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6:00 PM
I creed arachnids
 
I cried arachnids
 
@ndugger xbone has a gay edition??
 
I'm trying to design the ugliest controller possible
 
Plant breeding is the art and science of changing the traits of plants in order to produce desired characteristics. Plant breeding can be accomplished through many different techniques ranging from simply selecting plants with desirable characteristics for propagation, to more complex molecular techniques (see cultigen and cultivar). Plant breeding has been practiced for thousands of years, since near the beginning of human civilization. It is practiced worldwide by individuals such as gardeners and farmers, or by professional plant breeders employed by organizations such as government institutions...
 
@ndugger Oh that's easy, just put @VeronicaDeane's mom on it.
 
6:06 PM
@SterlingArcher i.imgur.com/3M1i9z4.jpg
 
That's a lie, I've never met Judge Judy
Only she can judge me
 
Hail Judy!
 
Hail Satan!
3
 
o/
 
6:09 PM
My old NCO has a tattoo of Judge Judy on his calf.
 
Hello
 
@HassaanHafeez Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
It's me
 
Dog
Wow, this might be the first day where I have a star on something that isn't dank meme or stupid af
 
6:15 PM
window.document.getElementById('container').innerHTML += JSON.stringify(obj, null, 4);
Is there a reason why this does not format properly
 
@KevinB do you mean something along the lines of this?
@KevinB echo'
<select name="choose">
<option value="1">Alphabetically</option>
<option value="2">Highest to Lowest</option>
</select>
';

if($_POST['choose'] == '1') {
   usort($data, function ($a, $b) {
      return strcmp($a->Name, $b->Name);
   });
}

if ($_POST['choose'] == '2') {
   usort($data, function ($a, $b) {
      return $b->ID - $a->ID;
   });
}
 
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@HassaanHafeez Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
no, none of the sorting would be happening in php
 
6:19 PM
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@HassaanHafeez Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
@KevinB what should i do?
 
send the data to the client and sort it there based on select value.
 
isn't that what i did though?
 
well, no, those if statements and such are php
which happens on the server
 
could you show me an example of what i need to do?
 
> AT&T immediately said it would continue to [be an asshole]
 
i'm looking to create a ui for a side project
 
What's stopping you?
 
and i've never used ember or angular for a whole project, so i'm not too familiar with them
yeah i don't know where to start D:
 
start by defining the end result
 
6:30 PM
@KevinB it's actually for a "game"
so a few ui elements that change from user input (buying stats, and so on) and some that change from events in game
 
ember is better for games.
(not really)
 
@MadaraUchiha Yea, it always baffles me that people don't realize just how badass he was.
 
@bitten use react
it's actually sane
 
i'm just looking for a saner way to look after the templates of all the pop ups, and so on
 
+1 for react.
 
6:32 PM
@ssube oh okay, i'm the least familiar with react, as in 0hrs
 
with angular, you'll spend the next three months trying to set up a $serviceInjectionAccess.on('eventHookStream')
 
even better.
 
@bitten look at react, redux, and rxjs (reactive)
that's 90% of what you need for a nice, extensible, data driven app thingy
 
anyone ever have an lcd screen mount and easily adjusts vertically, with very little force?
 
in that order?
 
6:33 PM
or, if it's a really simple one-page app, knockout.js
 
@Shea Yes
I got mine with the monitor.
 
@bitten they work together. react renders data that redux tells it about
 
I'm trying to figure out how they work, but I don't even know what to search for
 
@bitten React is the view.
Only the View.
 
so then your DAOs and services just tell redux they updated something, redux tells the views (react), they render, and bam
 
6:33 PM
@Luggage it's a few different screens, appearing in different instances. some are persistent ui elements, other ones the user should interact with (like spending currency, etc.)
 
nice clean separation of concerns, if you do it well
 
The implementation of the rest is up to you
 
or rather, what the mechanics are behind them
 
@MadaraUchiha which is the main benefit of react over angular, IMO
 
agreed.
I prefer multiple single purpose libs.
 
6:34 PM
@ssube sorry, what's a DAO?
 
@Shea Spring that's pressed 95% of the way, your force presses it just enough to start movement
@bitten Data Access Object
 
@bitten data access object, the "model"
 
An abstraction layer between your objects and permanent storage (like a database)
 
it is the data, handles validation, serializing to JSON or whatever to send to the server
 
well i have no database
 
6:35 PM
oh nice
 
it's just some "models" ontop of some object literals
 
your DAO is the data, services are the logic, and views render it
 
or a print and a scanner.
 
