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07:12
@Tim nice
07:39
gotta listen to this and to the linkin park album today
07:51
you gotta listen to this youtube.com/watch?v=GA9_QJAhr8Q
08:04
or RHYE
do you know em t dog?
Tim
Tim
08:27
Nop
linkin park so 2004
Tim
Tim
2004 was a good year
Mab
Mab
09:35
Good day sorry for disturbing y'all
Don't the line -> " inherit the Car class from the Vehicle class " imply that the Car class is the super class and we're inheriting from it?
more like "inherit class A from B" -> A should just be super class
I have been in the middle of an argument
@Mab Vehicle is a super class, and you're inheriting from that class
Mab
Mab
What about inherit class A from B
"from b" means that B is a super class
Mab
Mab
OK thanks
10:04
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Jul 21 '20 at 14:34, by Ahmad
did yall see how thick zuckerbergs ass is
 
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11:18
@Tim which game
Tim
Tim
pathfinder kingmaker
o/
@Mehdi to what is this metaphor related?
just got back from the shrink
11:45
is that a good game?
Tim
Tim
going to the shrink is not a game grrig
xD
pathfinder
lol
@Tim as strong as mwb and knife
@Tim i see
Tim
Tim
12:02
@grrigore don't know yet. Only a few hours played, it is not an easy game
12:13
@MwBakker it really is not a metaphor, most frameworks and widely used tools / libs depend for very specific things on small obscure packages not many people know what they do, sometimes still hosted on sourceforge and maintained by 55y old Sr. Solutions Architect Richard from Wisconsin
12:27
noice
@Tim it can be
in fact the game itself is a game that you all now lost
12:57
@Tim hahahaha
13:11
@Tim then I don't like it xd
Tim
Tim
13:28
after you finish the tutorial you get an achievement and only 83% of players have that xD
weak 17%
o/
I want to ask for an advice related to tech stack
If you were given an option to work in:
1. Java / Spring Boot
2. JS/NodeJS
3- Go
Which one would you choose?
Tim
Tim
go
Any particular reason?
Tim
Tim
java is old and js is shit
That was my first thought too lol
I had an opportunity to work a little bit on Golang and I enjoyed it a lot. It took me less than 2 hours to get comfortable with the language
Easy to pick
Also, I was extremely shocked by how quickly it compiles, just a matter of few seconds
14:24
Java
but im a junior
14:55
heyo
I tried to build an app using the NotificationListenerService. After finding out that I need the manual setting to allow the listener binding, everything worked - until suddenly it stopped working (in the emulator).
I finally gave up debugging and just wiped all the data, after that it worked again... does anyone have any idea what could have cased that? There was nothing in the logs
I mean it works now, but assuming this problem appears on a real device I would have no idea how to proceed
@ballBreaker o/
Tim
Tim
@ballBreaker found a floating blue head and he is forcing me to re load an older save because there is no chance to beat it
Well, after a few restarts it does not work again. The listener is just not invoked.... What is happening?
@MwBakker how's it goin man
smog here is finally gone
@Tim haha damnnn dude
Tim
Tim
15:11
scares my party and they just run away with no apparent end to this effect meanwhile he is chunking them down in 2 turns
hahaha shit, I don't really remember that guy too well but I vaguely remember
hey
Tim
Tim
I don't understand how fear works in this game. Everyone is just running to the end of the map
like when does it end
endless game maybe
they want you to keep playing it
@Tim IIRC there's a skill/spell you can get to combat the fear
Tim
Tim
15:21
ok but you cannot cast it when you're feared
also I'm level 2 xD
I think it works pro-actively so you can cast it ahead of the battle haha but yeah you probably just needt o come back
later
@Tim what the hell is this
Tim
Tim
ok but I don't know that he is coming for me, and the auto save is after the combat started
it's fine. I'm just not a fan of "here is an enemy you can't beat lol just come back in 50 hours"
15:36
I feel like its your fault you can't beat him though
I never ran into an enemy I couldn't kill
lol
@ballBreaker you've fallen in love once haven't you?
