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8:00 PM
i'll be going with bootstrap 3 for now, prob gonna switch to flex somewhere in march 2018 and grids in 2019
 
remember, IE6 is still used
can't forget those few million people in China
 
that's what I call a strict time table
 
I don't know what I am doing next week, let alone March of 2018.
 
I'm going to start using async/await in 2022
 
8:01 PM
unfortunately most ppl also don't buy BS4/flex themes
 
Who buys a theme?
 
I do
 
for now*
 
like I said, I'm lazy af
 
I do
 
8:01 PM
@rlemon yeah but you're lazy af
 
$50 and I don't have a week of tweaking my own designs
very very much worth it
might be different if I wasn't making dashboards.
 
<$20 and the theme I bought saved dozens of hours (conservatively). I still added my own css for things I needed, but a lot of time saved
 
yea I had to tweak some stuff. like a few hours work.
mostly changing how the silly media queries were not lined up with standard bootstrap breakpoints
 
I tried buying a theme once... it didn't go over well. When trying to go in to make modifications to fit my needs, I got so depressed by the super low quality of code, that I just gave up and ditched it
 
8:05 PM
ohh yea the scss in this theme is atrocious
 
mine had shitty bloated JS that i didn't use, but the CSS was finew
 
so I just avoid looking at it
 
(less)
 
!!> /\w*/.test('暗淡的');
 
I'm using my theme with reactstrap, so no js included
 
8:05 PM
@SterlingArcher true
 
Well I'll be damned
 
!!unban ndugger
pls
!!echo you iz in mindjail
 
um, so angular is a ghostown now i guess
 
she ded
 
google lost to fb, that's funny
 
8:06 PM
@SterlingArcher you're saying "test for 0 or more words" as the only condition. Not sure what did you expect
 
they did?
Angular is still pretty relevant. most of us in here just prefer React
 
and Vue i guess
 
backs away
 
vue is basically the best library ever made; it's even better than flexbox
 
oh boy
 
8:07 PM
oh girl
 
oh they/them
 
oh shit
 
oh xhem
 
@SterlingArcher you should watch Schitts creek
 
dude fuck react and vue, turbolinks rules
 
8:08 PM
eugene levy and his two kids are in it
 
@rlemon I do have gigabit internet now, so yah im down
 
granted his daughter isn't very funny.
 
Turbolinks is dope
 
his son is funny af, and ofc eugene is as well.
 
Basically a router with $("#content").load(route)
 
8:08 PM
the first ep is kinda stupid, but it gets much better
 
and a great file structure
fuck yeah
 
whoever came up with the name eugene should be hanged
 
Love it
 
95% of SPAs could be made with turbolinks
and work as well
 
Maybe it came from somebody yelling at a guy named 'Gene'
> YO GENE
 
the only thing that sucks about it is that it's in CoffeeScript........
 
CoffeeScript was a joke
 
Yeah there's no way I can respect a pope with that name
 
@anemaria20 I can write it for you in jquery
 
I have a date tomorrow evening with a girl I knew from my one semester of college. I want to find a place that has really good bloody marys so we can get old white male wasted
 
8:10 PM
@ndugger your apt.
 
Bloody Mary's in the evening?
Huh
Never thought about that
 
rlemon's apt
 
Under the freeway
 
@rlemon I'm not very good at making bloody marys... I think I need to explore making my own mix
 
@Vap0r that's already been done, but i can't remember the name of it... BBQ something
 
8:11 PM
I have an apartment?
 
my apartment is your apartment, bro
 
well if you don't know...
 
@ndugger get on it
 
stay any time
 
@ndugger whatever you do, dont take her to an Audi S4
there's not much room
 
8:11 PM
@KevinB it's not terrible because when I think of it it's very similar to how I used to write my first dynamic jquery sites :P
 
I have a honda fit
 
plenty of room in the back if we put the seats down
 
I take that back, it's terrible, but I do remember doing it
 
i like old technologies.
 
8:12 PM
was my first introduction to the history api
 
i guess it comes from my love of milfs
 
i ended up rolling my own instead of using it
 
@anemaria20 i to have an infatuation with rlemon's mother
 
yea, but you can't see her anymore till you pay your tab
cheap-ass
 
I prefer "frugal-ass"
fixed
Your mother and I did the old frugal noodle doodle
 
8:14 PM
reused a condom?
 
That's one way to put it
This was me
and this was her
 
that's racist
 
except a lot cheaper looking
 
we're riding the line now, probably time to back off it
 
Let me just say that's the lamest line ever
 
8:16 PM
yes daddy bob
 
Neither of those things were racist
They were against the idea of racism
But whatevs
 
Who else here likes javascript?
I like javascript sometimes
do you?
 
I do but it frequently frustrates me
Because I'm not good
 
i prefer cfscript
 
groovyscript
 
8:17 PM
I think I'd prefer a spoon-castration to that
 
<cf:if (i don't know the syntax)>

</cf:if>
 
if (foo EQ 5) { doStuff() }
 
$("cf").removeAll()
 
Angular is basically cfscript
 
can also use if (foo == 5) { doStuff() }
 
8:19 PM
whatever happened to TeaScript?
 
