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12:03 AM
very dark
 
welcome to the real world :(
 
omg
@Luggage that signature aspect of mdn has been so useful. I can't believe it's been staring me in the face this whole time and i never noticed it.
 
signature aspect?
 
I beat him into comparing function signatures in MDN to answer his own question.
 
signature where they have the equation for the built in functions
ya it worked because I go to it all the time now
 
12:08 AM
it's not an equation, it's the 'signature'. the number of, type of and order of the arguments
all languages have that
 
@Luggage JS doesn't
except in a made-up sense
 
it's like being able to read hieroglyphics
 
@KendallFrey for the purposes of this it does
 
@Arrow So is all programming
 
ohhi
šŸ 
 
12:10 AM
šŸŒÆ
 
@KendalFrey, I guess. The important thing is that I didn't notice it before, and now I do.
 
Just wait until you discover the rest of the docs on those pages. :)
 
link?
 
google "mdn"
 
@Luggage like what?
 
12:15 AM
um.. like all the other words. The descriptions of the behavior, return value, compatibility concerns
I was calling you out for not reading docs, you see..
sort of a 'pointed joke', if you will.
 
Well i was reading them, but with little effect
you should write a book on how to read doc, I might buy after reading it at barns and Noble
 
I could just fill it with random words
 
what would be the point in that?
 
art
 
the people that get nothing from docs won't read the book. :)
I assume.
 
12:19 AM
exploring the human condition of confusion, frustration and eventually anger
 
I'll call the book "RTFM"
Read This Fucking Manual (on reading manuals)
 
instructions unclear....bought kama sutra
aka the fucking manual
 
lol
 
gah i suck at physics
what is the change in acceleration over time called?
 
acceleration
momentum
 
12:23 AM
nah momentum has mass in it
 
change in acceleration, not change in velocity?
 
yes
so if i went from 10 m/s/s downwards
 
In physics, jerk, also known as jolt, surge, or lurch, is the rate of change of acceleration; that is, the derivative of acceleration with respect to time, and as such the second derivative of velocity, or the third derivative of position. Jerk is a vector, and there is no generally used term to describe its scalar magnitude (more precisely, its norm, e.g. "speed" as the norm of the velocity vector). According to the result of dimensional analysis of jerk, [length/time3], the SI units are m/s3 (or m·sāˆ’3); jerk can also be expressed in standard gravity per second (g/s). == Expressions == Jerk can...
 
hmmm
 
not sure it that is correct for your context..
 
12:24 AM
ok
 
@KendallFrey will know
 
because he is a jerk
 
Yep, it's jerk
 
exactly.
 
I think the next one is most commonly yank
 
12:25 AM
so if there was a collision event where i wanted to measure how bad the collision was
i would display it in gs?
 
gees are one important factor
 
Gs are just acceleration
jerk would be how fast it goes from 0Gs to the max Gs during the impact
well, not jut the time, but related to that
 
I don't think jerk is usually the dangerous part in a high-speed crash
 
yes, agreed
 
i know that one aspect is the change in acceleration but i also need to take into account how long that collision was
 
12:27 AM
gees and total velocity change are
@derp gees already take that into account
 
wait most things do not come to a compleat stop after a collision
they get jerked in the opposit direction
 
when i collide with your mom, I bounce backwards
 
@Arrow That's not jerk though
 
so if i go from 2gs down to 1g upward over the course of 1 second
that would be a collision of 3gs
?
 
9.8 m/s/s/s
 
12:28 AM
why you colliding with my mom. she is not your type. she keeps her luggage in the garage
 
@derp No, that's still 2g peak
 
jerk is related to max G force during a collision because the shorter the duration of the collision (from the same initial velocity) the higher the peak G force
 
The only way jerk injures someone without high gees is if they're not expecting it and they bang their head on something, for example
 
therefor, only the peak Gs are often important
but yea.. going from 0 to 1 g very quickly can cause you to be unprepared
 
you could withstand 10g eyeballs in, but 1000g/s at a peak of 5g could cause a nasty bruise
@Luggage the duration of the peak is important too. 0.001s of 100g is pretty safe
 
12:32 AM
yea.
 
im having issues with my react state. Since it is async if the user changes a value and saves the new value doesnt always get submitted with the form
 
but only because you body can deform enough to absorb that
 
@KendallFrey coudl you explain why it would be 2g peak?
 