Tim
Tim
'viscount smoulderburn' google him I'm not the only one :P
ohhh yeah I remember this fucker
Tim
Tim
they say he has 35 AC and like 150 HP
yeah I had to use all my good spells to kill him
melee and ranged was useless
Tim
Tim
15:38
I don't even have a mage, the purple midget was the only mage and he left
lol
why would you ever not have a mage still surprises me
what
Tim
Tim
I'm like 2 hours into the game at this point, where would I have gotten a mage
you make one urself
but fair enough man
I think you're in that area at too low of a level
I seem to remember being around level 4
Tim
Tim
probably true
but I just followed the path. There are 2 quests to do and this was one
15:42
yeah that's fair, I remember there being a few guys like that, where they were a higher level than everything else
it looks like that will o wisp is like level 13
nuh uh
yo
Tim
Tim
@ballBreaker I'll be sure to return at lv 14 and show him who's boss
15:49
hehe
IIRC he's kind of easy to avoid
I thought you had to trigger him from interacting with a well or something
Tim
Tim
yeah I camped somewhere and he came in the night
ahhh gotcha
lmao how unlucky
despite getting annihilated by a flying blue skuill are you enjoying the game?
Tim
Tim
it's nice so far
I did turn on the auto combat thingy because turn based is just too slow
but I have a feeling they don't use abilities or spells etc unless I manually tell them to
I think you can define some sort of auto-behaviour for the combat
but yeah I definitely switched back and forth between the real time and turn based
I liked having that flexibility
Tim
Tim
oh yeah there is an option
hopefully the healer is not gonna kill the undead girl
16:01
hahaha
I went chaotic neutral/evil and chose all the mean characters
the nihilist dwarf was my favourite
half of his voice triggers were like "ughh I wanna fucking die"
Tim
Tim
I'm also going the evil route
not sure who you mean though, I have the dwarf cleric who seems kinda lame
bB forgot that that's his main character
Tim
Tim
xD
I think that was him
herrin or something like that
dude is just so depressed
give him time Tim, you'll stop thinking he is lame
also Nok Nok was hilarious if you ever stumble on him
might have to pick that game back up and beat it
got drained after a bit under 100 hours
I think my main guy could attack 3 times in one turn
Tim
Tim
16:21
I will keep an eye out
but I have nobody to pick locks and no mage, not sure how
and my main is a ranger with a bow and somehow has like 22 AC
@DaveS bb is the villian in the game
last*
hahaha nice
bb upgraded getting paid to poop and chat to gettting paid for playing games
16:37
@Taseer depends on the project
But probably ts node or go. If ts isn't an option then go. Tim's right, js sucks.
what about ts?
i think jbis is the only one who talks programming here
16:51
@JBis typescript is never an option
@JBis TS is not an option
Good riddance
The place where I am working wants to use JS with Node
Go is def the second-best language I have used after Kotlin
aaaaand gonna stick with it for a while
What are you building?
not reinventing the wheel
he's building a penis shaped rocket to go into space
did you see the after pics crabs?
they were even funnier xD
16:58
nah I didn't follow it at all I've just seen memes
yes its a meme only ...
all I know is that a dick went into space
and also a rocket shaped like a dick
@JBis my personal project?
@ballBreaker The Earth is no longer a virgin
hehe
okay my cat stole my computer chair
so its time to take lunch I guess
Tim
Tim
@Taseer isn't ts just an easier way to write js much like kotlin is for java?
i.e. it gets transpiled to js before anything real happens
17:04
Gives you type safety
It feels weird to write in VS Code
Tim
Tim
yes but in a way ts is js, so if your company says "we want js" then ts can also fit the requirements
I am in no position to suggest any changes to their decision. Last time I did question their decisions. Everything was sensible except the Node part
They want interns to build the backend and I have a bad feeling for this
Interns aren't even experienced in JS let alone the backend world
and I am like, I will sail this ship for as long as I can
@Tim yes but i think not all libs and other shit supports ts
atleast that is what i heard
17:20
Personally, I feel weirded by looking at the JS / TS code written in Node. It just all feels like a sham for some reason. Maybe it's because I became a bitch to Spring boot
hehe
I am trying my luck on other jobs and for some reason I have an eye on Serbia
hence I asked if somebody lives in Serbia
I did apply for a job there and they have contacted me. Dunno how's it going to go
P A T H E T I C
We use a lot of node
don't have any issues with it
hmm
you have china team what else you need?