@rlemon that explains why @SterlingArcher must like it so much
 
@SterlingArcher likes money
 
no love for tea
 
but you cannot use ===
 
@KevinB IM IN YR LOOP UPPIN YR VAR TIL BOTH SAEM VAR AN 10
Yeah I once worked with an API that supported such language
 
8:20 PM
one of the catscripts?
 
@rlemon it's true
 
@ssube lolcode
 
I think I still own jabbascript.org
 
i tend to use == and >= etc, leave the EQ to cfml
 
the ahnold variant is my favorite
 
8:21 PM
consistency
 
I wanted to make a compile to js lang based on huttese
but no one else would help, so I gave up
 
I don't know how to make a language compiler. I'm too retarded for that
 
that's why I gave up
:P
with babel, it might be easier now tho
 
if it looks like JS, otherwise ANTLR and pegjs might work better
 
8:24 PM
I've looked at pegjs a few times, but can never understand how to actually use it
 
anyone used multiparty with express
 
user2620028
@ndugger put it in someones hole
 
which hole?
 
user2620028
hole.js
 
I'm feeling pretty self-confident in my parser writing skills lately, and outputting JS is pretty easy so... I could probably do that
 
8:25 PM
ha ha ha, we are so funny, sodomy is the best
 
yeah, you can't put a JS peg in a square hole
 
@ndugger that's gay
 
!!kinkykendall
oh shit, I'm mindjailed
well, you get it
 
not as much as your mom
 
ok
 
8:26 PM
btw, dugger and towc can be unjailed in jan
no more using the bot to troll tho
 
I was only banned for making a joke :(
 
or extra-greet (for those who'd like to claim it's not trolling)
 
and @towc you're officially banned from ever using !!welcome
 
did I ever use the bot to troll? (wait, I did, with you and loktar a few times)
 
user2620028
so, i woke up this morning and walked upstairs to see one of my best friends wearing pajama bottoms and a santa hat in my dads room.
 
8:27 PM
but sure, no more welcomes
 
@HatterisMad well, at least the bottoms were on
 
@ssube oh
 
user2620028
supposedly my dad was giving him hand me down clothes for construction work
 
@HatterisMad uhhhhhhhh
 
is this a real thing?
not that that question is meaningful online
 
user2620028
8:29 PM
@rlemon apparently they got into the hottub afterwards
 
s/(hand).+/$1/
> supposedly my dad was giving him hand
 
@HatterisMad uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
3
 
I'll do it myself if I can't use the bot :(
 
@ssube at that point english is a better programming langauge
 
@HatterisMad inb4 your dad announces he's pregnant
 
8:30 PM
To check if person is online on Skype:
	Skype.checkStatus(person)
	if result is "online": return yes
	else return no
End
 
Arnold >>> English
 
user2620028
@rlemon does it make it any less awkward if i said that my friends all hang out with my dad more than me?
 
What's the best way in Visual Studio to debug issues when trying to add Service References?
 
@HatterisMad no
 
english script is broken english; you might as well just use something else at that point
 
8:30 PM
I'm getting a very generic error and have tried everything suggest online that I could find
 
@Vap0r what sort of issues?
 
user2620028
@rlemon yeah i thought not
 
@KendallFrey I'm attempting to add a service reference and this is the error I get
 
I must not have my linter setup right
 
no clue
 
8:33 PM
because classname and clasName just slipped by
for React*
that, or it doesn't care.
 
Since there are people in here other than those who were in here before, I'm gonna link my Q from main again
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Q: Proxy a WebComponent's constructor that extends HTMLElement

nduggerSo, in a library that I'm creating that uses custom elements, you obviously need to define the class in the CustomElementsRegistry before you may instantiate it. As of right now, this is being solved with a decorator: @Component.register('my-element-name') class MyElement extends Component { } ...

pls help fam squad
 
damn, this is a great idea for a project:
The best way to find magic numbers for generative graphics? MIDI knobs 😎 https://t.co/34YAN6yYuQ
 
Basically the recommendations ranged anywhere from deleting temporary files to cutting system.serviceModel from web.config @KendallFrey
None worked so I'm going to start out with a brand new project and see if I get the same issue
 
Oh fucking dammit I forgot to expense the uber rides to the airport
 
$50 down the drain
do you know how much chipotle that could have been?
 
8:36 PM
Aww well. My expense report was already approved. Thank god.. that trip costed me like $1500
@ndugger more like $90
 
that's like 4 more burritos
damn
 
I spent $175 and my fridge is still empty
I mean I have a lot of chicken and beer but not that much
How the fuck do people constantly have full fridges?
 