@derp Because it starts at 2 and only decreases after that
 
afterall, it goes from 2gs down to 1g up
like the vector changes
because it hit somethign
 
12:33 AM
ohh
 
@derp Yeah, 3g total change, but only 2g peak
 
the jerk is the rate of change
 
-2 to +1
 
maybe i should be displaying the ...shock?
with units of m/s/s?
 
@derp that's still gees
aka acceleration
not aka shock
 
12:35 AM
if it is accelerating at 2g's and then is decelerating at 1 g, then it's just 2 g's max. If you mean it stops and turns around instantaneously, then it's likely more then 2gs max
 
yeah that's the bit i'm trying to articulate
 
it's by definition undefined, if it's instantaneous :P
 
well
 
The dynamics of these phenomena are what distinguish them from the g-forces caused by a relatively longer term accelerations
 
like if i drop a smartphone on carpet
 
12:36 AM
is it bouncing? what provides the acceleration in both directions?
 
that's going to do less damage than dropping it on concrete
 
@derp That's because it experiences more gees
 
For example, a stiff and compact object dropped from 1 m that impacts over a distance of 1 mm is subjected to a 1000 g deceleration.
 
on concrete that is
 
That's falling at 1g (down), then a high spike in Gs in the opposite direction as it bounces, then is still accelerating at 1 g in the same direction (down) as it goes back upwards and falls again
 
12:37 AM
@Arrow 1m != 1m/s, but you're not too far off
 
1 g for a while, then -9999, then 1 g
 
@Luggage falling is 0g
 
from our perspective it's accelerating at 1g downward.
...is what i meant
yes.. technically we are the ones accelerating
 
@Luggage Our perspective isn't what damages the phone
 
but from our perspective the phone is getting 9.8 meters/s/s faster as it travels toward the ground
 
12:40 AM
After a free fall from a height h the shock on an object during impact is h/d g, where d d is the distance covered during the impact
 
@Arrow What is "shock"?
acceleration?
 
would i be able to calculate the max g force if i've only got measurements of acceleration at a set interval?
for example, if i measure the acceleration every second for simplicity's sake
 
A mechanical or physical shock is a sudden acceleration caused, for example, by impact, drop, kick, earthquake, or explosion. Shock is a transient physical excitation.
 
and i go from 9.8g at 0 seconds
and then 0g at 1 second
 
not very accurately
 
12:43 AM
oh shit....0g would be freefall
nuts
so 0g at 0 seconds ...to 9.8g at 1second
that would be 1g?
 
yea, not enough info
coming to a stop over 1 second and in 0.01 seconds is a big difference
 
@Arrow So, a special case of acceleration?
 
yeah i am a bit limited in the interval in which the accelerometer takes measurements
 
Use shock absorbers or cushions to control the shock transmitted to the item. Cushioning reduces the peak acceleration by extending the duration of the shock.
 
more than once per secind, i hope
 
12:45 AM
@derp no, it would be 9.8g
 
but also, you can guess the speed by how long it stays at 0 (in freefall)
 
Did you mean 9.8m/s?
 
yeah sorry, i meant 1g
 
say, it stays at 0g (freefall) for 3 seconds, so you know it's going around 30m/s when it hits.. that's some info
 
because it went from freefall to rest
 
12:48 AM
The coefficient of restitution (COR) is the ratio of the final to initial velocity difference between two objects after they collide.
 
with a g-force reading every 'tick', you can get a range for the minimum and max gs it likely experienced, the shorter the tick the more accurate
er.. sorta.. only because you are assuming that after you start reading a steady 1g you assume that all your freefall velocity is zeroed out
there are a lot of problems with this
 
yeah :/
 
then you won't know if you bounced or just stopped all at once.
(if that matters?)
 
well that depends on the material
too
 
Is there an instrument that measures velocity change? If so, that could potentially give a more accurate g reading than a simple accelerometer
 
12:51 AM
yea.. that matters. i fairly soft drop on the bed might still reach a stop faster than you can read.. and a bounce off a hard surface is much harder.
 
hehehe
 
nah i'm making a game based around throwing your phone on the ground
so its just the simple accelerometers in your phones
 
@derp I hate to break it to you, but that already exists.
 