China team doesn't do anything but firmware
17:25
That checks out
they are such a small part of my job right now it's awesome
enough to set grills on fire
Can't have issues with the later layers if the firmware is already toast
the gmg grill servers are actually written in go
think it's our only production go server tho
Have you worked with Go?
17:27
a little
How was the experience?
Go is great, would recommend, I write a lot of Go, am still employed
go's a great, powerful language, it can be a bit slower to develop compared to node/js just because the tooling/packages aren't as robust but it's great for high performance servers
I thought you stopped coding, what happened? you got demoted or what?
I code less, but I haven't stopped
We did hire more people to take over my day to day coding though, but I'm still involved for newer projects to get them off the ground
17:29
@DaveS Agreed, kinda feel weird with the Go packages as of right now
@RaghavSood That's great, I could seek your help on Go related stuff :D
I think the tooling works out just fine once you get used to it - there's a bit of a mindset switch when coming over from pip/npm or even maven, but once you get the hang of it it is rock solid
I think I've had tooling related issues once in the last 5 years
yeah we didn't have issues, so much as more to code manually
By and large, it just works - never seen go get result in node engine version equivalent issues, or complaining that gcc can't compile some native dependency, etc.
Yeah, go gets verbose quite quickly, but that fits my general coding style
My code is generally like 75% logs
by LoC
@Taseer Yeah, wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I can get by for sure
@RaghavSood BTW, any particular resource would you point to for learning it?
Beside the docs
17:40
the Go tour is pretty much all you need to get started, after that its just a matter of learning how to pick the right architecture and structure for your project, which you should be able to build up over time
Go's surface is really small, the majority of the benefits come in picking the right approach to the problem
It does require a bit of a new line of thinking than your typical object oriented design or "everything is everything" approach of JS/python
but once you cross that bridge, you can move really fast
I see, that's great
I did an interview task for a company and they wanted me to write a file copy CLI program in Go
Seems reasonable
It's not the best, but what improvements would you suggest
I wrote it after learning Go for like 1.5 hours or so
Sure, give me a few minutes, need to go set up some stuff at work first, should be back in 15 minutes or so
That's right, take your time
Most probably it does not handle any edge cases
18:00
o/
18:28
Bit late but I think go really shines in its robust standard library
you can get really far without having to go out of the standard library
No pun intended
@Tim Was this your conclusion Tim?
Jul 9 at 10:52, by Tim
@Lime that's expected, apps that are forced stopped are not capable of doing anything and they will not receive push notifications
Tim
Tim
18:45
It's not so much a conclusion as it is factual information
what about whatsapp?
it does receive it even after stopping it
@JAAD I have not used whatsapp so I'm not sure. Have you checked to see if it is restarted? iPhone's I'm fairly certain have an API/app that handles notifications separate from the actual app. Frankly Android shouldn't have to start the app up every time to simply display a notification. Maybe they should have a separate public static void main(String[] args){} or something somewhere in the apk not really sure.
Tim
Tim
Again you speak negatively about android without knowing how it actually works
Oh so some apps simply don't receive push notifications when force stopped.
In all practically for my use case this is the same effect.
That's some general feedback on conventions and structure
The Problem With Dick...
The approach in general was pretty sane (there's a few different ways to copy files, but io.Copy is fine for any reasonably sized files - it will get slow for huge ones)
Just mostly a structure, error handling, variable conventions, and using the stdlib more when you can (using the mode definitions in fileinfo directly instead of wrapping them in your own, using the filepath package to deal with filepath parsing/modification instead of doing string concatenations, etc)
Tim
Tim
@Lime no app receives notifications when force stopped
Thanks for the feedback, will look into it
@RaghavSood You removed the constants like 'unknown for the -1. Let's say I don't define constant, then I suppose I would have to document what that -1 means in the code?
Nvm, I get it now
19:15
Yeah, having a constant for -1 for no data copied makes sense, I just got lazy towards the end
Tim
Tim
@Richard wrong room
But you don't need to introduce your own constant for the file modes
Tim what do notifications have to do with an open needing to be open?
