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17:00
@copy python is the last one I've learned and used
@copy I don't say that the days I have to write in Java. And unfortunately there are many days I have to write in Java.
g'morning
Java, as a language, is fine. It's the JVM that gives me rashes
@dystroy ah so it was just a regex issue...
@BenjaminGruenbaum U WOT M8
17:03
howdy @SomeKittens
@NickDugger The other way around
I do wish I could work with newer versions of Java, but I'm fine given that I can at least write targeting 1.6.
At least it's not VB
Some of the codebase at my work is 1.5, and it's gross. Generics, please.
17:05
@FlorianMargaine yes, or maybe a logic issue...
I really want to refactor a bunch of old code to use Java 8 features, but I don't have that option.
Is there an easy way to safely iterate an object in JavaScript to test for a key?
@darkyen00 ?
When the user click on an image I need a popup of that image to be displayed, is there something within JQuery that does this?
17:07
@corvid I thought there was, but I don't remember how.
@corvid for...in
oh, that makes sense.
@GNi33 that make up (twitch)
i just saw their performance, it would off been way better if they'd just sing
@darkyen00 don't get me started on makeup
17:08
@ShotgunNinja not that kind of makeup -__
@FlorianMargaine There's now a mighty makefile computing the list of modules for uglify
@darkyen00 I'm a costumed performer for a Rocky Horror cast
so I meant theatrical makeup
(and nail polish)
@darkyen00 would have (I don't know why this bothers me so much)
:o wow
@GNi33 Maybe cause they are german ?
yeah, their shows are more theater performance than actual concert at this point
17:09
I fucking love costumery.
I enjoy them though, not listening to their stuff anymore, but if I catch them at a festival, it's always fun
It was funny but :-/
i kinda felt they could do much much much better
@ShotgunNinja I did a lot of theatre, I am good at makeup :D
had a possibly cool idea: so, we all know our code editors, define function somewhere, call it somewhere else. If you want to quickly edit the function you need to look for the function definition, and that could take time, also continuously needing to scroll is annoying
I once played portia from the merchant of venice
17:10
so this is what we currently have:
when i was 15 full girl makeup :P
and 6 inch heels -_-
@rlemon woot. I wouldn't call what I do with Rocky "theatre", it's shadowcasting.
@darkyen00 what performance did you watch? I think they're still pretty solid on stage
17:11
what if we changed it to this:
I've been in a play through my college as a couple of bit parts, but that's my only legitimate theatrical experience.
@GNi33 Hurricane
fancybox was my answer, thanks guys
2013
the ending was terrible :-/
17:11
Some turd marked my Q as a duplicate: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/256345/… -- go and upvote this more
@ShotgunNinja during HS I did two shows for searsdramafestival.com each year, and in my grade 11 was in three.
@towc there are IDEs that do that
the dj running with his ass on fire, i laughed but didn't feel the punchline\
either the functions can be defined in the same file, and the popup just quickfinds them, or they're specified in another file
then after HS I did a few public ones for the city
17:11
it's freaking horrible imho
@GNi33 like?
@towc That already exists. It's very hard to do in dynamic languages like JavaScript though. Finding the definition of a function can be as hard as executing the program
not sure right now, but I think even Eclipse had this once
Sweet deal. Yeah; most of the time when I wear costumes, it's for totally non-theatrical purposes. Cosplay at conventions, doing Rocky Horror, working at a haunted house, going to Renaissance Faire, etc.
@copy maybe have the user do it. For quick stuff like codepen it shouldn't be hard
and if it gets too complex, just tell the user that it got too complex
17:13
@towc Do it
@towc In sublime, I just use F12 with code folding.
I do what I love so I can say I love what I do.
@copy I mean, I can imagine how could someone do it, but I don't think I'd do something decent myself
@ShotgunNinja I love my girlfriend....
so I suppose that phrase holds true
@rlemon I love mine, too.
17:14
@towc Start with a parser (use an existing one)
the codepen engine's already ready
it can see when a function is defined quite well I think...
just the front-end needs to be done
Ah, lame
adding another div in which you can edit the code should be as simple as adding an element for codepen
then it's just connecting the dots
@towc umm, how to see codepen do it?
I mean, example?
I thought I've always wanted that feature on codepen since I started there, but I don't think there's a working example anywhere
I just sent like 10 prolly very annoying tweets asking codepen if they could try to implement it
17:18
@Anyone, in order to have a Q be a duplicate, does the suggested Q have to have an answer? The help docs suggests that marking as a duplicate is to help users find the answer they are looking for.
@NickDugger Duplicates don't need to have an answer in order to be a duplicate
> The fundamental goal of closing duplicate questions is to help people find the right answer by getting all of those answers in one place.
really? I disagree
here's where the chain starts
that actually shouldn't be hard to code, even in js. Maybe have a separate file called hiddenFunctions, and you put those in that? @codepen?
@SomeKittens ?
@towc lol
17:21
@BenjaminGruenbaum Your "get in your way" comment
(and ST does that too, I just have it turned off)
Geezus flipping Christo. Now I'm arguing what a duplicate means in the comment section.
@random The docs clearly state the purpose of marking as a duplicate; your suggestion does not match that case; your argument is invalid. — Nick Dugger 1 min ago
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/05/12/why-dont-you-come-alone/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
Why don’t you come alone?
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@NickDugger just ignore it
he thinks it is a dupe.
so what?
He actually kinda won...
question is still open
17:28
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Q: Why can a feature request or bug report without an answer be used as a duplicate target?

Richard TingleBackground On the main site questions cannot be closed as a duplicate of a question which doesn't have an upvoted or accepted answer. However; that doesn't seem to be the case here on Meta where I've seen feature requests and bug reports closed as duplicates of unanswered questions. Question W...

