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@Cerbrus Have you ever noticed the irony between your avatar and your name?
 
Boxers or briefs?
 
@Trasiva Inconsistency in the amount of heads?
 
@Cerbrus That, and wolves are cool.
 
2:07 PM
@Trasiva That be an understatement, mate :D
 
@Cerbrus I have some friends that breed hybrids out in Montana. Amazing animals, but huuuuuuuuuuge.
 
If I ever have a dog, it's gonna be a race that looks like a actual wolf, as much as possible
 
@rlemon those frames would make amazing stills
 
I love his reaction to it still recording
 
@Cerbrus There's a malamute/arctic wolf breed that's been getting popular here in Iowa.
 
2:11 PM
Got a link?
 
@Cerbrus Of a picture, or of a breeder? I don't know about breeders.
 
Pics
I don't plan on getting a dog, soon. Nevermind importing one all the way from Iowa :P
 
Error: picture says cubs. Those are pretty darn large already
Beauties :D
 
all dogs are puppies, and if you disagree, you're a bad person
 
2:14 PM
Good point
But yes, that's exactly the kind of dog I like. :D
 
all nicks are terrible people, if you disagree, your name is probably nick.
 
that's a lie, and if you disagree, you're actually donald trump
@littlepootis yup, looks just like the kind of joke a phper would find funny
 
I was wondering why my food was so bland last night, @ndugger's hoarding all of the salt for himself.
 
I woke up on the wrong side of the country
 
2:19 PM
@littlepootis just find and replace all references to $floor.9th with $_floor__th[15]
 
based on this, it says "wait until babel v5"... does that mean babel natively includes decorators already?
 
@corvid read the rest of that sentence
> Decorators are disabled in Babel v6, ... Until Babel officially supports decorators again
 
Probably the most retarded question I've ever asked here...
Why the hell isn't jQuery loading? The script isn't even loaded in my network tab
 
feel bad
 
2:24 PM
@SterlingArcher scr
 
get an editor with spellcheck :P
 
ST3 failed me D:
 
but like srsly, get an editor with spellcheck. Atom and vscode have it, so good.
 
Also, document ready was deprecated, you pleb
 
user1596138
2:26 PM
Sublime has spell check built in.
 
user1596138
Press F6
 
^
 
Using a deprecated method on a library that should be depreceated itsself... tisk tisk.
 
@Jhawins My mind is blown, ty.
 
user1596138
The lady on the phone for my insurance just said "have a wet one"
 
user1596138
2:27 PM
Ok ig
 
What does that mean?
 
it means that josiah is wet
 
user1596138
^
 
user1596138
Idk she stuttered and got stuck between words and what came out was "have a wet one"
 
@Cerbrus lol I just checked the meta post revision history ...
check out #2
 
2:31 PM
@Jhawins LMAO WAT
@rlemon cyberbully?
God people are too sensitive.
 
that isn't sensitive, it is delusional
 
!!afk I don't want to be a part of this planet anymore. I'm coming Harambe!
 
@SterlingArcher hey! phrasing!
 
I'm so glad we're doing phrasing again
 
People now cry before the milk is even spilled
The milk has a potential to spill, and therefore I am sad
 
2:34 PM
people cry because milk is sexist
 
milk is the source of all war
why isn't milk brown? Because cows are racist.
 
err... milk isn't brown?
 
Here's a question, management approaches you and says we need to cut your pay, but you will still do the same work. What do you do? (not happening to me, just happened to 2 managers).
 
Maybe it's brown in India
that wouldn't surprise me
 
find a new job or take the pay cut
 
2:36 PM
what have I been drinking?
 
there is really only two options
@littlepootis diarrhea
 
I think I let my pride get in the way and walk out. I couldn't imagine taking a pay cut. That seems like such a slap and straight abuse.
 
no
companies need to keep the lights on
if they are doing poorly, they need to cut some pay or cut some people
nothing about it is a slap in the face, or abuse..
unless ofc you're getting demoted because you suck
 
At that point, though, you slapped yourself
 
I don't respect companies that cut employees or pay to salvage their bottom line when it could have been addressed by bring in new work.
 