I won't test your game. Sorry.
 
are you talking about the game based around throwing it up in the air?
 
12:53 AM
yea
 
nah this game isn't based on how high it goes
but rather how hard it goes into the ground
 
um
@Luggage Hmm, now that I think of it, you still need to capture multiple ticks during the deceleration, just fewer of them
 
how about if he was a hot chick would you test his game then?
 
no
 
I was not expecting that
 
12:55 AM
what if you were looking for an excuse to replace an old nexus 4?
 
sell it
 
sell a nexus no way dude!
 
those things are still worth money?
 
@smartereveryday Did you know moving objects get redshifted when moving laterally too because of time dilation.
holy crap i never thought of this
 
turn it into something
 
12:57 AM
i'm turning it into a lonely island game xD
 
what does literally mean exactly? so if I turn my face it becomes red shifted
 
call me a prude, but i am against just damaging working electronics
at least recycle it afterwards
 
will do
 
@Arrow if i was looking out my windows and you were driving down the street past my house, you'd be slightly red-shifted, even if you were traveling past me and not away from me.
 
Luggage you're not prude, you are more of a pedant
 
1:00 AM
but.. not enough at those speeds that we could likely detect it.. I don't know how sensitive our instruments are but that's not much difference
 
Especially since I imagine cars don't have pronounced spectral lines
 
you just look up the color code for "briefcase beige"
 
strange well how about if i was traveling in a rocket vertical from a huge whole in the ground toward the sky passing your house
would I be blue shifted then
 
same thing
no, red.
blue if I was looking down the hole, slightly red as you passed, more red as I looked up at you
even with the rocket it's not fast enough to detect it
you can't go that fast in the atmosphere
 
how about at the point where I am passing your line of sight
time dilation mean red shift right
 
1:03 AM
that's the slightly red part.
in this case it does..
 
So everything is red shifted
 
though.. isn't everyone slow to everyone, what with there being no preferred frame of reference
so everyone is red shifted to everyone unless you are getting closer.. ?
 
so everyone is red shifted to everyone unless they are getting closer, and even then there is a slight red shift offset because of time dilation
 
but the doppler shift will likely stomp all over the time dilation when approaching
the time dilation will be negligible in all but the most extreme cases
 
1:07 AM
crazy so everything is at the center of the universe which is relative
 
Yea, that's basically what "no preferred frame of reference" means.
 
Well that would mean things would have to have perfect symmetry
 
If you get in a ship and get to 99.999999% of the speed of light (relative to earth) and then turn the engines off, you are basically standing still with the universe doing odd things around you. Then you can still (from your in-ship perspective) turn the engines on and accelerate some more.
 
like a crystal lattice
 
from the outside you won't seem to get any faster (eventually it's so small to be unmeasurable), but you'll still gain momentum
(which is why we say things gain mass, I think)
 
1:14 AM
and because we gain mass, it'll take more energy to accelerate
 
from the outside, yes. From the ship's perspective it accelerates at the normal rate
but due to time dilation, the outside sees the ship expending a years worth of energy in a short amount of time (for example)
At least, that's how I interpret it..
 
Well once you hit the speed of light time stops
 
from the ship's perspective, it never does.
from out perspective back on earth, it stops getting faster and just gets more massive
 
you can't hit the speed of light
because it'll take infinite energy to do so
 
true, but the ship can accelerate forever.
from our perspective, the ship just gets more '9's on the 99.99% number.
from it's perspective the universe just gets shorter
5 mins ago, by Luggage
but due to time dilation, the outside sees the ship expending a years worth of energy in a short amount of time (for example)
^ I got this backwards
i think
 
1:25 AM
basically the universe ends as you approach the speed of light
 
1:35 AM
what's really crazy are quasars
@Luggage you will dump your luggage after seeing this
mostly because the music a perfect fit for the information
 
1:59 AM
he forgot your m
I just saw someone with a steam level 1131. wtf.
 
how do i delete files from git staging area?
 
unstage and delete
well, thats how I do it
which is git reset
 
i did git reset .. --hard even
but i think these files were untracked so it had no effect
 
so you have new files that are not in the repo and you want to delete them?
 
