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3:00 PM
There are people who believe in the existence of multiple universes.
 
I need to reconfigure my laptop. It's running old Ubuntu and a tonne of outdated/obsolete packages
 
In none of them is Macbook Air a Lamborghini.
 
I find big monitors or multiple monitors annoying and/or painful.
 
@Luggage Do you game?
 
A siingle 24" or 2 x 20" is my limit
I game.
 
3:01 PM
I do believe that this universe is embedded in a bigger one, with angels, God and such
 
I need at least two monitors to work at max productivity
 
Yea a big monitor is OK for gaming
 
I want a 21:9
 
We use laptops on docks. I just pick the laptop up and take it home, instant security.
 
Ohh two monitors is very useful, just painful
 
3:01 PM
I have a two-monitor setup, but I mostly use the bigger one
 
Turning my head
 
is what I got ^
 
I just wish I could put the external one sideways
 
I treat each monitor as a workspace. Then I can view two workspaces at once.
 
3:02 PM
@ton.yeung Like I said, 2 things you don't compromise on
 
Win
 
Monitor and PSU.
 
Also, RAM
 
It cost more than the rest of the rig combined.
@JanDvorak RAM can be replaced
RAM won't break everything you love and rape your sister.
A faulty PSU will.
 
My previous laptop didn't take the bigger sticks
 
3:03 PM
I'd take a new 24" 4k monitor.
 
A faulty PSU will rape my sister? How?
 
Not tiny text, clear text.
 
I use my 32-inch TV as a monitor some times. It's.. nice..
 
@littlepootis man I haven't hooked my PC to a TV since the 90s
 
3:05 PM
I have a macbook retina and don't want to ever see pixels again
 
user1596138
@Megaplex It's only like 16gb so it was totally dry lol. It's my work macvhine
 
Unworkable because you didn't change the DPI.
 
@MadaraUchiha get a 3440x1440
 
@tereško For gaming?
 
yes
also
 
3:05 PM
Link?
 
i.imgur.com/qzKS7Xd.webm she's going for distance
 
I do t k ow why no one understands that your text doesn't have to be 8 pixels high now matter the screen resolution. Look at you phone. That's probably high dpi
 
@tereško Very few games support that natively.
 
I'd still like one big monitor to rule them all core4.staticworld.net/images/article/2016/05/…
 
3:07 PM
@Luggage I always turn down the font sizes to around 8pt.
 
user1596138
 
@littlepootis about a half of what I own .. on the rest you get black bars on the sides
 
More code per screen
 
@ton.yeung mmm nooo
 
@Josiah there's a hole in the far left
 
3:08 PM
@ton.yeung I use a tiling wm
 
This is why high DPI monitors are still rare.. everyone w ants to fit as much text as possible then bitch it's too small.. :)
 
@ndugger
 
@SterlingArcher ndugger is afk: standup
 
@Luggage #clientsfromhell
 
@SterlingArcher He's going for speed
 
3:08 PM
@ton.yeung tiling window manager. You can't not use full screen.
 
@ton.yeung Linux talk for "I split my screen into workspaces"
 
@SterlingArcher my love for the outdoors came after I grew my beard.
 
I want small format 4k to match the laptop screen DPI I am used to
 
@Megaplex she's all alone (all alone) in a time of need.
 
Chuck
 
3:09 PM
@ndugger Testa?
 
@rlemon I love that we totally knew what the hell we were singing about, haha.
 
Yes
 
It's true though, once I grew a beard I instinctively knew my way to the nearest mountain
 
Cake is love, cake is life.
 
user1596138
@JanDvorak You have to get out somehow lol
 
@Megaplex Lies.
 
@Josiah elevator
 
@Luggage partially because UI scaling on windows is shit
 
A nice font on a high DPI screen is very pleasant to read.
 
@MadaraUchiha The band is not a lie. That bitch GladOS though...
 
3:10 PM
!!s/ UI.+on//
 
@MadaraUchiha @Luggage partially because windows is shit (source)
 
@tereško FTFY ^
 
It's not perfect on macOS, either, but mostly good
 
!!urban ftfy
 
3:11 PM
@MadaraUchiha FTFY [FTFY]Fixed That For You
 
@MadaraUchiha I own windows mostly for gaming
 
@tereško Same.
 
Why does SO keep notifying me about pings I've already seen and acknowledged?
 