2:38 PM
depends on what the pay is and will be
 
lol
 
@Waxi wat
 
@Waxi it is clear to me you probably would tank a business
 
and then forever live in debt
 
and how much i like the job.
 
2:39 PM
instead of tank a business and then become president
 
You lose the loyalty of your employees if you beat them up like that when the problem stems with management and not your low level workers.
 
trump steaks 4 lyfe
@Waxi If you think a paycut is comparable to getting beat up, you've got more important issues to sort out.
 
I'd sooner give an entire team a small cut vs cut one of them. Also you think it is about more money for the company? No dude, often it is to ensure there is a company.
No company == no jobs for a lot more people
 
It's unfair to cut the pay of your employees because you can't manage the business effectively. Saving your bottom line by cuts is not the answer, that's just a quick fix to stop the bleeding, but it's insulting to everyone.
 
What do you do instead then?
 
2:42 PM
You seem to think that it's your right to have a job and get paid.
 
Firing then all because your company struggled is worse.
Also you seem to think success of a company relies 100% on management
 
I would never hire someone like Waxi, who thinks that the company owes him something, and that it's his right to be given money. Absolutely absurd.
 
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with changes in government/market, right
 
take for example the industry I work in, it was a funky year for crops and therefore a lot of the manufacturing side of life isn't getting business this year because corn futures are shit
 
I'm saying they should have had the foresight to not let this happen. They dropped the ball for awhile and now it's catching up to them and their last ditch effort is to cut people or pay. That's just irresponsible. I'm walking out as soon as they say I'm getting less.
 
2:45 PM
that has nothing to do with management, and companies instead of closing the doors are giving pay cuts.
pay cuts are better than job cuts
> I'm saying they should have had the foresight to not let this happen
lol, how
 
@Waxi You remember Nokia?
 
you gonna know about market changes with your crystal ball?
 
They used to be the most powerful cellphone company on the planet.
They don't exist anymore.
 
They still exist in my heart
 
@MadaraUchiha wat
 
2:46 PM
except for the lumia
 
its impressive that their phones outlived their company
:D
 
@littlepootis Bought by Microsoft, then been taken apart when MS CEO switched.
 
pretty sure I have a nokia around that still turns on
 
Converse, one of the biggest companies for telecommunications, telephony, fax, etc, gone overnight
 
@MadaraUchiha wasn't it just the Mobile Phone division that was leased to MS?
 
2:47 PM
Shit happens, companies tank. You can't predict everything.
 
Exactly.
 
You cut the pay of an employee, he now doesn't work as hard as he did, so you're actually losing more than had you just left him alone. I don't think pay cuts will balance out people's attitude.
 
The takeaway from this conversation is that Waxi is a moron.
 
@Waxi What do you do in their stead?
 
give them all raises, obviously
 
2:48 PM
The company is sinking, that's a fact that you can't ignore.
 
It's the Waxi way
 
You need to save more money, else the company goes bankrupt
What do you do?
 
As the company, you keep bleeding until you fix the real problem, not just massaging your team because the long term damage of hurting your workers.
 
You're CEO or CFO or whatever
 
@MadaraUchiha apparently you don't fire them or cut pay, you foresee all possible problems are proactively solve them.
Waxi is a seer man, he's gonna be rich
 
2:49 PM
@Waxi Then you die. Congrats
And all your employees are now employment free.
 
pay cuts, job cuts, selling off assets, none are great options
 
lol. We had new management come in earlier this year, and they've driven this place into the ground with all these promises of work coming, but it hasn't come, and now they're cutting workers and pay.
 
@KevinB but all are better than closing the doors
 
@Waxi Look, we're not saying that bad management is good.
 
Maybe we're slowly dying, but to me, that's the very last thing you want to do.
 
2:50 PM
We're saying that cutting pay is the lesser evil here
If they don't learn, the company will die. More slowly, but still die.
 
Would you guys accept a pay cut? That was the original question.
 
assuming that financial problems are controllable and foreseeable is wrong in so many industries and jobs.
 
@Waxi Depends on the circumstances. A lot.
 
