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2:00 PM
@SterlingArcher so, last night was a good night then?
 
coming out of your butt
 
I hope nobody here is the kind of person that screams "HERE".. when the guy that sells icecream shortly before the movie begins is about to finally leave
god....
 
I've tried some vegetarian food recently. It was tasty (and cheaper than actual food) but I'm not sure if I could keep it.
 
@Megaplex looks like top lel
 
2:00 PM
@jAndy hi^^
 
@jAndy That's not a thing in the US
 
@JanDvorak lentils and chickpeas are great to eat anyway, even included in a meat meal
 
@jAndy we don't have concessions in the theatre, it is always outside before the entrance
 
the majority of my diet are lentils and chickpeas, actually :3
 
@Megaplex ok that looks fucking hilarious
 
2:01 PM
that's a good argument to move there
 
you buy your ticket, then an area for food, then the theatre for the show
 
@bitten That's the point, it's supposed to be funny. But all the guys in it are former military, there's a couple of Medal of Honor winners in there.
 
we have both
food before the cinema, a freaking fuckhole selling ice-cream IN the cinema
 
We do have some theatres that have nicer seating and you hit a button and someone comes to quietly take your order for drinks and/or food, but that's not bad at all.
 
and the movie won't start until the bastard left
 
2:02 PM
I've only ever seen that at the drive in
 
Most people get their shit before even the previews start
 
@SterlingArcher I'm hoping I have a freedom erection through the whole thing. Mat Best and the Art 15 crew are fucking amazing.
 
user2620028
Oh hey jAndy is in the chatroom
 
@Megaplex it's almost like a postmodern comedy
 
A movie theater just came out that's also a silent restaurant. You can order booze and burgers and fish and other shit
 
2:02 PM
@ndugger we're opening up one soon with kinda that. private booths or something
alcohol is allowed
 
Ours don't have private booths, but they do serve alcohol
 
user2620028
brb gotta go get some bacon with a beverage of baby rabbit tears
 
I want them to open one of those bed theatres
 
I'm not sure if we have any in MN; they're all over the south and western states.
 
2:03 PM
imagine that people even had cigarates in cinemas a decade ago
 
Almost all the movies in my area have been renovated to have like couch style seats and are super comfy
 
that was fun
 
@jAndy 2 decades for Ontario
 
@rlemon i hope they change the bedsheets c:
 
@rlemon what's stopping you from sleeping in theaters today?
 
2:03 PM
lol@rlemon I guess ... porn?
 
I lived my dream a couple months ago
 
I wouldn't sleep. looks super comfy
 
I smoked cigarettes while gambling in a casino
 
@SterlingArcher I can sit wherever the fuck I please to watch a movie, because I have VR.
 
WELL ARENT YOU FANCY MAPLE BOY
 
2:04 PM
I watched Gravity in 3D last night
 
ugh, I think the perogies I ate last night were bad :/
 
protip: don't ever watch Gravity if you know anything about rocket science
it makes no fucking sense
 
@VeronicaDeane did you see my KSP update?
so happy
 
that you got it working? yeah
 
2:05 PM
we watched Gravity to see Sandra and George make out
 
I made chicken wings 2 nights ago, left them sitting out all yesterday, nuked 'em in the microwave when I got home from work, and ate them. My stomach is feeling a bit iffy this morning...
 
having that said, it's probably the best "real scenario" hollywood ever created in that topic
compared to anything else
including star wars, star trek, etc.
 
@jAndy No, the first half of The Martian
 
@ndugger woke up with my stomach in knots, figured I just needed to eat. hasn't passed in 4 hours
might just go home
 
The second half is still more realistic than Gravity
 
2:06 PM
probably the first movie which was silent
when something crashes in space
 
Yeah, I figured I needed to just eat. I just did. We'll see what happens
I have a PT session after work, so hopefully whatever it is goes away before then
 
@rlemon How was your sushi yesterday?
 
I had half a bagel
@Megaplex that was fine.
 
@rlemon Is that why you're ugly at me?
 
Oh, the ISS just happens to be parked next door to the HST? And there's a Chinese station just down the block from that? what the fuck
 
2:07 PM
@rlemon That wasn't gas station sushi I hope?
 
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@jAndy vegan popcorn. what comes next? vegan toilet paper?
 
