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9:05 PM
cya
 
@SterlingArcher: I responded on that meta thread, if you're interested in reading it...
 
@SterlingArcher why?
 
crl
s/ a / the /
 
What meta thread?
 
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MrsEdWarning may contain offensive material rated MA ;) You have twisted the whole notion of bringing to light issues that can strengthen the be nice policy into some polarised hyperbole representing struggle between reason and hysteria. I totally agree, I'm tired of walking on egg shells. edit ...

Our resident womens' rights advocate felt it was necessary to bring the women in code debate into my "walking on eggshells" thread
 
9:08 PM
@Cerbrus excellent post
 
Thanks
My response to her answer may be a little less excellent, but meh...
 
that answer doesn't even make sense
from an English perspective
 
@ssube: Don't criticize her style! That's oppressive.
 
this one is solid:
I suggest you take a step back, read over this answer again, and reconsider if this is really how you want yourself to be represented on SO. I'm not going to respond to this answer's contents just yet... — Cerbrus 1 hour ago
 
@Cerbrus Bah. Racist/sexist slurs in chat are never needed, it's probably inappropriate for a potential moderator to make off-color jokes, but out-of-order rants of that extreme are just... not good.
 
9:12 PM
It's was just a "My eyes are up here" joke.
Resulting in a employee posting something like "Yea, we should be careful since someone obviously is offended"
 
Which isn't good but isn't horribly awful. It is off-color, which most people can get away with. When you want to become an authority figure, you gotta be careful of that.
 
So, because someone takes offence to something, suddenly, fun is no longer allowed
Oh come on
It's harmless
 
My beard is up here, m'l8y
 
I've seen mods act way worse
 
m'bacon
@Cerbrus wow, took 3 comments lol
 
9:15 PM
Oeh, bacon <3
Yea
 
@Cerbrus Most of the time, probably, yeah. I still think mods should be more careful than your average user.
Side effect of being the person supposed to keep the peace. You have to, at least publicly, seem neutral.
Like super duper switzerland neutral.
 
@ssube: I disagree. I don't think we should have separate standards at all.
 
interesting subreddit
 
Hold everyone to the same standard.
 
@Nick What do you want me to write about?
 
9:16 PM
@Cerbrus I don't entirely disagree, but I think mods should be held more accountable.
 
Sure, but don't make a problem out of something that isn't a problem, just because it's a mod
Why would it be a problem for a mod to make a "eyes up here" joke, but not for an ordinary user?
What's the difference?
In the end, they're both users on here. They're both people, and their words can both hurt just as much.
 
Bricks hurt worse
 
Because when some ordinary user makes it and another one gets offended, the mod has to sort it out. If they're already publicly biased, it doesn't help their authority. People think they're just taking the side they always do, call bullshit on them, etc.
Like US cops shooting black people.
We know the cops like doing it, so when they do, we assume it's the cops' fault now.
The people in charge aren't supposed to take sides, they're supposed to represent everyone equally.
 
Biased? What are you talking about?
I'm talking double standards here
 
they're not biased if they agree with me!
 
9:20 PM
I'm talking about how badly I have to fart right now
 
Never gamble on a fart
 
You shoot someone, you've got a problem. No matter if you're black, white, green, cop, civillian or cow.
 
@Cerbrus Your regular jackoff has some more leeway, because they don't have authority. The people with the sticks have to be extra careful.
That's my opinion.
 
crl
not if you shoot yourself after
 
Why should they have more leeway?
@crl: I'd call "being dead" a problem.
 
9:22 PM
@Cerbrus Because if the person with the stick fucks up, people will want to take their stick away.
 
crl
right :)
 
I don't think regular users necessarily should break the rules, but they're less likely to ruin everything if they do.
 
@ssube And if someone without a stick fucks up, he gets a stick (where he doesn't want it)
Architect? We're developers here
 
@Cerbrus Right. But that system doesn't work if you can't trust the people with the sticks (see: the cops).
So the people with the sticks have to be extra careful.
 
And why wouldn't you trust them? (also, our mods)
 
9:23 PM
5-10 years? Project manager
 
crl
@ton.yeung I really wish so
 
If not director of IT
5-10 is a large range
 
@ton.yeung I'm still studying. I'm not planning ahead that far yet
 
@Cerbrus If they sit around talking shit about User A all day, then when they take the stick to User A, it makes it look like they were just waiting for a chance.
 
