy for them though, I mean that really sucks, but can't say I'm surprised. Same thing happened with Dayz as well
 
@Loktar Squad provided the resources to make the game what it is. That's good. Squad also didn't manage the project well and was hard on the devs. That's bad.
 
2:57 PM
But I'm not a fan of Rocket regardless
@KendallFrey yeah sounds like they picked up on how to treat game devs pretty fast
 
What do you mean?
 
lol
@KendallFrey the game industry is a shit job
 
Do you recommend career or sandbox for starters?
 
120 hour weeks, less pay than anyone else, notoriously bad
 
^
So many lawsuits dealing with it too
 
2:58 PM
@rlemon eh sometimes I wonder the physics are valid
 
@KamilSolecki Try Sandbox to at least figure out how to build and get into orbit
 
the thing is people are dying to get in, so if you leave it doesn't matter, someone will gladly fill your spot
 
Someone needs to make a meme for
stickoverflow
 
@ssube That doesn't make it OK
 
well, college kids are dying to get in
 
2:59 PM
not at all, but it's ridiculously common
 
@KendallFrey people encourage it.
 

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