2:14 AM
just delete them from the file system
if they arent in the repo yet then git doesnt mind if you delete them
 
2:35 AM
yeah just that thats inconvenient as they are sprinkled through a 1000 file+ project
 
ah
 
i can see them all in the "index" (staging area?) so presumably a git command to delete all those added files would save tons of time
 
that would be
im not a git guru so youve exhausted my knowledge
 
@AlexBollbach you want to unstage all files, or just specific ones?
 
i want to understand the concept. so in this case its all files. but in general i want to know why git / my Proj is in the state it is and how to deal with that.
basically what happened was I added a some files to a project. and i wanted to undo all that work. so I reset --hard to the original branch I was on. after, those files were all still showing after running git status
so i gathered that they were in the "staging area" but not staged/added to index so resetting to that branch did not actually reset the working area to that branch
usually when i reset to a commit with --hard option it will clear the changes i see from git status
its just hard to mentally model all the things going on with git
 
2:42 AM
I think git reset --hard should clear all changes from git status
You might need to run checkout to clear your working directory
I'm seeing apparently conflicting information
 
at one point i ran git reset --hard HEAD
now i hadn't committed any of the added files yet so that surely should have cleared the index
 
Or perhaps git clean is what you need
 
why don't you just delete the whole project and then clone it again? that'll do it
 
but it didn't so i wonder if there was some way the added files were not "un-added" as a function of reseting to that commit (HEAD)
 
Maybe because the files are untracked so git reset doesn't touch them?
 
2:48 AM
@derp
@derp ive done that about 20 times tonight
so git clean then?
that makes sense about reset i was thinking the same thing. i found it very confusing how to proceed from that point though
 
sorry not a git guru either, but i found this?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61212/how-to-remove-local-untracked-files-from-the-current-git-working-tree
 
@AlexBollbach Wait, you clone the repo into a new working directory, and you still end up with uncommitted changes?
 
no no no
but i've been fresh cloning all night as a side effect of doing weird stuff without git skills
i'm guessing git checkout HEAD would have also worked
 
quite possibly
 
reset is commit restricted so..
 
 
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4:35 AM
@AlexBollbach I hate it when that happens. I'm still trying to kill my clones, the persistent jerks
 
\o morning
 
4:47 AM
o/
good morning
 
Wax
Hello
anyone familiar with ionic framework?
 
@Loktar Hahaha, I've added the 2 of you. Are there other Steamy people I should add?
And yeah, I don't think I've played on Steam in a year or two
 
steamy people?
 
@Wax whats the question? I am familiar with ionic 2..not 1 though
 
8 hours ago, by Loktar
you, me, and any other big steamy people
Yes, all the big steamy people :P
 
4:54 AM
whatever that is :D
how are you doing? everything alright?
 
Thanks for the email, btw, @GNi33! Sorry I haven't responded yet - apparently I have RSI
 
did you get my email?
ah, cool :)
RSI?
the repetetive strain thing?
 
Yeah
 
oh man :( your neck?
 
I think it's all @Zirak's fault for starting me off with Emacs
(It's really my keyboard and my fault)
@GNi33 No, it's my left hand. Brb, breakfast
 
4:56 AM
stop using emacs then :P
 
Wax
@suraj I am having issues trying to start a new project
 
I still want to really get going with vim, but at this point I doubt that'll ever happen
 
Wax
What's weird is it was working before
but it just doesn't work anymore. I haven't done anything to cause it
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Q: Creating a new Ionic project through Ionic CLI suddenly started producing npm/git errors

WaxI started learning Ionic 2/3 a couple of days ago and have created some demo projects as well by following tutorials. Now, I tried creating a new project again but this error suddenly started to appear. I tried searching as to why this is happening but all I found were just some vague answers or ...

 
npm WARN deprecated object-keys@0.2.0: Please update to the latest object-keys this is just a warn.. your real issue seems to be with next git command..
you might want to add the error as text instead of the image
 
morning
 
5:04 AM
\o morning @Linus
 
o/ yo
 
@GNi33 At this point, even just typing hurts. I think I haven't worked more than 30 mins / day since last Wednesday
I was hoping to get started again today, but it seems like I can't still
 
@Wax does ionic info work? and what is the npm version?
 
@SomeGuy damn, hope you'll get better soon!
 
