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6:32 AM
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!! :D
 
6:52 AM
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9:30 AM
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9:56 AM
good morning!
 
10:25 AM
o/
I love Javascript! :3
I don't know why it's frowned upon. When done right, it has no weird issues
 
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Hmm. Actually, nothing interesting was said on this day last year.
 
@R15-Zucc Don't speak unless spoken to.
 
 
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11:40 AM
@Taseer Because it was pretty awful for a long time. lol
If I remember correctly, some guy designed the language in like a week or two, because Netscape decided to include a scripting language at the last minute.
But yea, unless you're doing something with serious performance requirements, most arguments against it are nonsense at this point.
The type stuff is still pretty stupid though.
 
 
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1:10 PM
@Ninja I'm alright, I have a bit of a sore throat though. What about you?
 
 
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2:19 PM
yoo
o/
 
2:48 PM
the universe is such a piece of shit sometimes
 
3:30 PM
@twiz TBH, it's liberating from the over-engineered Java conventions
Most web apps are IO intensive anyways
Node is great at it
Run an instance of Node on 4 servers and connect them and now you got yourself a multi-core, multi-threaded Node lol
 
4:24 PM
@ballBreaker did the bank take the money back? lol
 
haha not sure actually if they have yet
 
hi
crabby cra
 
@twiz nah it was because despite the statistical probability of like .. 1 in a million, I ran into the girl that broke my heart (the other month) on saturday
and the timing of it was extra shitty
so I just feel like I'm getting punched while I'm already down
I swear I'm cursed
 
The odds of running into someone that lives in the same city probably isn't that crazy really.
 
it's pretty crazy
 
4:37 PM
well, sucks either way
 
@twiz give the man some love before rationalising it :D
@twiz hahaha sorry, sounds like your flow is: logic -> comfort not the other way around XD
 
Everyone knows that the comforting means more after you kick them.
 
lol
 
XD
 
worst part was that I had a date on friday with a girl and it seemed to have gone really well.. had really good chemistry.. then she ghosted me the next day. then I ran into the girl that hurt me heart
 
4:39 PM
maybe you have a "type" you should consider changing?
 
right before my DnD session I was hosting lmao
@Mehdi smart, funny and good looking? lol idk
 
dig deeper, something more subtle about personality lol
 
there really isn't enough to go from before meeting these people with that regard
but yeah I've been trying to dig into that
 
@ballBreaker Maybe you should try a DnD dating app? lol
that's gotta exist, right?
 
the problem is that my love life has been garbage my whole life, I've gone back and made a timeline of my girlfriends and trying to get a bigger picture going and I'm realizing that I've just always been shit at dating
I'm good at one night things or casual things, but beyond that... horrible
I'm pretty sure I am the problem
 
4:43 PM
@ballBreaker so the only other constant and shared denominator is you? maybe you should reminisce your dates and see what makes them grimace? :/
 
kinda hard when they just ghost you and disappear or end things and not want to talk to you anymore lolol
but yeah
I'm pretty confident in what my problem is, but I'm unsure at a solution
 
well you or them being the problem is kind of just two sides of the same coin, isn't it?

Obviously some things would be pretty much universally be considered flaws though.
 
I think it's a mix of my anxious attachment style combined with loneliness.. so I come across very strong, and when I meet a girl that I'm into and we have chemistry, I end up bonding way too fast. I've been in therapy for it without too much success at improving
It's kind of a cyclic problem that has a feedback loop on itself
I can basically sum it up:

I get interested in a girl -> end up going too overboard (i start hyperfocusing on them, fantasizing, etc) and they pull back, which makes me push harder -> they end up breaking things off or disappearing because it's too much -> I retreat back and try to re-asses myself and analyze my patterns to try to improve -> I get lonely -> repeat

Problem is that each cycle it gets a little bit worse
I've tried breaking that by dating girls I'm not that interested in (which ends equally horribly but for different reasons).. or trying to attempt to not get too interested, but it's borderline impossible for my brain
I feel like I'm fighting between my ADHD and anxiety constantly with this, combined with the damage my parents did to me that gave me a shitty and not-normal attachment style
I try really really hard to improve and not get so attached so fast, but it's soooo fucking hard lol. Part of me just hopes I'll meet a girl that doesn't get scared off by that. but i unno. I know I need to put work in as well and keep putting work in
but I also have a bit of a perfect storm fucking my brain
v0v anyway thats my rant
 
