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7:00 PM
@Cereal Dude, I had to beg my grandmother to get me a guardian account when I was like....13 for that.
 
well, that's following deer hunting, which I guess is a sport
 
@ShotgunNinja You know where the eagle point barge is?
 
@Trasiva Right? lol I loved AQ
 
@SomeKittens I dunno what they're talking about either
 
@Nick that twitch lol omg
 
7:01 PM
@Trasiva that's over by Platteville; I'm on the other side of WI
the cool side
 
@Cereal I still get on it sometimes, haha.
@ShotgunNinja I go fishing there all the time when I'm up in Dubuque visiting family and I need a break from them.
 
not bad
 
!!youtube slipknot custer
 
HAPPY FRIDAY <3
 
7:02 PM
most of upper and west Wisconsin are pretty similar: very rural, not much to do, hilly and forested
whereas southeast Wisconsin is far more developed into suburbs and cities, and is far more flat and plains-y
 
Minnesota is better
I'll keep saying it
forever and ever
 
you're probably right
 
Wisconsinites are really aggressive and rude drivers
 
I fucking hate Wisconsin sometimes
 
It's like driving in Texas
 
7:03 PM
@Nick Until you drive around the Baltimore/DC area, don't bitch.
 
It really, really depends on where in the state you are.
Southeast Wisconsinites are slow and ploddish drivers
except Milwaukee, where everyone drives 15-20 over
 
@CapricaSix that looks like pizza
 
Northern Wisconsin drivers are more polite and respectful of others, but quite a bit slower
and I haven't been out to West Wisconsin enough to know how they drive
 
@Nick I don't even have to say it, everybody knows my state is better than yours
 
or Southwest
 
7:04 PM
Midwestern drivers are so apathetic
it's impossible to get anywhere
 
right
except for Chicago area
 
That's because Chicago isn't part of the midwest
 
Hey can anyone tell me how can i change input checkboxes to false using javasript document.getElementsByName();
 
@nick fuck you and your beliefs
 
it's an east coast city for all intents
 
7:05 PM
<3
 
pretty much, it's like New York Lite
 
@AkashKumar Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@nick NY > CA
 
Milwaukee's a weird blend of personalities
 
Oh please
 
7:06 PM
there's no real cohesive city image
the East Siders like to think they are the city, just because they have downtown
but the vast majority of the city is tied up in the ghetto black North Side
the south side is gays and Mexicans
southwest is all Hmong and Vietnamese
west and north are all black
northeast is all rich white jerks
 
But Where Are The White People
ok
 
var startingObj = {
  'one' : {'default': 1, 'name': 'un'},
  'two' : {'default': 2, 'name': 'deux'},
  'three': {'default': 3, 'name': 'trois'}
}
undefined
Array.from(startingObj).forEach((k,v) => {
    console.log(k,v);
});
 
and Bay View, south of the south side, is white working-class (and respectable gays)
 
How come it's not logging anything?
 
@ShotgunNinja when you say NE, you mean Navy Pier, Wacker Dr. financial district area?
 
7:08 PM
@Codeman I'm talking about Milwaukee, not Chicago
 
oh, lol. Derp
Never been to Milwaukee.
 
but the cities are almost mirror images of one another, if the mirror was distorted to make things look smaller on one side
 
!!s/Chicago/ChIraq/
 
@Trasiva @Codeman I'm talking about Milwaukee, not ChIraq (source)
 
7:12 PM
Lol @ Public Fellacio District.
 
@SomeKittens I have a fantastic idea
 
PIE?!?!
 
1. Send me an invite to Hired
2. Write a recommendation
3. Profit
4. PIE
 
alright lets see
@ton.yeung tests?
 
7:14 PM
@nick I'll send you an invite to Hired, I got 4 offers from that site :)
 
@SomeKittens can you check your referral count? I just used your link but I already have a profile so I dont know if it counts
 
@nick come be my butler
 
@ton.yeung I think you're thinking of a different site. Hired just hooks you up
are you thinking of Indeed, maybe?
 
@ton.yeung I didn't have to take any tests through hired
 
I just did Hired and I had no tests.
 
7:16 PM
@ton.yeung I never had to do the tests
 
Maybe you're thinking of Toptal.com
 
@Codeman Already got invited a while ago
 
aw :(
 
@Jordan Dude those Toptal tests destroyed me
was not prepared
@Codeman I was trying to bribe Kittens with referral money to write a rec
 
is Toptal for freelancers only?
 