My parents
My parents Buy everything
 
I'm gonna cook a shit ton of chicken tonight for lunch
 
cause you go to the store every week
 
8:38 PM
just go to Aldi--just avoid the produce
 
pressure cooker ftw, then imma sear them
 
the chicken and veggies rotate, but condiments and random shit builds up
 
@ssube I have almost literally a gallon of hotsauces though
 
and if you're white, at least 17 kinds of cheese
 
!!s/ma/mam
 
8:39 PM
Hey I only have 2 cheeses
 
:(
 
and eggs, milk, protein shakes, etc
 
well
 
that woulda been funny
 
costco
 
8:39 PM
I hate that I have gotten bigger it means I eat more
 
I'm too single to shop at costco
 
same
I'd end up filling up the fridge with just hotdogs
 
“Today, each #bitcoin transaction requires the same amount of energy used to power nine homes in the U.S. for one day.” #CleanEnergy http://grist.org/article/bitcoin-could-cost-us-our-clean-energy-future/
 
costco is the most depressing place in the world
 
Right?
 
8:40 PM
wait what the fuck
 
Costcos fruit is good
 
Costco is worth it just for the 200 pack of corndogs
 
everything there is rotten, frozen, or a TV
 
I got my curved 4k tv from costco
 
also, they're so exceptionally bad at marketing
 
8:41 PM
cryptocurrency is the biggest lie since Japan seceded from the US in 1669
 
a friend used to work there and on her last day, we went by to mess with her
 
@KendallFrey ouch :/
 
Costco has better fruit then trader joes
 
trader joes is a garbage place
 
the counter tried to sell me on their "credit card that gets you a free membership for a low $99 annual fee"
 
8:41 PM
for some reason I think it's a joke, but I'll read
 
I've gone only once, and it was stupid
 
@William they're both shit
 
@ndugger if you keep going back...
LibElement is an invalid constructor
 
go to a real grocery store
 
so that propagates forward.
 
8:42 PM
not some suburban shithole
 
lol I love how we are up talking chipotle of all places and down talking common grocery stores
What is a real grocery store?
 
no, common grocery stores are good
 
@ndugger because HTMLElement is an illegal constructor
 
@rlemon yes, but I don't think you fully understood the question, which is my fault. It's an illegal constructor until the custom element gets defined in the CustomElementsRegistry. I'm trying to do that in the proxy constructor
 
costco and bulk stores are not
 
8:43 PM
HTMLElement is an illegal constructor
 
So publix or lowes?
 
Yes
 
so how you expect to inherit from it?
 
@rlemon i sent you a funny from tinder
 
@rlemon It's not illegal if it's defined in the registry
 
8:43 PM
I only support multinational corporations, screw local business
 
am I a parrot now?
You should look into custom elements first
Get an understanding of how that works before trying to dig into my Q deeper
 
or not
glhf
 
ok
 
and cheap products produced by child labor
 
@KendallFrey damn, that's super scary :/
it's growing so fast too
that might just be the killer for btc, for me
well, tbf, how much do normal banks and stock exchange centers pull from the grid?
 
8:47 PM
is it up again?
 
anyone willing to answer me a quick question about vectors?
 
depends what kind
 
what is usually considered to be point O of several vectors?
is it (0,0) or the mean middle?
 
huh?
I've never heard of "point O"
 
origin?
 
8:50 PM
That's the only thing that comes to mind
 
vectors by themselves don't have an origin
a non-(0,0) origin is another vector by itself
 
might be different in english, but yeah, it should stand for origin I think
 
Nor do groups of vectors have a "middle"
 
that's the problem, I just got point O(x,y) here
 
@GNi33 The origin is the zero vector, the only vector with zero magnitude
 
8:51 PM
and I got several (10 to be exact) value pairs
 
what do they represent?
 
in this case just random measurement data
 
measurement of what?
 
it's an assignment, it's random data
 
how to remove all items from a WeakMap?
.clear() is deprecated for some reason?
 
8:54 PM
plotted, it looks like this
 
@jAndy you never need to
 
here, on 0,0 I plot the eigenvectors of the covariance matrix of these points
 
@Luggage ?
 
which should give me an orthonormal base
 
weak maps don't hold strong references
 
8:55 PM
> By contrast, native WeakMaps hold "weak" references to key objects, which means that they do not prevent garbage collection in case there would be no other reference to the key object.
GC will handle it for you
 
@GNi33 Let's be clear. Your assignment is asking how to calculate the O of several vectors, but doesn't say what O means?
 
you never need to remove a key from the weakmap. that's actually the whole point. That's also why you can't enumerate them
 
same reason can you only ask weak collections certain specific questions
@Luggage well, you can remove a single one to ensure it doesn't exist, but you have to know what it is
 
@KendallFrey it just says "plot the eigenvectors based from point O(x,y) (where x and y are notated as vectors) and interpret the plot"
 
well... what. If you put any data in the map which is weakly bound by "something", but you actually want to remove all of that data.. what you do?
it blocks memory after all
 
8:56 PM
so no, unfortunately it doesn't say what O is
 
weakmaps don't
 
weakmaps don't? They use interstellar memory?
 
they use weak references, which can be broken by GC, like lemon's quote explains
 
all I can think of is that I would need to calculate the mean center of these points, use it as O and plot it there as orthonormal base, basically because that is what a PCA does
but that's just an assumption really
 
@rlemon I've added some clarification to the Q; hopefully it makes a bit more sense now
 
8:58 PM
I don't think I really get it. That means data that is referenced in a weakmap by a weak reference gets only freed if the reference gets dereferenced?
like WM.set( someObject, <hugeDataBlock> )
 

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