4:59 PM
I realise whatever i could say could make it sound like what you're dealing with can be easily solved or that I'm diminishing the problem you have -> not my intention
But did you try giving yourself a rule, that says: be aware of your problem prior to going on a date and remember it, let the dates be all around them, and have a second rule: go with the flow when contacting someone, don't contact too often (say: only once a day at the beginning) and don't push it if you see they're not receptive for whatever reason
Maybe parallelising would also help, if you contact 5 people once a day, the likelihood of your day being filled with interactions is higher
Would that make sense?
Another rule, no answer today and no answer tomorrow = don't contact again in at least a week, then give up on the person
 
I've tried that before yeah with mixed success. I'm really not good at all at imposing rules on myself and my addictive personality and total lack of willpower doesn't really allow me to follow through with any long term success. The anxiety of not responding will build and eventually bring me physical pain to the point of where I cave and then respond to relieve the pressure

For the second point though, I do try to exercise that to the best of my ability.. I try to usually talk to multiple girls at the same time so that I don't hyperfocus on one too much, but it always kind of ends up hap
good rules though, I just wish I could follow them
I think I'll try to do that this time around though.. to the best of my ability. I haven't tried following a ruleset for a while
maybe I'll be better this time
 
You can disguise it into a "code" or something, something that would make you feed your ego and make you feel better
"she didn't respond, it's disrespectful, nevermind, i won't contact her again, i'm not desperate and I'm worth more than that"
You know what I mean?
 
yeah but the anxiety usually overwrites that pretty fast lol
it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't feel that
I wish there was an easy solution like youre proposing
 
Yeah I'm unfortunately aware, hence the:
14 mins ago, by Mehdi
I realise whatever i could say could make it sound like what you're dealing with can be easily solved or that I'm diminishing the problem you have -> not my intention
 
at the end of the day though my brain hates focusing on basically everything except for women and that is the core issue
even if im doing something that is like my top 1-3 things to do itll always be more powerful and always has my entire life lol, I need to work on that but I'm not sure how
ill have to try the rules this time though, get some written out and try to ruthlessly keep to it
 
5:17 PM
What does your therapist suggest?
 
she's given me some tips/exercises to try to work on the anxious attachment style that work with varying success
I think part of my issue is that I have this notion that the person I end up with, should be wanting to be with me for who I am.. so doing things that are outside of that feel a little disingenuous to that point.. but I also realize that there are aspects of my personality that would be unattractive during the initial stages. So I get torn between like.. being who I am, and trying to be this other person
But I realize I probably need to like, find a middle ground in my mind in that
I used to really practice dating and meeting girls, etc, and it worked well for me but it was so geared towards casual flings/hookups, and when I decided I wanted to move from that into something serious, I kind of abandoned those practices because they felt like "player" or "fuckboy" kind of stuff
But I'm realizing that they still have their merits obviously, but part of me like doesn't want to "play the game" anymore
So I want someone to be with me for who I am, but I also realize that showing who I am fully upfront is probably too much for people
so I need to like.. find a way to ease into it, or just wait and hope that someone will come along that likes it
 
Yeah, imo, first stage is around charming each others, can't see each other's red flags here, second stage is around getting to know each others and third stage around setting boundaries, negotiating and compromising on positions etc.. or just realizing it won't work
Don't go to 3 before completing 1
 
right...
I don't really understand how
and that's not just with women
I'm just an open book, period
idk if you can tell.. but I'm not really good at holding back
lmao
 
5:33 PM
I think laying out everything about a person should be a privilege to deserve and acquire, people rarely deserve to have a deep look into a person
 
hmm yeah I'm kind of the opposite
I am what I am and if someone wants to know anything about me I'll tell them
 
For me it's: hey tell me whatever you want about yourself, then let's discuss topics of interest, then you'll get to know me as we hang out and you ask more targeted questions
 
yeah same, I guess my process there is just more condensed
 
@ballBreaker yeah it's a personality thing, nothing wrong with that, just gotta let the stage to the other person as well so they're not bored, people love to talk about themselves
 
haha yeah I'm good at that part of it, letting people talk about themselves and what not
 
5:48 PM
I probably just need to go back and re-analyze everything and see where I have some areas of improvement and try to make some concrete steps (and rules) to trying to get better in some areas
on a bright note, it's snowing right now :D
which brings me joy
 
Nice! Lucky you :D
How is Scala?
 