7:17 PM
yeah
 
Me too. The codility tests were not too hard. It was the screen share test that got me.
 
actually I think they let you apply on behalf of a company as well
 
huh... I was able to pass all sorts of tests in my interviews. It was mostly C# though
 
but the vast majority are just freelancers
 
@nick doesn't look like it
 
7:17 PM
JS interviews are rough. C# interviews they're just like CAN U DO THIS TREE PROBLEM, DERR
 
@Jordan which one was that?
 
I'll still help you out if you want
 
@SomeKittens I'd appreciate it
 
@nick That one comes after the online tests and before the final project. So stage 3 of the interviews
 
I love this room
@Jordan Didn't get that far unfortunately
 
7:19 PM
Let's all watch Frozen, and hold hands
 
I live near coprorate madness and ugly regular houses
 
@Nick sounds good
 
@Codeman same is with PHP interviews. It's no to much about PHP as it is about: "do you know this version control, how do you optimize this DB structure, how would you implement event sourcing, what VMs have you used, what's the largest project you have done with websckets .. etc"
 
fuck yeah
 
Hmm, according to the map, I grew up around "milfs"
 
7:22 PM
 
@ton.yeung fuck houston
 
Post judgemental maps of every Murican city please
 
/me used to work in Twitterland/minefield of human feces
come to think of it, I've been to the communist vegan grocery store
 
these maps are based on what?
 
@Codeman I'm interviewing for a position that I assumed would be mostly Node or even Java. Their screening questions were super low level stuff though, it caught me off guard
 
7:23 PM
or just a joke
?
 
@ton.yeung the "Rich People" are is accurate, though. I lived in the Energy corridor for a while before I finally came back to Minnesota
 
~humour~
 
I wasn't dirt poor, but it's a decent area
 
@SterlingArcher I love how the gay BJs are across the river from the fucking nation's capital
no wonder gay marriage was legalized (btw: woo)
 
@nick everyone ever is terrible at interviewing
 
7:24 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAH
 
Starfighter is Almost Readyâ„¢
 
@SomeKittens I want to check out the Howler Monkeys
 
I've gotten badass at interviewing
 
I'm going to lose at least a weekend to it
 
@SomeKittens lol rainbow bjs and hobo bjs and super gangs are very prominent in SF
 
7:25 PM
@Nick same here but it's annoying to gain a skill with barely any relevance to job performance.
 
I usually have a lot of confidence going into interviews
 
@nick
 
@diego
 
@ton.yeung how so?
 
@Nick What Is The Difference Between The Stack And The Heap
 
7:26 PM
@nick The what and the what?
 
@nick The Stack has better dinner specials but The Heap's shows are off the wall.
 
@nick The stack are the people waiting in line, and the heap is what's left when kendall's mom is done with them
 
@ton.yeung disagree. You're good at bad interviewing.
modern tech interviewing does almost everything wrong.
 
yeah alright that was pretty much my response
 
what do you think is the correct in interviewing @SomeKittens ?
 
7:27 PM
one thing though that was embarassing is I struggled to differentiate processes and threads
 
Think of interviewing like a filter. Start with the sorts of people you'd like to NOT be filtered out.
 
but yeah, I live in the area listed as "MKE's Brooklyn"
 
Name All The Types Of STL Containers In C++
UHHHHH
 
Ugh, I hate make files.
 
Programming trivia filters out a lot of good folks who are quality coders but don't do trivia.
 
7:28 PM
Fucking. HATE.
 
@SomeKittens its unfortunate
 
agreed @SomeKittens
 
gotta play the game though
 
you want to see how they perform in a regular job situations. Which means an editor they're comfortable with, building to a real task (not fizzbuzz) and access to Google/SO.
 
yep
 
7:29 PM
I had an interview for a startup in Houston called "Macrofab"--the position was for a front end developer, but all they asked me was about security and server architecture. The one front end related question was a trick question where he only wanted me to say that I would use a library.
 
the #1 thing that goes wrong is interviews are a high-stress situation by nature. You need to do all you can to lower that stress.
 
@nick I had a guy (in a C# interview) ask me to write a regex to validate email addresses. Then he asked me to write a function that did a bitmask to determine configuration bits in a byte for a Windows Service initializer
 
thats true
 
I was just like "is this real life? are you serious? is that at all relevant to what I will be doing for you?"
 
7:30 PM
@Nick gg
 
After all, there are HUGE numbers of coders who are great at what they do, but not under stress in an unfamiliar environment.
 
I just chalked it up as a bunch of noobs that didn;t understand what they wanted, so I moved on
 
@Codeman I don't even regex
@Codeman what was his response?
 