@JanDvorak no, it's because you're a smartass with an inflated ego.
 
Toilet paper is already vegan
 
@Megaplex ohh no, they have a stand in the fish part of the grocers
 
@ndugger You couldn't be further from truth.
 
2:08 PM
@VeronicaDeane Don't forget the almost retarded amount of control she managed to have with that fire extinguisher too.
 
@Maurice both is probably in the category: "Accidentally vegan"
 
@Megaplex oh my god have these guys ever heard of conservation of angular momentum?
 
@rlemon Oh nice! I wish we had that here, I had leftovers of that photo I sent you.
 
@JanDvorak So you're a dumbass with a deflated ego?
 
2:09 PM
 
@VeronicaDeane Clearly not, plus that scene in the ocean. Like what the fuck?
 
@ndugger That's closer
 
@Jan I know what it is! You're a ruby fanboy. Explains everything.
 
I lost my shit when I saw the station with the air effects on it. There's so much wrong with that
 
@VeronicaDeane few hundred hours of recorded gameplay and audio voiceovers and I'm sure we could make a pretty entertaining KSP movie
 
2:10 PM
@VeronicaDeane That whole movie was wrong, I can't believe I sat and watched the whole thing. That had to make George Clooney feel like he did Batman again.
 
oh yeah, and don't forget that satellite debris comes in slow-moving well-defined clouds -_-
 
@Megaplex @VeronicaDeane so what I'm hearing is, "Don't watch Gravity"
 
@rlemon Don't watch gravity.
 
@ndugger I believe @MadaraUchiha might be willing to clarify the situation
 
@Megaplex The only reason I watched it is to test 3D movies in VR. I couldn't actually follow the plot, I kept falling through the holes.
 
2:11 PM
we've had a chat after you (or whoever) kicked me
 
George Clooney was batman??
Ohhhh holy shit, he was
I totally forgot
 
There are some interesting (philosophic) things in science, for instance evidence itself. People just "believe" a shitload of stuff, without any hope or option to prove it for themself.
 
@rlemon Have you seen Nassault's Interstellar Quest movie?
 
@SterlingArcher Shitty batman that even he regrets.
 
That one was... Mr. Freeze right?
 
2:12 PM
I don't want to have this nonsense meta conversation AGAIN
Go to GitHub.
 
best example.. why do you believe earth is elliptic?
 
@VeronicaDeane Interstellar would have been a better choice for VR testing, wouldn't it?
 
Was it 3D?
 
@rlemon @JanDvorak @ndugger ^^^^
 
I already watched it, so...
 
2:12 PM
@SterlingArcher Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Bane.
 
That's right
 
@MadaraUchiha
 
Good movie, bad acting
 
@ndugger Read up
 
@jAndy is this a philosophical question or a scientific one?
 
2:13 PM
Oh, my bad. I only saw the ping
 
@VeronicaDeane Ohhh, no. Nolan doesn't do 3d I think.
 
@bitten the philosophical part is, that you have no way to prove it really
but that is true on many things
 
@jAndy depends on your stance in philosophy
 
@Megaplex he's got a very particular set of skills, and 3d isn't one of them?
 
@jAndy prove that the earth isn't a perfect sphere or its orbit isn't?
 
2:13 PM
@jAndy wait, how?
 
I can keep calm if R doesn't keep calling me names for anything i do wrong or "wrong"
 
cause I'm pretty sure we've proven both of those
 
I could say: "earth is flat", prove me wrong, right now, right here
 
you can prove the earth is round with 2 sticks
 
time is 3-dimensional
 
2:14 PM
@jAndy look at the photos
 
@jAndy Gravity wouldn't work on flag objects.
Done.
 
or space is 1-dimensional
 
@JanDvorak I don't care.
Go to GitHub.
 
moon is 300.000 km away from earth right..., it's just a fact.. right...
prove it :p
 
@MadaraUchiha elaborate on this?
 
2:15 PM
@bitten Gravity pulls you towards the center of gravity
For a sphere, it's the center
 
So, who does want me here?
 
@rlemon youtube.com/watch?v=EgIVnvunLuQ If you haven't watched Scott Manley's Interstellar Quest series, watch at least the last couple episodes before watching this, because [spoilers]
 
@MadaraUchiha which also means gravity will round out a flat object
 
As long as you play nicely, we don't not want you here
 
@jAndy parallax
 
2:15 PM
Any idea why my WebSocket Server is in a closing state? My code isn't too complicated and it seems to work fine at first. I only get into difficulty when I try to send a message.
 