I haven't learned as much as I should have by now probably..
I'm doing some tickets but they haven't been super scala heavy which is probably good because of the above statement xD
lol I wish my priorities in life were better
 
I feel like you're putting yourself under unnecessary pressure tbh
 
kind of agree
 
Just take it easy, one day at a time, the work for home doesn't suit everyone, that could explains the stress
 
6:00 PM
most of the stress is coming from my adhd right now tbh
it's been negatively impacting a few different areas in my life lately
 
I hope it gets easier for you man
 
heh thanks man
I may need to cut down massively/quit smoking weed or go onto some stimulant meds.. I'm just kind of going with the flow here to see
my mind is just always focused on the wrong things and it gets me into trouble haha, always has though. Not sure why it's ramped up so much in the past 4 months tho
thanks for listening to all my shit, it helped to get it out
 
@ballBreaker Ah well yes, all the dopamine excess released must have a counterbalance effect, and that's usually feeling Down lol
 
I don't really feel down from it, but it's more that it hinders my focus even more
You mentioned a key point there though, about the excess dopamine.. ADHD typically is trying to maximize dopamine w/ least amount of effort
and I think my night time weed smoking ends up negatively affecting me the next day when it's time to function properly w/o it
 
6:17 PM
o/
 
yo dude
 
sup
i've decided to make an app
for logging weightlifting sets
because i had one i started using, used it for about a week, and now it wants me to get premium to do anything
so i said fuck it i'm gonna make my own
and it'll be free and i'll steal their buisness
the app i was using is pretty straightforward it wouldn't be hard to add more features like cloud saving
 
how long into using your app until you make them need premium to do anything lmao
 
i was either thinking of charging for the app, or make it free with ads and include the option to pay to remove ads. then everyone can use the features of the app without paying a subscription. i hate the subscription model for things like this where everything is happening on your device
i understand a subscription if i'm paying for something cloud based, but when everything is local what's the point
seems greedy
maybe i could make some kind of social features later on. add friends and see each other's progress
 
yeah makes sense
the ads + paying to remove them is the best model I think
 
6:33 PM
yeah that way there's no barrier to entry and i can make a bit of money on ad revenue
 
( as a user)
 
this will be the first time i've actually had to save data to the device's local storage in a mobile app
i think i'm going to use sqllite
and then if and when i want to implement cloud storage i can integrate firebase
i'm using react native but i'd probably use flutter if dart didn't feel so foreign to me
@JBis 👀
 
o/
 
sup nerd
 
just finished implementing a linked list for CS class
 
6:45 PM
ooo i wonder if i have my code for my data structures class still i think i wrote one of those
nope linked list is the only data structure from the course that i didn't implement lol
@JBis you're using C++ right?
 
@Smarticles101 unfortunately
 
haha
as much as i hate C++, I think it's interesting having to use pointers and stuff. kinda forces you to understand how memory works
 
@Smarticles101 lol damn bro u should go back and learn, and relearn it because every fucking job interview will have questions on it xD
unless you go for a good company, at least
Also I got a shout out in my sprint review for the ticket I did last week and the CEO looked impressed
ayo
 
lol that trial is so cringe
 
6:51 PM
i don't think i've laughed harder watching a trial in my life
 
when the guy is like "so you have 300 confirmed kills in call of duty.."
 
14:13
 
I was like o.o
 
"your username on tiktok was four doors more whores"
 
lmao
the prosecutor kept asking funny questions like that
 
6:52 PM
@ballBreaker this one too
that dude is losing his job after this
 
it's so obvious he was pushing for a mistrial
 
@ballBreaker whats a sprint review
 
agile
 
yea agile shit
sprint (here at least, it varies) is 2 weeks of work, there are 3-4 sprint standups per week, a sprint review at the end after a release
 
tasks/issues are segmented into sprints
@ballBreaker y'all use jira?
 
6:54 PM
i prefer tmobile reviews
ha! jokes!
 