@ton.yeung I wasn't, though. I knew exactly what I'd be doing
 
@nick I got my current job because I impressed the shit out of my boss with my regex skillz
 
7:31 PM
it was for a Java job at a company that does distributed code builds
 
Well, I also knew what I was talking about, and had answers to his questions
but also regex
 
Here's a good question: what happens if you write syntactically-invalid code at work? You run it, see the error, fix it. Why on earth would you fail an interviewee for missing a bracket?!
 
@Nick well fuck I'll add that to my list of trivia to learn
 
@SomeKittens at my company, the applicants need to develop a little system within 3 days, and we analyze the project based on some categories, before asking them to interview.
 
@Nick my response was "...you do realize the actual RFC email regex spec is several kilobytes, right?"
 
7:31 PM
I've got two types of interviews I run: Talk about code, write code.
 
@SomeKittens What if you don't run it, see it, fix it?
 
@DiegoFaria Take-homes are a great step up!
 
@DiegoFaria lol really?
 
@SomeKittens how 2 use whiteboard cimpoler
 
Take homes that take longer than an hour or two make me laugh.
 
7:32 PM
though they come with their own set of problems
 
@SomeKittens You don't fail an interview when you forget a bracket, do you?
 
@ton.yeung I've dug through so much terrible bleck I'm fed up with it.
@copy Actually, I have.
 
i did a test at amazon, it had a lot of stress
basically i could not resolve one of the problems because of stress
 
crl
I did a free one-week test too, for my current employer
 
I turned down an interview at Amazon, because I didn't want to move to Austin
 
7:33 PM
@Codeman just implement the full spec on the whiteboard
 
HAHAH
 
what community should i ask how to create a twitter hash tag on, because i can't seem to find it
 
@crl ouch one week?
 
@SomeKittens Well, you don't want to work for that company anyway
 
if(gender=="male") alert("hello sirs");
else if(gender=="female") alert("hello ladies");
else alert("LOL, what are you ?")
 
7:33 PM
Can't Be That Hard
 
@copy yuuuuup.
 
:-D
 
it was five sessions of coding, untoppable
 
crl
@Loktar yea, that's even me that proposed it
 
at a whiteboard
 
7:34 PM
hello @all
 
a lot of algorithms that you see at college
 
I've failed companies because I saw how their interview filter was calibrated and I didn't want to work with the people who passed it.
 
crl
I'm a slave
 
but stress got me out
 
@Nabi my daughter loves your tablet.
 
7:34 PM
@3.14159265358... Creating... a Twitter hashtag? Don't you just tweet and use # followed by letters or numbers?
 
thats a nice thought @SomeKittens
 
Like, you literally just type #{whatever}
 
@Loktar my long is 18 cm :-D
 
your what
 
7:35 PM
LONG
 
was referring to that.
 
kids tablet ?
 
@SomeKittens that site design just touched something in me
something special
 
My favorite interview is giving the candidate an hour to implement Minesweeper. They have google, etc, whatever they want. I provide the icons (shouldn't test 'em on how well they can find icons). I deliberately tell them they're not expected to finish due to the time limit (helps put them at ease).
 
@ton.yeung get rid of those curlies and you're good to go
@SomeKittens that's a really good exercise
 
7:36 PM
after time's up, we talk for a bit about what problems they hit, how they solved them, etc.
 
@ShotgunNinja i thought you had to create one before you use it for new tags
 
@Cereal nice profile photo
sebilo !
 
@3.14159265358... nope, just write it
 
Lately I just ask devs to make a modal.
 
I'll take creepy as fuck for 600, alex
 
7:36 PM
Since its applicable.
 
write it and hope it catches on
 
Something they should actually know how to do.
 
who is the best on javascript here ?
 
@Loktar $('#modal').dialog();
 
@ShotgunNinja Fun anecdote - I provide my laptop (some bring their own). One guy searched for something, found a SO answer, then copy/pasta'd from a deleted answer (he was on my account).
 
7:37 PM
@SomeKittens I'd get bogged down trying to implement a perlin noise generator for the board
 
didn't work, obviously, though he managed to fix it, gained a few points in my book.
@nick doesn't matter to me, you're not supposed to finish, remember?
 
@nick Perlin noise? I'd just do for i = 1..N and do random generation with retry
 
@Nabi In this room, we all are gods.
 
But I have to finish
@ShotgunNinja dunno man
 
@ton.yeung Yep, but no one ever does.
 
7:38 PM
Is Foo#bar fairly standard notation to indicate "a method, bar, which all instances of Foo have?"
 
@Trasiva and where are you come from ?
 
@ShotgunNinja everything I create must be beautiful
 
Perlin noise may be sufficiently random, but we don't need sufficiently random, we just need pseudorandom placement
 
@Nabi A galaxy far far away, in a the very distant future.
 