@jAndy i don't understand how this question is posed.. who is the burden of proof on?
 
@ssube Of sufficient size, yes.
For a flat disc (which is what most are saying), that's also the center, which is on the same height axis as you
 
@MadaraUchiha given that the whole concept of gravity and what "gravity actually is" is still open for discussion
 
Meaning gravity would have been sideways.
 
science has no answers for that
 
2:16 PM
@Shmiddty No, he feels like it detracts from the movie quality because it changes the scaling of the video, and most people don't like 3D yet. Basically, he'd rather stick to high quality normal video format where he can immerse you.
 
@jAndy We have empiric evidence to how gravity works.
 
@MadaraUchiha ooo well, that makes sense
 
@jAndy we don't know what it is, but we do know what direction it goes in
 
i misunderstood what you meant with "flag objects" lol
 
@MadaraUchiha please continue?
 
2:16 PM
@jAndy Corrected.
We don't know why it operates the way it does, or exactly what it is (despite best theories)
But we know how it works.
 
@jAndy science isn't an "thing to end all things", it's position on the world is not static. we change our view on the world as we gather more evidence, and so on
 
well.. as far as we know yes
but we might miss alot
 
@MadaraUchiha relevant Vsauce: youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs
 
@MadaraUchiha with that capitalization, it works with the power of Sandra Bullock's hair
 
2:17 PM
so science never "says" anything, it's just our "best" explanation "so far"
 
@bitten The best science can hope to tell you, is how we think things work.
 
@MadaraUchiha so don't be a part of it? If someone is being an ass to other users I will call them out for it and proceed to take actions if need be. That is the really only job of a RO
 
@Megaplex 3D movies are a fucking joke compared to VR
 
@MadaraUchiha yes exactly
 
@bitten that concept and true science was abandoned long before
 
2:18 PM
@VeronicaDeane VSauce is good for anything sciency
 
@rlemon Awesome, this is meta, and it has gone long enough
 
if sciency is even a word
 
don't call me an ass
 
@jAndy so then i misunderstand your point then, because that's what i was reading into it :3
 
2:18 PM
nowadays most people, especially scientist, believe in it like religion
 
@Shmiddty The joke would have been funnier if Taken had actually been directed by Christopher Nolan and not Pierre Morel.
 
A while back you told me that as long as these discussions are short, we shouldn't move them to GitHub
 
@MadaraUchiha so maybe someone else should do something about it
 
@JanDvorak who?
 
I agreed.
 
2:18 PM
@MadaraUchiha The idea of science is to provide useful predictions. Knowing how things work is just a way to do that.
 
This is no longer a short discussion. Go. To. GitHub.
 
Hey guys, what are typical ways you backup your databases?
 
okay, I'll keep them short and just kick first
 
@jAndy well then that's the fault of people, not ~science's~
 
problem solved.
 
2:19 PM
@SterlingArcher you can use the DB tools to dump it or take a snapshot of the underlying volume
 
@SterlingArcher mysqldump
 
@SterlingArcher copy them to a backup medium
 
we do both in different circumstances
 
@SterlingArcher Put it on a hard drive/usb stick
 
Why don't you want me here? If I do something wrong, tell me to not do it
 
2:19 PM
you just have to make sure the DB isn't active
 
@SterlingArcher Print it and make a leather bound book.
 
@JanDvorak we have, and you argue / continue to do it
 
@jonface Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@bitten not really.. I even saw professors talking about physics and astro physics as if evrything was 100% and true and blah blah
 
@rlemon namely?
 