Tim
Tim
What
what do notifications have to do with an APP needing to be open?
they don't seem relate. Notifications pretty much always stick to a standard format.
Tim
Tim
19:26
Nothing? I don't understand your question, it seems a bit random
a stopped app cannot run service which is what is used to deliver notification
my question is, why does the app have to be open to receive notifications?
i dont know how ios does it
but its literally just a picture and a message
so?
19:27
iOS used to just receive notifications and display it with a picture
there were no background apps
that is not how it works in android
you can either accept it or quit it
there is no point in comparing it to ios
doesn't that mean it drains battery linearly(at least) for each app you have installed
sure iOS battery life is stellar(on the devices I have used)
can I compare it to Windows Phone then?
no
@RaghavSood Thanks a lot for the feedback, it was informative. One question, let's say I want to build a web service including REST and authentication. In general, how should I go about solving this problem? What would be the simplest overview?
@JAAD honest question why not?
19:33
lol
I am losing braincells from this discussion
same here
btw are you implying crabs have brain?
@Lime because its not IOS
Jul 9 at 19:10, by Tim
it's not iOS
I'm just confused on what your point even is
I went to India and omg, I can't fucking believe it. It wasn't Canada. Can you believe that? That india wasn't canada? wtf ?
xD
Android has restricted background apps. Also most importantly, Android phone manufacturers with their own ROMs restrict it even more. There's also wake-locks related to Android notification IIRC
No wonder I can't get instagram notifications, fuck you Samsung
lmao
19:39
No the point is that it drains battery
Speaking of Instagram, for some stupid reason I have been getting random DM's from girls and I am thinking, my man...this can't be real
It's true, majority of them are just phishing
You are quite right Tim programming does goes over my head hear and there(assuming that is the saying you are referring to.) Windows Phone and Android agreed upon a standard and Android didn't follow the standard so Android is sort of an outlier in this regard.
@Lime okay fair enough
wait what standard?
Android and the word standard is quite oxymoronic
19:44
iOS and Windows Phone both did not run apps in the background initially to prevent battery drainage for notifications
when iOS changed their mind they adopted "Background App Refresh" which is a toggle on and off
You just force stop the app and it won't give any notifications
Samsung does this with their 'deep sleep' mode
also with the medium power saving mode
lol exactly on iOS and windows phone you force stop the app you still have another setting for notifications
Tim
Tim
sounds annoying
I guess iOS is not Android then and vice versa /thread
in fact there are 2 settings "background app refresh" & "notifications toggle"
Tim
Tim
19:50
and which one of these is called "force stop"?
none
ios doesn't even have a force stop
HAMMERTIME!
look the default behavior for force stop on Android sucks
you have to enable accessibility settings
Just hammer your iOS device to force stop
HAMMERTIME!
19:51
are you looking for solution or ranting?
comparing rooting to jailbreaking is fair but by default you have to force stop android apps
Tim
Tim
he is just a classic ios fanboy, everything on android sucks. Even windows phone, which doesn't exist anymore, is better
hehe
fine how about webos
or firefox os
i suggest you try the ios room for comparison
Tim
Tim
19:54
never mind
I think I like the ability to turn notifications off through force stopping than the alternative
notifications are so fcuking annoying
my message was removed
it wasn't cussing but I get the point
ohh i see 2 messages removed
Yep. I deleted both to avoid chat bans and such. Let's keep things friendly
crabs got flagged but saved
19:55
yeah, weird
i thought crab was getting a 30min boot
lol really?
yup
somehow I've avoided a ban for like 2+ years
Tim
Tim
your message where you were mocking yourself for losing brain cells was flagged, for god knows what reason
3
19:56
I'm a good boy now
He's finally asking for a ban
well your comment sure made someone lose his braincells so go figure
@ballBreaker sure by gods grace :p
just don't look at my message history
haha
@Taseer yes mods can do the honors :d
Tim
Tim
1 message moved to Trash can
19:59
hey @WarrenFaith you got your pp back!
did you figure out what happened to it?
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