> imgur.com/gallery/BoUNc8h/comment/664638626 - Instead of French fries, today I will be eating gay fries.
apparently I don't know how to markdown
 
3:13 PM
@rlemon <3 cake
 
May I correct your markdown?
 
What was wrong?
[]() is a link, right?
 
Yes. You did ()[]
 
I tried both ways
 
> Poutine without the cheese? That's totally gay. Well at least that's what I'm reading.
CC @rlemon @VeronicaDeane
 
3:15 PM
gotta have the cheese
 
From the help page:
> [link text](http://example.com "optional title")
 
CHEESE CURDS!
it is important, anything else isn't a poutine
 
@ndugger You had the url where the text is supposed to go, lol. [ words ](http)
 
anyways... g2g.
 
ohhhh.....
Definitely a brain fart
Cheese is milk without whey, so yes
 
3:17 PM
@ton.yeung cheese curds is a type of cheese
 
I think
 
Cheese curds in cuisine, or cooking, are the solid parts of soured milk either eaten alone or used in various regional dishes, mostly in Canada and the northeastern and midwestern United States. They are sometimes referred to as "squeaky cheese". == Production == Cheese curds start off with fresh milk. The milk is pasteurized, much like in the process of creating cheese. During this process, rennet is added to clot the milk. After the milk has been pasteurized, the result is a mixture of whey and the early stages of the curd. This mixture is then cooked. Next, it is pressed to release the whey...
 
> 'tis I
The frenchiest fry.
 
Wisconsin is known for their cheese curds
 
3:18 PM
ok... my office opened and I have a Moscow Mule. Time to get to work.
 
@rlemon I have the tool, I was just trying to figure out dugger's problem.
@Luggage What'd you use for the vodka and ginger beer?
 
I think it was stoly and goslings
 
Guys, I need help! D:
 
I wasn't watching the bartender, but that's what the menu said..
 
Thanks! That helped!
 
3:19 PM
I mean.. secretary.
 
nvm, probably not the help you needed :P
 
@rlemon I love that.
 
I need someone to explain SPA applications to me ):
 
Not bad, I use Tito's myself, and then some local ginger beer I pick up at the farmer's market.
 
And this too:
Paneer (pronounced [pəniːr]) is a fresh cheese common in South Asia, especially in Indian, Pakistani, Afghani, and Bangladeshi cuisines. It is an unaged, acid-set, non-melting farmer cheese or curd cheese made by curdling heated milk with lemon juice, vinegar, or any other food acids. Its crumbly and moist form is called chhena in eastern India and in Bangladesh. == Etymology and HistoryEdit == The word "paneer" is of Persian origin. The Turkish word peynir, the Persian word panir, the Azerbaijani word panir, and the Armenian word panir (պանիր), all derived from "paneer", refers to any type of...
 
3:20 PM
@JoãoPaiva single page application applications are exactly what they say.
 
SPA = Single Page application. That's where the browser only ever loads one page, but then just updates parts of it to reflect navigation. The user may not even be aware it's only "one page"
gmail is a SPA.
 
Yes, I understood that, but for instances
 
facebook, too
 
Twitter was
 
If I have a html template
 
3:21 PM
not sure anymore
 
within my spa
when I call it does it come from the server through an ajax call
or is it already in the browser
 
That's one way.
 
Also, I hate using SPAs.
 
it can
 
from the first request
 
3:21 PM
depends on the weight, use, etc.
 
@rlemon It still is.
 
that is all per-use based and there is no hard rule
 
oh, okay
 
For my SPA, I have all the templates ont he client and only ever get data from the server. Other SPAs may get rendered pages to insert into the current one.
 
so it depends
on what approach I want to take
cool
another thing
 
3:22 PM
@Luggage do you do client-side template rendering? in javascript?
 
Yup. It's decided by you and/or the framework/tools you use.
 
yea if you have like 3 templates you expect to all be used, serve them up (imo) in the original request. if you have many many templates that may or may not be used, I'd probably send them with the data
 
@JoãoPaiva Yes. One thing that's common is that there's no "native" reloading.
 
@bitten Yup. all client-side.
 
but this is just my sour opinions
 
3:23 PM
@Luggage okay, nice
 
I heard that I shouldn't be making requests from my SPA to a Web API. Why?
 
i have done the same too, but often got a lot of hate c:
 
That the spa should live inside another server application
 
@JoãoPaiva You probably should.
 
and that application should contact the api
 
3:23 PM
What does "live inside" mean?
 