2:20 PM
lol. really?
 
mysqldump -u username -p blabla > /drive/backup/%Y-%m-%d
or something
 
Sorry I should clarify -- it's postrgre
 
@jAndy but one has to speak in this way, and as a student you understand the idea you just explained
 
I guess you need to be more specific, otherwise I won't know what you want from me
 
@SterlingArcher I have a script for this
 
2:20 PM
I was thinking snapshot, but where do you store the snapshot, on the same machine?
 
fine, I'm not going to feed into this. I've warned you enough times and so have other RO's now I'm just going to kick for it. </discussion>
 
What for?
for not knowing hhow to behave?
 
there's no point going "so this theory of gravity (which is a theory btw) is what happens (well not what happens just as we see it), it's a force (well kinda a force, just how we see it atm) that acts (kinda acts) upon objects"
one finds this same idea in psychology aswell
 
@SterlingArcher we push it to swift (on-site S3)
 
as a student you are assumed to understand the underlying uncertainties, there's no point to bring it up every time
 
2:22 PM
you just want to run pg_dumpall
 
@JanDvorak essentially, yes
 
Where is the other JS room?
 
You're welcome to make one
 
@ssube that's a good idea. I knew a dump script would be fine, I just didn't know if you store on a same machine or a different repo
 
@ndugger why not educate me instead?
 
2:22 PM
@RowanHarley that's a warning for instigating. Don't do it again
 
1 message moved to Trash can
 
@JanDvorak We've tried and you make a point of ignoring it. Stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@SterlingArcher @ndugger in fairness he was being rude to Rowan earlier today
 
@JanDvorak Stop correcting people, stop being difficult about the whole thing to start more drama, just quit.
 
2:23 PM
@rlemon Yes, but rowan is a help vamp, and his comment there was very uncalled for and very unhelpful.
 
@rlemon Rowan was the one starting the religion war yesterday, though.
 
I know, but this is still going on and he's only vamped and fanned flames
 
@SterlingArcher ok
 
@bitten I'd disagree. A true scientist or naturalist always mentions things like "apparently" in word and letters on stuff like this. Gravity, distances in space, how we meassure distances, this is all bro-science actually were we have more questions than answers
 
@ssube ahh, didn't see that
 
2:23 PM
Hubble was one of those guys
 
@ssube wait what...
 
I'm just pointing out that it wasn't a completely left field comment.
 
Hey
What's going on here everyone?
 
I'm sick of petty JS drama.. I'm just going to start abusing my powers.
 
@rlemon actually, I need to check on that.
He's either a vamp or that troll from yesterday.
 
2:24 PM
eventho all the world believed in this "theory", he always mentioned that red-shift of light is just an option and there are other theories which also work
 
@ton.yeung sorry, more than normal
 
@ssube Rowan? Usually he's just a vamp.
 
today.. it is so degenerated that collages teach that the "expansion of the universe" was proven by Hubble
which is utter bullshit
 
I don't troll @ssube , I may be a bit of a vamp but I don't come here to troll
 
^ at least you can admit it :D
 
2:25 PM
@RowanHarley I was wrong on the religion thing, got you mixed up with somebody else. Sorry about that.
 
@jAndy well you'd waste a lot of time saying "apparently" and "this is what we know" then :P
 
@RowanHarley Son, to be fair, if you were any more of a vamp, the garlic I had for dinner last night would ward you off.
 
@ssube np
 
@jAndy No. That's not how it is.
 
@ton.yeung you spend most of your time trolling, so don't be so eager.
 
2:25 PM
i understand your point though, and do agree.. it's just easier this way :3
 
@bitten it's definitely no waste of time to be exact
 
@Megaplex lol
 
!!afk calm thyselfs my children and vape
 
@MadaraUchiha not true
 
@jAndy The Game
 
2:26 PM
\//\
 
!!/afk
 
@ssube vamp troll. has other people do the trolling for them
 
Too much drama
 
@MadaraUchiha Hubble only found the red-shift of light, the rest is just intepretation from other people
 
The problem today is that the population had completely lost faith in "science", because you'll find for each study a counter study, and it's all very political and industrialized, and access to actual information is harder.
 
2:26 PM
which still can be explained with other methods too
 
I got the "stop correcting people" part, but you need to explain me the "uneasy" part. I try to keep calm, but I keep getting called names for every mistake
 
@RowanHarley I bet if instead of asking 95% of your questions here, if you typed them into Google (you might have to think about the wording), you'd actually get your answer in the top 3 links every time.
 
@JanDvorak You keep ignoring what you've been asked to do.
 
@JanDvorak Fred
 
I don't
 
2:27 PM
If you'd like to continue doing that, you can be kicked.
 
I don't ignore anything
@ssube why do you think I do?
 