Yeah, me too. It's been interesting to be away from the computer for so long. I haven't been reading any tech stuff either since that'd just tempt me :P
Been a lot of "normal people" stuff; just reading and watching TV
 
5:14 AM
well, not a bad thing to take a step back sometimes
 
Yeah, definitely. I didn't mind it as much as I thought I would
 
I'm having my interview for university on friday and I have no idea what they'll want me to talk about
 
Ooh, that should be exciting!
Are you nervous?
 
not really, not yet at least
but I don't know what it'll be about really. If it's just going to be about my background and motivation or something else as well
we'll see, I'll not study for some coding interview though ;)
 
In India, they normally do those things to berate you :P
 
5:20 AM
haha, yeah, we'll see
 
> You're not worthy, but we have the seats, so we'll take your money. Don't disappoint us, you piece of shit!
I don't imagine that'll happen to you :P
 
if I don't get in, I won't be completely devastated, but I think I'd really enjoy that master program
@SomeGuy I still come across stuff that you would enjoy in Salzburg every day :D
 
Hahaha, gimme!
I just watched The Sound of Music! It was surprisingly fun
 
I'll have to admit that I have never seen that movie
 
@GNi33 I think that's ideal, right? A slight detachment
 
5:26 AM
yeah, I guess so
 
@GNi33 Hahaha totally get that. I hadn't watched Slumdog Millionaire for the longest time :P
 
Sound of Music is a very american thing
I had a beer there yesterday
definitely recommended
 
Haha, I'm going to have to start prioritizing my beer stops at this point
 
:D
Austria in a nutshell
 
Wax
5:48 AM
@suraj. Sorry, there was a power outage. Anyway. Here's my ionic info

global packages:

@ionic/cli-plugin-proxy : 1.3.1
@ionic/cli-utils : 1.4.0
Ionic CLI : 3.4.0

System:

Node : v6.11.0
OS : Windows 7
Xcode : not installed
ios-deploy : not installed
ios-sim : not installed
npm : 5.0.4
 
6:07 AM
it could be an issue with npm version.. 5 still has some issues.. Try starting test app with version 4.x
 
Wax
but it was working fine a couple of days ago and I didn't perform anyupdates
@suraj I'll try anyway. I'll let you know
 
if its still an issue.. try raising an issue in github ionic
 
Wax
I think it is from their end. I already posted it there and it turns out I'm not the only one having this issue
damn.. :(
 
yeah.. not an npm version problem stackoverflow.com/questions/44772626/…
 
Wax
I'm trying to create a proof of concept to show to my client using Ionic, and now.. I can't even show him anything. What a sad life. lol
 
6:30 AM
according to the SO post that suraj has posted, there is a problem with git submodule which is unable to fork "io bonjour"
 
@Wax what is your git version?
I just tried to start a new blank app.. worked fine
 
Wax
Hmm
hold on
@suraj

git version 2.13.2.windows.1
What's your version?
could be something related to that
I updated my git earlier, same error though
 
6:46 AM
I am having git version 2.10.1 (Apple Git-78) working on a mac..
 
Wax
hmm
I had 2.12
and it was working fine until it doesn't
so I decided to update my git
same error
 
raise an issue
 
do not touch the git version 2.13.2.windows.1
 
yeah no point in experimenting with that..it might mess with any other projects you may be using
 
/kill suraj for inputting a number 0
 
Wax
6:57 AM
I have. I am getting some replies who are having the same issue as me. oh, well. :(
 
@RexAdrivan huh?
 
Wax
I'm just reading stuff about the submodule thing
 
just did a SO search with [java] user:22656 keyword and didn't got what I need šŸ˜²
 
@KarelG
 
7:12 AM
alto
 
I am using browserify and babel. Coworker is getting this error, even after I added custom event polyfill for IE:
Ideas? Seems so strange its inside a try catch
 
@Schoening what did you say?
 
hm?
 
|
%)7(+)
 
7:37 AM
Rex, you got a warning yesterday of which you didin't paid attention to it. Hence you got muted for a small period. Please don't have the same behavior as yesterday
 
@MadaraUchiha ^
 
sounds = 100;
 
@RexAdrivan What the fuck is wrong with you?
 
infection %
 
7:54 AM
SO is missing search functionality for answers after date X :|
nvm created:
 
8:52 AM
what the hell is going on?
 
@GNi33 Nothing of importance
I gave them a day ban with a warning, they come back and completely ignore my warning, so now it's a week.
Nothing to see here :)
 

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