@ssube I think you're a bit confusing him
@bitten Get to know React.
 
might be too much at once
 
6:36 PM
yeah, i'm slow
heh
 
Learn what it can do, and more importantly, what it can't.
 
@bitten redux links your models and react
 
okay
 
react does the actual templating
 
this is all good information
 
6:37 PM
redux might be a bit abstract to start with..
 
i was planning on working on it tonight, but i guess i have a few days of studying ahead of me
 
Anyone else into Screeps?
 
!!urban screep
 
@Luggage [Screep](http://screep.urbanup.com/5208033) a late addition, something added at the last minute that wasn't previously considered.

Scope + Creep
 
@MadaraUchiha I tried it out, it seemed fun, but I wasn't paying for it.
 
6:38 PM
@MadaraUchiha the mmo sandbox?
 
I supported their indiegogo campaign, so they gave me a basic subscription for free forever :D
@bitten Yeah
 
@Luggage it's super abstract, but it also learns you the whole message-passing architecture, which is the best way to make apps
 
@ssube Redux isn't that good of an architecture IMO.
 
@MadaraUchiha then nope ^^
 
Global data store and global events reminds me too much of the DOM, honestly.
 
6:38 PM
I feel like if you start with the basic concept of message passing, then everything else is a lot cleaner from the start
 
@MadaraUchiha I forgot about that, haha. It looked really cool though, and I though it'd be a good tool for JS practice.
 
@Megaplex It would
 
@MadaraUchiha I prefer having a central message dispatcher. It's worked a lot better than anything else I've tried to mvc
 
Your colony won't last long against the REALLY fancy scripts though
@ssube I don't do MVC
I do solid OO
The MVC is a consequence.
MVC is a function of separation of concerns, sometimes, you don't need all of it, sometimes you don't need it at all.
 
@MadaraUchiha i like OO + an eventemitter
 
6:40 PM
Just make sure that each important part of your app gets a representation, and only one representation.
@bitten I see events as a sort of shortcuts, something global that can bypass your structure.
 
semantically/pedantically, sure, but most apps will have a controller/router and views
and typically models
 
Which is something you should be very careful about.
@ssube "models" is a fallacy. Model is a layer. There's one of it.
 
all this boils down to just structuring your code into "this is what my data looks like", "this is what the UI looks like" and "these are the action I can perform on my data".
 
@MadaraUchiha hm, i see it as.. it lets your objects not known about each other, so they are "dumb"
they know what data is coming in and what to send out
 
@MadaraUchiha what? one model? how?
 
6:41 PM
@MadaraUchiha Well, that's the idea. Take the time to get the basic automation going, and then start writing new, fancier modules to pull into the routine as needed.
 
they don't rely on each other
 
the model is a codec/helper for the data
 
@ssube No, Model is "The State"
Services, DAOs, data mappers, whatever, all of those are part of "The Model"
And your View is a function of "The Model" at any given time
That is what makes React successful (that, and the Facebook backing, but we don't talk about that)
 
I see what you are saying, but I don't like calling the combined service and DAO layers a model
 
I talk about that. I think facebook is awesome for releasing this stuff
 
6:43 PM
that's confusing, at best
 
otherwise I couldn't care less abotu facebook
 
@Luggage I think what makes Facebook's OS so good is that they release stuff they do for facebook
So it's usually already got years of battle testing on a pretty big scale by the time it reaches GitHub.
 
Yup.
and JSX is sexy sugar.
 
But yeah, the entire point of React is that it's essentially the final rendered view is a pure function of your state.
 
tfw codecademy has no react courses
;_:
 
6:46 PM
You update the state, call .render() (or it gets called for you in some cases), and you're done. And because it's pure, it can be diffed, and cached, and memoized, and all the good stuff that comes with pure.
That's why I tell people it's not OK to do AJAX requests in your react components.
 
@MadaraUchiha what's the state?
 
@bitten react's documentation is pretty good
 
@bitten For that matter, "the value of every single variable in your application"
 
start there and see what you can see
 
No, you should do the AJAX request outside, and update the state, then call render().
 
6:47 PM
@MadaraUchiha okay, so it's not another mvc type concept?
 