@ssube may*
 
@MadaraUchiha fun-fact, Hubble himself never really believed in an expansion of the universe until his death and even wrote a lot of books about it and why red-shift might not explain it
 
@jAndy We build our theories based on evidence.
 
no
 
2:28 PM
Sometimes, our theories are wrong, and we replace them, when evidence shows us that.
 
not only.. that is the problem
 
@JanDvorak you've been asked to stop correcting people and you continue doing it, after a number of users have said it bothers them and 3 (or more) ROs have directly told you to stop. So stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
a lot of stuff is just interpretation
 
Hi all
 
2:28 PM
damn you cap
 
@jAndy Of COURSE it's interpretation
 
@Megaplex some of the questions I have asked were googlable (is that even a word!) but I've realised that. I've decided that googling is a lot easier but some of the questions I ask, I can't find answers to.
 
As long as a theory is not approved its a conjecture
 
@MadaraUchiha we have no evidence that the universe expands
 
tried to make a canonical "why doesn't jquery's .data function work anymore" question/answer stackoverflow.com/q/37814855/561731
 
2:28 PM
@MadaraUchiha Our theories are almost always wrong. We know that neither QM nor GR is a complete theory.
 
@VeronicaDeane Our theories are almost by definition wrong.
 
@jAndy it's all jQuery beneath it
 
@jAndy We do. There's never clear-cut evidence for anything.
 
that is out of the question
 
It's all interpretation
 
2:29 PM
@jAndy The Game
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@jAndy yes, and no.. it used to be that our senses were limited. but now we are machines doing a lot of the observing.. it's no longer a philosophical question about the limit of the human senses.
 
@ton.yeung that's pretty new, right?
 
@MadaraUchiha what is the evidence then?
 
@jAndy Take a simpler example
 
2:29 PM
interesting write up on processing billions of tiny bits of data
 
@ssube do you mean my jokes on behalf of people with poor grammar? OK, I'll stop with these as well. But I have been told in a private conversation with a local mod that it's okay when I do it multiple corrections at a time and with nice words, does that not apply either?
 
The law of reflection, a beam of light will reflect at an equal angle and bla bla bla
 
also, it's in the name.. a 'theory' of gravity. it doesn't claim to be anything else.. just an idea
 
What evidence do we have for that?
 
@ton.yeung yeah whether something acts according to it's wave or particle nature is wholly dependent on how we perform our observation
 
2:30 PM
We think the universe "works" in a certain way, which we emulate with mathematical rules. But there's no real reason why the universe exists at all, aside from those mathematical rules.
 
@MadaraUchiha until this day, the whole expanding universe theory is based on the red-shift of objects.. and then other people declared and interprated it as expansion, whereas the founder himself (Hubble) declined it or at least, had a shitload of doubt
 
We measured once, twice, 10 times, 1000 times, does it mean we have enough "evidence" to support a general theory? No.
 
@VeronicaDeane but we have machines outside of human perception now
 
what do you mean?
 
@jAndy To dispose of a theory, an alternative better fitting the evidence must be presented.
 
2:31 PM
i mean that we have devices to detect infrared, something in the universe that exists outside of our senses
 
@VeronicaDeane the universe exists because it has too for us to appreciate its existence :runs:
 
Any theory has holes
 
@JanDvorak that probably falls under the "too soon" rule right now, considering just how many you've pissed off by ignoring their requests to stop correcting folks. If you want to complain more, take it to github.
 
Look at quantum mechanics, I swear we made 99% of that shit up.
 
@MadaraUchiha it's drugs, dude.
 
2:32 PM
But unless you bring a better theory to the table
 
Did you read the book "irregular galaxies"?
 
Saying "that theory is wrong because it is" is meh.
 
I don't remember who wrote it, but it was a co-worker of Hubble
 
@jAndy The Game
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Yeah quantum mechanics is bs to confirm other theories which would not fit if not for qm
 
2:32 PM
@bitten That's still just math. We can't actually observe the universe existing through any means. I believe the universe is just a giant mathematical equation.
 
@CapricaSix woa now calm down .. that is pretty odd to hit twice in a sitting.
 