@Smarticles101 yeee
 
gross
 
I used to HATE jira, but then I realized that I just hated old JIRA
all my companies used like 2008 jira until this one
 
interesting i wonder what version i had used
could've been newer, but i didn't use it often enough to get familiar with it
 
I have no complaints with this version, it's much cleaner
makes it easy to group the tickets into the proper teams and sprints, etc
 
6:58 PM
i wonder what makes programming so hard for some people who excel in other parts of STEM
 
not a ton of extra BS needs to be included when making the tickets
 
like some people here just don't get it
 
programming for sure takes a certain mindset to be good at
i feel like more people struggle with breaking problems down rather than syntax
 
@Smarticles101 this
but how do u teach that
 
exactly
in the short time i spent tutoring, most of the help i gave was assistance with breaking down the assignment
 
7:01 PM
uh oh, our last project was just released
it's machine learning. send help
 
i feel like the best way to learn that mindset is by doing it, but it's hard to do it without some examples to start out with. and the way that most courses go, a lot of people get left behind because they go so fast
@JBis dude what class are you in xD our school doesn't even touch machine learning until the 400 level courses
 
yeah... define "machine learning" for a first year course lol
 
> In this project, you will write a program that uses natural language processing and machine learning techniques to automatically identify the subject of posts from the EECS 280 Piazza.
Can't tell how much of that we are actually implementing yet
 
there's a lot of overlap between engineering and programming, but outside of that for other STEM courses, like for example, Biology, or Doctor.. there is basically 0 overlap
 
7:04 PM
I would say the number 1 skill required for programming is thinking logically
and lots of people struggle with that
@JBis I'm assuming here that the machine learning aspect is going to be a black box
I'tll probably just be a function with an input (or multiple) and an output, and you won't touch it
 
probably
 
that's my assumption too. i imagine that will be written for you already
 
still seems dumb to start with this stuff imo
 
@ballBreaker yeah that too. logical thinking as well as being able to break down problems in discrete steps are the biggest learning curves people face. most people aren't accustomed to such literal and logical thinking
 
did you guys take discrete math?
i gotta take that next and i've heard its extremely hard (at least here)
 
7:08 PM
i feel like programming has made me better, or at least helped me retain my algebra/math skills. math has a lot of "algorithms" that you have to follow to solve problems
@JBis yes and it was somewhat painful
 
hmm
 
mine was especially weird though because there's just been one professor here who teaches it. he wrote the textbook himself, and he makes everyone use emacs and elisp for the course
so it was an especially steep learning curve
 
lol thats brutal
 
yeah i knew a few people who swapped to software engineering instead of computer science so they wouldn't have to take the discrete maths courses
 
josephg.com/blog/3-tribes this is a good article
Going back to a conversation we had before, it seems schools focus almost exclusively on "Programming as applied mathematics" and sometimes "Programming as hardware hacking". Almost never "Programming as a tool to make things".
 
7:28 PM
@JBis I think that's probably giving them too much credit. I'm not sure anyone is actually putting any thought into it. I don't imagine many schools ever think about the classes they offer as long as they're making money.
In other words, they're focusing on the things that were important when they first created the degree program.
probably in the 70s or something.
 
I think that schools usually start with the "programming as hardware hacking" and then "programming as applied mathematics" before moving more into "programming as a tool to make things"
actually no not in that order, more of a mix of all three
I think it's fundamentally important to understand a mix of all 3. Eventually most people end up using modern languages to make software for others, and they won't care about the first 2 views as much, but learning the first two will shape you into a better developer in the long run
 
in theory....
 
true lol
 
if "better developer" means more hireable, then... maybe..?
 
7:43 PM
I think most schools teach "programming as applied mathematics/finance/science"
 
Well, it's certainly true for very specific jobs, and they probably are the best paying jobs. I imagine you can get an outrageous salary if you're doing AI researching for some big company.
 
But it's gives the wrong impression
It says if you aren't good at "mathematics/finance/science" you can't be a programmer
 
Yeah, I was responding to myself, not you. haha
 
And imo, most people who focus on "programming as applied mathematics/finance/science" focus way more on the "mathematics/finance/science" and are actually shit programmers
 
More like their priorities are far different than what the average job requires.
 
7:47 PM
(sidenote this is all a bit ironic coming from me since i'm going into "programming as applied mathematics")
 
 
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9:43 PM
I did my first PR review, with the guy that did the PR and he explained it to me
and I just approved it because I had no idea otherwise
yolo
 
 
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