@JoãoPaiva security? over zealous engineer?
 
You need to make requests to some backend from a SPA, but what you might have heard is to not make requests to OTHER people's web apis due to CORS or security concerns
 
you're being told to proxy all requests from your own server? to public apis?
 
^
 
noo
Let me start again xD
 
3:24 PM
:P cool
 
You're talking about isomorphic development?
 
I have an AngularJS client side application, that makes requests to an ASP.NET web api.
 
Sounds normal so far.
 
I was advised, that my spa should live inside, another asp.net application, and that the communication should be spa -> asp.net app -> asp.net web api
 
Now you lost me.
 
3:26 PM
wat
 
ohh you're being told to separate your webserver from your api server.
 
er
 
that is actually sensible.
 
Abstract storage, essentially
 
I think this would also help implementing Windows Authentication
In my spa
 
3:26 PM
but the client can still contact the api server directly.
that is kinda weird.
 
because it now lives in an asp.net app
 
@ton.yeung well "could"
if it was wanting to be open
 
nothing wrong with using a web api 'directly'.
as long as it does client auth.
 
@ton.yeung but then separating them also doesn't gain from it. so..
 
I need to authorize users against AD
So I thought the best way was to implement Windows Authentication
on Web API
and SPA
But using windows authentication everything is automatic :B
 
3:28 PM
your SPA is not any different from a normal web page.
 
I can focus on the business logic of my applications isntead of rebuilding the wheel
 
@JoãoPaiva Implementing Windows Authentication is more problems than solutions.
 
I thought that If I enabled Windows Authentication on my Web API, that when I made calls from my SPA the browser would take care of the Authentication
 
um, no
 
@JoãoPaiva Do you work in a closed network?
 
3:30 PM
@JoãoPaiva nah, use LDAP
 
That might be possible, actually.. does IE do that with "ajax" calls?
 
if you're on any kind of recent AD controller, it speaks LDAP well
 
not a good idea.. but.
 
@Luggage No.
 
ok, then.
 
3:31 PM
It does that with hacks, horrible horrible hacks.
 
then I agree. not a good idea.
Even if it worked, it might limit your browser choices.
 
I don't think newer versions of IE even support that anymore..
Where's @Sampson when you need him?
 
But the non-api parts could give you a token and then you use that for the api, so using windows auth is still possible..
but.. yea.. I prefer making it cross-browser form the get-go
 
@ton.yeung Close, from the IE dev team.
 
3:33 PM
"auth server" could just be a single endpoint on the web api server.
depends on scale.
 
does anyone know what the resize border and handle is called in the image I attached?
 
Yes i'm working on an intranet setting
 
We're talking Facebook scale here/
 
I have user AD
I first wrote the ldap querys myself
but then realized that Windows Authentication might be a better option
 
LDAP is fine.
 
3:35 PM
WAIT!
There's another reason.
 
Waiting...
 
It's because I don't have access to the user password
That I thought this would be the best way
 
Can I stop waiting, now?
 
Yes ):
That was it xD
 
i didn't realize this chat room was async
 
3:38 PM
I understood what he meant xd
 
!!tell ton thejoke
 
@ton.yeung :D
 
I'm sorry, so what do you guys recommend, in this setting. An spa application that consumes services from a web api in an intranet setting with user AD?
I'm only calling at spa because I have to use angularjs :(
Because it was the requirement :/
angular js frontend
asp.net backend
What do you guys think about
 
3:44 PM
about what?
 
using asp.net for backend and frontend, but inside the frontend application using angular'
??
 
meh.
do what you gotta do, but I'd never choose that.
 
I'm sorry, what is idsvr?
 
Requiring you to use something for the sake of using it is stupid and you might want to start looking for a new job. Unless they have valid reasons about why they want you to use a specific library or framework, they're just clueless and grasping at straws.
 
The requirement was
 
3:46 PM
I agree with ndugger (ugh) but you also making assumptions. This could be part of a larger angular ecosystem.
was what? come on, complete a sentance now and then
 
WE WANT TO REFACTOR ENTERPRISE APPLICATIONS WITH OPEN SOURCE TECHNOLOGIES
 
@VeronicaDeane ohhhh you should try this! (one sec)
 
Reading vertically is annoying.
 
@JoãoPaiva ARE YOU THE OPPOSITE OF PHP_CEO?
 