@ton.yeung We usually make an excuse up for that
 
@ssube I just want to know what I'm allowed to do.
 
the evidence which is brought up there about hundreds of galaxies with don't fit into the theories is devastating
 
@JanDvorak ask on github
 
2:32 PM
especially about expansion and even more about distances in space
 
My phone be like :(
 
the really is, we have no freaking clue
 
For example, an static electric charge will emit EM when accelerating
 
@SterlingArcher I can correct that
 
@rlemon ninjad
 
2:33 PM
But an atom is a static electric charge, that's constantly accelerating
 
chemistry ?
 
It doesn't emit EM radiation, because that would imply losing energy and all atoms collapsing on themselves
 
@rlemon send noodz
 
@SterlingArcher bro you're so getting an ass shot later
 
EM doesn't emit "light"
 
2:34 PM
EM is light, silly
 
everybody should send @SterlingArcher pictures of their bum
 
@KarelG "light" is shorter to type than "radiation"
So we made up "allowed paths" where an atom can spin without the EM emitting limitation
 
ElectroMagnetism ?
 
And that makes it OK for our theory.
 
@Neal Why not community wiki answer?
 
2:35 PM
@ssube lol
 
@rlemon I've had worse. My cousin sends me the worst snapchats. One was him after a shower, caption "Stupid pimple" and you could see his ass in the mirror behind him
 
It's almost surely wrong, but it's the best we have the moment
 
He's very clever about sneaking nudes into his snaps
 
and that is the reason why you can never skip words like "apparently" ever and ever again
especially when teaching students
but it's not done
 
2:35 PM
Then again, this is my cousin who in college, there was a 90% chance he'd be naked at the end of the night
So my brother and I are used to it lol
 
does anyone here believe in a self or a soul?
 
@SterlingArcher I'm sending you "I'm naked under the vape" shots now after the shower
 
@jAndy We were given the disclaimer that everything we're about to learn is probably wrong on the first Physics lesson in high school.
 
@rlemon OMG LOL
 
@ton.yeung you're engaged?
 
2:36 PM
@MadaraUchiha that's rare
 
@SterlingArcher ^-- he's imagining it
 
@Loktar do you think Rift or Vive price will go down any time soon, or will it always remain expensive and out of reach of the masses? (by always, I mean more thann a few years)
 
@ton.yeung congrats
 
@jAndy I had that lecture
 
@rlemon if you really do that, for the love of god make it a good cloud lol
 
2:37 PM
lol
 
Because if you don't I'm screenshotting it
 
@ndugger not until the 2nd gen
 
In Hebrew: "פיזיקה זה נניח ונזניח" which roughly translates to "Physics is "let's assume" and "let's neglect"".
Sounds better in Hebrew though
 
@ndugger There will be cheaper VR on the market eventually.
It's the nature of tech
 
@Loktar ALright. I'm curious because I'll have a good computer now, but I don't want to spend that much money after I just dropped $700 on a graphics card...
 
2:37 PM
"Meh, don't take air drag into account, that's not your job, that's the engineer's job"
We had a pretty awesome highschool physics teacher :D
 
@VeronicaDeane How did you not know this?
 
@ndugger I hope you are getting 1440
!!
 
@Loktar That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: 3, i, d, y, !, ^, π, ?
 
@ndugger are you saving money by eating healthy?
 
@Loktar 1440?
 
2:38 PM
a 1080 for 1080 is insane.
 
Also, check in. How you doing? How's your knee?
 
@Loktar Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
 
1440 monitor at least
 
@ndugger 2.5k monitor
 
@Loktar Ultra Nightmare....what the fuck was I thinking deciding I -had- to beat that?
 
2:39 PM
@SterlingArcher yes and no. Knee is better, but still a bit iffy. I'm gonna do arms today but I espect my knee to be well enough to do leg day on thursday.
 
@Megaplex haha
 
@SterlingArcher hey man. Guess what band I saw on sunday
 
dont you have to restart on each death?
 
Even though I still buy my meals, the sheer cutback on food and going out has saved me almost $500 in 2 months. That's why I dropped so much money at the mall this weekend lol
 
OK... am I allowed to say "no textspeak please"?
 
2:39 PM
@ton.yeung It's Kendall.
 
@JanDvorak GitHub.
 
@GNi33 if you say The Amity Affliction again I will murder you
 
@Loktar Yes, yes you do.
 
Seriously, I will start kicking.
 
:)
 
2:39 PM
@Loktar I have 2 1080 monitors. I don't feel the need to get anything better yet
 
user1596138
Don't leave Fiddler running overnight lol..
 
user1596138
 
can you guess what band followed?
 