@Waxi depends on the situation
 
I really like my job, so depending on the pay cut, I would consider it.
 
2:51 PM
@Waxi Depends on how much I'm being paid, the culture, work, etc.
 
being transparent with your employees and issuing a temporary furlough system to cut pay across the board is certainly better than them not doing anything and then one day shutting the doors because they couldn't pay the bills.
 
@KevinB this
 
If you're willing to take a pay cut, doesn't that kinda imply that you make too much to begin with?
 
I've worked at a company where we needed to put in 60 hour weeks to make a contract
we did it because it was for our personal good as well as the companies
 
@Waxi I don't think you understand anything
 
2:51 PM
@Waxi not really ^^^^
 
Good lord
 
@Waxi Who determines how much you should make?
Hint: "my boss" is the wrong answer.
 
lol
 
@Waxi no, it implies you care about the company you work for and are willing to do whatever it takes to ensure they can grow during their financial troubles.
 
Here we get 5 extra days of "vacation", without pay, to cut costs. yeah, it sucks, but at least we get 5 extra days of vacation and still have jobs
 
2:52 PM
frankly, your attitude on the subject is pretty petty and childish in my opinion
 
^
My guess is that you're still new to adulthood and being a professional.
 
@Waxi Have you ever run a company? Or ever met someone who is an independent worker and/or company owner?
 
I can't imagine having the company's back when they never have yours.
 
Because my dad is someone like that, and let me tell you, when times hit, they hit hard.
 
then your attitude is wrong, or the company sucks.
 
2:53 PM
@Waxi If that's how you feel about your current company, then get a new job.
 
if all companies are like this for you, I suspect the former
 
I feel like the company I work for has my back
 
^
 
^
 
2:53 PM
^
 
You've seen how much i'm working for... if they didn't i wouldn't be here
 
Your job is only as safe as you think it is and everyone is replaceable. I think it's super naive to think your company has your back.
 
Can I kick him?
 
@Waxi No job is safe.
 
@ndugger we don't kick ignorance
 
2:54 PM
And anyone who thinks that you can make a good, secure living with only one source of income is foolish.
 
user1596138
Waxi got screwed over
 
user1596138
We need the story
 
Can I kick the ignorance out of him?
 
This isn't 1980.
 
@MadaraUchiha you can in Canada
 
2:55 PM
@rlemon Go chew some maple leaves
 
most people live comfortable with single sources of income (here)
 
@rlemon I can imagine
 
I live comfortably with a single source of income, unless you count investments as a source of future income
 
I'm looking to sell some of my crafts, but not for the $$, because I'm running out of space for new projects :(
 
Because the state has mechanisms to help you get on your feet and find another job in case you lose yours for whatever reasons
 
2:56 PM
we pay into employment insurance tho.
so, it is a parachute we setup for ourselves.
 
@rlemon Is it enforced by the state/employers?
 
well yea, like all taxes.
 
Or is it something you do for yourself and no one tells you to do?
@rlemon Then, it's not something you setup for yourself, not really.
It's not like health insurance or pensions in the US
 
I'm thinking about reducing my 401k investments to 0%, partly because they don't match.
 
I'm just pointing it out because some people (not necessarily you) don't think about the fact that every canadian does pay for these services, they are just not managed by us
 
2:58 PM
Here in Israel we have sort of the same, it's called "national insurance" and it's crap.
 
english question: when a text says "a City gent" in a british context, I assume that means a gentleman from the busy urban area, but could "C"ity refer to anything else? Like a famous journal or a company?
 
our EI isn't perfect, but it does mean you can mostly keep yourself fed and showered while looking for a job
 
You pay your whole life to an institute just so that they can politely tell you to fuck off when you need them the most.
 
and you have to be looking for a job
 
@towc generally means someone from city of London, but can mean other major cities.
 
2:59 PM
(this is actually homework. Not required to know what I'm asking, but would really help understand the rest)
 
@towc That's correct.
 
@tombull89 not ambiented in London
 
City gent === City Folk
 
I don't think that the capital C means anything particular.
 
opposite of "country boy"
 
2:59 PM
If that's what you're getting at.
 

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