7:39 PM
his face...
 
the most common mistake I've seen is something like:
 
why would you need a perlin noise generator for minsweeper crazy overkill.
 
yeah good point, perlin noise actually wouldn't be good for minesweeper
 
@SterlingArcher he's just like "I don't remember that shit, I was high as fuck"
"must've been good though"
 
Is that picture real?
 
7:40 PM
var BOMBS = 10;
var BOMB_CHANCE = BOMBS / NUM_SQUARES;

// iterate over all squares, putting a bomb on if Math.random() < BOMB_CHANCE
 
dude, way easier
 
^ find the bug!
 
but it might be more than 10 bombs
 
@SterlingArcher sadly that is shopped.
Good shop tho
 
Can you invoke a getter function within a class?
 
7:41 PM
@nick right
 
:27013777 yeah generating random positions for each bomb would be smarter
 
screw it, taking it to pastebin
 
that's the only way to do it @nick
 
class B {
  get cats() {
    return cats.find();
  }
  get catFacts() {
    const myCat = // invoke the getter method above
  }
}
 
@ShotgunNinja nerd snipe'd
 
7:42 PM
otherwise there is no guarantee all the bombs will be placed.
 
@rlemon :(
 
If you generate random positions; you could get stuck picking the same positions over and over.
 
@Retsam just recheck.
 
^
 
7:42 PM
Imagine how long it would take if you wanted to randomly place 999 bombs in 1000 squares
 
Like how you position food in snake
 
^
 
O(N^10000000)
 
@Nick You. Fucking. Twat. Waffle. Fucking. Nerf. Herder.
 
have 2 sets of cells. Taken and open.
only do a random check on the open ones.
 
7:43 PM
@Trasiva If it makes you feel better, it's a real headline; here's the real article: popsci.com/congress-approves-space-mining-bill
 
@Trasiva lol so gullible
 
who is "RemovedAbandonedClosed"
 
Obama
 
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@ShotgunNinja Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
@rlemon i meant on a question i had deleted
 
7:45 PM
var x = Math.floor(Math.random() * WIDTH);
var y = Math.floor(Math.random() * HEIGHT);
for (var i = 0; i < BOMBS; i++) {
    while (!board[x][y]) {
        x = Math.floor(Math.random() * WIDTH);
        y = Math.floor(Math.random() * HEIGHT);
    }
    board[x][y] = true;
}
 
nerd sniped
 
He's a user.
 
@Nick I'm not even sure how to fel about that.
 
that can be cleaned up, but that's what I'd come up with
a do..while instead of a nested while
 
no point
oh I thought you were talking about the for loop mb
 
7:47 PM
no
 
---------- 10 Minutes left to vote ----------
 
if you run an ajax call, and console says undefined when you run the innerhtml, how do you get it to not say undefined?
@Nick i vote for you in this room
 
Thanks man
 
Thanks man
 
I need 6 votes in 9 minutes
 
7:51 PM
@SterlingArcher i also vote for you
 
god dammit
guys he's 5 points behind BJB
 
@nick what?
bjb?
 
blowjob brad
 
A vote for me is a vote for Randy Magnum
 
7:52 PM
amen
 
@Nick while a lot of folks might not like bjb, that's not exactly appropriate
 
who is bjb exactly?
 
don't worry about it
 
7:53 PM
@ShotgunNinja What Are They Doing
 
Someone said "blowjob brad"
 
probably just a back massage amirite
 
@nick my favorite number
@ShotgunNinja in depth
 
haha
 
oh come on -- no one has seen Rocky Horror?
 
7:54 PM
That looks like Friday the 13th: an XXX Parody
 
@ShotgunNinja of course we have
 
@SterlingArcher That's Rocky Horror in a nutshell: parody of cheesy horror films and late-night "adult films"
 
sounds gucci
 
5 more votes ._.
 
where do i vote?
or veto
 
7:56 PM
@nick gucci louie
 
versace versace
 
Jordan needs 6 more votes
to overtake bj
 
show the vote link
 
!!youtube kreayshawn gucci gucci
 
7:57 PM
NO NO NO
 
@nick no no no
 
highly relevant to javascript
 
who am i voting for again by ctrl+f
 
@SterlingArcher I'm sorry to say, I think you lost to bj :(
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
7:58 PM
@Nick technically only three, you can vote both ways.
but I'm not saying do that or anything
 
true
 
oh man I even downvoted bjb
 
:( This is a sad day for JS
 
@SterlingArcher: I did what I could.
 
7:59 PM
30 seconds left; he needs 3 more points
pls
vote gods pls
 
i need more reputation :(
 
5 seconds
 

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