@bitten It's the V in MVC.
Just the V.
React strictly does only View.
 
the view requests the data, some other layer goes and fetches it, then the view is updated when the data shows up
the beauty of it is that the view doesn't need to know who did the fetching or how it was done
which you can accomplish in a lot of ways, but react's pure views and some centralized message passer is a nice one
 
@bitten React really shines when you don't want to care about which part of your big complex app needs to be updated.
You just change the data, call .render() and it's done for you. And because of how React is implemented, it doesn't re-render the entire page, just what needs to update, and it does it all at once.
So you get a big performance benefit, without having to worry about optimizing for that performance benefit.
Really, read the docs, write a project or two, see how it goes, if you've got questions, ask :)
 
the other bits also makes the link between views and services be purely event-driven, so they don't directly touch one another
which goes a long way toward encourages a better seperation
 
@MadaraUchiha ..well, here i go
 
as drugs, I can confirm that
 
what is drugs?
 
What I imagine LSD is like:
 
@rlemon we can all is drugs if we try, man
 
6:53 PM
I'm not as think as you drugs I am.
 
I swear to drugs, god, I'm not an officer
 
No officer, it's "High, how are you?"
 
On a scale of 1 to 10, how rude is it to leave a dump so foul, that it wrecks the bathroom? I'm pretty sure I have IBS, so it's not my fault, but my stomach is brewing...
 
Good day, Guys! Please, be very kind to me! Cannot understand what does sign ">" mean in the following jQuery code snippet $("div#container>ul").css("border", "10px solid green");
 
@StepUp have you checked the jQ selector syntax docs?
 
7:00 PM
ooops, I haven't
where I can see it
 
that should explain it
 
@ssube you are very kind! Thank you a lot! If I could upvote for your reply! You are the best!
 
You're welcome
 
next time, check the docs before asking. They know many things.
 
@ndugger As you say, it's not your fault.
Just avoid eye contact with emigrants of said room
 
7:03 PM
@ndugger 1. You should see/hear what I've witnessed in a company bathroom
 
lol. I hate pooping at work
 
Let it go
 
@SterlingArcher Have you ever walked into the bathroom and seen a woman using a urinal?
Because if not, Steve G wins
 
7:05 PM
lmao
 
@VeronicaDeane I have, but it was at a nightclub
 
that's a little less awkward
 
@VeronicaDeane I've seen a woman taking a shit in the piss trough at the Orioles' stadium.
 
In Steve's case, it was a woman with a dick
 
this desk is cool
 
7:10 PM
@VeronicaDeane That's totally different.
 
@Shea my friends have these at their homes
wouldrecommend.jpg
 
I wanted to build something like it, but I think that tops anything I could make
just because I have a full wood shop at my disposal.
 
Build a private toilet
Equip your desk with custom plumbing so you can just go at your desk
Bam. $37 idea
 
Whoo, that was a poop
 
@SterlingArcher There's an app for that
 
7:16 PM
@Shea Ikea has desks like that; not bad for the price compared to other places
 
I am very good at that game
 
you should get the game were you see how high your phone can go
but you have to throw it up in the air and catch it for the height to count
 
there's an app for that
 
I would have taken longer, but one of the maintainance ladies knocked and needed to clean it, so I had to wipe and run
 
7:17 PM
@ssube Someone did that, Apple took it off the store because it was made in hopes iphone users would break their phones.
@ndugger ..so you had to wun?
 
@Megaplex I know, it was great. The most clever folks were making slingshots.
 
yes
 
@rlemon ... why do you have a maven t-shirt?
 
@ssube Then there was the recharging your iphone in the microwave....
 
 
7:18 PM
oh fuck this guy is good
 
I love Boogie; I'm waiting for his Nintendo thoughts
 
@VeronicaDeane Boogie roasted himself?!
 
he sho did
 
Poor Boogie, ripped the shit out of himself.
 
Damn he savaged himself
 
7:22 PM
haha
 
> Your face says sex offender, but your waist says the candy's for you.
 
the apple in the mouth.. that got me
 
^ ditto
 
@Megaplex so great
his youtube story is also really sweet too
i don't know how he came out of his background with such character
boogie2988 <3
 
Anyone here lives in Africa and/or knows French and wants to google someone for me?
 