3:46 PM
@VeronicaDeane ^
 
basically there were 3 apps built with sharepoint and they want to centralize business logic under a web api
and remake user ui with powerful frontend framework
 
wait
I got the wrong link
 
well, angular is better than sharepoint.. so that's good.
 
@luggage
exactly
 
@VeronicaDeane sorry, this one ^^
 
3:48 PM
oh, saw that
 
asp.net MVC + knockout.js might be easier and all open source.
 
Didn't you post it earlier?
 
I thought asp.net would be a good choice for the backend :r
 
@VeronicaDeane yea wasn't sure if you saw it
 
I guess rlemon got a 4k monitor recently..
 
3:48 PM
@Luggage TV
which does have youtube :P
 
same thing
 
@ton.yeung I pressed enter by mistake x(
 
A tv and monitor are the same thing just like an ipad and iphone are. Same thing, different form factor.
 
@JoãoPaiva As long as you're using C# and not VB, it's a decent choice
 
don't even get me started on VB.net..
 
3:49 PM
Of course! C# all the way :)
 
VerBose.NET
 
ENDIF
 
So you guys think angular and asp.net don't mix well?
 
We don't really like angular here
 
oh XD
 
3:50 PM
We like programmers with curves.
 
I had no idea! so what's your recommend frontend javascript framework?
 
@JoãoPaiva That one that works for you.
 
^
 
Knockout.js. It have lots of exmaples and support with MVC and it's more of a narrow focus than Angular so it's easier to get your head around
 
as long as it isn't angular 1
 
3:52 PM
I am ;~;
 
don't
 
@JoãoPaiva Angular 1 is fine
 
My dream stack is Postgres, Node, React.
 
Angular 1 is rotten spaghetti
 
Just take note that it will be deprecated in a few years, because Angular 2 is about to be released for production.
 
3:53 PM
Till september
 
@ton.yeung Last I checked it was RC.
Almost there, but not quite.
 
i'm using latest version of angular 1
1.5 smth
 
The latest version of rotten spaghetti is still rotten spaghetti
 
@JoãoPaiva You should know that Angular 2 is called "Angular", but is a completely different framework than Angular 1.
If you wish to upgrade, you'll have to basically rewrite everything.
If it's not a long term project, and you already know Angular, go for it.
 
My only concerns was that it was still in beta
 
3:55 PM
@JoãoPaiva It's in RC now, it's essentially 0.999999
 
release candidate. I think it makes sense to start new development with it
 
OKAY
I WILL
 
GOOD
 
THANKS GUYS!
It makes perfect sense!
 
3:55 PM
Death to angular 1
 
I hate angular1 so much, with the use of typsecript everything will be much easier!
No more horrible syntax
i know
but shhhhh
 
I also don't like typescript
Keep javascript typeless
 
I feel like TypeScript is dumbing me down, honestly.
 
I can never win with you guys!
 
3:56 PM
@JoãoPaiva You'll hear opinions from everywhere
 
I thought it was cool to write a scripting languar as oo
 
Learn to filter and use whatever you feel like, and drink haters tears.
I love the salt.
 
My opinion is the only opinion that you need. I promise.
 
I normally go frameworkless in my apps
People give me salt for it all the time, but it works for me, so whatever.
 
PURE JAVASCRIPT?
madness
 
3:57 PM
I love it @MadaraUchiha
 
Javascript is easy
 
doing the same thing, all the way
 
@JoãoPaiva Not really. I just know how to write abstractions in JavaScript.
 
You're better off frameworkless for most projects.
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm with you on this
 
3:58 PM
^^
 
Most devs need a framework or a language to do it for them
I don't vOv
 
but I don't work in a team. I imagine working in a team, having the IoC from a framework would be handy
 
Enforce objects and classes and whatnot (looking at you Java devs!)
 
I do like react/flux when working with electron, though. It makes me feel less like I'm playing in a browser
 
@rlemon Sometimes you can't use a framework even if you want to
Imagine being a 3rd party on someone else's page
 
3:58 PM
WTF, Mapquest broke all their shit.
 
eventho I find myself often enough writing the next mini-framework (always better than the one before :P) but it really works out for me alot better doing it myself / vanilla
 
@jAndy The Game
17
 
You can't load a library onto someone else's page.
 
2 minutes until Nintendo presentation gaming.youtube.com/…
 
3 times in a day. Savage.
 
3:59 PM
seriously... it's like a .5% chance per message
math is broken today
 
@jAndy Go fill a lottery ticket.
 
I was always a lucky guy
 

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