@ndugger good good, are you stretching?
 
@Josiah Holy shit dude.
 
2:40 PM
@GNi33 ummm BMTH? lol
 
@ton.yeung I suppose I missed the announcement?
 
Spoken of a memory leak
 
@ndugger you are wasting your money then
 
@SterlingArcher nah, it only was KSE
 
2:40 PM
Only KSE?
 
like putting a V8 in a pinto
 
Fuck you man :(
 
@ton.yeung Probably missed it every time
 
yeah, BMTH would have been a lot better obviously
 
!!afk putting a V8 into a pinto
 
2:40 PM
:P
 
TAA and KSE in one night is like.. my dream concert
 
er wasting performance is a better way to put it
 
@Loktar Why would you want to run JS on a pinto..?
 
@Loktar It's absolutely stupid, like an imp fireball takes almost 40% of my health in one go. A Mancubus missile drops me to less than 20% most times if it hits.
 
@Loktar lol, I know. I'll upgrade my monitors eventually, but I'm spending a ton on the computer. I don't want to spend more than I need to right away
 
2:40 PM
brb PM needs me
 
@bjb568isnotapebble Why should I make it CW? Thats not what that is for.
 
We Came As Romans did play too, and ABR a day before
was a good weekend
 
@ndugger fair enough, as long as you are aware you can do better eventually :p
 
Eventually, I'd like to get an i7 in there as well. I'm only spending enough for an i5 right now
 
most i7s are worthless for gaming
i5 is fine
 
2:41 PM
oh?
 
@ndugger 2 things you should not compromise on:
Monitor, and PSU.
 
Saw we came as romans live once, didn't like them tbh, awful live performance
 
@SterlingArcher and the best thing was, I had a photo pass, so I was right in front of the stage with my camera for the first 3 songs
 
A monitor you sit in front of hours at a time
 
@MadaraUchiha psu?
 
2:42 PM
@ndugger Power supply
 
er I dont mean worthless, but I mean compared to an i5
 
You know, not as bad as asking alexandria live or so, but not good either
 
you dont get a significant perf boost
 
A faulty one will take down random parts of your PC with it, or burn your house down.
 
2:42 PM
Halton Arp!
 
there is no use to get i7 if you have a good i5
 
was the guy
:P
 
Seriously, I'm not even exaggerating here.
 
The Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies is a catalog of peculiar galaxies produced by Halton Arp. A total of 338 galaxies are presented in the atlas, which was originally published in 1966 by the California Institute of Technology. The primary goal of the catalog was to present photographs of examples of the different kinds of peculiar structures found among nearby galaxies. Arp realized that the reason why galaxies formed into spiral or elliptical shapes was not well understood. He perceived peculiar galaxies as small "experiments" that astronomers could use to understand the physical processes that distort...
 
perf bonus isn't that big
 
2:42 PM
I saw someone's house down burn down over a faulty PSU.
 
that is a good brainfuck talking about red-shift and expansion of the universe
 
@Neal The idea is to make it community-editable, so a community resource. It's not just any other Q-A pair.
 
haha
 
How do you protect from that?
 
yeah I always buy platnium rated now for my primary PC
 
2:43 PM
@bjb568isnotapebble CW is pointless
 
Corsair for the last 8 years or so
 
Given that even anonymous users can suggest edits.
 
@ndugger An example:
 
and have a nice UPS as well
since power outages can also screw your PC over time
 
Corsair power forever
 
2:43 PM
Ah; Well I have my younger brother figuring out the parts list. He knows all about it and has built many rigs. I'm going with him to buy the parts from MicroCenter on Sunday
 
@MadaraUchiha Technical edits aren't fit for suggested edit review.
 
/me checks under desk
 
FBI
UPS
USA
CAD
 
cyberpower
 
@ndugger UPS = Uninterruptible Power Supply
 
@ndugger one of those things isn't free
 
@ndugger has a battery to keep the PC running
 
@MadaraUchiha United Parcel Service
 
@ssube USA?
 
and will shut it down properly when the battery gets low
 
2:45 PM
@Loktar I have one too.
 
Protects against power outages and current surges.
 