9:24 PM
And then my code will be for hobby, or to help the youngsters
 
The cops and black people.
 
racist
 
nice read, pam
 
@ssube Hey, I'm not saying it's okay to talk shit about users
 
I am saying that
 
9:25 PM
I'm just saying mods and users should be held to the same standard.
They insult someone, they get a floggin' (and possibly lose their diamond)
 
@Cerbrus Fair enough. I'm coming at it from "there will be some screwups and they'll do less damage for people with fewer buttons"
 
We insult someone, and we get a floggin'
 
Have more buttons, be more careful.
 
Floggin's for everyone!
 
I like flogs
 
9:26 PM
Floggers are good
 
Frogs are a diverse and largely carnivorous group of short-bodied, tailless amphibians composing the order Anura (Ancient Greek an-, without + oura, tail). The oldest fossil "proto-frog" appeared in the early Triassic of Madagascar, but molecular clock dating suggests their origins may extend further back to the Permian, 265 million years ago. Frogs are widely distributed, ranging from the tropics to subarctic regions, but the greatest concentration of species diversity is found in tropical rainforests. There are approximately 4,800 recorded species, accounting for over 85% of extant amphibian...
 
@ssube I think that applies less to chat than to moderative tools
But I see what you mean.
 
flog is to flag as fog is to ssube
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badum-tsch
 
I just don't completely agree :P
 
Get out >=(
 
9:26 PM
</3
 
@Cerbrus Your basis isn't wrong, definitely not disagreeing with that. Just being cynical about it.
 
@ssube Oh, and don't use the rubber ones.
 
fuck off with you're grammar
 
triggered
 
grammer*
 
9:27 PM
of*
 
*of
*u'r
 
oh god
 
pls
 
fk ff wth u'r gammer
I'll just show myself out
 
fuk mor chikin
 
crl
9:30 PM
!!!dnd.drag&&!dnd.new or !(dnd.drag||dnd.new)
 
@crl !dnd.drag&&!dnd.new
 
Well, back to south park :P
 
!!youtube south park pc chant
 
This past episode was pretty decent. I think they're gonna wrap up the PC storyline.
This last episode had to do with internet ads
which was really relevant to a discussion we had in here yesterday
 
9:39 PM
@SterlingArcher it's already our new anthem
 
@Nick That's good, they kind of wore it out.
They went way too hard on it and have never kept a plot for that long before.
 
Well, they're making an important point, but yeah, they need to move on
 
Ooo, I finally discovered the solution to everything in meteor
 
Delete meteor?
 
@SterlingArcher this last season is pretty great
The last episode in particular with Jimmy
 
9:48 PM
The meteor solution is always BAM! SPACE GUN!
 
@copy Pretty close. Although, the only thing that is incredibly useful is observing cursors/objects, really. I feel like it's better to just make a node project and add something for that
 
Extended apologies to the people I've offended here today and the discord. I'll take a short break from meta and reflect upon how I can improve my communication skills. — MrsEd 1 min ago
She hasn't replied to me... Oh, and deleted her post.
 
@Cerbrus I know I flagged it. The way she wrote it certainly had no business on meta.
 
She deleted it herself though
Still, nothing lost
 
Yea. It's funny how some questions really bring out the crazy and neurotic in people.
 
10:00 PM
Whoa there
"neurotic" may be a bit too harsh
 
Did you need me to add more sarcasm to that?
 
And a pinch of salt
 
I'm salty enough for five, we're good.
 