7:26 PM
I know french.
 
ew, google fonts redesign is ugh
 
it's a subjective thing
 
you're a subjective thing
 
I don't live in Africa or know French, but I do want to google whatever it is for you
 
@ssube thank you :-)
 
7:29 PM
(Trust me it's gonna be anticlimactic)
 
i don't mind that something goes anti-climactic. Unless it's at a woman.
 
But I need to know what to google! Ok I'll just google something random for you @BenjaminGruenbaum
 
meh nvm
Thanks anyway @FlorianMargaine
 
physics: what's the hand rule that defines the direction of the force felt by a charged particle in a B field?
 
right hand rule?
 
7:34 PM
@towc jill, same as your lover
 
maybe, but do you remember the name of who said it?
we have the most stupid marking system: maybe the question is "say why the direction of the force... is that" and the answer must be "because of Mr McMisterface's right hand rule"
 
jack and jill went up the hill and did things with their hands that defined the direction of force felt by a charged particle.
 
loosing all of the beautiful maths behind it :,(
 
@towc my physics teacher didnt leave enough of an impression on me to remember his name
but he was the one that said it
 
oh @ndugger, I'm honored to see that when someone asks for maths advice you name me first although Ben's here :P
 
7:37 PM
I might not like you, but I know you're at least smart.
 
awww 2.9
 
and for anything maths, ben here knows his shit more than anyone I've ever chatted with
 
may explain the acquisition of linkedIn by MS
Even more than kendall ?
 
maybe
they should have an epic showdown
I'd pay for that
 
7:44 PM
@KarelG that's pretty much what I thought
it's a good marketing move
 
Have you upgraded to LinkedIn 10 yet?
 
yes. It's now more clear
 
user1596138
What do you guys get out of LinkedIn? Aside from tons of spam
 
user1596138
^ Serious question.
 
@ssube ugh, I wanted to do the DHCP server to reinveint something like... fan networking ._.
 
7:45 PM
@Josiah lots of spam, and that's about it
 
another project going down the abandoned route
 
I don't like LinkedIn at all, but it looks better if you have one and keep it updated
 
absolutely nothing, if you consider job offers for local retail and mechanic jobs spam
 
i even don't use LinkedIn
there are other means to find a job.
 
user1596138
@ndugger So it helps you get the job, not find it?
 
7:46 PM
I have no idea
 
@Josiah spam, spam, spam and, in case someone asks, a page that links to resources they couldn't bother to Google up
 
I forgot about this song @GNi33 @Loktar
 
I guess it could be a good place to link to while trying to get a job, I wouldn't use it to find one though
 
i used a specialized website of our government to find a job. IT's supported by government. Companies can write out vacancies there and people looking for work can use it to subscribe to a solicitation.
 
user1596138
@KevinB I mean I use my Resume for that
 
user1596138
7:47 PM
I do know of a few cool things from LinkedIn
 
user1596138
Like @Loktar got something cool out of it (that's public info right?)
 
right, and you could replace that with SO's CV or the new thing they're adding soon.
 
@FlorianMargaine why are you bailing?
 
@SterlingArcher Spa-loosh.
 
user1596138
I'm just wondering if I should actually have one lol
 
7:48 PM
I got my last job from it
er my current one
 
user1596138
I don't need it now. But down the road does the networking help you out in any real way?
 
user1596138
@Loktar That recruiter like 2 months ago tho is what I meant :P
 
LI didn't do me any favors.
 
@Josiah it's a waste of time, too much noise
 
user1596138
7:48 PM
But I guess they could have found you anywhere else
 
you guys act like linkedin is a full time job
make a profile..
 
just upload the resume to it and you're done
 
add some info
and that's it
 
user1596138
@FilipDupanović I can't agree with that because Microsoft just spent more than some countries have ever made on it lol
 
it's like 30 mins of someones life and possibly opens up more opportunities so meh
 
user1596138
7:49 PM
Clearly there is something to it that's actually valuable.
 
@Josiah 26 billion virtual kudo points
 
I do receive a lot of sales calls here at work that use my linkedin profile as a place to get my name so they know who to look for in leads sites
 
@Loktar is absolutely right. I was contacted by amazon, facebook, and Lockheed all by LinkedIn
 
user1596138
@FilipDupanović I'd like some virtual kudos points... I would buy a house with them.
 
what did Sun settle for? 120 million?
 