I trust my brother to get me the parts I need
 
look what i found on imgur: i.imgur.com/kphXW2W.webm Didn't expect
 
!!afk standup
 
Daughters machine I just built last week
 
2:45 PM
@ndugger thanks bro
 
er I think I posted that here already, nm
 
@ndugger NSA, CIA, DHS, SMDC, USCYBERCOM
 
@ton.yeung whatever Windows would normally do with a standard shutdown, I think you lose it
 
@ton.yeung ndugger?
 
2:47 PM
but maybe a third party program could help with that
 
Shopping around for a chart making library. Mist be usable server-side and produce svg.
 
@Loktar i use the UPS to shut down the machine properly if the outage isn't resolved in 10 mins.
 
@ton.yeung Nothing
 
Lots of options... anyone have a preference?
 
It keeps your computer alive for ~5 minutes after the power outage
So that you can save anything and exit.
 
2:48 PM
@ton.yeung the battery?
It does.. nothing..
 
Excellent... I have done no real work in the past few hours...
 
yeah I havent been in that situation yet, luckily
I should test that though
 
@jan I'm sitting on a bench waiting for the bar to open
 
Ergh, meteor is SO SLOW to build
 
@ndugger what would be the big workload that you need the i7 for?
 
2:49 PM
I've been saved from 3 power outages now though which is nice
 
@tereško ndugger is afk: standup
 
I'm sitting in my office...
 
@corvid What's your general impression with Meteor?
 
@ton.yeung Isn't that.. like.. the job of the OS?
 
I'm waiting for my office to open...
 
2:50 PM
hah built in UPS eh? :p
 
@ton.yeung You mean bloatware.
Yeah, had those.
 
I have UPS protection built into all of my laptops
 
@MadaraUchiha Seems like something that would be good for throwing together a small, impressive looking website that only has a few pages and simple data structure, but anything bigger than that is a nope.
 
@ton.yeung Um.
 
@littlepootis There's a daemon running on the machine, the UPS will detect power-off and will notify the daemon over USB.
 
2:52 PM
Ah. I get it now.
 
That's how most bloatware do it.
 
@ndugger keep in mind that, as rule of thumb, i7 has more cores at lower clock speed (which means, that in general i5 is a better option for gaming)
 
I'm with Jan. Laptops deal with all that for you.
Laptop + cloud
 
I just detect power-off via all the lights in the house turning off, save my work, and shut my PC down.
@Luggage Laptops for gaming are meh.
@ton.yeung If it's a short outage, sure
 
I have e a desktop for gaming.
 
2:53 PM
If it's a longer one?
@ton.yeung Non upgradable
 
I'd need one hell of a ups to keep gaming without power
 
Impossible to replace parts.
Generally harder to clean
 
My laptop hibernates when it's low on battery
 
@MadaraUchiha do you have some clever IoP solution for that?
 
@ton.yeung Link?
@ssube IoP?
 
2:54 PM
@ton.yeung it's a 1000 VA / 750 W from CyberPower ( price was 600 ish EUR )
 
I'm disappointed there was no macbook pro at yesterday's apple thingy..
 
@ton.yeung dem flashes while loading...
 
I have this:
 
user1596138
@Megaplex lol it seriously took me almost 10min to get that screenshot
 
@ton.yeung I love how they NEVER specify the goddamn price on these landing pages.
freaking marketing
 
2:55 PM
@littlepootis Win8? (n)
 
I get the best of both worlds.
 
@Josiah Good grief, haha. How much RAM you got in that thing?
 
@JanDvorak Not anymore.
 
@MadaraUchiha Internet of People. It's the successor to the internet of things, replacing rigid hardware with more flexible, multi-tasking humans.
 
@ssube unreliable
 
2:56 PM
@ssube You were totally waiting for me to ask, weren't you?
 
@MadaraUchiha yes
 
@ton.yeung We got a surface as a gift from work after signing a big client
@ton.yeung pro
Booted it up, got 2 screens into the installation, got BSOD.
MFW:
 
Macbook air is a Nissan leaf
 
@ton.yeung jeeze you have 3 external connectors on the laptop?
thats awesome
 
@bjb568isnotapebble It is still community editable :-) That did not go away.
 
2:59 PM
@ton.yeung lol, it's not a Lamborghini.
 
yeah that is really cool
display ports? or a mix of those and hdmi?
oh nice
 

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