They need to add this to the help docs somewhere
no he didn't
> This means collecting all the votes for a proposal in a single place; this means voters can be directed to the master feature request - a single feature request with +200 is far more powerful a statement that 20 identical feature requests with +10 each.
yours is higher voted
if anything he shoot his own argument down
but that is moot. ignore him and move on.
I agree; mine should still be kept open
care to explain, this wants me to watch the series [or atleast this part]
If Trees Make Oxygen What Makes Trees?
dude wow
@darkyen00 gtalk?
17:37
@dystroy push it :P
@AwalGarg sure
I want has web sockets in my new app
how do
there is a jQuery plugin for that
Any chance you could be using pure TCP instead?
ws = new WebSocket("mosh.org"); ws.send("ping"); ws.onmessage = function(response) { console.log(response) }
17:40
@FlorianMargaine It was, just not in master. github.com/Canop/miaou/blob/makemods/Makefile
@JanDvorak explain
@dystroy ah, my bad
No, no, I should have precised. I'm still trying to figure what I could have done catastrophically wrong with that
Makefiles are fun but full of traps...
./build/miaou_modules.txt: $(MIAOU_JS_SOURCES)
	@mkdir -p $(@D)
	@echo "$(MIAOU_JS_SOURCES)" | sed -r -e 's/\s\S*miaou\.(\w+)\.js\b/ \1/g' -e 's/\s*\S*\.\S*\s*|^\s+|\s+$$//g' -e 's/\b\s+\b/,/g' > $@
oh god :D
@Mosho A web-socket is a two-way real-time connection between a server and a client, pretending to be HTTP, on top of a TCP stream. A TCP stream is a a two-way real-time connection between a server and a client, pretending to be nothing else than it is.
17:42
looks like you reinvented browserify
@FlorianMargaine Yes, sometimes not everything is obvious...
@FlorianMargaine probably
@JanDvorak WebSockets are very light (and the only option when connecting from a browser)
but I really like my module system (I'm using it in several projects at work too). I prefer to use 10 complex lines of mine that a big module system whose code I don't really know
@copy sure, but pure TCP is way cooler :-D
@JanDvorak But TCP pretends to be a complex low-level protocol which only techies can understand. It is just sending and receiving of data packets :/
17:44
in HTML / CSS / WebDesign, 18 mins ago, by BoltClock
http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/35peeu/cmv_google_chrome_is_curren‌​tly_the_most_overrate/
if anyone wants a good lul
guy is bitching about chrome, but his comments show a very very very poor understanding of how anything works.
Hi!!! Is anyone of you familiar with Matlab?

plot(t,y,'-bo',t,y,exact(t),'-r*')
??? Error using ==> plot
String argument is an unknown option.
I get the above warning message..
Why?
@evinda This is the JavaScript room.
Ask on Main
but asking was ok, here, IMO (some of us could have known)
there is no Matlab room on SO, so the most recently active room got selected I think.
I rewrote my question on Meta. Much better now
17:46
@NickDugger I don't like your "mine has more votes" comment at the top
sure it is true, but it just seems like you're bragging or something
@AwalGarg and making sure they're sent/received
Mind tossing in an edit?
I'm a little bit confused about the basic setup of requirejs with the node_modules, let's say I have a server.js where I do the following:

var connect = require('connect');
var serveStatic = require('serve-static');
var requirejs = require('requirejs');

requirejs.config({
//Pass the top-level main.js/index.js require
//function to requirejs so that node modules
//are loaded relative to the top-level JS file.
nodeRequire: require
});

requirejs(['jquery'],
function (jquery) {

});


connect().use(serveStatic(__dirname)).listen(8080);
A ok.. I found the mistake..
Dammit fuck. Closed as a duplicate.
Fuckers
17:48
@copy Any link you know for a lazy coder wanting to start learning vim in a lazily way (and not terribly excited with the usual tutorials focusing on moving the cursor) ?
mine is funnier
@Trufa I've used requirejs but never on the server, only the client.
although it doesn't get you very far
17:49
@Luggage ok, maybe I'm confusing stuff then, I want it for the client
I shouldn't be doing it on node then?
@copy the french version sounds like a google translate
@Trufa You are missing the part where you compile the assets (using r.js) and serve them to the application.
@FlorianMargaine "words are not words" I am not sure I want to follow this blasphemy
@KevinBrown I am following this guide requirejs.org/docs/node.html but it's kind of confusing.
@NickDugger you need to get better at the meta game. it is all about finding a diamond to quote so you can win your argument
17:52
I don't like Tim
@Trufa That appears to be for when you are using requirejs with node (on the server side only - for loading in server-side modules).
@KevinBrown oh, ok, so I am confused about that then, I should be installing with something like bower instead of npm?
@KevinBrown I still don't understand because you have things like bootstrap in npm, which are only for client side
@Trufa Generally you would combine/compile all of your assets using the optimiser and then serve the combined file on the client side.
both questions are clear on their intent; "remove the partial username match pings". I don't know why this is such an argument. the end goal of a feature request is to get a status-complete. If this question is gaining traction let it stay open and close the older one. — rlemon 31 secs ago
and now back to work.
@rlemon are people on Meta usually this anal?
17:56
yes
I now hate meta
@Trufa You can also do your requirejs.config call in the browser, if you are including the require.js scripts on the page as well.
@KevinBrown ok, but I call directly the requirejs script from my html
?
yea. if you do it right, that's the only one you call directly.
or a script made by r.js
<script src="require.js" data-main="myapp"></script> or something like that

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