7:50 PM
@ssube I didn't know I was reinventing something
 
@SterlingArcher +1
 
@SterlingArcher that's true... was contacted by linkedin and justintv
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher This is the kind of thing I wanted to hear lol
 
but nothing in the past few years
 
I get contacted maybe 1-4 times a week on linkedin.. mostly shit PHP jobs, but there are several gems I've saved for future reference
For now, SNC is keeping me very happy
 
7:51 PM
@FlorianMargaine I'm not sure how that fan networking works
 
Basically, it seemed companies were more interested in me at 1-3 years experience than they are now with me at 8+
 
@Loktar don't you have to maintain it ? Like updating the cv after a while ?
 
I mean you can, but I rarely do
 
and even respond to requests if you have any ?
 
I only respond to interesting ones
 
7:53 PM
@ssube when you have e.g. 192.168.0.1/24, you take the latest 8 bits (here, 00000001), put them in the beginning of a /8 address, e.g. 10.0.0.0/8, and you get 10.1.0.0/16, a subnet for all the containers on the 192.168.0.1/24 host.
 
If there's anything I've learned, years of experience means jack shit if you can wow them in the interview
 
@KevinB yeah, cause a dev with 3 years of experience makes half as much as a sr one with 8-10
 
SNC didn't start hiring Jr devs until I rocked an interview calling for 5+ years experience
 
that's the idea.
 
@SterlingArcher Lol...
 
7:54 PM
@FlorianMargaine is that not like a NAT ?
 
Since then, they've taken on about 4 more JRs in hopes they can reproduce what I did :D
 
@Loktar good idea or bad idea? I like the idea of a more open air flow, but I would probably have to dust it more regularly? microcenter.com/product/455780/…
 
@SterlingArcher did they change the hiring process at all?
 
@KarelG no, because all the containers in 10.0.0.0/8 can see each other, even on different hosts
 
@Megaplex don't get me wrong, I'm nowhere near fb, amazon or lockheed quality lol
 
7:54 PM
they all have different IPs
 
@ndugger that is a really cool case, only drawback is you need to be vigilant in dusting
buy compressed air :p
 
@FlorianMargaine how does it work across hosts?
 
@Loktar I figured; does the airflow seem better? Will that even effect it?
 
@SomeKittens not that I've seen. I conducted an interview yesterday and I was using the same JS script (with my NodeJS questions I wrote) as a reference
 
@SterlingArcher AppGooFaceSoft are looking for a totally different engineer than Lockheed
 
7:55 PM
how does it work with other PC's out the network ? like browsing to google. How does it get routed correctly ?
 
doesn't it have to be NATted to the exit route?
 
@SterlingArcher cool. Mainly just curious. How are the new folks working out?
 
idk if airflow will be better or worse to be honest with you
 
user2620028
Whats up guys
 
you wont have that much of a vacuum
 
7:56 PM
That's true
 
but I wouldnt worry about an open case ever overheating tbh
 
user2620028
if it is an open case then the airflow will be perfectly fine :/
 
140 $ for a case o.O
 
@SomeKittens I only have contact with 1 of them, the others are on another floor, but he's doing very well from what I see. He's a JR backend
 
I would be more worried about spills, ect.
unless you keep it up on your desk
 
7:56 PM
@KarelG nice cases are way more
 
Yeah, it would sit on the desk, on its side
 
user2620028
Spills and stop bumping up against the board somehow
 
glass on top
 
it's the hardware that matters. I don't mind how it's stuffed into a case
 
@ndugger :P
 
i even know someone whom built his PC in a table, with a glass on the top on it, like a futuristic table
 
@KarelG well, but if you want enough hardware, you need a big case with airflow
 
@rlemon Relevant
 
@ndugger I saw that there btw
 
@KarelG there are open case designs then
 
7:57 PM
it's a cool looking case
 
or, in my case (no pun), something you can run water tubes through
 
I was just at microcenter last week
 
not sure if open cases is good
 
@Loktar I'm heading there Sunday with my younger brother to get all my parts besides my graphics card, which won't arrive for a couple of weeks
 
7:58 PM
I love my case
 
@ssube tunnels
 
bigger particles can go inside the hardware filters
 
@KarelG open as in the design is distributed under a permissive license
 
@FlorianMargaine oh no
 
@FlorianMargaine so for each connection, tunnels?
ndugger, which gfx card did you have purchased ?
 

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