10:19 PM
wait, so you can make very simple chats using nodejs without websockets, right?
since you can write to files and all of that, no need to p2p or peer to server to peer temporary stuff, just peer to file, file to peer thing, right?
or wait... nodejs code can't be run by the client...
 
crl
there should a sort of opposite of a ternary, for setting one or another property to the same value, like if (b) obj.x=v; else obj.y=v;
 
obj[ b ? 'x' : 'y' ] = v
 
obj["yx"[b]]=v
 
crl
oh right
 
@copy assumes b is boolean or 0/1, not same behaviour :P
 
10:26 PM
@Cerbrus NEARLY EVERY QUESTION NEEDS EDITING. And what the fudge is wrong with improving the quality of something? If you can't handle extra bandwidth: work on that instead, don't just disallow or discourage the use of those features. — username 57 secs ago
 
maybe obj['xy'[!b]]=v
 
What the fuck
 
crl
+b
 
+!b would work
 
@crl could be a number bigger than 1, not same behaviour as an if
!!> console.log('xy'[true]);
 
10:27 PM
@towc "undefined"
 
property names are always cast to a string
 
crl
@towc I like yours better anyway :)
 
@towc "undefined"
 
oh, ok you do need the plus
 
Oh, huh
 
10:29 PM
btw, I absolutely love vim. No particular reason actually. It just looks hacky and I don't have to use the mouse
I wish I was born 20 years before I actually was :(
may regret it
 
crl
I'm a stupid mouse user :(, can't get converted to keyboard-only editors
 
@crl tbf I hated trying vim on a terminal emulator
 
Windows, Eclipse, mouse. I'm apparently the minority among 1337 hax0rz
 
installed ubuntu 3 days ago, now I'm in love with the terminal
 
I used to be a really big Ubuntu fanboy
 
10:32 PM
so I got to learn how to love vim as well I guess
 
10:42 PM
Is it possible to use JS to "snip" a part of page and convert it into base64?
 
crl
like an image capture? there are things like html to canvas
 
Well, I guess. Now that I think about it, pretty much like the Windows snipping tool does it. Except, just the web page only.
 
it is possible, although it's pretty unreliable
check out html-gl
that's the fastest method
then you can just get data from canvas.getImageData( sx, sy, w, h ); like a snipping tool
then put that into an in-memory canvas, and convert the canvas to blob, now you have your image
 
crl
or simulate a drag and drop on that element and get the auto-generated dragImage, nah jk don't think it's possible to 'read' it
 
Alright, here's the thing. I want to be able to do this on any website. Not just mine. There's got to someway to execute JS code in a console, which turns the current webpage view into an image and allows you to select part of it, right?
 
10:46 PM
but it's implementation dependent. Not sure if html-gl has it's own html interpreter or if it finds a way to use the browser's
@DemCodeLines html-gl does let you do that
 
@towc So if I go on Facebook right now, which is a third-party website, I can do that?
 
There's also html2canvas
 
yeah
 
I like how you're doing your own research
 
@copy cool! Had never heard about it
Yeah, I should shut up more often
 
10:48 PM
I've used it to make this piece of art: copy.sh/xkcd-688.html
 
crl
!!s/ to c/2c/
 
@crl like an image capture? there are things like html2canvas (source)
 
crl
:p
 
@copy lol, is it from the "number containing as many ink molecules as it's representing" thing?
 
The contents of any one panel are dependent on the contents of every panel including itself. The graph of panel dependencies is complete and bidirectional, and each node has a loop. The mouseover text has two hundred and forty-two characters.
2
 
crl
10:52 PM
I don't get the last one, location of black ink? they mean the first black point detected?
 
xkcd oneboxes! please don't direct link xkcd images ;(
(you don't get hovertext)
 
@copy oh, I was thinking about this what-if.xkcd.com/106
 
Oh, right
 
crl
and first panel seems pretty independant, no ignore it
 
Is there any difference between self-invoking function vs variable when using module.exports in node.js ?
I mean:
module.exports = (function(){ var something = anything; return something; })();
vs
var something = anything;
//some code...
module.exports = somthing;
 
11:05 PM
No
You don't need to hide your variables, so the closure is useless
 
What you mean by hide the variables? am i hiding the variables when using self-invoking funcs?
 
Yes
In Node, that's not necessary though
 
crl
more useful in <script>
 
Hmmm, thanks:)
How safe is use query strings in express routes?
 
crl
safe as long as it doesn't contain a porn-encoded base64 image
 
11:13 PM
Jaja
 
11:52 PM
I don't know if any one remembers this bug i found in Chrome: jsfiddle.net/7vc487zg but i found a work around here: jsfiddle.net/5zaayLvg encase any one was interested
 
What the heck, I thought AWS was free for school students or something.
 
@DemCodeLines you can get a micro EC2 thing for a year
 

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